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Hi Guys, currently using Artemis the now and due to upgrade with O2 next week. Really like the TouchPro, looks cool and want the slide out QWERTY keyboard this time ( only thing i miss on artemis ) Anyway, does it perform well and have good battery life AND one final question, is it better than the xperia because O2 say i can have that instead of Serra(TouchPro).
Thanks guys for any help you can give me.
Cheers,D.
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Hi Guys, currently using Artemis the now and due to upgrade with O2 next week. Really like the TouchPro, looks cool and want the slide out QWERTY keyboard this time ( only thing i miss on artemis ) Anyway, does it perform well and have good battery life AND one final question, is it better than the xperia because O2 say i can have that instead of Serra(TouchPro).
Thanks guys for any help you can give me.
Cheers,D.
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I have not had the pleasure of playing with a Xperia but I love my Fuze (Touch Pro). I went from an 8525 ot a Tilt and now a Fuze and I absolutely love it! It has so much storage memory that I no longer have to install my programs on my storage card.
I have two friends that went for the Xperia. Both never had a WM before.
They like it.
I have TP, I've played quite some time with their Xperias... I am keeping my TP.
Thanks guys, sticking to the TouchPro i think, The xperia has a mixed variety of reviews.
Cheers, D
Depend on which provider you are going for, I have the Sprint varient and I love it much more over my old Titan. But since you are taking about the Xperia X1, I would think you want GSM. The Fuze shouldn't be that bad, but make sure IF you decide to go with the X1, go for the US varient from Sony if you reside in the US, I have head about a lot of compatibility issues with the X1. The Fuze on the other hand is not widescreen, but still quite beautiful in its own glossy way and is cheaper. The Sony ericsson too is sexy in a distinct way. It'll all up to personal preference, whether you want a full 5 row qwerty keyboard, or a wide screen with brushed metal as the extra perk when you get the phone. Either way it is a good choice, and there are tons of people on this site who can help you with both phones.
Read some reviews, and youtube videos, or check them out in person. The only one who knows what phone you want is you... Good luck!
Many thanks u8myfoood, Network will be O2 as i reside in Scotland in the UK, had a look at the 2 of them and the TouchPro(Serra) is winning hands down at the moment, was just wondering if it was fast and stable as they make out ??
Cheers, D
Well ther might be different views that you'll see people has about both phone, but just to say, touch pro has g-sensor which x1 don't have. well i have touch pro as you might have seen on my signature and avatar well im very sattisfied.. all is working really great and smooth..the touch pro have 3d accelerator (do x1 has that?).. well i'm a gamer too and touch pro is perfect for that, (i play cod2 without any problems hehe and tony hawk pro skater 2 ) well another thing is that touch pro has a 5 row qwert keyboard which x1 doesn't have.. you have to use the function key on x1 to get to the numbers.. well x1 has larger screen i guess..
Many thanks you guys, this is certainly made my mind up, New TouchPro for me is on its way. Just out of curiosity, when using the artemis with manilla 2D i can change themes etc using M2DC, is it the same or do i need software for TouchPro 3D ???
Cheers, D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070 Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 rulez
edit: I'm wrong TF3D Config
search the forum for Diamond TF3d Config and you'll be able to change themes using that..
Cheers Guys, very helpful indeed. You'll all probably hear from me when i receive it just to keep me right on things, been used to my artemis for so long now so i guess it's a bit antiquated.
Many Thanks, D
Ok just had the chance to play around with a Xperia X1. I am really disappointed in Sony. This device looked very promising but to me was not acceptable. The Sony was very unresponsive and sloooow. Even with a cooked ROM and tweaked out it was very unimpressive. My Fuze absolutely screams with [WWE]RRE HTC Fuze ROM Ver 4.4.5 Special Edition on it. My buddy who bought the X1 is not a happy camper. I told him to go for the Fuze.
droy68, I hope you like your Pro when it arrives : )
A week ago my friend gave me his Artemis to upgrade the ROM to one with Manila 2D. I was amazed how quickly the interface worked. It's actually a bit more responsive than TouchFlo 3D is on my Pro's standard ROM.
Also, I loved the the scroll wheel, it's brilliant! As you may miss this, it may be worth pointing out that you can enable the touch scroll on the Pro to be active in more programs than it is by default. You need to add entries for each application in the registry under HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch... See this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206. Alternatively, I think both Diamond Tweak and Schap's advanced config 3.3 can do it for you. I prefer to add things manaully so I can see what's going on : )
Finallly, if you miss the finger friendly contact page of Touch Flo 2D. You can always install a VGA version of Manila 2D instead of using TouchFlo 3D. I haven't tried this myself yet....
Looking to buy a very good Windows mobile fone
Suggest me - xperia - HTD HD - Omnia?
I personally like Xperia
my preferences are
keyboard, big screen[resolution]
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so now I am confused between HTC HD and Xperia
Xperia plus points
[1] Panel interface
[2] its stylist
[3] Physical Keyboard
[4] Better talking time
[5] Cheaper price [I can get it much cheaper.. according to ebay auctions]
HTC HD plus points
[1] Bigger Screen
[2] 5MB camera [but no flash so no use for me though]
please write the reply why should i purchase phone of your choice.. you know...
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please write the reply why should i purchase phone of your choice.. you know...
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HD has no flash for camera and no keyboard.. any one can please explain my how HD is better than Xperia?
non of them have flash for camera but some do have a led for camera but that's in a different league then real flash a much lower leagure at that
xda hd is better if one want a thiner device and no keyboard and like touch 3d
I recently was in the same boat and had the same selections as you. I opted for the omnia, first one I recieved I bricked trying to flash the official uk rom update downloaded directly from samsung site. The 2nd (still going) I nearly bricked again trying the same rom flash and ended up flashing a custom rom to recover it. There are quite a few owners having problems flashing roms (official ones mainly) over at modaco.
Overall the phone is pretty much the same, speed wise, as my trinity. I was swung to it by the memory size.
The gps works fine now I've done a tweak (again from modaco) and overall its a bit better than my old trinity (camera knocks spots off htc one).
Its a bit of a pain not being able to "see" some of my favorite software properly due to the unconventional screen size.
If I had tried an experia I might before taking the plunge I might have made a different choice.
Rudegar said:
non of them have flash for camera but some do have a led for camera but that's in a different league then real flash a much lower leagure at that
xda hd is better if one want a thiner device and no keyboard and like touch 3d
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xperia has flash mate
petest said:
I recently was in the same boat and had the same selections as you. I opted for the omnia, first one I recieved I bricked trying to flash the official uk rom update downloaded directly from samsung site. The 2nd (still going) I nearly bricked again trying the same rom flash and ended up flashing a custom rom to recover it. There are quite a few owners having problems flashing roms (official ones mainly) over at modaco.
Overall the phone is pretty much the same, speed wise, as my trinity. I was swung to it by the memory size.
The gps works fine now I've done a tweak (again from modaco) and overall its a bit better than my old trinity (camera knocks spots off htc one).
Its a bit of a pain not being able to "see" some of my favorite software properly due to the unconventional screen size.
If I had tried an experia I might before taking the plunge I might have made a different choice.
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Omnia has smaller screen.. so its not advisable for me at least i need 800px wide screen
is there something you tell me which make me to purchase Omnia?
aarat said:
Omnia has smaller screen.. so its not advisable for me at least i need 800px wide screen
is there something you tell me which make me to purchase Omnia?
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Get the HD and then u have the best PPC and the support of this XDA Forum!
btw...there's many threads around here on your same topic.
galaxys said:
Get the HD and then u have the best PPC and the support of this XDA Forum!
btw...there's many threads around here on your same topic.
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xperia is also listed here.. so i think i will get support for that too?
aarat said:
xperia is also listed here.. so i think i will get support for that too?
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SE Xperia is a great device, i have been using it much and got it couple of months ago.
being a developer my self helped me getting the max out of this great device.
i will really never replace it with anything else.
very reliable and trustworthy, good build quality and great design.
i say SE Xperia X1
good luck in your choice.
Well what is xperia missing that HD has without the keyboard?... and the answer is *drumb tap* g-sensor... well my opinion is that if you don't need g-senor but would like a hardwarekeyboard the go for xperia.. well i wanted both features of xperia and HD, well both of the have bigger screen than Raphael but Raphael was my final choice and i do not regret it any time .. well i suggest you to go throguh some youtube videos with unboxing and user experience and check some applications both have and so forth..
My 2 cents, just MHO:
XPERIA X1 beats any current device because:
1- Beautiful blend between hightech and artwork
2- Beautiful blend between SONY and HTC
3- Beautiful WVGA 800x640 Sony screen (bye bye HTC Raphael/Touch Pro)
4- Cool metal case in two colours (aurevoir HTC diamond)
5- Useful hardware keyboard (so long HTC Touch HD)
6- Windows Mobile inside a Sony !! LOTS of apps and tweaks available (ciao iPhone)
7- The biggest ammount of RAM currently available
8- Sony Panels interface plus the abitlity to add TouchFlo3D as another panel
9- microSD card slot up to 16GMB (and 32GB soon)
10- Long lasting big battery, bigger than many others
11- Small and comfortable form factor (not as thick as Tytn or Touch Pro)
12- Etc etc etc
You get a great Phone from Sony Ericsson, a portable office from Microsoft, a Walkman from Sony and worldwide connectivity (choose from X1a or X1i) from HTC-qualcomm
What else do you want ??
thx gtrab your post helped me lot
can you tell me.. really it support 16GB card? cool
when do you think 32gb will be available..
and if I purchase now.. these days.. this production is more stable? or should I wait more?
aarat said:
thx gtrab your post helped me lot
can you tell me.. really it support 16GB card? cool
when do you think 32gb will be available..
and if I purchase now.. these days.. this production is more stable? or should I wait more?
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Dunno when, mid year maybe
Go for a 16GB one, you wont regret, they cost around $55 on ebay and they are worth every penny
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Dunno when, mid year maybe
Go for a 16GB one, you wont regret, they cost around $55 on ebay and they are worth every penny
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No mate I meant about Xperia itself.. it supports 16GB now right? What I am asking is.. when new version of Xeria comes which will support 32GB, Actully 16GB also more than I need but just asking.
Does Xperia has stable version now? I saw couple of sellers who sells Xperia within $700 on Ebay. Are they stable versions?
its very simple for me, do you want a device that won't hardware fail on you within a year or not? If you want it to last more than a year then don't buy HTC (which includes experia).
EVERY HTC device I have owned has been back for at least one warranty repair. These include a Blueangel, TyTN, TyTN2 and .... actually i lied, my Touch Diamond is now in a draw - broken.
edit: Sorry, should make it clear. My 16gig Omnia, with its extra 16gig card, is working like a dream with no signs of any hardware failures. HTC, awesome specs .... crap build quality. All of this ofc, is in my experience.
aarat said:
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my preferences are
keyboard, big screen[resolution]
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Then the Omnia is NOT the choice of phone for you as a; it doesn't have a keyboard and b;its a low res. Shame, really as the low res screen has two BIG advantages - 1 its fast as f*&k and 2 it uses far less battery.
Be sure if you are going to buy the XPeria to check out DEFECTS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447211
It seems, HTC made the same mistake with the Universal. I voted for the Xperia, because of the keyboard.
Oh my days ........ that is very shocking . (Well, actually, given who make it, no its not at all)
And the case for the prosecution rests your honor.
Buy HTC manufactured devices at your peril.......
Monty Burns said:
its very simple for me, do you want a device that won't hardware fail on you within a year or not? If you want it to last more than a year then don't buy HTC (which includes experia).
EVERY HTC device I have owned has been back for at least one warranty repair. These include a Blueangel, TyTN, TyTN2 and .... actually i lied, my Touch Diamond is now in a draw - broken.
edit: Sorry, should make it clear. My 16gig Omnia, with its extra 16gig card, is working like a dream with no signs of any hardware failures. HTC, awesome specs .... crap build quality. All of this ofc, is in my experience.
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so you are saying No HTC phone is good? No Windows mobile phone is good[most of Win mobos are by HTC!)? What I should do if I want a Win Mobo?
first i like fuze (touch pro).. i like the qwerty keyboard.. but i heard a lot of video crap.. like the old days of kaiser..
my other options are Omnia and Xperia
Omnia has a good feedback at video and speed.. but lacks the qwerty board... but it has 16gb internal memory
Xperia because of the qwerty and speed.. but dont know any flaws..
Xperia and Fuze has a very good support in our site.. i dont know about Omnia??
please give me a feedback like pros and cons, personal experiences..
or should i save my money and wait for the next set of PPC by HTC this 2nd quarter of the year.. WinMo 7 will be release.. and wishing for the snapdragon chipset to be integrated.. 1gig Mhz.. can support 12mp camera.. still hoping...
Fuze
I had the same decision and i bought the Raphael/Touch Pro/Fuze. got it mostly for the keyboard but also because i loved the look of Touch Flo 3D.
At first i was a little disappointed, i had to soft reset at least once a day to keep it working and everything was pretty slow, but i flashed my ROM to Elite RC3 a while ago and it made my Raphael the phone that i wanted it to be to begin with!
Pros extremely fast everywhere, very stable, slide out keyboard is the best you will find IMHO, nice looking interface that is extremely useful and a time saver, lots of applications made just for it!
Cons Its not as good straight out of the box (flash the ROM), camera is slow as a wet week (missed many a photo)
as for the other two i cant give any first hand experience but you will have to find another website for support on the omnia (counts it out for me lol)
Xperia is a great phone it has support on this site (albeit not as much as the Raphael) if it was me choosing again i would be choosing between the Xperia Panels vs Touch Flo 3D and which i like the look of best.
Oh btw one of the things that really swayed me to the Raphael over the Xperia (my 2nd choice) was the VGA screen, im a huge software lover and LOTS of the games and applications i love aren't WVGA compatible and i didn't want to have to run a resolution changer program all the time.
hope this helps you!
thanks man.. im also thinking in the future use.. winmo 7 will use gesture and xperia doesnt have it.. maybe il buy the fuze..
btw, how's your eperience in palying games? slow? im seeing lot of video driver problem in fuze.. does this new ROMs already know to fix it? or putting the D3D from diamond does it?
for your information, you might not be able to use your fuze with WM7's new features since microsoft announced it might require different hardware
go with HTC Advantage 7510. BIG 5" screen, full haptic keyboard and 16Gb storage
thats too bad.. if fuze cant make it to WM7.. i think ill wait for the new addition of HTC. Rhodium ROCKS! its like touch HD with qwerty board! wow.. ill stick with my good old hermes before rhodium hits.. thanks by the way!
in the meantime, get over to the hermes section and flash section8prime8 wm6.5 beta!
Hey guys! I'm new here. My contract with orange romania is expiring and i was wondering if you could help me out. i have the option to choose between the HTC TOUCH PRO and the TOSHIBA TG01. i held them both in my pants.. hands sry, and the both feel very good . now, the htc is more easy to use , has a better camera and faster messagin optio thnks to the qwerty keyboard but the toshiba support WM6.5 and has that diamond in it, the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor. so, i really need help on deciding . a person recomended not to take the toshibe because of scarce acesories and body parts in case of service support.
i must make up my mind until monday 11 am Bucharerst time .
so please friends, pin point me to the best direction!
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Hey guys! I'm new here. My contract with orange romania is expiring and i was wondering if you could help me out. i have the option to choose between the HTC TOUCH PRO and the TOSHIBA TG01. i held them both in my pants.. hands sry, and the both feel very good . now, the htc is more easy to use , has a better camera and faster messagin optio thnks to the qwerty keyboard but the toshiba support WM6.5 and has that diamond in it, the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor. so, i really need help on deciding . a person recomended not to take the toshibe because of scarce acesories and body parts in case of service support.
i must make up my mind until monday 11 am Bucharerst time .
so please friends, pin point me to the best direction!
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Toshiba TG01 FTW, yeh the htc touch pro has better software, but if you get the tg01, install the htc roms that our fantastic chefs cook! the one in my signature is IMHO the best sense ROM, gives it a near perfect expeirience to the htc hd2. and its a snapdragon! my friend has the touch hd, very simiiliar CPU to the touch pro and it is much slower. anyway the touch pro has been suceeded by tp2. the screen of the tg01 is wvga, so it is clearer. personally imho the touch pro is outdated and , get the tg01!
ok guys, due to lady bad luck the toshiba was sold and best next one was the htc touch pro. now i need you're help in finding a good os/updates/apps/something to get it 'rollin' . i would like something stable not that ported android beta os. any advice is welcomed.
and thank you oly for that quick response
IMHO,go for the hTC touch pro...Its a good device when you compare it to the Tosh... Also,the service network of Toshiba is in shambles....Need i say more after you read this?
tnks shr. but i have already bought it... now what OS do you recomend? apps.. everything. i am open to advices/links
please i would realy need another rom because this one lag-s!!
Have a look at the one in my Signature.
Also look at newer TAEL 2.5 sense & Energy ROMs.
TAEL ROM is smooth for me but user tweaking & the ability to read instructions & threads makes the diference between good & bad user experiences !
Tarkin Keyboard button driver is a must, will list some more stuff when have 10 minutes to spare, in middle of catching flight so just a quick reply.
oh, thank you very much! i do appreciate it! but unfortunate, i am a noob. i have never flashed a phone. all i had till now where symbian phones. this is first WM and HTC experience for me .
TG01 Roms
Hi I have been roaming around this forum for a few years now.
I too have a TG01, The best bit of advise I can give is to stay away from any win7 roms, the TG was not designed to ever run it. Win7 is very slow.
There are some very good roms out there, I have found that anything from mirolg tends to be stable.
With regards to flashing a new Rom Check out the "how to Guide" in the TG01 section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654674) if you are still finding it a little hard have a search for the problem, but if you still cant work it out drop me a PM.
Hope you have a good time finding your perfect Rom.
Gingerchristopher
digital_critic said:
oh, thank you very much! i do appreciate it! but unfortunate, i am a noob. i have never flashed a phone. all i had till now where symbian phones. this is first WM and HTC experience for me .
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We were all virgins to flashing at one point.
Do some research & follow guidelines for 6.5 install & run in period from energy & all should be well ! quite simple really ...
In my opinion 2.1 sense is better option on touch pro but some of the newer 2.5 sense ROMs are supposedly fast but do consume more memory resources & battery power.
Hi, I hve finally decide to go back to PDA/Smartphone and want to know which I should get. I am a veteran in the rom flashing/cooking era of the wizard and vario's and htc touch pro 2. I am after finding out which is the best , as in most powerful and able to run everything smoothly whether it be android or Win7. I prefer a physical keyboard , but if screen good enough will use on screen one.
Thanks for your time/thoughts peeps!!
P.s coming of an Iphone 4. (Boo hiss I know...lol).
Desire Z (w/ HW Keyboard), iPhone 4 or HTC HD7...
This depends on you. All those phones are great. You need to check which one fits your style. We can't do this for you.
I suggest you wait until the newer Q1 2011 android phones come out, where do you live and what carriers are in your area?
Thanks for the replys. I am in UK on o2 and have about £400 for new phone.
need a phone quite quickly so am after the best nowish. Can a desire z be flashed with roms etc and HD7?
HD7 looks quite big and desire z only has 800mhz cpu as far as I can see . Is this fast enough.?
Thanks.