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What do you think about a full featured AV Solution for Pocket PC's ?
I ask that question to build up different installation packages.
There are many things which have to been considered, for instance that a real time protection would use a lot of battery or that a huge database would use a lot of memory.
So please provide me with your input and thoughts, wishes and requirements. The result will be a free solution with a outstanding detection rate. ( It's already under development and works so far for all platforms including Palm, Windows Mobile 2002, 2003 etc )
Some features (already under development)
* Pocket Outlook Attachments Scanning (in and outgoing)
* Dialer and Worm/Trojan Heuristic especially for PDA's
* Beam-Realtime Scan ( if you get or send new files )
* In-Craddle-Realtime Scan ( cause battery is there no problem )
* PIE Realtime Scan for downloading files
* On-Demand Scan for the whole PDA (including all Storage Cards)
* On-Demand Scan for the Storage Cards
* Autoinstall Option via Beam on other Devices
* Unpacking Engine for Windows 32 Malware ( CAB, ZIP, RAR, UPX, ASPack, FSG, ASProtect, Petite, Neolight, PECompact etc.)
* Polymorph Engine for Windows 32 Malware
* Incremental Updates downloadable within GPRS or via ActiveSync
* Logfile Support
* WLAN scanning on shares in a network environment
* Scan Sheduler
* Today Screen Plugin with infos
Now it's up to you 8)
Cheers,
Scorpion
Sounds good ... how much and when?
How much ? - its free - its not even limited
When ? - i think at the end of this month
Right now i am developing the interface, all other things are almost ready.
Should i post some screenshots from time to time during development ?
Cheers,
Scorpion
AV
Sounds great. Yes to screen shots.
Thanks.
calli
But i think it would make sense if it checks at least for the win32 things.
I dont know how many people using the XDA II for mobile emails ( at least i do ) and therfore i think it would be a good idea if it is be able to scan and to detect also Win32 Worms etc. in the attachments after marking for download.
Maybe i could split that into a basic install ( only for PDA ) and a extended database for all win32 malware. The extended database will be around 3 or 4 MB; that is not that much. Overall i calculated around 6 MB for all features.
Cheers,
Scorpion
sounds excellent, can't wait to see more
Right now reorganizing the interface with tabulators, but here is the splashscreen that you can see atleast something 8)
eeugh. uuuuugly splash
(Mods, if this is seen as advertising or spam, please accept my apologies and remove the thread. It's not really though, promise! I just thought people might be interested in my review of a new PPC not made by HTC )
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Hi all, welcome to this, my hands on review of the new Acer Tempo X960 Smart Device! I've been fortunate enough to be given a review sample of this latest device from Acer, one of their first since their purchase of ETEN corp, and I can tell you, the Acer styling is getting right in there.
First off all, lets take a look as some pics of this gorgeous device.
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As you can see, a sexy looking device that's slim, light and extremely comfortable in the hand and has no irritating bevel around the edge of the screen to get in the way of using it.
Device Specification
Right, Let's get the technical stuff over with.
Operating System:
Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional (Crossbow)
Processor:
Samsung S3C 6410 533 MHz Processor with one DRAM
Memory:
256 MB Flash ROM, 128 MB SDRAM
Display:
2.8", 640 x 480 (VGA), 65,536 colors, TFT-LCD
Dimensions(L x W x H):
106.4(L) x 59 (W) x 13.7(14.8 ) (H) mm
Weight:
131.5g
Communications:
HSDPA 7.2 / HSUPA 2.0 / UMTS (2100 / 1900 / 850 MHz)
Quad-Band GSM：850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
GPRS class 11 / EDGE class 11
Bluetooth® v2.0 class 2 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate),
WiFi IEEE802.11b/g Certificated
GPS:
Embedded SiRF Star III chipset, TMC function supported*,
(*Subjected to changes by region)
Camera:
Built-in 3.2 mega pixels Auto-Focus CMOS camera, up to 2048 x 1536 resolution
0.3 mega pixels Fixed-Focus CMOS camera for Video Telephony usage
Light sensor (L-Sensor):
Sensing the brightness of environment to adjust panel luminance
Expansibility:
MicroSD card slot
Interface/Audio:
Built-in microphone and speaker, hands-free mode supported
Interface/Data:
USB Sync
Ergonomic Design:
Touch screen for stylus or fingertip, power button, 2 quick application buttons (GPS/Home), send/end button, record button, volume control,
Battery:
Lithium Polymer rechargeable with 1,530 mAh capacity
Talk time: 3G: 4h depend on usage / 2G: 5h depend on usage
Standby: 150h depends on usage
Pocket PC usage: 10~15 hour
GPS usage: 2.5~5 hour
* Highly dependent on usage rate/behaviour
Software (pre-loaded*):
Windows [email protected] 6.1 Professional
1. Microsoft® Office Outlook Mobile (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks and Inbox)
2. Microsoft® Office Word Mobile / Microsoft® Office Excel Mobile / Microsoft® Office PowerPoint Mobile.
3. MSN® Messenger / Microsoft® Transcriber / Windows Media® Player 10.
4. Picture / Notes / Internet Explorer Mobile / ActiveSync / Calculator / Game (Solitaire, Bubble Breaker).
5. Microsoft Reader* (* region/territories dependent)
Acer Exclusive Applications:
User interface: Acer Shell v2.0
Phone Tools: Phone settings, SIM toolkit, Speed dial, Communication manager, CSD type, Connection wizard, SMS sender, SIM manager, MMS composer
Multimedia Tools: Pictures & Videos, Camera /Camcorder, Album, Streaming player, Media player
Utilities: Backup utility, Default Settings, Application recovery, Memory Optimization
(*Subjected to changes by region)
A very well specified device that places it squarely in the upper bracket of modern Pocket PC devices, the Tempo X960 sports a highly capable processor with integral 3D capabilities and a custom shell application from Acer to simplify your daily use. Let's take a closer look at it, shall we?
Ergonomic Design
The Tempo X960 sports Acers new styling of a slick black casing with a glossy transflective touch screen flush with the casing. It's constructed of a sturdy plastic with a chromium plated rim and a rubberised back to prevent slipping on things like car dashboards and feels extremely comfortable and light in the hand.
The screen is far enough placed up in the device that swiping with your thumb is very comfortable and reaching the 4 hardware bottons and D-pad on the front is also extremely easy on the hand.
The buttons here are your typical Call and Hang up on either side, the D-Pad in the centre, and also a GPS and Home key. More on those later.
Also located on the front is the VGA front camera, primarily intended for 3G video calls, a light sensor for automatic brightness adjustment, and a raised slit for the ear piece. Hiding either side of this slit are the standard status LED's you expect on all Pocket PC's. Power, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS.
Connectors
Starting with the left side, from top to bottom we have a place to fit a lanyard, a +/- volume rocker, a reset hole and the Record button.
On the bottom there is a single mini-USB connector which is the standard these days for Pocket PC charging and synching. This port also doubles as a headphone connector.
On the right side, from top to bottom, we have the power button, Micro-SD card slot, camera button and the bay for the included telescoping stylus.
All of these buttons and slots are flush with the chromed trim which is nice, though I found the SD card slot a little tricky to remove with my fingernail, Mind you, I have chunky fingers so that's probably at least partly the cause. It's not like we'll be opening this regularly anyway, you'll see why a little later.
On the top edge we have the letters GPS.
Behind these hides the antenna for the highly capable SiRF III GPS chipset built in to this device.
On the back we have the main 3.2 megapixel camera with an LED flash and a micro mirror for those self portraits.
Also here are two small speaker grilles, though there is only one speaker actually in the device. Finally, we battery cover which is easy to remove, yet feels of good sturdy construction. This hides the 1530mAh battery and the SIM slot.
Right, that's the hardware covered, so let's switch this puppy on, shall we?
Software
Right, first of all, let's get one thing straight, Acer like black. If there's one thing you're going to see a lot of in Acer's phones, it's black. From the slick outer casing, to the software on the device. Lots and lots of black. I happen to like black, so this suits me right down to the ground.
So... After that admittedly dull boot logo, you are then presented with the regular green Windows Mobile 6.1 startup screen. This hangs around for a short while, before you're presented with this:
This is Acer's all new singing and dancing Acer Shell 2.0. Don't ask me where 1.0 went, I've never seen it and I have no idea if it exists. Who cares anyway? We now have Acer Shell 2.0, and I happen to quite like it.
Anyway, it basically simulates an actual desktop, complete with window showing you the weather outside (by the way, this bit is animated! If it's raining, you'll get rain on your window ), and from what I can tell, appears to be flash based. You can move objects around on the desk, you have three "panes" to help you do this, and on pane 3 there's even a shelf to put stuff too. You can also take objects off the desk if you should wish.
Here's a closer look showing all 3 "panes" of the desk. accessed with a left/right swipe of the finger.
BTW, if you're wondering why these pics are different to the bigger one above, it's because some shots are promo shots from Acer, and some are from the device in my hand. These ones are from my device.
Tapping on any of these objects will open them up to custom applets such as contacts, email, weather forecasts, quick launch, bookmarks, and a rather nifty music player.
As well as the Acer Shell, there are also some other programs preinstalled, these include Google Maps, the new Internet Explorer 6 Mobile (which I have to say, is a massive improvement over PIE and even handles YouTube straight out of the box).
There is also the standard ETEN suit of applications, now rebadged to Acer, that many are used to on the previous Glofiish range of phones such as the GPS Viewer, Application Recovery, Backup, Memory Optimization, Task Manager, Profiles and so on, as well as the usual Windows Mobile stuff such as Office Mobile, MSN Messenger, Live Search.
Two new things of note. We now have a Notification Manager, which can notify you of new updates, and even download for Over The Air updating. Very useful, though I'd be careful of your data charges there. Also, we have what is quite possibly THE most important addition to Windows Mobile ever, and I thank Acer from the bottom of my heart for adding it; card reader mode.
Yes, that's right! When you connect to your PC, you will now be asked if you want to go in to one of three modes:
* Activesync
* Card Reader
* Internet Sharing
The middle one is the important one. Card Reader. When in this mode, the SD card in your device will appear as a normal drive on your PC, and you can transfer files at FULL USB 2 transfer speeds! No more being limited by the horrible speed restrictions of ActiveSync! Finally, you can stop carrying that little card reader with you... Thank you SO MUCH, Acer!
In Use
Right, so... I've had this device in my hands for a couple of weeks now, and I've been using it as my daily phone since it arrived and I have to say, this is by far my most favourite Pocket PC to date.
It's comfy in my hand, it's light, it hardly makes an impression in my shirt pocket. It has a clear VGA screen and thanks to the 533mhz Samsung processor, it's pretty snappy to respond, lagging a little only when some memory pig of an application decided it was going to bully the rest of the device, and THAT only happened when I was randomly installing all sorts of stuff on it.
Typing on it suffers from the same problem ALL touch screen devices suffer from; that of having to use a software keyboard. The standard Microsoft one is the usual fair, needing the stylus to type, but Acer have given us a much easier to use "Easy Keyboard", not too dissimilar to Apple's one on the iPhone, and this one is easy enough to use with the finger.
The audio quality is excellent, both in normal and speakerphone modes, as well as video calls, and whilst it uses a USB connector for audio headsets, the ones it comes with are of good quality and are comfortable to wear.
TomTom 6 & 7 both work a charm on it with GPS fix being picked up in 15-20 seconds from cold in an open area.
Battery life I found to be pretty impressive too, with me going 3 days on average between charges. Not bad considering all the hardware packed into this neat little device, all demanding their share of the 1530mAh battery.
Overall Impression
I've used a lot of Pocket PC devices in my time, so I think I can honestly say that I'm not that easily impressed, but Acer have managed to impress me with the Tempo X960. Sure, it's not perfect, show me a device which IS, but it's very very GOOD at what it does.
For me, I think it's biggest plus points are its size and speed, coupled with comfort of use and quality of the audio. All the rest of the stuff is just bling on the core of what is a very well constructed phone.
I think I can sum up my overall feelings about the Tempo X960 thusly... If Acer want this review unit back, they're going to have to fight me for it! Or... they could just send me an invoice.
Thanks a lot
Exellent review!
Now I have it completly discarded
Looks like a nice phone.
unfortunately a 2.8 touchscreen and no HW keyboard doesn't quite work for me.
If you have small hands, or don't need to use it for email it seems like a good option.
Looks like a cool phone, ill do some more research, and maybe check ebay. -Thanks
orb3000 said:
Now I have it completly discarded
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Mind if I ask why that is?
Great review. Could you be kind enough to dump the rom so we could ectract the acer software. That shell sounds like a joy to use.
addicus said:
Great review. Could you be kind enough to dump the rom so we could ectract the acer software. That shell sounds like a joy to use.
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Sorry, but I can't. If I do, I can kiss goodbye to ever getting review units from Acer again, and I'm not willing to take that chance.
FloatingFatMan said:
Mind if I ask why that is?
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2 reasons:
1.- No physical keyboard!! (Is a must for me)
2.- No HTC build (That means no great support from this forum)
Cheers,
FloatingFatMan said:
Sorry, but I can't. If I do, I can kiss goodbye to ever getting review units from Acer again, and I'm not willing to take that chance.
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My apologies. It was rude of me to ask.
No worries. There's nothing wrong with trying, right?
Hi,
Thanks for the review. I am more taken with the M900. If you can get one from Acer can you review that for us? I know it is much bigger but I like its feature set better.
I saw a Russian preview of the M900 which seems to claim the the Qualcomm procs are faster than the Samsung one...I always thought it was the other way round!! Do you have any feelings about that from your review x960, and maybe you can run some benchmarks, even though the stats are often different from real life usage. Finally, do videos run smoothly on it?
Thanks,
Antony
Nicely written review. I do hope ACER will make a clamshell device.
Would you be able to give ACER suggestions that WE NEED A CLAMSHELL DEVICE with a fast processor please?
All devices that are coming out are all either lacking a keyboard, or if they have one, it's just a reshelve version of the first one like the HTC Touch PRO 2.
This 2.8" screen is just too small now a days...an Acer with a bigger 3.5 or more screen could be nice for you!
GPS:
Embedded SiRF Star III chipset, TMC function supported*,
(*Subjected to changes by region)
damn i wish my Touch HD had this type of GPS reciever!
However in the end, it's Acer, and Acer quality control is the worse i have ever seen.
AntonyL said:
Hi,
Thanks for the review. I am more taken with the M900. If you can get one from Acer can you review that for us? I know it is much bigger but I like its feature set better.
I saw a Russian preview of the M900 which seems to claim the the Qualcomm procs are faster than the Samsung one...I always thought it was the other way round!! Do you have any feelings about that from your review x960, and maybe you can run some benchmarks, even though the stats are often different from real life usage. Finally, do videos run smoothly on it?
Thanks,
Antony
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Funny you should mention that. I have an M900 in my hands too and am writing a review of it. Will take a little while tho.
As for speed, I've never used a HTC Diamond so can't compare them, but these devices are WAY faster than my Kaiser. I'll be happy to benchmark them for you though.. Which benchmark program would you suggest?
Video run flawlessly, without having to recode them to lower resolutions, but like with all devices, it depends very much on the bitrate they're encoded at. For example, I've tried watching Cars and High School Musical 1 on both phones in CorePlayer. Cars played perfectly, HSM was a tiny bit jerky. Both were DiVX files at 720x480 resolution, but HSM was encoded at a much higher bitrate than cars. Don't have the files on the phone atm to say exactly what the bitrate was though.
Psygnosis84 said:
GPS:
However in the end, it's Acer, and Acer quality control is the worse i have ever seen.
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Never experienced any build quality issues on any of my Acer stuff...
galaxys said:
This 2.8" screen is just too small now a days...an Acer with a bigger 3.5 or more screen could be nice for you!
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The M900 has a 3.8" screen and a hardware keyboard. Review "soon".
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Never experienced any build quality issues on any of my Acer stuff...
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I'm more referring to their PC ventures, worse stuff ever made.
Hopefully they have a better team for their mobile division.
Pocketable mobile internet terminal integrating
mobile phone, GPS and laptop computer into one * 4.8' touch screen;
* VGA output to 1920 * 1200 resolution;
* Keyboard: Double-thumb input greatly improves your speed to write a message or e-mail, which is more than 3 times faster than normal mobile phone input. After a period of use, your touch typing speed on xpPhone can reach up to 90% of that on a desktop computer;
* Input method: xpPhone supports 5-stroke input, Google Chinese Pinyin input method and etc. Standard Specification(Configuration) *CPU： AMD Super Mobile CPU
* Memory：512M/1G
* SSD: 8G/16G/32G/64G
* HDD：30G/60G/80G/120G
* LCD: 4.8' TFT Touch-screen LCD 800*480
* Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP
* Network：GSM/GPRS/EDGE/WCDMA (HSDPA/HSUPA)
CDMA/CDMA2000 1X/CDMA1X EVDO,TD-SCDMA，TD-HSDPA
* Wireless：WiFi 802.11b/g,WiMax(optional),Buletooth,Stand-alone GPS
* Camera Specifications:CMOS, 300k/1.3 Million
* Ports:1 x earphone jack,1 x microphone jack,Docking Connector
(include VGA output signal ),1 x USB 2.0, SIM Slot
* Power Management:
Battery: Removable Lithium-ion
Talk time: about 5 hours,Stand by time: about 5 days
Real life: about 7 hours(Standard), about 12 hours(Large)
Talk time，Standby time，Operation time may vary depending different usage.
* Weight: 400g (include battery)
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/23/xpphone-7-phone-shows-off-browsing-over-3g.aspx
(vid)
http://www.xpphone.com/en/product/functions.html
where can i buy this? dont care about the price. I WANT THIS
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where can i buy this? dont care about the price. I WANT THIS
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IDK havn't heard anything else about this!
Anyone know anything?
There are several news on this phone on Engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/xpphone-teased-with-specs-and-pictures-makes-windows-xp-young-a/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/itg-xpphone-shown-off-in-green-and-yes-you-can-have-a-differen/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/itgs-windows-xp-loving-xpphone-now-accepting-pre-orders-worldwi/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/itg-xpphone-seen-powering-up-on-video/
but no news on price yet.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/23/xpphone-7-phone-shows-off-browsing-over-3g.aspx
More show
meh
been following that for a while. it sounds great but i'll believe it wheb i see it. it has been rumored to have lots of upgrade options including ssd drives and even win7
Something like this is the viliv s5, a few versions have a voice capable 3g modem, but there is no built in mic, so you would need bluetooth or something. My guess on this for the cpu would be an amd geode, but they may have stopped making those
Great device, but battery life doesn't look promising... I would still like to buy one if it wouldn't cost too much. But what on earth is AMD super mobile CPU ?! I need a thing to play GTA vice city, not less
Wow you really brought an almost year old thread back from the dead?
well. yes, but that device is going to be released only now, so this topic is not outdated. I have contacted their sales manager, and this what they say:
1."Graphical processor hardware: LX800. You can use graphical software as notebook PC."
2. "The AMD CPU is customized from AMD, it's quick, and you can try later." (it made everything really clear )
it's on sale right now. My question is how does one activate it on verizon? It lists CDMA for being supported.
http://en.xpphone.com/product/product.html
I want one. But would like to know what kind of touch screen is has. And a speed test as well.
could be awesome to have the OS on HD2
WAUW. IT does say that it can run WINDOWS 7 - AWESOME. Would love to hear if anyone have tried this Super Phoney
It looks nice!
Hope anybody can give a review
I searched on youtube and found some information about it,although they are good but not enough to understand how it is in action.
I'm waiting for a good review , too
please share your experiance of using this great phone if you got any
please tell me also is there any difference between embedded and normal version of windows?
I mean if I have a normal windows XP CD for my PC can I install it on this phone?
ResurrectionTime
xpPhone 2 Windows 8
http://en.xpphone.com/news/kuaibao/114.html
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I searched on youtube and found some information about it,although they are good but not enough to understand how it is in action.
I'm waiting for a good review , too
please share your experiance of using this great phone if you got any
please tell me also is there any difference between embedded and normal version of windows?
I mean if I have a normal windows XP CD for my PC can I install it on this phone?
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I dared to order a xpphone so i can answer your questions now:
The embedded XP is a real windows, it gives the device-producer the possibility to leave functions out of the system that are not needed in this special case. So you can install a normal windows on this device. Sadly ITG does not provide any separate drivers, so with a normal XP you would not be able to use internal components of the device that need their own drivers.
Short summary: device and customer care are VERY disappointing if you try to use it as an all-day-phone. Please see also my comment here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503531
Hi, Im very interested in one of these sunno phones, there are 3 models, 1 of them is a cheap copy that I wont buy. The other ones are originals from sunno factory, witch one would you choose? please let me know why
There are 3 kind of s880, (please tell us about them if you have any of them)
The great one:
CPU: Marvell PXA310(1GHZ)
Look at the back camera(thats the diference)
Main 5mpx cam,
No android os
Just wm6.5
Where to buy?: www china-mobile-phone com
PICS:
N/A I have links restriction
The second most powerfull:
CPU: Unknown 806MHZ processor 256RAM
Diferent back camera, 8mpx
DUAL BOOT OS Android and WM6.5
Where to buy?: Anywhere, the most common one
PICS: N/A I have links restriction
The third, "the cheap one":
CPU: Hisilicon K3 460Mhz
8Mpx camera
WM6.5 and Android
Where to buy?: This one seems to be a cheap copy, so be aware. If you find that back camera in a s880, thats a cheap copy.
PICS: N/A I have links restriction
I will add photos to this post when my links restriction is gone
Please, give me your opinion about witch one should I buy, and why
thanks!
Hi Mhz250,
I've been delivered the model you describe as "The Great One", i.e. with 1GHz processor (at least, that's what it reports) and NOT dual boot.
I can't tell you which one to buy as I'm not familiar with the others, but below are some of my impressions. As a disclaimer, the model I'd ordered was meant to be the dual boot one, so I'm a bit disgruntled, and also this is my first smart phone, so I don't have anything to compare it to with regards performance. However I do have an Ipod touch so I'm familiar with capacitive screens.
Build Quality:
The body feels reasonably solid. There's a bit of a plastic squeek when you squeeze if from the sides but otherwise there's a nice weight to it. The battery cover is metal and again feels solid.
The buttons below the screen and the two volume buttons on the side feel robust, but the cover for the memory card slot is a loose friction fit, and the small power button feels like it might eventually fall out.
Screen quality:
Brightness:
It doesn't seem as bright as my Ipod touch, even with the lightness up full. I've not tried to use it outdoors on a sunny day (I'm avoiding using it until I've my support query on sorting the dual-os settled) but for indoor use it has been fine.
Touch:
I'm using a screen protector that I ordered with the phone, which might have an effect on the responsiveness. It is a resistive screen rather than capacitive: sometimes a light touch is sufficient to get a response, other times you've got to press firmly. I'd characterise the difference like this:
- with a capacitive screen you can lightly "swoosh" with the pad of a finger to scroll
- with the S880, I find I either have to drag with the pad of my finger to scroll, or else use the tip of my finger/nail.
- in general, I find I've to re-enter my taps etc to get a response some of the time, other times it works fine.
- also bear in mind that you will not have multi-touch (pinch-to-zoom), which makes browsing less convenient.
OS:
In my opinion Windows mobile 6.5 is not very nice to use without a stylus: the settings menus and the keyboard are rather small and, although not impossible to use with the tip of your finger, it's still quite easy to select the wrong item. Note that the S880 doesn't come with one of those built-in stylus slots (or even a stylus). Installing FingerKeyboard helps with the keyboard issue, but doesn't help with the small menus.
The lack of an "alt-tab" built in to the OS to switch between running apps is a pain. Perhaps due to my unfamiliarity with the OS, I keep finding myself back at the home screen and have to re-navigate to the application (sometimes via task manager).
I downloaded a trial of SPB Mobile shell and that helps to make the screen feel more responsive. That's all very well while you're in the SPB shell (navigation) but when you finally arrive at the app, you're back in the Win6.5 world . It also adds an extra $30 to the factor into the cost, but if I cannot get the dual-os issue resolved, I'd personally go for this (and, before anyone asks, no, I'm not affiliated with SPB)
So, although this shouldn't be a review of the OS, in terms of selecting which S880 model to go for, all else being equal I'd lean towards the dual boot in order to be able to use Android. (I'm sure there are threads arguing over which OS is better, I don't mean to kick of any such debate here).
Conclusions
This is an admittedly selective review: for me, the two dominant factors are the resistive screen and the Windows interface, neither of which I particularly like, and I don't think they compliment each other.
I hope this helps!
Hi itburns!
thanks very much for such a great personal opinion! Could you test the camera for me? I really would like to know if it can take pictures at night, what's the pictures quality, real MPX of the camera.
Could you also please tell us your opinion about the speed of the phone? try to use a couple of apps at the same time and see what happends. Or a 3d game if you can!
Thanks again
Thanks for a good review! Its always nice to get personal feedback on Chinese cloned phones!
>Could you test the camera for me? I really would like to know if it can take pictures at night, what's the pictures quality, real MPX of the camera.
The camera has a popup controls dialog with the following settings
- Resolution: L, 1M, 2M, 3M
- White Balance: Auto, night, daylight, {some bizarre symbol that might mean fluorescent light}, incandescent light (a traditional lightbulb)
- EV: +/- 2 stops
- Location for storage;
- Wide-screen review
- Auto-timer
There's also a quick route to view stored pictures and a menu: the menu has
- Special Effect ( a bunch like b&w, sepia, etc)
- Snap sound
- Flash
- Iamge[sic] Quality : High Low Normal
- About: Camera V1.0
I took just a couple of shots outside at twilight and at night. Twilight ones appeared on the screen pretty close to what I was seeing. Not entirely sure what you were looking for with the night shots: they look dark, naturally! I've not viewed them on a pc yet (so no opinion on the quality) but on the phone's screen you can make out street lights etc. in the night shots
Stored as: Jpeg
Sizes: 2048 x 1246, 1600x960, 1280x768,
> Could you also please tell us your opinion about the speed of the phone?
> try to use a couple of apps at the same time and see what happends.
> Or a 3d game if you can!
If I'm not mistaken, apps don't run seem to concurrently in Windows Mobile: i.e. although in RAM, they remain in a sleep mode until you switch to them. This seems to be backed up by the view in task manager: CPU usage remains 0% for "running" apps. So running other apps shouldn't really affect performance other than by hogging RAM.
I've no 3D games (and anyway, as this is my first smart phone, I'd have nothing to compare with). As an aside, the phone has Teeter installed (one of those marble-around-a-maze) which, although it doesn't show off the graphics or processing, it does show off the gravity sensor and it works really well.
I did a quick scan of xda-developers for benchmarking and came across SPB Benchmark (again, I'm not affiliated with SPB!). I'll give that a run and let you know. I don't know if there are other benchmark tests worth looking at?
Hello,
You can look at the technical characteristics of Sunno S880. This smartphone model uses Marvell PXA 310 806 MHz processor but the actual CPU frequency is 624 MHz. The CPU is fast and works well with almost all applications. It can run on Windows Mobile and Android, but for now there is not a complete ROM for Android. The camera is type CMOS sensor, 1944x2592 pixels, 5MP and its quality is not different from the other Sunno Smartphone models. It depends on the environmental light, however, there are different built-in filters that improve the image quality.
Hi infobg,
thanks for that link: the model I has some differences to the one listed:
-cosmetically, the back plate looks distinctly different, while there's a slight difference on the front.
- the device information (as reported by the device itself) states
CPU Model: Marvell PXA310
CPU Speed: 1GHz
So either this is a slightly different model to the one at the link, or the information can be/is faked in WinMob Settings/Device Info.
Could you explain a bit more "for now there is not a complete ROM for Android" - I have a complaint in with my seller because the phone doesn't support Android. Is a ROM due soon, and how could I get it?
Many thanks
Hi Itburns,
the information on the website is actual. We have added a link to the Marvell PXA310 CPU specifications. It runs well up to 624 MHz, so bear in mind that Windows may not show the right information because the equipment information is recorded by the software developer. This CPU generally supports the Android core, but there isn't yet a stable version for it.
It seems we need a benchmark of your phone itburns.
infobg, I've been researching a LOT in the web and there are actually 3 models of this phone. One of them seem to be a fake, another seem to be a old model and the other is the actual model(the one with 806Mhz CPU running at 624mhz)
It seems that the first model was the one with 1Ghz processor.
Itburns, hope we can see your benchmark test soon!
Im looking to buy your s880 model
Sunno S880 Benchmark
Description
The SPB Benchmark software runs a series of separate tests under the following headings:
- Main
- Sorage Cards
- Battery
- Active Sync
Setup:
I skipped the battery test: it involves things like brining it to full power, then allowing it to run out of power, then repeating under different conditions; hadn’t got the patience.
General: - After initiating the test, I didn’t interact with the phone until the tests had run to completion.
- Connections all off: phone, Bluetooth, wifi
- Screen “lightness” set half-way and timeout for dimming set to 15 seconds.
Specific test setup- Main, File – performed with the phone powered by the mains (but with the battery also at 100% power.)
- Active Sync – performed with the phone connected to a HP laptop.
Results:
The Spb Benchmark “visualise results” didn’t work when the combined tests {Main, Storage Card, Active Sync} were in the results file, so I split out the storage card results and uploaded {Main, Active Sync}: it is possible that this could affect some of the cumulative results? Anyway I’ve copied the relevant part of the xml file below for the storage card test.
The comparand (iPaq 3650) has a 206 MHz Intel StrongARM SA-1110 32-bit RISC Processor (source ipaqrepair.co.uk)
- The “Pocket Word” and “Internet Explorer” tests did do something, I could see stuff pop up on the screen (which came alive during the test), so it is possible that the test just failed to grab the results. IT IS POSSIBLE (PROBABLE?) that the cumulative Spb Benchmark index is incomplete or unreliable, given the few failures?
- Note: for some values it would look like a low value is good (File system index?), but the hyperlinks on the spb site to explain the benchmarks seem to be broken, so I cannot be sure.
Spb Benchmark Indices
Spb Benchmark index: 463.21 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
CPU index: 2657.1 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
File system index: 183.66 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
Graphics index: 2018.77 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
ActiveSync index: 13219.63 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
Platform index: insufficient number of tests were done. (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
Main test results:
Test Time Speed % of iPAQ 3650* speed
Write 1 MB file :527 ms 1945 KB/sec 245%
Read 1 MB file : 121 ms 8.27 MB/sec 45%
Copy 1 MB file : 563 ms 1819 KB/sec 230%
Write 10 KB x 100 files : 3182 ms 322 KB/sec 57%
Read 10 KB x 100 files : 422 ms 2.37 MB/sec 37%
Copy 10 KB x 100 files : 3425 ms 299 KB/sec 63%
Directory list of 2000 files : 1280 ms 1.56 thousands of files/sec 1%
Internal database read : 510 ms 1962 records/sec 466%
Graphics test: DDB BitBlt : 16.5 ms 60.6 frames/sec 225%
Graphics test: DIB BitBlt : 85.7 ms 11.7 frames/sec 86%
Graphics test: GAPI BitBlt : 1 ms 1000 frames/sec 464%
Pocket Word document open : error
Pocket Internet Explorer HTML load : error
Pocket Internet Explorer JPEG load : error
File Explorer large folder list : 3346 ms 598 files/sec 116%
Compress 1 MB file using ZIP : 3106 ms 326 KB/sec 308%
Decompress 1024x768 JPEG file : 292 ms 961 KB/sec 301%
Arkaball frames per second : 2.86 ms 350 frames/sec 323%
CPU test: Whetstones MFLOPS : 2995 ms 0.124 Mop/sec 269%
CPU test: Whetstones MOPS : 722 ms 87.3 Mop/sec 256%
CPU test: Whetstones MWIPS : 6238 ms 8.02 Mop/sec 269%
Memory test: copy 1 MB using memcpy : 7.01 ms 143 MB/sec 203%
ActiveSync: upload 1 MB file : 870 ms 1177 KB/sec 1022%
ActiveSync: download 1 MB file : 375 ms 2730 KB/sec 2906% <storagecard-tests>
<storagecard-test card-name="Storage Card">
<sc-largefilewrite>1224.800000</sc-largefilewrite>
<sc-largefileread>372.700000</sc-largefileread>
<sc-largefilecopyto>592.300000</sc-largefilecopyto>
<sc-largefilecopyfrom>634.800000</sc-largefilecopyfrom>
<sc-manyfileswrite>5391.400000</sc-manyfileswrite>
<sc-manyfilesread>606.800000</sc-manyfilesread>
<sc-manyfilescopyto>4347.700000</sc-manyfilescopyto>
<sc-manyfilescopyfrom>2888.800000</sc-manyfilescopyfrom>
<sc-dirlisting>212.700000</sc-dirlisting>
</storagecard-test>
<storagecard-test card-name="built in storage">
<sc-largefilewrite>524.200000</sc-largefilewrite>
<sc-largefileread>122.100000</sc-largefileread>
<sc-largefilecopyto>560.700000</sc-largefilecopyto>
<sc-largefilecopyfrom>564.100000</sc-largefilecopyfrom>
<sc-manyfileswrite>3326.100000</sc-manyfileswrite>
<sc-manyfilesread>358.300000</sc-manyfilesread>
<sc-manyfilescopyto>3336.100000</sc-manyfilescopyto>
<sc-manyfilescopyfrom>3571.600000</sc-manyfilescopyfrom>
<sc-dirlisting>1226.000000</sc-dirlisting>
</storagecard-test>
</storagecard-tests>
Sunno S880 Benchmark - Second test
CORRECTION: In my first posting, I said that the S880 doesn't have a built-in stylus, but I have since found it! It is very neatly hidden in the bottom right of the phone.
Ok, I've now run SKTools' benchmark. There seems to be quite a variation in the results on different runs of the tests, so this is only a snapshot and may not indicate the best or worst performance of the S880. The SKTools results usefully provide results from other phones: in the results below, I've also given results for the Touch Diamond (528MHz), Samsung Omnia II (800MHz) and HDC Touch HD2 (1GHz). Mhz250, I took a look at the video on china mobile com and the form factor of the model matches my own.
Setup as before:
- phone plugged into mains
- connections off (bluetooth, phone, wifi)
- Screen lightness mid-way, with a timeout of 15 seconds
Results:
Integer: 347 Moves / 25usec :
Compare with: 331 HTC Touch Diamond (528MHz)
530 Samsung Ominia II (800Mhz)
813 HTC HD2 (1 GHz)
Floating point: 8.751
Compare with: 7.64 HTC Touch Diamond
11.40 Samsung Omia II
19.71 HTC HD2
Ram Access: 929
Compare with: 472 HTC Touch Diamond
795 Samsung Omia II
1445 HTC HD2
Draw Bitmaps: 1262
Compare with: 765 HTC Touch Diamond
1621 Samsung Omia II
1135 HTC HD2
Main storage (write): 1901
Compare with: 14698 (!!?) HTC Touch Diamond
3750 Samsung Omia II
4983 HTC HD2
Main storage (read): 5003
Compare with: 16786 (!!?) HTC Touch Diamond
9480 Samsung Omia II
63340 (!!?) HTC HD2
Sunno S880 Conclusions: Steer clear!
So, up to now I've been recording first impressions and also benchmarks. Now that I've had some time to use the Sunno S880 as a phone, it is worth adding: it's rubbish.
a) call quality is very poor - those calling me hear an echo of themselves and also complain that it's very hard to make out what I'm saying. So if you don't want to be continually be repeating yourself, avoid.
b) the phone continually loses signal, often mid call. And I'm not talking about areas of "poor reception", this happens in our capital city.
Additionally: battery life is very short, I was getting a drop of about 50% overnight with light usage (about two-three calls, 5 mins playing mah jong).
In the end, I had to cut my losses and buy the cheapest big-brand phone that I could live with, so I got a Samsung Tocco Lite. Although I'm no fan of its software interface, the call quality on the Tocco is crystal clear and there's none of the loss of signal that I was experiencing with the S880.
So I'd have to conclude: avoid the Sunno S880.
Sunno s880 pro
Hi everybody
I would like to give you my feed back about the Sunno S880pro.
First I bought this mobile phone to the website Mobino1, the shipping was fast.
1-My first surprise was that the package was a bulk ,not in a nice packet (like the samsung phone).
2-The phone in itself is nice , the screen also.
3-The problems comes when I wanted to use the phone.
The wireless, bluethoot and phone network are not stabile, I have always disconnections. An When a use the wireless, bluethoot the Battery discharges very quickly.
The Big Problem is that I cannot make a call and send SMS With the Mobile phone company "BASE" (in Belgium). So with friends we tested with anothers Mobile phone Company " Mobistar" & "Proximus",In this case the calling work well.
So I decided to change my subscription to Mobistar.
To my big surprise after two days the disconnection problems come back again.
I still have the problem actually.
I try in vain to find another ROM for this phone ,but I have not found.
If someone has the program, I m interested to have.
thank you for your understanding
sorry for my poor english
Emmanuel
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After months of advertising, the ICOO ICOU Fatty2 is now finally on sale. The entry-level price of the tablet (Wi-Fi only) is RMB 899 (USD 149), which is much higher than competitions like the Yuandao mini one (USD 119) and CHUWI V88s (USD 119), both of which have the same 7.9 inch IPS display. But the Fatty2 is pricier for a reason, the 5500mAh battery it features gives the slate an extraordinary 10-12 hours run time, and the Wi-Fi reception is the best I’ve experienced on a Chinese tablet!
Key Features:
◇7.9 inch 16M-color IPS display at XGA resolution (1024X768 pixels)
◇Weighs 310g, 198*134*7mm in size.
◇Rockchip RK3188 SoC., 1.6GHZ quad core Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP4 GPU, 1GB DDR3 RAM
◇Stock Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
◇16GB of built-in-storage
◇2.0MP front facing camera; 5.0MP rear-facing camera
◇Stereo speaker
◇HDMI TV-out
◇Bluetooth V2.1
◇USB host
◇MicroSD card slot
◇Standard 3.5mm audio jack
◇1080p video playback
◇5500mAh Li-Po rechargeable battery, 10-12 hours battery life
Main disadvantages:
Too similar to the iPad mini
So-so Cameras
Pricier than alternative options
First Impressions
The one thing that sticks out most about the Fatty2 is how much it looks like an iPad mini. And I'm not talking about the interface and apps, but the weight and size of the tablet, which is so thin and weighs so little you'd almost think you were browsing the web on a piece of paper.
The ICOU Fatty2 may not have the Retina Display and 2GB of DDR3 RAM of many 9.7 inch Chinese tablet, but it still looks beautiful and is extremely responsive. This shouldn't come as a surprise. Most apps are designed to run on standard resolution, only a few apps actually support the latest superior graphics of the retina display.
The 7.9-inch ICOU Fatty2 is only slightly larger than many 7 inchers, thanks to the narrow screen bezel it uses. When I pick it up with one hand, it seems just right. While many of the 8 inch tablets beg to be held with both hands, it feels natural to hold the Fatty in one hand, even for a long period of time.
Retail Package
It seems ICOO determined to stick to this colorful packaging approach for its tablet products this year. Fatty2 is wrapped up in a paperback box which has 7 colors to it. I personally prefer more simplistic style taken by Samsung and many other internationally well-known manufactures, but I can’t say that this packaging isn’t attractive.
Again, ICOO has carried on its wonderful tradition with a slew of buddle fittings. You will find a 5V-2A charger, a USB data cable, an OTG cable and a pair of SONY earphones along with the fatty2.
Design and Build
The front of the tablet is dominated by a 7.9 inch IPS display, with very small bezel around it. At 198*134mm, it is even smaller than the popular Apple iPad mini (200 x 134.7mm), and only slightly bigger than the Nexus 7 (198.5 x 120mm) and Kindle Fire HD (196.7 x 133), both of which use a much smaller 7-inch display.
As for thickness, the ICOO ICOU Fatty2 is easily the slimmest tablet I have ever seen, at 7mm it is even thinner than the ultra-slim iPad mini (7.2mm) and Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 (7.9mm). Although Yuandao has claimed the their so-called 6.8mm mini one is the thinnest tablet on earth, it is later proved to be just another lie, amongst many lies told by this unprincipled tablet maker.
All the connectors are hosted on the bottom edge. From left to right are a mini HDMI port, a micro USB port, a 2.5mm DC port, a 3.5mm audio jack, a tiny microphone pinhole and a MicroSD card slot which supports cards up to 32GB.
Again, ICOO has taken a simplistic approach with the hardware keys, only a power/standby key and a volume rocker will be found on the transition area between the right edge and the back. Personally, I dislike the arrangement that the power button is actually below the volume rockers. Moreover, I am really disappointed that, in portrait mode, the lower part of the volume rocker is actually volume +. I know this may be due to the fact that we more often use the tablet in vertical mode, but if a tablet is designed to be like an iPad, it should be arranged like an iPad.
The back of the slate is partially plastic, partially aluminum. This is, contrary to the button layout, a brilliant arrangement. The plastic can guarantee solid Wi-Fi reception, and the use of hairline metal can avoid the feel of cheapness. A 5MP auto-focus front facing camera sits comfortably on the upper left corner, and the only speaker gate is on the lower left corner.
Also, you can choose to purchase a magnetic protection cover or a Bluetooth keyboard for your Fatty2, both of which are at relatively low price (cover: $7, Keyboard: $17). When you open the cover, the Fatty2 magically wakes up. And while you close it, the Fatty2 automatically goes to sleep. I have only seen this useful function on the iPad series and some Windows tablet before. Its presence here on a low-price Chinese tablet is pretty surprising. The Bluetooth keyboard feels even more solid than the tablet itself, at just 7.7mm thick it can turn your Fatty2 into a super-slim ultra laptop in just a second!
Screen
The Fatty2 sports exactly the same display used on the iPad mini. The IPS display technology together with the 7.9” XGA display delivers seamlessly brilliant colors that redefines the best visual experience a tablet can offer.
The ultra slim 7.9” XGA display offers brilliant contrast ratio, the best color gamut and response time, making text or image-viewing extraordinarily crispy and vivid regardless the viewing angle.
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There is nothing special about the resolution and some 7" tablets like the Nexus7 and the Kindle Fire HD even push the pixel density above 200 ppi. If you did the math already, you'd know the Fatty2 is far behind at 163 ppi. The Retina display of the new iPad is the standard-setter in tablets at 264 ppi, and you will always keep in mind the existence of the Google Nexus 10, which holds the tablet record of 300ppi. Hacing said that, the Fatty2’s display is still vivid enough for most users, packing an XGA resolution in such a small screen definitely brings much better visual experience than most of the computers.
Even when you put the Fatty2 next to the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, which features a more expensive, more vibrant Super AMOLED Plus display, it still won’t be outshined. In fact, the IPS display the Fatty2 sports is likely to be more accepted by the majority of users as its color expression is more close to real.
Performance
The Fatty2 is powered by the 1.6GHZ quad core RK3188 Chipset, along with 1GB DDR3 RAM, which put up some incredible benchmark scores.
The 17,472 overall Antutu benchmark score handily beat the 16,734 notched by the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0, and smashed scores achieved by the Allwinner A31 powered Onda V818 mini and Actions ATM7029 powered Ainol NOVO8 Dream.
It’s more or less the same story on the Quadrant Advanced. Again, the RK3188 powered Fatty2 scored higher points than the other 3 devices.
In the graphics-focused Nenamark2 test, the Fatty2 scored 55.6 FPS, higher than the category average. But the Allwinner A31 powered Onda V818 mini scored a much more impressive 58.9 FPS, thanks to its impeccable PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU.
The An3D Bench XL also centers on the 3D capability of the device. But the Fatty2 turned the tide around this time, notching an incredible 37,018, blowing the other 8 inch competitions out of the water.
Vellamo is by far my favorite Benchmark application, the scores of certain device are very consistent, regardless of the version of the software. Although the Fatty2 was beaten by the more all-optimized Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 in both HTML5 and Metal test, it still smashed the other two quad-core slates.
CF-bench also witnessed the Fatty2’s capability, the 15888 final score easily outshined its competitions.
Fortunately, the Fatty2’s real world performance cohere with its benchmark scores, at XGA resolution, it is truly the fastest tablet I have ever used, and I want to continue using it until the Quad Core A15 era’s here.
The stock web browser works fine enough, but I am more of a fan of Dolphin HD and Chrome. Even with more than a dozen of webpages opened in different tabs, the Fatty2 remained super responsive with no delay and lag at all. Most apps I have used on this device work perfectly, but with this resolution you will find a few of the apps specifically made for 16:10 screens appeared somewhat distorted on the Fatty2’s display, but I don't mind that as the screen and colors are incredibly amazing, and until you hold this in your hand it’s hard to put in writing just how beautiful it really is.
With 1GB of DDR3 RAM, the Fatty2 isn’t as strong as the PIPO M9 in multi-tasking, with lots of big applications running at the same time the smoothness could be crippled. By big applications I am not talking about the chatting apps such as Skype and ICQ, or even games like the “Angry Bird” and “Temple Run”, I am talking about real big apps such as “IRON MAN 3” and some Office applications. So, for anyone who’s not a psycho tester like myself, the Fatty2’s RAM is enough!
Although the Fatty2 isn't exactly the most incredible multi-tasker, it really shines in the game department. In both portrait and landscape modes, the tablet is easy to hold and control, making it a snap to play games where you need both thumbs on the screen. One-handed tapping and swiping is easy as well, thanks to the form factor of the unit. While you can appreciate the size of a 10-inch tablet for gaming, the 7.9 feels very good in your hands. Also, it had no issues with any of the games I opened up on it, ranging from “Temple Run 2” to “Fruit Ninja: Puss in Boots” to “Virtua Tennis” to that lone pre-loaded level of “Dead Space”. I even loaded the insanely graphic-intense “Need for Speed: the Most Wanted”, and quickly became obsessed with the fast racing and crushing. Despite the fact that these games can be processor intensive, particularly on a tablet, I had no issues whatsoever.
Movies and Videos play very well with the stock video player and there are several on the market you can use if you find videos that do not work on the stock player. In my actual test, I have no problem playing any local video file in my mobile disk. Even with a few 1080P videos which cannot be played through hard-decision decoding, you can use soft decode them smoothly, thanks to the extremely powerful RK3188 quad core chipset.
Audio
Sound-wise, while the HD videos really show off what this tablet is capable of, you'll want some headphones or an external sound solution. I am not saying the Fatty2’s speakers are bad, in fact, it is much better than most of the 7-8 inch tablets I have used in the audio department. But the single speaker still doesn't pack nearly as powerful an audio punch to match the visuals. Even at full volume, sounds like a whirring computer fan or a printer will easily drown out anything from the tablet.
Cameras
The cameras mounted on the ICOO Fatty2 aren't anything to write home about. Rear camera photos are decent, especially if you have enough light, and shooting video in 720 HD also can be seen as a bonus.
Of course, 5MP cameras on different Chinese tablets perform pretty much the same, and the Fatty2 isn’t really disappointing, it just cannot produce crisp HD photos that you would expect to go with this fabulous display. It is still worth using the camera on-board, especially because if you've ever seen someone holding up a full-sized iPad to take a photo or shoot video, you know how ridiculous they look. With this sleek 7.9-inch pad, it's much easier to get away with using it as a camera and not looking like you're a protester at a rally.
Connectivity
The Fatty2 is well equipped in terms of connectivity. There is a Micro USB connector for computer connection. There is a microSD card slot as well. The 16GB of internal storage helps too.
The Wi-Fi support includes a/b/g/n versions, with both 2.4GHz and 5GHz band compatibility. Wi-Fi Direct and DLNA support are also available. In my actual test, the Fatty2’s Wi-Fi reception is more than satisfactory, thanks to the M500 Wi-Fi module it features. This type of Wi-Fi Module is more often seen on those high-end smartphones. Below is the readings of Wi-Fi Analyzer on different spots and the comparison with readings of other tablets:
Also, the addition of Bluetooth is always a good thing, not only can u use it to transmit files without a data cable, u could also connect your tablet to those bluetooth input and audio devices:
Naturally, the Fatty2 supports USB on-the-go, and the adapter is already packaged in the paperback box along with the tablet. You can connect card readers, USB flash drives and other compatible devices to your tablet and access their contents through the file manager. Mice and keyboards are supported as well.
Unlike the iPad or Samsung Galaxy tabs, there is an independent mini HDMI port, all you need to do is to buy a $5 HDMI cable, and you can enjoy your tablet content on a much bigger screen.
Battery Life
The tablet is powered by a 5500mAh battery which, coupled with the power-efficient 28nm RK3188 SoC., is more than enough to make the Fatty2 one of the best tablets in terms of battery backup. In our battery test the slate achieved a score of 86 hours. This means that if you use the Fatty2 for an hour each of gaming, web browsing, and video playback every day, you will have to recharge it every 86 hours. And the tablet stood 11 hours, 55 minutes of online video streaming (30% of screen brightness, 50% of speaker volume), blowing the Beneve Miracle One’s 10 hour record out of the water:
In local video playback, the ICOU Fatty2 broke the long-held record by Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, and smashed the other 8-inch Android tablets I’ve tested:
Charging the tablet is relatively fast, with the buddle 5V-2A charger you only have to wait 3 hours for a full charge (0%—100%). Shutdown charging support not only guarantees the efficiency, but also gives the tablet a longer life span.
Verdict
The good:
1. The screen is truly impressive. Although the resolution doesn't match the iPad4 and Nexus10's Retina Display, it is definitely in the same ballpark and provides very crisp images.
2. The slim chassis and narrow bezel design make holding the tablet in one hand no longer that much of an effort.
3. The slew of ports and slots the Fatty2 provides for its users are truly wonderful, you no longer need to buy expensive adapters to enjoy functions such as HDMI or OTG.
4. The Wi-Fi reception of the tablet is amazing, arguably the best I have experienced on a Chinese tablet.
5. The 5500mAh battery paired up with the power-efficient RK3188 SoC. gives the tablet an incredible 10-12 hours’ run time.
The bad:
1. The price is the biggest barrier to fully enjoying the Fatty2. Although compared to the iPad and the bunch of Samsung tablets, it is incredibly cheap already, yet its major competition comes from other Chinese tablet makers: the Yuandao Mini One, the Chuwi V88s and CUBE U35GT are all $30 cheaper than the Fatty2.
2. The Fatty2 ships with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and uses the stock user interface. Although ICOO has promised an upgrade to Android 4.2 and a delicately designed Metro Launcher, and there are already a few beta ROMs out there. However, without a clear date in sight who knows when the official ROM will arrive.
3. With the 7.9 inch display and similar-sized chassis, it is pretty much another iPad mini look-alike, and this can bring you some queerish stares and annoying questions.
Final verdict
The form and size of the Fatty2 feels perfect for a device you can grab to take with you for a long trip, a meeting, or a trip to the ballpark. It isn't as unwieldy as a 10-inch tablet, but the tradeoff is the screen loses real estate previously devoted to input. As a result, it doesn't feel like a serious business device, even if you paired it up with the Bluetooth keyboard, the lack of capable Office applications is still standing in the way of carrying this Android slate around for tight-scheduled business meetings.
What you will really find in the Fatty2 is a very pretty, functional media device. Android fans should consider this device if it fits their needs, but with other similar options in lower price ranges, you'll want to take a hard look at those needs and decide if it actually works for what you need it to do. For a casual entertainment unit, it works well. Any more than that, and you're going to find the capabilities stretched very thin.
With more Chinese tablets coming to the table every day, most now in quad-core configurations and with equally impressive screen options, the Fatty2 faces quick obsolescence unless it can compete. A price drop and software upgrade would be a big step in the right direction.
This review took me weeks to finish, why doesn't anybody care to read it?
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
jupiter2012 said:
This review took me weeks to finish, why doesn't anybody care to read it?
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
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because it's too long.
Wow nice review, where did you buy?
vetro5 said:
Wow nice review, where did you buy?
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Yes, and more importantly, where to buy at $149. USD. The prices I have seen via Google search point to $200. USD and upward, so far. I also tried eBay and even the Fatty 1 is $160. USD, and again, the Fatty 2 is over $200.
Quite impressed. Now want to see if there are any bugs and kinks, strange things etc, which you never know about from a smaller brand and a smaller user base.
Where i can get model like this (clone of iPad mini) but with:
- Android 4.1 (+)
- quad core processor
- 2gb of ram
- 16gb of storage
- GPS integrated (so i can use offline navigation software like Sygic or Mireo)
- the same screen size 7,85" or 7,9"?
I loocked MSI Primo 81, Yuandoa Vido mini one and Cube U55gt - but this models have not GPS
Is there any good china tablet with my spec?
sylver said:
Where i can get model like this (clone of iPad mini) but with:
- Android 4.1 (+)
- quad core processor
- 2gb of ram
- 16gb of storage
- GPS integrated (so i can use offline navigation software like Sygic or Mireo)
- the same screen size 7,85" or 7,9"?
I loocked MSI Primo 81, Yuandoa Vido mini one and Cube U55gt - but this models have not GPS
Is there any good china tablet with my spec?
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Perhaps you should check the goopad android-sale.com
More specifically - http://android-sale.com/goopad-mini-3g.html
fortissimo said:
Yes, and more importantly, where to buy at $149. USD. The prices I have seen via Google search point to $200. USD and upward, so far. I also tried eBay and even the Fatty 1 is $160. USD, and again, the Fatty 2 is over $200.
Quite impressed. Now want to see if there are any bugs and kinks, strange things etc, which you never know about from a smaller brand and a smaller user base.
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The retail price in China is RMB899, which is like 149 USD. But the price may vary in different countries, in relation with the taxations and transportation costs.
Hello,
Nice review thanks I wanted to buy this tab and now that I've read your review I want to buy it even more. But I have a question where did you bought it please ? I've founded it on many sites but I don't know any reliable sites where to buy it. I would be very pleased if you could tell me where you bought it. Thanks
Ramir0u said:
Hello,
Nice review thanks I wanted to buy this tab and now that I've read your review I want to buy it even more. But I have a question where did you bought it please ? I've founded it on many sites but I don't know any reliable sites where to buy it. I would be very pleased if you could tell me where you bought it. Thanks
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I am Chinese, so i nought it on TAOBAO. I guess there are also a lot of online shop for oversea buyers.
jupiter2012 said:
This review took me weeks to finish, why doesn't anybody care to read it?
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
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With the Power button at the back of the tablet, is it very often that you turn off your screen accidentally?
Just bought one... hope wifi problems wont happen to mine by the way thanx for the review
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
darkest_lightning said:
Just bought one... hope wifi problems wont happen to mine by the way thanx for the review
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
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Does anyone know where can we update the firmware ?
I have seen some info that there is Android 4.2.2 for fatty2 but i can´t find the rom to download
In this link from their site says that fatty 2 has android 4.2.2 ...
www.aoicoo.com/en/ProShow.asp?id=40
but to download roms it goes to a chinese site:
http://soft.aoicoo.com/
Could someone from China please help cause i cant understand chinese ....
Regards,
butcher
The Chinese post office site finally says my tablet is send so i'm waiting for it now :laugh:
I did some google translate on the link you provided and came up with a download for the fatty 2 and the fatty 2 2gb version.
but it seems to me like the only language in the update is simplified chinese... hope it 's not
the home page with lots of firmware directions:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://soft.aoicoo.com/
the fatty 2 upgrade:
http://translate.googleusercontent....id=295&usg=ALkJrhjK0r_oqPfz-rvjutlU33jwZrd-yw
(downloading takes like forever, its half an hour now...)
hope this helps a bit.
let me know is if you update your firmware and have some other languages besides simplified chineese.
grtz
---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:15 PM ----------
just finished downloading the firmware and took a look inside the files with googletranslate.
looks like you can set it to English also.
readme file:
Fuzhou Rockchip Electronics Co., Ltd.
Unified production tools
User Instructions
2010-3-20
Document Revision History
The date of enactment Compiler version number / modify people modify the description Effective Date Remarks
1.0 2010-3-20 Cw edition
1.1 2010-10-12 LY increased error description
1.2 2011-06-28 LY configuration parameters to increase the data dial operation
1.3 2011-11-15 LY increased quickly check firmware mode
1.4 2012-03-02 LY increased common setup instructions
Directory
Overview 4
1 using the object 4
2 Component Overview 4
2.1 Tools directory structure 4
2.2 The configuration file used to set 4
2.2.1. Language Day 4
2.2.2. System section 5
2.2.3 Configuration 6 commonly used functions
3 Step 6 Use
3.1 modify the configuration file 6
3.2 Installing the Driver 7
3.3 firmware upgrade nine batches
3.3.1 Interface Introduction 9
3.3.2 Procedure 9
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained 9
4 Precautions 10
Outline
Unified production tools Rockchip Microelectronics Co., Ltd. is to improve customer productivity tools specifically developed . The tool is primarily used in factories in large quantities of the product firmware upgrade operation.
1 Using Objects
The need for large quantities of the product firmware upgrade factory.
2 Component Overview
2.1 Tools directory structure
config.ini
Tool configuration file that can be used to set the language and upgrade tools related properties , methods are detailed profile specific settings common settings .
Language
Language file storage directory , all currently supported language files are stored in this directory .
Log
Log storage directory , save the log normal upgrade process output and error information, log function can be modified in the configuration file to enable or disable items LOGFLAG recommended that you turn facilitate future error analysis.
RKBatchTool.exe
Production tools program
2.2 The configuration file used to set
Note: red for common setting items
2.2.1. Language Day
Kinds = 2 / / current number of tools to support all of the languages
Selected = 1 / / Specify the current tools used language
/ / Selected = 1 ( Chinese ); Selected = 2 ( English )
LangPath = Language \ / / language directory where the file
Lang1File = Chinese.ini / / Chinese language file
Lang1FontName = Arial / / Chinese language fonts
Lang1FontSize = 9 / / Chinese language font size
Lang1Tag = CHN / / Chinese language logo
Lang1CHNTitle = Chinese / / Chinese language selection Chinese display title
Lang1ENGTitle = Chinese / / English language selection Chinese display title
Lang2File = English.ini / / English language file
Lang2FontName = Arial / / English language fonts
Lang2FontSize = 9 / / English Language Font Size
Lang2Tag = ENG / / English language identification
Lang2CHNTitle = English / / Chinese language selection English Show Title
Lang2ENGTitle = English / / English Language selection English Show Title
2.2.2. System section
RKUSB_VID = 0x2207 / / RockUsb device VID, not set , venting can
RKUSB_PID = 0x290A / / RockUsb device PID,, do not set , venting can
MSC_VID = 0x0BB4 / / MSC device VID, not set , venting can
MSC_PID = 0x2910 / / MSC device PID, not set , venting can
FORCEFLAG = FALSE / / whether to adopt mandatory erasure, have not used
FORMATFLAG = TRUE / / if the user after the upgrade disc is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the user's root directory , set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
FORMATDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / if the data after the upgrade disk is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DATADISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the root directory of the data set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_DATADISK_COPYPATH = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
LOGFLAG = TRUE / / logging , set TRUE Enable logging , other values close the log function
SUPPORTLOWUSB = TRUE / / scan full speed usb device switch, set TRUE to scan Full speed usb device , other values are only scan high speed usb device
DEFAULT_FIRMWARE = / / default load firmware path , specify the default firmware path, the tool starts automatically when you open the default firmware
CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL = TRUE / / Firmware matching checking function ,
By setting CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL items, you can check before upgrading the firmware upgrade is allowed , permitted
Conditions to keep the value of the device firmware file MACHINE_MODEL parameter values match.
QUICK_CHECK_MODE = TRUE / / Quick check firmware switch is set to TRUE open the Quick checksum firmware functionality, but this feature is not complete parity there is a certain risk.
FW_VERSION_MODE = / / firmware version display format
DEC: Decimal display
Other: hexadecimal display
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = / / MISC partition to modify signs,
WIPE_ALL: erase userdata, cache and user area
WIPE_DATA: erase userdata and cache area
Other values are not modified by the original partition contents misc
MSC_WAITTIME = 30 / / Wait Msc device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
RKUSB_WAITTIME = 20 / / Wait RockUsb device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
2.2.3 configuration commonly used functions
Open Demo copy function:
Set FORMATFLAG = TRUE,
COPYFLAG = TRUE,
DISK_VOLUME = disk label
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = file or directory to be copied path
Android projects need to add a setting:
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = WIPE_DATA; prevent users after copying disk data recovery program to be erased
3 Use the procedure
modify the configuration file
Plug the device to be upgraded , if prompted to find new hardware , install the driver Rockusb
run the tool, select the firmware upgrade
3.1 modify the configuration file
Modify the configuration file , see the configuration file used to set
3.2 Installing the Driver
Before upgrading the firmware , turn off the player. Press and hold the upgrade button and simultaneously connect the device to a PC USB port. If you have not installed device drivers , it will pop up the following tips:
Select " Install from a list or specific location ( Advanced ) " and click Next.
Select the driver folder rockusb.sys
This completes installation of the USB device driver .
3.3 Batch firmware upgrade
3.3.1 Interface Introduction
3.3.2 Procedure
plug the device
Select the firmware
Verify that the device enters Rockusb state (Maskrom and Loader states belong Rock usb state )
upgrade or repair equipment
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained
" Failed to load configuration information can not be operated " because Config.ini file loading error , you can get from a publisher file to replace the correct Config.ini
" Failed to load firmware , you can not operate ! " No choice because the firmware or the firmware can not be read correctly lead , make sure that the firmware is correct
" other operations are running , please wait ! " As other operations currently in progress , please wait until the other end of the operation then
" device not found , unable to operate ! " Please confirm whether the device is connected, or whether Rockusb state
" creation process fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program before proceeding
" object create operation fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program , and then when the line operation
" does not support this type of equipment can not be operated ! " Please confirm whether the device into the Rock usb state , if the current state of the U disk , first switch before doing so
4 Precautions
batch upgrade multiple devices connected to the same HUB best on while upgrading equipment should not exceed four .
modify the configuration file , you need to re-run production tools
use of production tools , do not open other upgrades
production tools in the production process to the device automatically generates a UID unique code , the only code you need to ensure reliable, please use a computer equipped with a card production tools .
When Boot firmware version update , we recommend using the repair function to do the upgrade .
darkest_lightning said:
The Chinese post office site finally says my tablet is send so i'm waiting for it now :laugh:
I did some google translate on the link you provided and came up with a download for the fatty 2 and the fatty 2 2gb version.
but it seems to me like the only language in the update is simplified chinese... hope it 's not
the home page with lots of firmware directions:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://soft.aoicoo.com/
the fatty 2 upgrade:
http://translate.googleusercontent....id=295&usg=ALkJrhjK0r_oqPfz-rvjutlU33jwZrd-yw
(downloading takes like forever, its half an hour now...)
hope this helps a bit.
let me know is if you update your firmware and have some other languages besides simplified chineese.
grtz
---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:15 PM ----------
just finished downloading the firmware and took a look inside the files with googletranslate.
looks like you can set it to English also.
readme file:
Fuzhou Rockchip Electronics Co., Ltd.
Unified production tools
User Instructions
2010-3-20
Document Revision History
The date of enactment Compiler version number / modify people modify the description Effective Date Remarks
1.0 2010-3-20 Cw edition
1.1 2010-10-12 LY increased error description
1.2 2011-06-28 LY configuration parameters to increase the data dial operation
1.3 2011-11-15 LY increased quickly check firmware mode
1.4 2012-03-02 LY increased common setup instructions
Directory
Overview 4
1 using the object 4
2 Component Overview 4
2.1 Tools directory structure 4
2.2 The configuration file used to set 4
2.2.1. Language Day 4
2.2.2. System section 5
2.2.3 Configuration 6 commonly used functions
3 Step 6 Use
3.1 modify the configuration file 6
3.2 Installing the Driver 7
3.3 firmware upgrade nine batches
3.3.1 Interface Introduction 9
3.3.2 Procedure 9
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained 9
4 Precautions 10
Outline
Unified production tools Rockchip Microelectronics Co., Ltd. is to improve customer productivity tools specifically developed . The tool is primarily used in factories in large quantities of the product firmware upgrade operation.
1 Using Objects
The need for large quantities of the product firmware upgrade factory.
2 Component Overview
2.1 Tools directory structure
config.ini
Tool configuration file that can be used to set the language and upgrade tools related properties , methods are detailed profile specific settings common settings .
Language
Language file storage directory , all currently supported language files are stored in this directory .
Log
Log storage directory , save the log normal upgrade process output and error information, log function can be modified in the configuration file to enable or disable items LOGFLAG recommended that you turn facilitate future error analysis.
RKBatchTool.exe
Production tools program
2.2 The configuration file used to set
Note: red for common setting items
2.2.1. Language Day
Kinds = 2 / / current number of tools to support all of the languages
Selected = 1 / / Specify the current tools used language
/ / Selected = 1 ( Chinese ); Selected = 2 ( English )
LangPath = Language \ / / language directory where the file
Lang1File = Chinese.ini / / Chinese language file
Lang1FontName = Arial / / Chinese language fonts
Lang1FontSize = 9 / / Chinese language font size
Lang1Tag = CHN / / Chinese language logo
Lang1CHNTitle = Chinese / / Chinese language selection Chinese display title
Lang1ENGTitle = Chinese / / English language selection Chinese display title
Lang2File = English.ini / / English language file
Lang2FontName = Arial / / English language fonts
Lang2FontSize = 9 / / English Language Font Size
Lang2Tag = ENG / / English language identification
Lang2CHNTitle = English / / Chinese language selection English Show Title
Lang2ENGTitle = English / / English Language selection English Show Title
2.2.2. System section
RKUSB_VID = 0x2207 / / RockUsb device VID, not set , venting can
RKUSB_PID = 0x290A / / RockUsb device PID,, do not set , venting can
MSC_VID = 0x0BB4 / / MSC device VID, not set , venting can
MSC_PID = 0x2910 / / MSC device PID, not set , venting can
FORCEFLAG = FALSE / / whether to adopt mandatory erasure, have not used
FORMATFLAG = TRUE / / if the user after the upgrade disc is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the user's root directory , set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
FORMATDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / if the data after the upgrade disk is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DATADISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the root directory of the data set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_DATADISK_COPYPATH = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
LOGFLAG = TRUE / / logging , set TRUE Enable logging , other values close the log function
SUPPORTLOWUSB = TRUE / / scan full speed usb device switch, set TRUE to scan Full speed usb device , other values are only scan high speed usb device
DEFAULT_FIRMWARE = / / default load firmware path , specify the default firmware path, the tool starts automatically when you open the default firmware
CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL = TRUE / / Firmware matching checking function ,
By setting CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL items, you can check before upgrading the firmware upgrade is allowed , permitted
Conditions to keep the value of the device firmware file MACHINE_MODEL parameter values match.
QUICK_CHECK_MODE = TRUE / / Quick check firmware switch is set to TRUE open the Quick checksum firmware functionality, but this feature is not complete parity there is a certain risk.
FW_VERSION_MODE = / / firmware version display format
DEC: Decimal display
Other: hexadecimal display
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = / / MISC partition to modify signs,
WIPE_ALL: erase userdata, cache and user area
WIPE_DATA: erase userdata and cache area
Other values are not modified by the original partition contents misc
MSC_WAITTIME = 30 / / Wait Msc device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
RKUSB_WAITTIME = 20 / / Wait RockUsb device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
2.2.3 configuration commonly used functions
Open Demo copy function:
Set FORMATFLAG = TRUE,
COPYFLAG = TRUE,
DISK_VOLUME = disk label
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = file or directory to be copied path
Android projects need to add a setting:
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = WIPE_DATA; prevent users after copying disk data recovery program to be erased
3 Use the procedure
modify the configuration file
Plug the device to be upgraded , if prompted to find new hardware , install the driver Rockusb
run the tool, select the firmware upgrade
3.1 modify the configuration file
Modify the configuration file , see the configuration file used to set
3.2 Installing the Driver
Before upgrading the firmware , turn off the player. Press and hold the upgrade button and simultaneously connect the device to a PC USB port. If you have not installed device drivers , it will pop up the following tips:
Select " Install from a list or specific location ( Advanced ) " and click Next.
Select the driver folder rockusb.sys
This completes installation of the USB device driver .
3.3 Batch firmware upgrade
3.3.1 Interface Introduction
3.3.2 Procedure
plug the device
Select the firmware
Verify that the device enters Rockusb state (Maskrom and Loader states belong Rock usb state )
upgrade or repair equipment
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained
" Failed to load configuration information can not be operated " because Config.ini file loading error , you can get from a publisher file to replace the correct Config.ini
" Failed to load firmware , you can not operate ! " No choice because the firmware or the firmware can not be read correctly lead , make sure that the firmware is correct
" other operations are running , please wait ! " As other operations currently in progress , please wait until the other end of the operation then
" device not found , unable to operate ! " Please confirm whether the device is connected, or whether Rockusb state
" creation process fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program before proceeding
" object create operation fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program , and then when the line operation
" does not support this type of equipment can not be operated ! " Please confirm whether the device into the Rock usb state , if the current state of the U disk , first switch before doing so
4 Precautions
batch upgrade multiple devices connected to the same HUB best on while upgrading equipment should not exceed four .
modify the configuration file , you need to re-run production tools
use of production tools , do not open other upgrades
production tools in the production process to the device automatically generates a UID unique code , the only code you need to ensure reliable, please use a computer equipped with a card production tools .
When Boot firmware version update , we recommend using the repair function to do the upgrade .
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Hello darkest_lightning
Thanks for your awnser.
But one problem still resides. where is the Android 4.2.2 because the firmware version of Fatty 2 and Fatty 2 2G are of Android 4.1.1 ...
Maybe it´s bull**** of them in the english site that the fatty 2 can have Android 4.2.2
But many thanks for your post
Regards butcher
Got my fatty yesterday... must say i'm pretty pleased with it. It's fast, wifi s good, comes in english, nice screen and fully charged i used it for 3-4h and still has 65% battery left. There are some chinese apps and market on but you can hide them so they wont bother. Didnt do the firmware update yet but everything seems working well for now
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
Article too long, I only saw a few pictures.
darkest_lightning said:
Got my fatty yesterday... must say i'm pretty pleased with it. It's fast, wifi s good, comes in english, nice screen and fully charged i used it for 3-4h and still has 65% battery left. There are some chinese apps and market on but you can hide them so they wont bother. Didnt do the firmware update yet but everything seems working well for now
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
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darkest_lightning it comes with 4.1 ? or 4.2 ?
Regards,
Butcher
the_butcher said:
darkest_lightning it comes with 4.1 ? or 4.2 ?
Regards,
Butcher
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Hi,
Butcher looks like it's 4.2.2
Grtz
darkest_lightning said:
Hi,
Butcher looks like it's 4.2.2
Grtz
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Hi darkest_lightning
Well i think they let out the firmware of 4.2.2 because i downloaded this firmware from soft.aoicoo.com:
I installed one of this LOL don´t know witch one ...
2013-10-11 › [F 系列升级固件]Fatty2 多视窗软件363
2013-10-11 › [F 系列升级固件]Fatty2 多视窗软件362
and it is Android 4.2.2
Very nice by ICOO released the new firmware and it looks like 4.1.1 because surfing the net is smooth like hell
Regards,
Butcher