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What time is it ? how do you reply to it with your PocketPC

Have you ever had a nice girl or someone asking you the time ?
surely yes. And I guess that most of you like myself do not wear a watch anymore and use their PocketPC instead.
Does any one know an application that could be assigned to a button to display the clock in FULLscreen mode. And then just pressing on the screen (or pressing the button again; a toggle button would be nice) would go back to the previous use of the PocketPC.
This way to would be easy to show the clock in fullscreen without having to start a heavy application.
Any suggestions for such an application?

Don't know about an app, but why not have the clock to always show in the titlebar?

I have the clock in the titlebar, but when you want to show the time to someone in the street it is too tiny, too small for the eyes.

rlToday looks really nice, but what I would like is just a pop with the clock. I have already too many stuff on my today screen, no space available.
I have just tried Spb Time, the screensaver screen would be perfect, but does someone know our I could launch the Spb Time screensaver screen with the push on a button ?
For this I need to find the command that does start it.

I Think u should try using Spb Mobile Shell...it's definately the right choice for ur need..

Try SPB Mobile Shell
Just released, adds a NOW screen when you turn on complete with clock. Press a soft key to go to today screen.
Using on mine, like it a lot.Only works with WM5.
http://www.spbclub.com/product.php?product_id=21

mikechannon said:
That looks quite nice. Just for comparisons sake with wisbar, does it allow multiple today screens or just the "now" screen and a "today screen"
Mike
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it is quite nice... especially when driving! but it does only allow 2 screens, the today and the now screen.

Mike, Wisbar Desktop could be a solution, you are right.
I have actually tried it a long time ago, but thought it was just a nicer way to display shortcuts to launch application. Am I wrong or I haven't looked at it enough. I prefer to use the start menu to launch application (I use WA2 by the way, and the cascading start menu feature is really Nice).
Can you have 2 normal today screen with WAD and switch with one hardware button from one another?
I have also looked at Spb Shell, and it seems to me that it is a way to get a simplified and more nice looking PocketPC. But I find the default WM5 today screen more convenient, and I would have to remove WA2 (I guess they can not run both at the same time..)
The other issue it that if someone ask you the time, you have to quit what you were doing to display the clock on the today screen.

Hi Mike, So as I can see with WAD you can create several desktops, create you own shortcuts. But still I prefer to use WA2 cascading start menu.
As enclose I made a screenshot of my today screen. I thought again, what I really need is a kind of screensaver with the clock so that anyone not accustomed to using a PocketPC is not lost with so many things (I guess that even the top and the bottom bar displayed can be annoying) and can just read the time. I going to investigate the command that has to be used to start 'Chronos' screensaver.

try ae button plus

mikechannon said:
Did you spot not only the big clock page BUT the last one that shows over 1 BILLION Active Tasks, but -144 are high priority!!
Mike
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Hey, I think we must work for the same company!!!!

Tsong, the AE Button thingy looks nice !
do you know if it is possible to tweak it to have only the time displayed ?

chris247 said:
Tsong, the AE Button thingy looks nice !
do you know if it is possible to tweak it to have only the time displayed ?
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ae seems no setting for time, maybe try VITO PopupClock
http://www.vitotechnology.com/en/products/buttonmapper.html

Lets see some today screens

Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.

hspda
how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic

yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude

sammypwns said:
how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic
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There is a registry setting you can use. I'm not sure of the exact details. Try searching around.
Or, you can flash romeos where it is already enabled.

yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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Hi,
Could you be most specific on what you used? I like the tf3d buttons. Lots of stuff out there and I have yet to run into it.
Thanks
Edit: Simply Black!

venom037 said:
another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude
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It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.

yzf750 said:
It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.
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thanks dude, ur a star... back to ur origional post as it seems it totally went off topic... I use the stock ROM and don't use the TF3D as it drains battery. In theory its great but my peeve is that in the TF3D, I cannot see multiple calander entries. What I mean is I use SPB Diary and I can see my appointmets up to 31 days in advance and that is more useful to me... therefore I use the standard WM screen but installed SPB Time, Diary, and Phone Suite.
thanks

Today Screen Question
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks

cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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After running all the well know perfomance tweaks off the forums here I really dont notice too much slowdown over the att theme. I notice maybe a 1 second delay on the touch flo screen from the time the tab is picked and let go until it loads the content of the screen. I can live with that.
Lots of freeware screen capture programs that do the basic job ok, I just stuck Screen Capture v1.1 off some ppc freeware site to snap it. I dont really need a fancy program for that It puts a bmp or jpg in your "documents" folder on the ppc then.

cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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1. I'm using one of the black themes and it only takes about 2-3 seconds for the people to come up. (A second or two slower than AT&T but not too bad.)
2. Try My Mobiler at www.mymobiler.com

My Touch Pro HomeScreen Vista Mobile
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....

wow...cool!

How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?

nucentury08 said:
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....
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i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?

Still using ATT Theme, with tweaks
I tried using full theme from diamond threads, but they make my tf3d crawl, even with every tweak I've found. I found some threads that make it easy to change things, like add clock - icons - and then get rid of top and bottom curtains. Just used old fashioned today theme .tsk black to change top and bottom bar, and added wallpaper in tf3d settings, although right now that picture doesn't carry over to the other tabs, mun has a program to do that but it kills my clock to all zeros all the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2877234#post2877234
chrome clock and icons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436301
tools to alter screen without using full theme change (be careful on fuze background in every tab kills my clock)

Here is my current

Vista ui
Thresher said:
How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol

asadkhan1988 said:
i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol

fitting more items on start menue

hi, i remember that recently i read somewhere how to fit more items on a start menue
does anyone know how?
i have searched much cannot seem to find it.
i did it before and it was realllly simple and cannot seem to find it again.

I'm gonna be honest I've looked too and I can't figure out how to disable the enlarged start menu. I know we're both gonna feel kinda silly when it's an easy fix but if that's what you're talking about count me in I need to know too! I use RRE's 4.5 SE and his screenshot shows the smaller start menu and for the life of me man I can't find out how to disable the bigger one! =x

disabling the large start menu is under touch flo options in settings.

Haha thank you so much I knew it was somewhere effin simple!! You just made my day =D

cmon someone must know how to fit more items in the start menu

anyone? know

Start > Settings > System > TouchFlo > (uncheck) Enable large Start Menu
Or you can use a standalone Start Menu program like QuickMenu which offers a lot of great features (long-tap start menu, in-line submenus, custom layout, etc). Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340358
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471861 <-- see this thread for how one user customized his menu.

this program is incredible, i cant believe i never used it before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471861
the second one is the good one, first one. no.
I have the best start menu ever n ow, and lag is so far away i forgot it even exists on phones.

how to dismiss m$'s honeycomb menu?

The stupidest menu I have ever seen.
How can I be back to normal or just remove the top "start" to make room
to display other information. thus I won't trigger this so-called
innovative menu.
There is the discussion on this:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090302/windows-mobile-65-honeycomb-menu-simple-ingenuity/
My eyes are more confortable to things that are aligned.
This honeycomb menu is introduced because of the small mobile touch screen. Just couldn't udnerstand that someone thought that is a solution which perfectly fit everyone.
In real world, a solution will introduce another issue looking for solution.
To me the dis-alignment is a bigger issue.
Please help.

Start menu
There's a few options when it comes to changing the wm6.5 start menu. Theres Quick menu 2.8 found here, and theres a cab to modify the honeycomb to a list here.

Thank you. The first one is a bit overloaded.
The list seems to be a good choice. Then I just miss the list of recent program.
Emul8or said:
There's a few options when it comes to changing the wm6.5 start menu. Theres Quick menu 2.8 found here, and theres a cab to modify the honeycomb to a list here.
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Porting Bottom Start button from WM6.5 to WM 6.1

Hello, guys!
You all are professionals and know almost everything about different versions of WM. I have one very important question: is there at least minimal possibility to port somehow this WM 6.5.5 feature - bottom start button to the old WM 6.1 firmwares?
Thank you very much in advance and sorry if this question is a foolish one

It's sort-of possible but would take a little work. Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).

Thanks for the answer!
littld said:
It's sort-of possible but would take a little work.
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I even can't imagine how it could be implemented... Don't you know if there already was some work for achieving it?
littld said:
Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
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Because it seems more slow to me. Official WM6.1 is very fast and simple as I see, faster than 6.5. I've tried a lot of 6.5 builds. But what I really miss in WM6.1 - is this bottom start button. If it be there - it would be the best firmware for all people like me, who like simplicity and usability instead of these huge slow animations and pictures.
littld said:
I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).
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Yeah, it's useful too. Would be nice if somebody experienced considered this interesting and made some investigation...

it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
It's no problem to launch the start menu. But changing the bottom bar is a *****! You could just overwrite the paint method as well. But this is not the full truth. The problem here is that every window got it's own bottom bar. So first you'd have to go through list of all windows/processes, retrieve it's menu bar and from there finally replace the window proc. Then you need to watch out and terminate your window proc if the application closes. And of course you also need to know if a new program is starting up. A nice-to-have feature of this solution would be that you can explicitely tell what happens when you hit the X button (hide or close) and don't need another hack for it.

Thanks a lot for your explanation, RAMMANN. It's very clear.
I can't do it by myself due to lack of experience. Well, the thing left is to wait if somebody experienced wants the same

Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm

RAMMANN said:
Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm
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Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
I think a decent compromise would be to set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs. If you install one of the start menu replacements (Green software) you can overwrite the start icon with something blank.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!

littld, thanks for your answer too.
littld said:
set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs.
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Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!

littld said:
Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!
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Well I didn't give up yet. I didn't even start dev for it. I just coded few lines to print something like "Hey your bottom bar is hacked!" in the Manila and start menu bottom bars. This is a very interesting project and has potential to allow a lot of things like Photon style or even an Android style bottom bar and I mean not only a standalone app like Androkkid but a full system replacement. I'm still looking around for an efficient way to realize this project and first things first so I'll be doing a start menu enhancement to warm up

J-Pro said:
littld, thanks for your answer too.
Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!
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I don't have the links but you can search. You want an app called VJKeypress - one of the keypresses will launch the start menu for you. Make a shortcut (.lnk file) for it. Search for how to change the left softkey text and program (somewhere in registry) to the new VJ link.

Thanks for your answers, guys.
RAMMANN, when you have some progress on this project, please, update this thread. I think people would appreciate it.
Thanks again!

RAMMANN said:
it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
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I know this is an old post i dug up here, but i was wondering how i would go about earasing the start menu link from the top? i'm using 6.5 and i want to totaly dissable the top start soft key. thank you