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Does anyone know what are video optimal encoding settings for Vox. I was using nokia n73 before vox and I thought they had same speed processors but mp4 files which had h264 video codec are played jirkey on Vox. I am using coreplayer. Does anyone know how much FPS with how much bitrate is optimal for Vox. On N73 I was ripping in H264 video codec, level 1.1 profile, FPS converted to 15, bitrate from 325 to 382kbps. With AAC-LC 96kbps.
When this file is played on vox playback is not smooth.
Anyone optimized settings.?
Well, what player did you use?
I tried to play it on TCPMP but it was not supported so I palyed it on CorePlayer. H264 playback was jerky but xvid was working fine.
In symbian that is N73 there was whole topic of video converstion guide that which bitrate is best at which codec. I think no here has done any such thing. Do you have any idea how to check what Vox processor can support? How to check other than hit and trial.
CorePlay should have a utility that can benchmark and you can calculate out of those numbers what playback settings should be the best.
I would use XViD, since you're encoding them yourself. Move the audio off of AAC as well, use MP3. MP4 and H264 are heavy containers and will require more processing. Vox has a iddy biddy TI OMAP850 @ 201MHz proc that barely cuts it.
h4waii said:
CorePlay should have a utility that can benchmark and you can calculate out of those numbers what playback settings should be the best.
I would use XViD, since you're encoding them yourself. Move the audio off of AAC as well, use MP3. MP4 and H264 are heavy containers and will require more processing. Vox has a iddy biddy TI OMAP850 @ 201MHz proc that barely cuts it.
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Well, yes AVC codecs require much more porcessing power that ASP. Any idea about Xvid or Divx compatible encoding settings.??
Ok. I am settled with 25 FPS, Xvid, with 400kbps and mp3 41khz with 128kpbs. I still get 127% on benchmarking but i think these are good setting for smooth playback and good quality video.
Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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How about uploading one of the shorter videos for the rest to test and see who can play it most smoothly?
amv7 said:
Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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I am using DirectDraw. It works well. No problems here.
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How about uploading one of the shorter videos for the rest to test and see who can play it most smoothly?
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Here's an example:
(new 007 trailer)
http://rs26l33.rapidshare.com/files/134288468/Agent007.2008.epidem.ru.rar
I also have many 700 mbs DVD rips which are way too slow on the x7510. It seems to me that we have a great piece of hardware, but we don't have the appropriate software
Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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I have some flv files downloaded from youtube, but mainly videos of concerts recorded on my home computer from sat tv in wmv
One of those is about 30 minutes of Jewel concert:
Audio codec DMO WMA 44100hz 2 chanels/96kbit/s
Video codec DMO WMV (WMV9) 384 x 288, 1,15 Mb/s.
I think I've rocoded it for my mobile, but do not remember.
I just converted Superman Returns using Pocket DVD at the following settings:
IMAGE
Width: 464 pixels
Height: 288 pixels
AUDIO
Duration: 2:34:05
Bit Rate: 40 kbps
Audio Format: MPEG Layer-3
VIDEO
Frame Rate: 24 frames/second
Data Rate: 605 kbps
Video Sample Size: 24 bit
Video Compression: XVID
The only settings I changed from Core Player are:
1. Menu>Tools>Preferences>Video>Video Output>Direct Draw
2. Menu>Tools>Preferences>ATI IMAGEON>check Keep ATI Driver Active
3. Menu>Tools>Preferences>Buffering>Normal Buffer Size 700000
I also tried watching some You Tube Videos, randomly. No problems at all, except some anime looked crappy probably because they were not meant to be seen at such a big screen compared to other PPC.
I don't have any problems playing my converted DVDs. NO SKIPS, NO LAGS, NO DELAYED VOICE OR SOUND which I often see others complaining about. From my point of view, it is a matter of what converter and settings you used and what settings you have Core Player on.
So am I happy? HELL YEAH!!!!! It's better than watching using my Universal.
I don't know about the missing drivers that I often read others are asking. If Core Player can play my converted DVDs as good as my Universal, I don't see any problem with that. As I said, check your settings.
Nope still lags audio lag for me tried your settings...What version of coreplayer are you using? Did you use headphones when you played the video?
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Here's an example:
(new 007 trailer)
http://rs26l33.rapidshare.com/files/134288468/Agent007.2008.epidem.ru.rar
I also have many 700 mbs DVD rips which are way too slow on the x7510. It seems to me that we have a great piece of hardware, but we don't have the appropriate software
Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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I just tried that video, when using core player 1.2.5 it almost runs fine, just that I don't have the ac3 audio codec. I also noticed a little tearing during scene change (fullscreen only).
My core player settings are:
Video output: DirectDraw
Video quality:High
Smooth Zoom: on
Dither: selected
Acceleration:not selected
DirectDraw settings:
overlay with colorkey:unselected
use blitting instead of overlay:selected
use device stretching for blitting: unselected (however I find that when I select this option with the one above I notice the tearing seems to go away but the video quality seems to go down a little)
I also increased buffersize:
normal buffer size:3392
preload at:70%
preload audio:64
Microdrive mode: selected
microdrive buffer size:56000
microdrive starts:1472
and thats what I have for coreplayer. Hopes this helps.
I'm going to try this vid in TCPMP and see how it handles it (I tend to get better video performance with TCPMP)
Another note, I have a x7501, however they're basically the same hardware.
I am using 1.2.5 version of Core Player.
I'm also using Coreplayer 1.25. Unfortunately I do not have the AC-3 codec. In any case, with rawframe buffer and set to highest video quality output, the picture is sensationally clear and fluid. I get 96.65% speed. Absolutely stunning and beautiful playback.
What audio plugin do you guys use for this video?
no problem playing videos properly coded for 640x480 sizes at max resolution, sound, etc
using TCPMP or CorePlayer, they both plays great!
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no problem playing videos properly coded for 640x480 sizes at max resolution, sound, etc
using TCPMP or CorePlayer, they both plays great!
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But on which device, x7510? You mean you were able to install TCPMP on X7510?
Then which version? And could you provide your installer?
lennie answered that already
see your other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=378040
best video
I have a x7501 no matter how I set it the video display is not smooth. I lovegbe big screen but when I made a video comparison with iPhone 3g, x7501 is worlds apart. iPhone 3g is so sharp and bright. I think it's a OS issue
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lennie answered that already
see your other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=378040
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Yes, and I commented that also. This version is no solution for me. It is not only to install the app, but to be able to play my videos as well.
This version gives me good audio and scrambled video, so no joy.
I have already CorePlayer and am happy with it, but just was curious.
hi
any news ?.....ways to improve?
I was looking for the best performance for CorePlayer on my 7510 and this configuration is best for me:
video:
selected driver - ATI Imageon (acceleration turned "off"!). Don't choose "DirectDraw", "Raw FrameBuffer" or "GDI" on HTC 7510 - they are slowest than Imageon without acceleration!
dithering - "on". halftones - "on". quality - "best"
Buffer: video output buffer set to: 4200 kb
Hi,
I've been searching what settings to rip my videos to play in TP.
Can anyone suggest some optimum settings? frame rates etc?
Cheers
joymike123
depensd on your app, but 640x480 (or a tad smaller for widescreen, 640x360 i think) is fine. 25fps. file should be around 700mb
Mine managed to play a 900mb rip of a movie at slightly higher than VGA the other day at 150% benchmark.
I am so pleased that I finally have a deice where I can just drag videos onto the memory card without having to convert
I can play VGA video @700MB only 75% of benchmark. Why???
not converting @ all.... just watching the normal video wich i download for my pc..
I tried playing bigger files to start with but the playback wasn't smooth so I tried some different conversions using Aimersoft Video Converter and came up with these settings...
Video
Resolution: 320*240
Frame Rate: 30 fps
Encoder: H.264
Bit Rate: 768 kbps
Audio
Sample Rate: 44100 Hz
Channel: Stereo
Encoder: AAC
Bit Rate kbps
What player are you guys using?
im using coreplayer. settings are similar (using clonedvdmobile)
only differences:
640x480 (or widescreen 640x360)
25fps
1012kbps
Could anybody test video performance with this file?
http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi
I own asus p750 (considering touch pro) and with core player 1.2.5. I get around 110%.
I find that if I run windows media player first, leave it running in the background and then run coreplayer, the videos run alot smoother...
But if you are looking at downloading and then playing videos directly off the unit plugged in to the tv, then this unit is not for you... If you use medium quality QTV when watching them on the unit... it's fine...
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Could anybody test video performance with this file?
http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi
I own asus p750 (considering touch pro) and with core player 1.2.5. I get around 110%.
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around 80%
I got 94.5%.
Have you tried setting video quality to medium in Coreplayer? I now have:
Video Output : QTv Display
Video Quality : Medium
And I got 160% using the video above. Still seemed to be pretty high quality to me! Will use that from now on I think.
Steve
Obviously it would be nice to play at full quality though... Just had a look at the corecodec forums and apparently an update is going to be released soon that improves performance on the diamond, so hopefully this will help us too!?!?
Thanks for your replies.
I used this settings:
Video Output : Intel XScale
Video Quality : High
Can not believe that old intel pxa270 scores better. Btw my p750 have ARMv5TE, and touch pro has new ARMv6 processor, so i hope that bad result is reflection of unoptimized software.
I hope that it will be sorted with new core player.
125.5%
Bench framerate 30.12fps
I'm on the stock 405 ROM
Coreplayer v1.2.2 settings:
RawFramebuffer
Quality - High
Smoothzoom - only for 50%
does any one know how i play video files on x7510,i tryed wmv and mp4 avi they dont work
play these files with coreplayer,nd if there is a sound lag u r observing,then goto coreplayer-preferences-advanced-down in the list there is an option for +/- av offset,set it to -600,also like done with advanced setting,once again goto preferances-video,try to change the video drivers from default ati imageon to other given such as raw frame buffer,gdi etc....enjoy
Use Xilisoft 3GP Video Converter (ver. 5.1.22.0305 or higher) and convert video with profile "BlackBerry MPEG-4 Video (*.mp4)" - set resolution to 320x240 or 352x264 (in "Profile Settings"). It may be appropriate and another converter with BlackBerry mp4 support and with resolution 320x240 or 352x264. This will give the best results for playback of video in standard Windows Media Player in HTC Advantage (I think it use hardware acceleration). Better than CorePlayer or TCPMP!!! Recommended for all! Complete synchronization of video and audio, smooth and excellent quality without lags.
were do i get corplayer or blackberry converter from
http://www.xilisoft.com/3gp-video-converter.html
For example, I was convert the "Matrix" advertising to format for the our WMP (BlackBery, 352x264, 1500 kbps, 24 fps). You can download and view:
http://rapidshare.com/files/211370712/RL_XQ_352x264_1500_112.mp4.html
or
http://rapidshare.de/files/46224820/RL_XQ_352x264_1500_112.mp4.html
(And remember, open only with WMP - in full screen)
Hello guys at xda
This question may have been here before, and if it has here it is again.
Is there a video player that is optimized for honeycomb, or at least a player that take advantage of the tegra 2 cpu?
Otherwise i like to know if there is an video player that support dlna devices, so i can browse the dlna server directly from the video player app it selfs, sonthere is no need for a second app to do that.
Last thing, and i dont know if tisnis redicilus, but is there a player that support iso files an so on ?
Hope you can help le, and sry for my english !
Regards Fisken
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
moboplayer is tegra2 optimized now. though be warned, like all other tegra2 players, HD mkv files have issues playing.
http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
so which codec pack should we use, the NEON?
and what do i do with the .apk file?
sorry, i'm a noob
edit: nvm, took me 2 seconds on google...
Vplayer was updated for tegra or honeycomb I forget which, but it works pretty well for most file types on the eee pad.
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Vplayer was updated for tegra or honeycomb I forget which, but it works pretty well for most file types on the eee pad.
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Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...
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i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...
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As a workaround, if you have firmware update1 installed, it means you have splashtop. Run the file on your pc and stream it via the splashtop app to your tablet. Should be fairly smooth if you have a good wifi connection. Doesnt help if you are nowhere near your pc of course, but good if you want to watch it in bed or something. You can even switch your pc off remotely this way too.
yea, i gave splashtop a try just to see how it works and all, but it's not too useful for me... i'll wait 'til these media players get updated.
I ave tried rock player and mobie player but, they kinda work. Subtitles dont appear while the files plays
my vote goes for moboplayer
i used to use rockplayer, but too many FC's
I love how moboplayer saves where you last left off on multiple videos
Fisken said:
Is there a video player that is optimized for honeycomb, or at least a player that take advantage of the tegra 2 cpu?
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Just to be clear about this:
The Tegra2 CPU is a fairly standard dual core ARM v7 core, This is a fine mobile CPU but nothing special and it will _never_ be able to soft-decode HD main profile h.264 video.
However the SOC includes a general purpose GPU that also includes hardware to decode h.264 in an accelerated fashion. This _should_ be able to play 720p main profile and 1080p main with limitations. However the only way to use this acceleration is via the Nvidia OMX plugins that are part of the "StageFright" media system that Honeycomb uses. This system is not exposed to the NDK, and is only available via the MediaPlayer object in java. (It is also limited to baseline profile and under-performing compared to the froyo version for these libs)
The MediaPlayer object is what the default player uses, hence you either use something virtually identical to the default player (With all the limitations it has) or you decode 100% in software (on the CPU not the GPU) and thus can't play HD content due to a lack of horsepower.
Optimising a video player for the Tegra2 CPU will do very little (Like compiling for SSE or 3DNow), perhaps make it a few percent more efficient but nowhere near enough to play HD content.
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i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...
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What profile and level is your video file? (MP4Box will tell you if you don't know)
So, which is better? moboplayer or vplayer?
freeza said:
So, which is better? moboplayer or vplayer?
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moboplayer is free and much more popular based on download numbers and ratings
SilentMobius said:
Just to be clear about this:
The Tegra2 CPU is a fairly standard dual core ARM v7 core, This is a fine mobile CPU but nothing special and it will _never_ be able to soft-decode HD main profile h.264 video.
However the SOC includes a general purpose GPU that also includes hardware to decode h.264 in an accelerated fashion. This _should_ be able to play 720p main profile and 1080p main with limitations. However the only way to use this acceleration is via the Nvidia OMX plugins that are part of the "StageFright" media system that Honeycomb uses. This system is not exposed to the NDK, and is only available via the MediaPlayer object in java. (It is also limited to baseline profile and under-performing compared to the froyo version for these libs)
The MediaPlayer object is what the default player uses, hence you either use something virtually identical to the default player (With all the limitations it has) or you decode 100% in software (on the CPU not the GPU) and thus can't play HD content due to a lack of horsepower.
Optimising a video player for the Tegra2 CPU will do very little (Like compiling for SSE or 3DNow), perhaps make it a few percent more efficient but nowhere near enough to play HD content.
What profile and level is your video file? (MP4Box will tell you if you don't know)
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So...long story short...the GPU can handle 1080/720, but right now players aren't taking advantage of it because the required code/plugins aren't in the NDK. Right now all the players are forced to use software decoding which uses the weaker cpu.
So release the damn plugins!
I'm tired of stuttering video.
Sorry to revive oldish thread... does anyone know if DTS audio is not supported on the TF? I was trying out some sample mkv in 720p and 1080p to see how they looked/sounded. After the 3.1 update the 720p videos are smooth, but I am not getting any audio on the videos in mobo or rock or stock player. In Rockplayer I opened the video with software support instead of hardware and got audio, but mega choppy playback.
Any ideas?
Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
This means either fluid video and no audio in hardware mode, or choppy video and out of sync audio in software mode. Very disappointing actually but afraid there aren't any alternatives out there yet.
You'll have to transcode the audio to AAC but that means an extra step in the process. The original galaxy tab seems to play everything, but well... that's not really an option either.
newtybar said:
So...long story short...the GPU can handle 1080/720, but right now players aren't taking advantage of it because the required code/plugins aren't in the NDK. Right now all the players are forced to use software decoding which uses the weaker cpu.
So release the damn plugins!
I'm tired of stuttering video.
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No, that's not what I'm saying. The "plugins" are exposed using StageFright which is used by the standard MediaPlayer object which moboplayer (et al) can and does use but only for the normally supported codecs/containers. There will never be anything better than that.
Any app that "adds" either a container or a codec to Android will be doing it via pure CPU decode, that will _always_ be that case (for the foreseeable future).
That said, the 3.1 update has improved h.264 playback massively, I can play high profile 720p quite nicely now. But if you want MKV container support _and_ h.264 hardware accelerated decoding you'll have to get Google/ASUS to add the MKV container into StageFright at the platform level, no video player app will fix that. (Or wait until we get the platform source, there is already a Matroska container parser in the AOSP repo that could be ported to Honeycomb, hell Matroska parsing is needed for WebM playback and Honeycomb already does that)
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Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
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Additionally: AC3 is patent encumbered so it costs money to include even if the chip supports it
Honeycomb optimised video player
I have found MX Vidoe Player the best player to use on my Vega running HC 3.2 Build 9n Update 2. Unlike Mobo Player the screen image can be zoomed to any size to fill the screen, not just stretch the image.
Do not know about HD, but depending on your video file resolution the image quality is great.
Dice
Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
dagrim1 said:
Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
This means either fluid video and no audio in hardware mode, or choppy video and out of sync audio in software mode. Very disappointing actually but afraid there aren't any alternatives out there yet.
You'll have to transcode the audio to AAC but that means an extra step in the process. The original galaxy tab seems to play everything, but well... that's not really an option either.
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False!!!
Mxplayer suports AC3 and is optimized for honeycomb
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 30mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 96.6 MiB (23%)
Title : Imported with GPAC 0.4.6-DEV (internal rev. 5)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-12 17:33:12
Tagged date : UTC 2011-01-12 17:33:13
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I can play the video smoothly and I have no problems with audio