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JesusFreke please read this.

Well today i had everything setup like i wanted. I had JFv1.41 rc33 version install on my g1 and a custom Theme. I wanted to switch my them for a new more looking one. So i download a new custom and install it. to my surprise i install an old them which i install. Boot the phone and got the T Mobile G1 logo and that it i get stoke there. So here why i made this tread to tell JesusFreke in the next or when ever he could add a USb toggle in recovery mode. I am stoke with this till 2 days. This will help allot of first g1 noob. Thanks for your time.

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A: next time make sure you download a theme that works with your version of JF
B: why didnt you put this under JF's thread?
C: if you have an update.zip(or something that can be renamed and used as such) you can go to the recovery console, type "mount sdcard", then use the basic linux commands to put it on the top directory of the sdcard and restart and load it up, thus fixing your phone. If not, you should keep on somewhere on your phone just in case such a need arises

[email protected] said:
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A: next time make sure you download a theme that works with your version of JF
B: why didnt you put this under JF's thread?
C: if you have an update.zip(or something that can be renamed and used as such) you can go to the recovery console, type "mount sdcard", then use the basic linux commands to put it on the top directory of the sdcard and restart and load it up, thus fixing your phone. If not, you should keep on somewhere on your phone just in case such a need arises
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So you want to be a smart ha here i go.
A) People can make mistake
B)I did that because i wanted to make Jf read this thread and it will help people like me who don't really have the knowledge on using Linux easy.
C)I don't really know that much of using linux like u.

I'm sure many people send JF many PM's wanting the same thing as you do. Do you think he has the time or want to answer a question that someone else might be able to answer?

Making mistakes is something you need to be more careful about. Having root means the phone will let you do whatever you want. This means safety features that are made to protect you from yourself are not active. Read about what you are doing before doing it. That is the message n00bs need to be given.
Put the sd card in your computer, place the .nbh file on it, reboot into bootloader and downgrade your phone. Then work your way back up to JF 1.4x and read more carefully before you install themes. I know my way around the G1 very well (if I dont say so myself) but I still do not install themes. They are nice, but they are not at the point where installation is as easy or system friendly as they could be.

Blue*lable said:
C)I don't really know that much of using linux like u.
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I've never really used Linux myself, as it seems more complicated than it's worth most of the time, but I've had no problems so far using a rooted G1, or installing custom firmwares, etc. I haven't tried themes, but from what little I've read into it, not only does it seem fairly straight forward, but I've also noticed quite a few of them warn the user that they need to be running the Lite version of JF 1.4x before they install a theme because otherwise there simply isn't room. That said, it's not up to JF to babysit everyone that decides to delve into the unknown.

I dont understand what your problem is,
if u dont know about linux buy an microsd to SD adapter, extract microsd from your phone and use a computer to copy JF's latest update.zip to your card and then upgrade usual way
what is the problem?

JesusFreke if your reading this I just wanted to say "Hi" and "Thanks" and ... and.... Ummm ...

Everyone in here relax.
Try not to direct threads to a specific person. This is a developement thread. You want a specific someone to read something, send them a PM. If you are lucky he will read it, if he doesnt have them turned off.

New to G1

Good afternoon to the G1 community. I just purchased my G1 yesterday through Tmobile and I have a couple question.
I just came from using a wing so I am pretty savy with wmo rom flashing and whatnot, but android is completely new to me. Now, of course i want to get the most out of my device. I must say, out of the box it is by far the best device that I have used. Even so, i know that there is some stuff that i am missing.
I have done some reading here in the forum, and i do know how to search, but im not clear on a couple things. For starters, I have been reading about Rooting my device. Now to be totally honest with you, i've read through the Rooting Thread but only walked away with I would love to have autorotate for my screen! I mean, truely what are the benefits to rooting the phone? Will i loose access to the "market" or loose any other functionality of the phone as it is now? Future updates?
In a perfect world i'd love to have the auto rotate feature.... the ability to change the way the program list slides up to maybe sliding panel, and an onscreen keyboard (such as chompsms) when i select a line to type in (whether im in the browser or anyother program.)
I Love the phone as it is.. so all in all, what functionality would i gain, and what would i loose? besides warranty of course
I apologize, i realized i may have put this in the wrong section!

1. Rooting you phone allows you to basically use it to the best of its capabilities. For example, you can change themes, boot image, auto rotate, multitouch, etc. You won't lose the market or any other functions after you root the phone. (To my knowledge, I see paid apps and such just fine on my phone.) You will continue to see future OTA updates, but if you download them, you will lose root access for your phone.
2. The "Cupcake" OTA release is planned for April (As has been discussed on the forums, may be true, may be false. TMobile is claiming its false, but Google controls the updates) If we ever recieve this update, then we will be able to get things such as an onscreen keyboard.
3. I'm not sure about changing the order of the way the apps are presented on the slide-up menu, but there are apps like ahome or dxtop that have alternate home styles, such as the "Iphone" style horizontal scrolling or multiple menu tabs.

Thanks, I do appreciate your prompt response!

if you want the best out of your phone root it.. but thats completely up to you.. when you root you'll be able to get the latest builds from JF anyway soo you'll never be out on whats new.. if anything you'll be a couple steps ahead of regular g1 users at all times

Just to verify.... The market is still available for apps after rooting.. Now I will loose root if I download from the market or just the "OTA" updates for the phone?
Also, i was going through the instructions for the process and got to the point where you upgrade to the latest build. So, i assume RC33 is US Tmo vs RC8 being for UK. What is ADP1.1? So is my choice between ADP1.1 and RC33?

you shouldn't even recieve an OTA update notification if you follow directions, so you don't have to worry about that, and many apps on the market are actually FOR root users and only root users so you will not lose market obviously. the greatest thing about getting root is that you can basically make your phone do anything you want(so long as you are comfortable with linux commands and aren't afraid to temporarily "brick" you phone) but even if you kust want autorotate you will need to root the phone and you will need to grab a JF update. there is an app that someone has written, almost completely idiot proof rooting, and i am trying to help it to be COMPLETELY idiot proof, if you want to try it out search app that roots your phone and it should pop up

Ok, so I have decided to go ahead and play with this and see what there is to offer.
I have successfully downgraded to the rc29 firmware and verified it in my phone. Now I have also done these instructions to get root;
Rooting your RC29 or lower phone:
On RC29 phones and lower, anything you type into your keyboard is also being run in a hidden console with root permissions. More information regarding that at the bottom of this post. But, to get root access, do the following:
Instructions:
Download recovery.img and copy it to your SD card (see the previous instructions on how to copy from your computer to your Phone's SD card).
Download the Hard SPL and copy the zip file to the SD card.
All files must be on the root of your SD card.
Restart your phone. Wait for your phone to start up fully and show the home screen.
After your phone starts up, hit the enter key twice, type "telnetd" and press enter. (Yes, it will start up a contact search, don't worry. Just type it.)
Download an Android "Telnet" application from the Market and connect to localhost.
If you connect successfully, you will have a root prompt "#".
Type the following into Telnet (these commands will give you root access easier in the future):
mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cd sdcard
flash_image recovery recovery.img
cat recovery.img > /system/recovery.img
Now of course i dont know if it was successfull cause it doesnt tell you. Now here is my problem. I am trying to upgrade the rc33 now but with NO LUCK! Now the instructions say to download the file, rename to update.zip and go into recover mode and run update. However it keeps giving me the error "Can't open /sdcard/update.zip (bad). I have downloaded two copies and this happens with both and the radio version.
What am i doing wrong? I have tried to rename the file on both the phone and the computer, with the extension .zip and without it but with no luck. I have the file directly on the root of the sd card. Do I need any other files on the sd card? or just the zip file?
I have read and read, but I have not found a clear explanations.

I'm not on a G1 (I'm on a Google dev phone that came rooted out of the box), and thus haven't gone through that process myself, but I seem to remember reading something about having to go through RC30/JFv1.3x and THEN to RC33/JFv1.4x. Not RC29 -> RC33/JFv1.4x directly.
I could very well be wrong though.

Ok, well I did get it to install.. still working on it...
Definitely wierd. I'll update when i finish!
I successfully went from rc29 to rc33 v 1.41 but realized that the newest is 1.42 so thats loading now.
Its odd, it seems that my problem was when i was in recovery mode, I would alt L to bring up the menu and alt s to update from sdcard. It didnt work for nearly 10 times.. then all the sudden instead up alt L to bring up the menu, i just did alt S and it booted. I didnt realize that linux was that sensitive! Other than that, i'm about to play with the new firmware.
So there is no way to get an onscreen keyboard like chompsms? I kinda found that hard to believe.

while it is SUGGESTED that you go from 29 to 30 to 33(what ever happened to 31 and 32?) it is not necessary, i am gonna assume you are on windows and you may be naming it update.zip.zip because extensions are hidden. try it after just naming it update, and also make sure that you unmount the phone correctly after you put the file on there, a lot of times it is still writing data when you yank it out, and that will cause the (bad) error. hope this helps. if you get a file not found error after naming it update then just put the .zip extension back on the file and make sure you unmount properly

tubaking182 said:
i am gonna assume you are on windows and you may be naming it update.zip.zip because extensions are hidden.
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This, and maybe you've downloaded the 'build environment' package.
At my first attempt I got the 'bad' message, too. I didn't know which one to pick up so my first try has been 'ADP1 build environment'. Later with 'ADP1' (not the build environment one) no problem. Now I'm going with the UK because I wanted the UI in german and because some market apps didn't download with ADP.

[Q] two apk files removed during oneclick root

hi all. new user to xda forums.
a brief history of my foray into the upgrade and root realm:
i have an samsung epic 4g. i just updated to froyo eb13 from eclair. i used the update.zip from samsung and everything went smooth without a hitch. ( i even backed up my SD card before the update to be sure i didn't lose anything on it in case i had to reformat it.)
i decided i wanted root to backup my phone so i went with the oneclick 2.5.5 procedure. i tried it on ubuntu 10.04 using the SDK but it didn't want to work. adb wasn't an issue so it was something else...i didn't bother researching why it didn't work on linux so i jumped on my windows xp sp3 machine where the root process worked without a hitch.
during the root process two apk files are removed:
/system/app/Asphalt5_DEMO_ANMP_Samsung_D700_Sprint_ML.apk
/system/app/FreeHDGameDemos.apk
so i'm on froyo eb13, i have root and everything seems ok.
i tried searching on the apk file names here on the forums but didn't see anything which really explained things for me.
questions i'm hoping someone can explain:
1. why are these files removed? is it because there isn't enough space?
(the only thing i could find was this thread but it doesn't pertain to the oneclick root process per se: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882567.)
2. will these files be needed in the future for other 'updates'?
since my main goal was rooting to back up my phone completely including all the apk files, it seems the root process took out two before i could get them backed up. this isn't a problem as i can get the apk files from another source.
thanks in advance for any explanations.
jockovonred

jockovonred said:
hi all. new user to xda forums.
a brief history of my foray into the upgrade and root realm:
i have an samsung epic 4g. i just updated to froyo eb13 from eclair. i used the update.zip from samsung and everything went smooth without a hitch. ( i even backed up my SD card before the update to be sure i didn't lose anything on it in case i had to reformat it.)
i decided i wanted root to backup my phone so i went with the oneclick 2.5.5 procedure. i tried it on ubuntu 10.04 using the SDK but it didn't want to work. adb wasn't an issue so it was something else...i didn't bother researching why it didn't work on linux so i jumped on my windows xp sp3 machine where the root process worked without a hitch.
during the root process two apk files are removed:
/system/app/Asphalt5_DEMO_ANMP_Samsung_D700_Sprint_ML.apk
/system/app/FreeHDGameDemos.apk
so i'm on froyo eb13, i have root and everything seems ok.
i tried searching on the apk file names here on the forums but didn't see anything which really explained things for me.
questions i'm hoping someone can explain:
1. why are these files removed? is it because there isn't enough space?
(the only thing i could find was this thread but it doesn't pertain to the oneclick root process per se: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882567.)
2. will these files be needed in the future for other 'updates'?
since my main goal was rooting to back up my phone completely including all the apk files, it seems the root process took out two before i could get them backed up. this isn't a problem as i can get the apk files from another source.
thanks in advance for any explanations.
jockovonred
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part of the joy of rooting is getting rid of some of the annoying apps that come stock on most phones from your carrier.
A lot of roms when installed will place the removed apk's in afolder on your SD card called "removed apk's", you can navigate to that folder with file explorer and reinstall them if you want to.
That is assuming that your new ROM did that for you.

nothing remove with my rom

joja1 said:
nothing remove with my rom
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What ROM are you running?

After more playing around and using CWM 3x, it appears this is how those 'hacks' need to function in order to install busybox. Since there isn't enough space within /system/app, something must be removed. Those two apk files are removed which in turn allows busybox (later in the install process) to exist.
I've since installed SyndicateRom Frozen Takiya 1.1.0 which removed all sprint and samsung bloatware (apk files) etc. For the two apk files I've needed (myfiles and memo), I've pushed those back using SdxAppRemover-1.5. If I need anything relating to the sprint or samsung apk files in the future to upgrade, I'll need to Odin back to stock at this point.

[Q] Instruction for installing NFX Packaged ROMs on Sprint HTC Hero

Hello I am newbie trying to root my Sprint HTC Hero running 2.32.651.2.
Honestly I'm lost. I have read several different ways of doing it and also problems getting it to work sucuessfully. Sprint.STOCK.2.31.651.7.ODEX.A2SD-Update3.1 seems like it is all packaged and ready to go without having to do much. The only problem is I can't find any shred of directions. Do I extract the zip to a folder and copy the folder to my SD card? What next? Will it work being that I don't have that same version running on my phone? Will running this install automatically setup a recover image on the phone?
I am hoping to get access to WIFI Tethering and still have apps for email, weather, and the market place to load more stuff at will. I don't want to over clock because I want to preserve battery life too and afraid of cooking the phone during the summer.
Please help as I have read over a 100 posts and my eyes are going to pop out of my head.

Rooted my Xoom 3.2...now what?

Let me start off by stating that I'm not totally new to rooting android devices. I own a EVO 4G and have been messing around with root for a while on it. The DEV community is huge and there are a overwhelming amount of options available.
Like I said, I already rooted my stock 3.2 Xoom and have d/l all the essential ROOT apps like Titanium, MyBackUp Pro and a few others. However, I'm not quite sure where to go next. There doesn't seem to be too many options in term of ROMS and I'm not quite grasping what the ROMS have over rooted stock.
I'm not asking this in a nasty way, I genuinely want to know what the next logical steps are to maximize the use of my Xoom.
Besides that general question I have a few more specific questions:
1. Can I download ClockWorkMod Recovery through the app?
2. Can I overclock using SetCPU?
3. Haven't put a MicroSD card into this thing yet but am I able to save apps to the SD with rooted stock?
Sorry for the noobiness!

SantinoInc said:
Let me start off by stating that I'm not totally new to rooting android devices. I own a EVO 4G and have been messing around with root for a while on it. The DEV community is huge and there are a overwhelming amount of options available.
Like I said, I already rooted my stock 3.2 Xoom and have d/l all the essential ROOT apps like Titanium, MyBackUp Pro and a few others. However, I'm not quite sure where to go next. There doesn't seem to be too many options in term of ROMS and I'm not quite grasping what the ROMS have over rooted stock.
I'm not asking this in a nasty way, I genuinely want to know what the next logical steps are to maximize the use of my Xoom.
Besides that general question I have a few more specific questions:
1. Can I download ClockWorkMod Recovery through the app?
2. Can I overclock using SetCPU?
3. Haven't put a MicroSD card into this thing yet but am I able to save apps to the SD with rooted stock?
Sorry for the noobiness!
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1. No. You have two choices and you can find them by looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074979 and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235170
2.Yes, once you are rooted and have installed either a Tiamat rom or kernel or Rogue kernel. You will find them in the Xoom Heaven thread in the begining of the General section.
3 Not without doing 2., above. That's one reason to root and mod. FYI, most Honeycomb apps aren't initially setup to write to the external sdcard and require a bit of fooling with, and most, if not all apps need to be run from internal storage (sdcard). I couldn't do without the external sdcard though...I use it to flash fliled, backup nandroid, and have TB backing up my apps and data to it, as well as playing my music, and video collection from it.