I am in search of a task manager which shows all processes including background processes with their cpu and memory utilization.
Any one please name it.
azfar said:
I am in search of a task manager which shows all processes including background processes with their cpu and memory utilization.
Any one please name it.
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Dotfred's: http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm
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Dave
or acbtaskman
thanks guys.
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I have two Task Managers installed: "System Panel" and "Advanced Task Manager"
When I use the above two apps to check my free memory (RAM) available, it always shows around 75-100 mb remaining
When I use the stock app manager to check free memory, the value is always significantly higher - like 140-160 mb.
Does anyone know why there is discrepancy between the two readings? Which one shows the more accurate value?
sax1981 said:
I have two Task Managers installed: "System Panel" and "Advanced Task Manager"
When I use the above two apps to check my free memory (RAM) available, it always shows around 75-100 mb remaining
When I use the stock app manager to check free memory, the value is always significantly higher - like 140-160 mb.
Does anyone know why there is discrepancy between the two readings? Which one shows the more accurate value?
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i dont know why there would be a discrepancy but you shouldnt use a task manager/killer on android 2.2+
slowz3r said:
i dont know why there would be a discrepancy but you shouldnt use a task manager/killer on android 2.2+
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Why not?
sax1981 said:
Why not?
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Starting in Froyo, Android has become more efficient at it's own native memory management than past versions and Gingerbread continued that improvement. What this means is that if Android starts running low on RAM, it will start killing things itself and reclaiming/reallocating the memory without the need for a third party app. The other concern about using a TasKiller most people raise is that if you set it to autokill, system apps or other sort of apps that need to be run(such as Facebook widget, other kind of widgets, noLED, et al) will relaunch on their own causing the TasKiller to kill it again... relaunch... kill... relaunch... kill keep your CPU cycles at 100% and draining your battery quicker than it should be.
That being said, I still use a TasKiller on autokill with the screen off simply because I like to (and paid for the app, so dangit, I'm gonna use it! ). Once you have identified the apps that relaunch upon kill and set TasKiller to ignore them, the battery concern isn't an issue.
sax1981 said:
Why not?
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they changed the way android 2.2+ handles apps in the background so when the task killer kills an app it does more harm than good, mainly kill the hell out of your battery because android wants to start it back up again
Dont know the details but thats the jist of it
System panel is a must have. It's not used to kill all apps, just to monitor your phone and kill an out of control app.
To answer the question, the way android shares RAM between processes is very difficult to actually identify free RAM and which apps are using what. So some apps make the choice to display the free RAM differently, no way around it as there is no one "right answer" on each memory usage. I always go by system panel myself.
RogerPodacter / slowz3r / unremarked - Thanks for the info!
In Advanced Task Killer or Task Manager the available memory is shown as only 90-100 mb, while when I check it in settings--> applications --> running services the RAM memory is shown about 250 mb.
So whats the main difference between these two memory, because I think both shows free available RAM.
I have T-mobile USA version, if that makes any difference.
I would imagine one is the memory left for the system to run (task manager ram) and the other is the room left for apps to be installed. Two different memories.
I think the room for the apps to be installed is the internal storage and it is showing me to be about 0.9 gb free in settings-->applications-->manage applications-->downloaded
My bad, your right. Mine shows 98mb free in task manager and 226mb free in applications/running services.
05081983 said:
In Advanced Task Killer or Task Manager the available memory is shown as only 90-100 mb, while when I check it in settings--> applications --> running services the RAM memory is shown about 250 mb.
So whats the main difference between these two memory, because I think both shows free available RAM.
I have T-mobile USA version, if that makes any difference.
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The Task Killer shows the amount memory that are not used by Android OS.
The Running Services show the total memory including those used to cache apps.
You can press option key while in Running Services, there should be an option called "show cached processes".
If you add the amount used as cache and the amount free in Task Killer, the total should be same as free memory in Running Services.
P.S. Sense is a total memory hug. I'm running without Sense and have 250mb free in task killer and 343Mb free in Running Services. When I 1st did a clean install without Sense, I had close to 300mb free in task killer.
Bigmille said:
The Task Killer shows the amount memory that are not used by Android.
The Running Services show the total memory including those used to cache apps.
you can press option key while in Running Services, there should be an option called "show cached processes".
If you add the amount used as cache and the amount free in Task Killer, you should get the same as free in Running Services
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Cached processes and running services shows the same amount of memory i.e., 241mb free
If you have 90 to 100MB free in task killer, and 250MB free in running services, go to cached processes and it should show about 150MB used.
So if you add the amount used in cache and amount free in task killer, the total should be the same as the amount free in running services.
Hope this answers your question.
I am running the latest insertcoin rom with launcherpro and the more apps I open, the more Memory I have free somehow, but I don't know why. If I use HTC Sense launcher that doesn't happen, Memory seems to get used more & more. I use the built in task manager app. I'm like at 200-230mb free almost always.
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Bigmille said:
If you have 90 to 100MB free in task killer, and 250MB free in running services, go to cached processes and it should show about 150MB used.
So if you add the amount used in cache and amount free in task killer, the total should be the same as the amount free in running services.
Hope this answers your question.
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But as I said earlier, both Cached processes and the running services shows me the same amount of memory free.
Could you please check on your sensation to confirm what you said
Bigmille said:
If you have 90 to 100MB free in task killer, and 250MB free in running services, go to cached processes and it should show about 150MB used.
So if you add the amount used in cache and amount free in task killer, the total should be the same as the amount free in running services.
Hope this answers your question.
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Yeah that works out I have 117mb cached background services.
Dandle said:
Yeah that works out I have 117mb cached background services.
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where did you check your cached background services. Because in the settings cached background processes and running services, both are same for me.
05081983 said:
But as I said earlier, both Cached processes and the running services shows me the same amount of memory free.
Could you please check on your sensation to confirm what you said
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My phone also shows the same amount of free memory in running services and cached processes.
This is because Android considers cached processes as free memory. They are background processes that are not visible or directly affect our use of the device and can be killed to free up memory to run service processes (i.e. user launched apps).
The cached processes basically are a list of recently used apps stores in reverse order, i.e. the least recently used app is at top of the list and most recently used app is at the bottom of the list. This way if the phone is running out of memory, it will start to kill off app at top of the list, so the app that was last used will be the last one to be killed.
The idea of cached processes is to improve the start-up time of an app the next time the user needs to run it.
P.S. I'm not an expert in Android operating system, this is just my general understanding of how Android managers processes.
05081983 said:
where did you check your cached background services. Because in the settings cached background processes and running services, both are same for me.
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You are misunderstanding. If you add the memory IN USE by cached services to the free memory in task manager it should equal the free memory in running services.
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moto211 said:
You are misunderstanding. If you add the memory IN USE by cached services to the free memory in task manager it should equal the free memory in running services.
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Alright I got you, but could you please tell me where can I find the memory in use by cached services
Hey guys, just looking to see if an app exists.
I use SuperBox to 'clear/free' my memory. I like to keep it at around 230MBs free at all times or so. My question is this: is there an app that exists that does this same thing, in a one-click widget form? Someting I can set as a 1x1 icon on one of my screens to just tap and it will clear the memory? That would be quite convenient, as right now I need to open up SuperBox, navigate to the Memory pane, then click 'Clear Memory'.
Thanks for the suggestions!
es taskmanager.
By default it will clear all apps in the list except a few which are hidden.
You can unhide apps/services by accessing the options menu.
You can also set a kill list only, so when you tap the widget it will only kill apps in your kill list.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.estrongs.android.taskmanager&feature=search_result
Clearing memory doesn't really help your phone to much, it's just gonna restore in a second.
You can create shortcuts to your memory clearing App
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task killers as you all should know are not healthy for android phones. linux pools memory. it manages it on its own.
Here's a good article on this: Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn’t Use Them
In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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Thus, killing all but the essential apps (or telling Android to kill apps more aggressively with the "autokill" feature) is generally unnecessary. Furthermore, it's actually possible that this will worsen your phone's performance and battery life. Whether you're manually killing apps all the time or telling the task killer to aggressively remove apps from your memory, you're actually using CPU cycles when you otherwise wouldn't—killing apps that aren't doing anything in the first place.
In fact, some of the processes related to those apps will actually start right back up, further draining your CPU. If they don't, killing those processes can cause other sorts of problems—alarms don't go off, you don't receive text messages, or other related apps may force close without warning. All in all, you're usually better off letting your phone work as intended—especially if you're more of a casual user. In these instances, a task killer causes more problems than it solves.
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Task killers are useless on anything newer then android 2.1. All they'll do is break some apps. I haven't used these on my phones and don't have issues. If your phone is slow its due to a rogue app.
Edit: somehow missed Norflynns post. That link sums it up perfectly.
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^^^ What they said
It's ok to have a task manager to keep an eye on processes and kill troublesome ones, but no point in constantly killing all your processes.
[Q] Is there a task manager like Windows? They seem to be "task killers" instead
Which task manager for Android 2.3 is a task manager like Windows'? All of them I can see aren't really task managers, they are task killers. I just want to see what is running and manage the CPU. My phone is really slow so I want to find out what's going on and what's hogging the CPU. Freeing memory isn't the problem, and anyway Android does that on its own.
Good afternoon, what is the best application to clean ram tasks?
mamut.rangel said:
Good afternoon, what is the best application to clean ram tasks?
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None, android is built with the necessary RAM management. It's built in RAM management works just fine. Using 3rd party task managers and RAM managers is a waste of time because, in android, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Task managers and RAM managers actually do the opposite of what they are "designed" to do because when you free RAM and kill running tasks, you kill tasks that are required by the android system to function, this results in the device having to reload and re-cache apps and data that it needed. This puts more demand on your CPU and wastes battery.
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Droidriven said:
None, android is built with the necessary RAM management. It's built in RAM management works just fine. Using 3rd party task managers and RAM managers is a waste of time because, in android, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Task managers and RAM managers actually do the opposite of what they are "designed" to do because when you free RAM and kill running tasks, you kill tasks that are required by the android system.ro function, this results in the device having to reload and re-cache apps and data that it needed. This puts more demand on your CPU and wastes battery.
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is the best way to make OS faster and save battery power? thank you
mamut.rangel said:
is the best way to make OS faster and save battery power? thank you
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You would do better to just disable or uninstall unneeded apps.
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