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I have just finished a quick lite rom based on Helmi_ C AKU 0.70 rom which I find very stable even for a beta.
Everything Remains the Same apart from what I took out the rom which as follows:
1. Htc audio manager
2. HTC HOME Plugin
3. Office Mobile
4. OneNote Mobile
5. BT_FTP=1_2_30490_1
6. JbedJava_MIDP=0_0_20070726_1_1
7. HTC task manager
8. Voice Speed dial
9. WindowsLive
Rom is working fast with only one bug which i'm trying to fix which is:
After Flashing the rom and after configuration and reset the rom wont boot. But if you reset it before CONFIGURATION the rom works ok as normal. very strange.
I will try to fix it but I have got all the configuration cabs which can be install manual. These files are:
1. Configure_COMgr175.CAB
2. Configure_DDI171.CAB
3. Configure_GPS.CAB
4. Configure_Key.CAB
5. Configure_WLAN.CAB
6. WiFicountrycode.CAB
Total storage memory is 133.16 mb and free program is 74.15 mb
Cabs can be found in my thread which is located here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438
Link>>> Rom has got more work to do will fix it as soon I got some more time.
Still a problem with configuration just soft rest before config starts.
Install config cabs below, enjoy
Thanks to POF and OLIPRO for all there hard work and tadzio with contributing in helping us with customising his tools so they can work for kaisers. And thanks to everyone who was helping with the kaiser project.
I will be making or modyfing roms as lite as possible which I think is the best way to go as programs gets updated regular.
reservation
Reservation for updates
cant wait for this lite rom! please dont forget to take out extra junk like windows update and windows live messenger. The more lite the better
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Coming Soon
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Why do you do thisto us?
I hope soon means very soon soon
The rom is working fine just need to reset befor it starts its configuration. I will post it as soon as I can. If I find the fix I will post the fixed rom with more stuff taken out the rom.
link is up
link is up
Still a bug with config but cabs are available for now
Awesome, this is the lite ROM I was looking for! Will try it out asap.
cheers
maryjos said:
Awesome, this is the lite ROM I was looking for! Will try it out asap.
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helmi_c done a great job with the rom I didnt have to do nothing with it might strip it down further for who love ultr lite roms but not losing any stability of course
There is more work to be done on this rom
I realise there is more work to be done on this ROM. First I forgot and allowed the configuration to go on. So I had to reflash (forgot HR would do) and prevent installation of the configuration. I then installed the cabs posted, but device refused to boot after soft-reset
So I am back on Helmi's ROM.
Dutty, you must have removed the power icon in settings as I could not find it to see how much longer I could go on trying to revive my device without running out of power
victoradjei said:
I realise there is more work to be done on this ROM. First I forgot and allowed the configuration to go on. So I had to reflash (forgot HR would do) and prevent installation of the configuration. I then installed the cabs posted, but device refused to boot after soft-reset
So I am back on Helmi's ROM.
Dutty, you must have removed the power icon in settings as I could not find it to see how much longer I could go on trying to revive my device without running out of power
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same here I must have deleted something in the rom I also found huge battery drain my highly suspicions are one of the activation cabs is causing this.
Sorry guys my first rom didnt made it as yet will pull it down as i think its not stable.
Cheers
My apologies
I have taken down the rom found a huge battery drain in rom.
Well, I installed it and everything went okay. Installed the extra cabs and looked good. I wanted to try WisBar instead of the start menu app I'd been using before so installed their latest versions. Whoops that made a total mess of things, locked up at the end of install and still was locking up after soft resets. So had to hard reset and start all over again. I've not used this app before, so not sure if it was the ROM causing the problem or not.
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I have taken down the rom found a huge battery drain in rom.
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Ah, okay, yeah I've continued to have problems with it, keeps locking up on me when doing a soft reset. So guess it wasn't wisbar that was the problem. I'll go back to the standard HTC Rom for now.
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Can you please close this thread as lite rom has been made by helmi so thus all support should be in that forum. thanks
I am new to the WM platform, and have been flashing my Tilt like crazy. I am trying to decide if it is better to go with a minimal ROM and install the addon's via CABS that I want, or if it is better to get a ROM like DUTTY's that has 98% of what I use already installed.
Coming from the Palm world, there were advantages of moving apps into the ROM as it would free the space for storage. A typical application install would use the storage space for both application and data.
Is this true with Kaiser/Tilt and WM? Is the 256Mb of ROM used only by applications that are either 'flashed' or loaded via the ExtendedRom Unlock and 128Mb of RAM used by cab file installs, and other installations?
Finally, when installing an application on the MicroSD card, does it first have to copy to the phones ram and then run, or is the memory directly accessed?
Thanks!
I like em lite
If you are going to use all the HTC software in Dutty's then I say to load his ROM. They are very good. I'm a fan of a lite ROM and use XDA-live since I choose to not use any HTC software.
ROM Goes Unused?
So does the extra space of your ROM go unused by any applications? Say you install a lite, + quick menu, PocketCM, and a few other goodies that are included in a fuller ROM..is that now taking up space where you would put ringtones, themes, data files, etc. in your RAM.
I guess my question is more like this:
Is the ROM/RAM issue similar to palm, or can I think of the ROM as a PC hard drive, and the RAM just that..used by what is running only.
I don't believe the ROM is just a like a pc hard drive since I have to flash to get stuff in there, but I wasn't sure if that was just certain portions of the ROM where the OS lives.
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I don't believe the ROM is just a like a pc hard drive since I have to flash to get stuff in there, but I wasn't sure if that was just certain portions of the ROM where the OS lives.
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You can say that ROM is like PC's hard drive. A space of this ROM is reserved from the OS and the rest is free for the user.
When you flash with a lite ROM the space reserved for the OS is smaller and the opposite when you flash with a full version.
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You can say that ROM is like PC's hard drive. A space of this ROM is reserved from the OS and the rest is free for the user.
When you flash with a lite ROM the space reserved for the OS is smaller and the opposite when you flash with a full version.
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So I assume that when looking at the memory tool, this unreserved portion of this ROM is listed as "Storage" and the Memory/RAM is listed as "Program"
This clears it up for me.
Thank You!!
As a tentative newcomer to the world of flashing ROMs, I've searched the forums but not found clarification on the following:
If I was to flash a cooked ROM onto a Windows Mobile device (say a Touch HD on the UK T-Mobile network), would the phone still have access to the settings/configuration it needs in order to access the T-Mobile network for data, SMS, etc without any further work or reconfiguration required on my part?
If so, where are those settings held such that they are unaffected by flashing?
If not, would I need to locate and back up the necessary settings prior to flashing? How is this generally done to ensure that no settings are missed?
Thanks in advance to those taking the time to reply.
most new roms have the major networks info built in.. so it should set your network up automatically both for SMS and phone usage.. about data connections.. I don't think it would be set up automatically unless the rom is already setup for a specific network.
Everything is affected by flashing. all your data and configuration will be erased thus you will have to setup the data connection again.
you can backup your data prior to flashing
you can find a backing up guide in my signature under the GUIDES thread
I see - thanks. I've noticed a few mentions of ExtROM - is this the part of the ROM where such settings are stored?
Also, when using a device such as the Touch HD which (unless I am mistaken) has no onboard storage, when a user installs a new program onto the device, where are the new files (DLLs etc) actually installed to? And where is the registry held so that it can be updated during installation (or when editing manually)?
If I understand correctly, the installed ROM cannot be changed unless you replace it completely by flashing. So if the ROM contains the operating system (including the registry) then how is it possible to edit this?
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I see - thanks. I've noticed a few mentions of ExtROM - is this the part of the ROM where such settings are stored?
Also, when using a device such as the Touch HD which (unless I am mistaken) has no onboard storage, when a user installs a new program onto the device, where are the new files (DLLs etc) actually installed to? And where is the registry held so that it can be updated during installation (or when editing manually)?
If I understand correctly, the installed ROM cannot be changed unless you replace it completely by flashing. So if the ROM contains the operating system (including the registry) then how is it possible to edit this?
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The Touch HD actually has 512 MB of ROM memory (on-board memory)...
As far as the ExtRom, this is a part of memory that most device carriers use to put their "junk" in. These are normally either hidden, or otherwise not accessible by normal means. Anyways, the settings (as nir36 pointed out) are in the ROM itself, so whether you have an Extrom or not is irrelevant as far as network settings.
Just to put it in simple terms, flashing a device means completely wiping out everything you have in there... kinda like formatting a hard-drive. The only thing that is left is the bootloader, which is not located in the rom memory, so this doesn't get wiped out with an OS flash.
Lastly, the registry is part of the OS. Therefore, when you wipe out your OS by flashing, the registry goes bye bye as well...
Hope this helps some...
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The Touch HD actually has 512 MB of ROM memory (on-board memory)...
As far as the ExtRom, this is a part of memory that most device carriers use to put their "junk" in. These are normally either hidden, or otherwise not accessible by normal means. Anyways, the settings (as nir36 pointed out) are in the ROM itself, so whether you have an Extrom or not is irrelevant as far as network settings.
Just to put it in simple terms, flashing a device means completely wiping out everything you have in there... kinda like formatting a hard-drive. The only thing that is left is the bootloader, which is not located in the rom memory, so this doesn't get wiped out with an OS flash.
Lastly, the registry is part of the OS. Therefore, when you wipe out your OS by flashing, the registry goes bye bye as well...
Hope this helps some...
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Thanks for this reply
I understand that the ROM is on-board memory and that a flash replaces all of it, including the OS.
What I don't understand is how registry edit tools (e.g. Resco) work. Since the registry is part of the OS and resides in the ROM, how can the registry be edited, i.e. written to, so that the changes are still there even when the phone is turned off and back on?
(I am presuming that the registry editing tools don't do any kind of flash operation.)
ok, first of all, registry settings are not saved on the ROM but on the internal storage.
the ROM files CAN be replaced but only "apparently" not "really".. that is, when you flash a rom, the files from the rom will stay on the device whether you replace them or not.. but if you copy over them, the device will read from the new files WHILE still keeping the other rom files (since they can not be deleted).
the touch HD has 512megs of ROM memory and 256megs of RAM memory..
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ok, first of all, registry settings are not saved on the ROM but on the internal storage.
the ROM files CAN be replaced but only "apparently" not "really".. that is, when you flash a rom, the files from the rom will stay on the device whether you replace them or not.. but if you copy over them, the device will read from the new files WHILE still keeping the other rom files (since they can not be deleted).
the touch HD has 512megs of ROM memory and 256megs of RAM memory..
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Alright I'm getting closer to fully understanding! Here's a couple of statements and follow-up questions, please correct me where I'm wrong.
Statement:
So when copying over a file that is in the ROM, the original file remains in the ROM but the system somehow knows to read from the replacement file, which is held elsewhere on the device.
Question:
How does it know when a ROM file has been replaced, and where to look for the replacement file?
Statement:
If the replacement file is installed to the device, but cannot itself be in the ROM, then presumably it must be in the RAM. If so, then I would expect that turning the phone off or removing the battery would clear the RAM, causing the replacement file to be lost, effectively resetting the changes.
Question:
Is this the case or is there some internal battery which keeps the RAM alive, and only an explicit hard reset can clear the RAM?
Please can anyone help with my follow up questions?
Thanks
1. yeah.. it stays.. dunno how the reading is done tho
2. when a rom is replaced all those files which you replaced are erased. flashing a rom is like performing a format, nothing is kept and the OS is reinstalled.
3. flash memory is not like computer ram.. it uses capacitors to reserve data.. and it takes years before it is erased
Ah so it's Flash memory, right!
So the internal Flash memory is used both as a RAM workspace and for storage space for stuff installed to the device...apps etc.
Thanks Nir!
Hi Guys,
I am in a serious fix ! I downloaded WM 6.5 ROM from this site about 3 months ago & installed it on my HTC Touch Pro. It worked like a charm...until this Morning. It now says " This concludes the beta test of this software release." etc....I can't connect to my phone via USB(activesync), thus I can't reload any Software onto it. I tried to Hard Reset...but the phone just restarts & goes back to this message...Is there any way of getting a ROM installed on this phone ? Any help will be greatly appreciated !
Thanks~
do you have an sd card if so have you tryed that method ?
Haha, no i don't have an SD card, but i solved my problem. I went to bootlog.. somehow XD. I tried many different methods, but i eventually found one that worked. Then i just Installed a new ROM. Problem solved ^^.
same problem here - would be nice if developers mention that their software expires
will now try to flash new rom too
I have the same issue - I have an Acer neotouch and is now bricked due to expiration of windows. How do I flash another rom or re-load factoy rom? I cannot get my phone to connect to my PC.
same problem!
I have the same problem, this night @ 00:00 it expired.
I have very valuable text files in my phone memory, really sucks.
I really need this back for my job.. Has anyone an idea of recovering the data without flashing a new rom?
And if i flash a new rom, i suppose all data @ phone memory will be lost?
Greatings Bouke
I also have this problem. It seems pretty widespread
That's because it's May 1st everywhere, lol.
This is why you didn't want to flash (or cook) a rom with the beta version of Office 2010. Now, there's a non-time-bombed version available, and you'll need to upgrade to it. A savvy flasher will also always advance the date on a build by a few years immediately after flashing, just to see if there is a time-bomb built in. There's no one to blame but yourself if you didn't do it.
Thats great Farmer Ted and very smug of you...however we may not all be as experienced as you and are looking for a way to resolve this issue.
ROM expired
Can we please get the steps to over come this error.
Please.....Please.....Please....
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Thats great Farmer Ted and very smug of you...however we may not all be as experienced as you and are looking for a way to resolve this issue.
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Don't get mad at me. The moment you decide to flash a custom rom to your phone, you have to take responsibility for anything and everything that happens to it. Custom roms don't come with warranties. This isn't the first time that raphael roms have expired due to time-bombs. Almost all of Monx's roms went kaplooey over a year ago. Everyone knew that office mobile 2010 was beta (and if you didn't, it's your fault). It says so right on the download on windows marketplace, and it says it would expire in the spring of 2010. A month ago, many users received messages that their roms would expire in 30 days, and there were threads about it all over the place. It shouldn't be a surprise that the early rom builds that came out with it had a hard expiration date. The problem is that the time-bomb in the early builds was in the Office package, which no one knows how to remove, whereas in the more recent builds the time-bomb is in shell, which is easily patched.
Solution that worked:
Step 1. Turn Off your phone
Step 2. Turn on keeping the Power On button + Low Volume Key pressed untill you see a tricolor display showing current ROM details
Step 3. Connect the phone to PC using USB and flash using any ROM of your choice
Note: This will erase all the data on the phone.
Anyone found a way to backup the data on the phone?
It will run some programs (Sense, some services, some apps accessible via Sense - all accessible for short times by locking, then unlocking the phone) but not connect with Activesync.
Autostart from SD does not seem to work (don't have a known working app to compare)
All I'm missing now is a way to access the internal storage.
Any ideas?
can u still add app shortcuts to sense?
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Anyone found a way to backup the data on the phone?
It will run some programs (Sense, some services, some apps accessible via Sense - all accessible for short times by locking, then unlocking the phone) but not connect with Activesync.
Autostart from SD does not seem to work (don't have a known working app to compare)
All I'm missing now is a way to access the internal storage.
Any ideas?
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can u still add apps to sense??? add them and see if they run.....if so add total commander and pim backup and try to copy every thing to sd
dcsmaniatico said:
can u still add apps to sense??? add them and see if they run.....if so add total commander and pim backup and try to copy every thing to sd
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yes but that's no use.
unfortunately nothing from the start menu or sense home links will work.
just some that are started directly from sense, but not cookie editor for example.
Winmo 6.5 Rom
Can anyone tell me how to get the download to upgrade my 6.1 to 6.5 on my touch pro. Thanks
WM 6.5 ROM expired
Hi Everybody,
I succeeded to flash my Samsung Omnia keeping my data under /My Storage. But all the other data lost. Here is what I have done:
1. Hard Reset: date will be set back to 20080101 (data under My Documents will be lost)
2. Flash new ROM using Samsung Modem Driver. I suggest to use ROMs from pdafanclub.com
3. I tried to restore my data/settings using Spb Backup, but many applications did not worked because of the new ROM, and my device froze continuously.
Good luck!
Hi,
I've got a Touch Cruise that I've flashed several times three days ago.
First I've done the hardSPL flash, CID unlock and SIM unlock.
After this I've flashed with a 6.1 rom (M-Amine 2.0) but I was seaking for a more "finger-friendly" UI so I've tried Kostas's C2 rom.
It's after flashing with Kostas's C2 rom that the problem first appeared. After a hour I could'nt launch any software. As File Explorer was already executing, I tried to launch exe files directly, but there were no more files in phone storage memory.
I softreset the device and it failed to boot (everlasting windows starting logo).
I've hardreseted the device and it booted successfully.
So I flashed the device with pcarvalho eXtreme :
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [23557] (non3D) [16-Apr] (fixed)
It flash well, run for two or three hours and I noticied that my ringtones mysteriously changed to the default one. Using the File Explorer I checked the content of storage memory and it was all corrupted. Missing folders, files with non-alphanumeric names in root folder...
After a hard-reset my phone works well.
Things I've done after each installation : Contact+sms restore using PPCPimBackup, TomTom installation (7.918.xxx)
My Rom :
OS Version : 5.2.23557
Radio Version : 1.59.46.12
Anybody knows where can it come from ?
Thanks
Boudin said:
Hi,
I've got a Touch Cruise that I've flashed several times three days ago.
First I've done the hardSPL flash, CID unlock and SIM unlock.
After this I've flashed with a 6.1 rom (M-Amine 2.0) but I was seaking for a more "finger-friendly" UI so I've tried Kostas's C2 rom.
It's after flashing with Kostas's C2 rom that the problem first appeared. After a hour I could'nt launch any software. As File Explorer was already executing, I tried to launch exe files directly, but there were no more files in phone storage memory.
I softreset the device and it failed to boot (everlasting windows starting logo).
I've hardreseted the device and it booted successfully.
So I flashed the device with pcarvalho eXtreme :
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [23557] (non3D) [16-Apr] (fixed)
It flash well, run for two or three hours and I noticied that my ringtones mysteriously changed to the default one. Using the File Explorer I checked the content of storage memory and it was all corrupted. Missing folders, files with non-alphanumeric names in root folder...
After a hard-reset my phone works well.
Things I've done after each installation : Contact+sms restore using PPCPimBackup, TomTom installation (7.918.xxx)
My Rom :
OS Version : 5.2.23557
Radio Version : 1.59.46.12
Anybody knows where can it come from ?
Thanks
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it can be a many number of things...but you can start by check the card first...every time you go from one rom to another check it and save things (important ones)
now you can only try to get things back with getdataback (always worked with me)...
cheers
Thanks for the answer. It's not my storage card that lose data but phones internal storage memory.
It happened again just now, while installing a cab file.
I've got the impression that it's linked to cab installer since the other times I have installed a CAB to (tomtom) but it could be the fact that cab installer is writing data on defective memory.
Is there a way to test the internal storage memory in order to check if the problem is hardware ?
Finally it happened again, without cab install, without any manipulation after the hard reset.
I switched back to M-Amine 2.0 (WM 6.1) and it seems to have resolved the problem.
It's like the file system driver used in windows mobile 6.5 don't works well with my phone, wich can explain the file renaming, file disappearance, directory loss etc...
I would like to have a solution to switch back to WM 6.5 and a more recent version of HTC applications, so if anybody have any idea where can it come from...
Sorry to post three messages in a row, but there may be a thing I misunderstood.
In Pcarvalho rom thread I've seen this :
There seem to be HR and MC losing data issues with some roms, so i recommend flashing a htc original rom and only then this one, before proceeding as always make a backup of all data before attempting to use this rom...
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But I don't know what HR and MC stands for here.... Is this concerning only the Storage Card or phone's Internal memory can also be problematic ?
I may have to flash back to an official rom before try again a WM 6.5 rom.
The problem have disappeared since I'm back to a WM 6.1 rom
Boudin said:
Sorry to post three messages in a row, but there may be a thing I misunderstood.
In Pcarvalho rom thread I've seen this :
But I don't know what HR and MC stands for here.... Is this concerning only the Storage Card or phone's Internal memory can also be problematic ?
I may have to flash back to an official rom before try again a WM 6.5 rom.
The problem have disappeared since I'm back to a WM 6.1 rom
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i've been trying with android while waiting for pcarvalho next release. i am using task29 and radio.nbh to clean up the rom. what i noticed is that ( and i believe) task29 does not really clean the ROM, because after flashing many times android ( and i always use Task29, then flash android rom) the problem that i have ( lock SD card and its r/o status) did not disappear. i've been switching from rom to rom to rom (different build) , trying to elimante the problem. at last i flash back pcarvalho's rom back, than task29, than back to android. the problem solve. i donno may be because task29 only perform quick format instead of full format. the problem stays. i think ( maybe i am wrong) the bigger the size of the rom file is better as it rewrite the whole rom instead of small section of rom.
i guess...
It's surely something like this, i've just flashed with an official rom and flashed with pcarvalho's one and this time it works like a charm. (by the way, thanks to all cookers for their works).
So the problem is resolved, I had misunderstood the problem of data loss as it does not affect only the storage card data but also phone's internal storage memory.
Thanks to all.