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first, I use skype on my hermes 200 adsl connection via a USB or EDGE connection in both cases I had not heard the voice of my interloccuteurs (voice cuts) while they are listening
will become of the weakness of my connection or there a reason?
also, I install skype mobile beta lite (for symbian s60 v.2) on a Nokia N72 to communicate with my hermes 200 but I have not the icon of the call, and in the category of aid on I said that "the call will be possible after the upgrade skype when it will be available in your country"
could I have the icon of the call before skype lite mobile beta is available in my country knowing that they have not yet?
else, the audio chat it was possible between two windows mobile user?
Finally, set apart the MIDs (see here) http://www.intel.com/products/mid/devices.htm , are there other mobile devices capable of video chat skype? if not, they are the other software can do without 3G or wifi, personally I know 5: vochat, octro, tivi, imichat (under symbian), and microsoft portrait
and another that I could not operate: tabletmedia, of whether someone else could get it to tell me how?
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I've long been looking for a solution to record my phone calls (for archiving for my electronic diary database - it's just fun to listen to, say, calls you've made twenty years ago. Yeah, I've archived my calls back even then - then, onto audio tapes, with my self-built automatic call recorder circuitry and automatic tape recorder controller).
As you may already know, except for some (in Europe / the States, rare, Asia-only Gigabyte models) NONE of the current Windows Mobile Pocket PC's (and only some MS Smartphone models) support this. It's just not possible to record the other party, let alone directly saving the GSM-based encoded stream to greatly preserve sound quality while keeping the same low speed (without recompressing it), just like how the vast majority of non-Windows Mobile-based call recorders do on both Symbian and in many "dumb" phones like the Sony-Ericsson t68i and the t610.
Yeah, sure, there're some software titles capable of recording conversations (most importantly, the brand new, 4.x series of Resco Audio Recorder, superseding PMRecorder, the, before the new release of the new Resco app, best phone call recorder app), but, as the restriction is hardware / OS-based, they can't lift the restriction either.
I've bought a Nokia N-Gage (got it for comparatively cheap with several original game cards - they're far better than I've previously imagined, particularly when you play multiplayer games at Nokia Arena! Highly recommended if you're into mobile phone-based multiplayer games - many titles are far better than anything else multiplayer-enabled on any other mobile platform) some days ago and played a lot with the current, compatible audio recorder solutions, most importantly, Ultimate Voice Recorder For Series 60. (The other, well-known solutions like ALON MP3 Dictaphone for S60 (2nd / 3rd), Total Recall (which, BTW, according to the homepage, will soon receive a Windows Mobile 5+ version too), LivePVR for Symbian Series-60 etc. are all Symbian S60 2nd / 3rd edition only and, therefore, don't run on the first-generation S60 OS of the N-Gage.) It worked just great (in automatic mode) and offered everything one may want to except from a decent automatic call recorder, except for the hardware-initiated beeps, which seem to be a non-fixable issue with the latest N-Gage firmware, unlike with some other Nokia models like the Nokia 6680, 6681, 6630 and N70 (and some more). (BTW, if you're interested, also see this thread on the beeping issue. Note that Beep Off can be found here for $20. Unfortunately, it doesn't have a trial version so you can't check for yourself whether it really eliminates in-call beeping during calls.)
Guys, Microsoft, hardware manufacturers, why do you want us to go for a Symbian device (or, for that matter, any "dumb" phone like the above-mentioned t610) for making phone calls? Can't you understand a LOT of people want flawless call recording capabilities? Why can't you enable this feature?
BTW, many ask whether it's legal to record phone calls at all. Please refer to this page - it's really useful. Well worth a read, particularly if you're in the United States (it lists all the states that allow for free call recording, and the ones that don't.) In Europe, to my knowledge, you're allowed to record calls in all countries without letting the other party know.
(Please do check out my already-mentioned PMRecorder article for more info on call recording issues. You may also want to explicitly check out the Windows Mobile Audio Recording Bible for alternative sound recorders. Note that, currently, I recommend the brand new, 4.x series of Resco Audio Recorder for call recording. Follow the link for a (linked series of) comparative reviews.)
Finally, I need to point out that it's the same issue that makes it impossible to implement a local voice mail / answering machine application for Windows Mobile, another highly demanded functionality. (There are several similar solutions for Symbian and Linux, where the hardware / API's allow for directly accessing and recording the incoming voice channel.) Just make a search for the words "answering machine" at XDA-Developers and HowardForums (the two most active Windows Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition boards) and you'll see these kinds of applications are in high demand too. Also impossible to implement on Windows Mobile. Check out for example THIS ARTICLE for more info on this question.
Menneisyys said:
In Europe, to my knowledge, you're allowed to record calls in all countries without letting the other party know.
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In Germany that would be illegal. You HAVE to inform the other party. And that could lead to the situation, that nobody calls you anymore...
We had some troubles with recorded phonecalls in the past (especially eastern Germany for about 40 years... ), that would make such a product hard to sell here.
As nice as it may be to listen to past phonecalls, it would make a lot of people highly uncomfortable to know every word ist recorded.
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It's just not possible to record the other party,
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Recording/playing sound from any analogue source is trivial with an AK4641-based
phone ( universal, hermes, athena, etc.) on the hardware level. Don't know about wince, but i've
done some tests on linux/universal and it works.
let alone directly saving the GSM-based encoded stream
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It's a hardware design decision made by HTC,
and you can't override that without soldering and (most probably) heavy radio ROM patching.
The raw input/output phone sound is mono and analogue.
I wud like to add.All e-ten devices does record the calls.Also, imate PDAL, a bit of atom, Dopod P800w,D600,U1000.
All tested with Vito Audio Recorder.
We r at par with Symbian
hdubli said:
I wud like to add.All e-ten devices does record the calls.Also, imate PDAL, a bit of atom, Dopod P800w,D600,U1000.
All tested with Vito Audio Recorder.
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Thanks for the info. (BTW, are you absolutely sure they directly tap into the voice stream, and make a flawless recording of the other party, even in a very noisy enviroment OR when you use a Bluetooth headset)?
you could wait for q60 t600 from gigabyte and or get the i300 which is getting also a wm6 upgrade \o/
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks
TekSoft: "the MS BT stack can not be hacked to enable flawless call recording"
TekSoft, one of the most excellent newcomers to the Windows Mobile developer scene but already being Bluetooth experts (see for example their excellent BlueMouse and BlueMusic applications), have just announced in THIS thread that it's, unfortunately, not possible to "hack" the Microsoft Bluetooth implementation of Windows Mobile to "capture" speech packets and record them:
"We had another attempt of making PhoneREC possible - by intercepting the voice flowing through the BT driver when a Bluetooth headset is connected:
1) when a call is established, the software would have enabled voice routing to Bluetooth headset
2) if a headset was not present, it would have been emulated (to be able to use the device without headsets with phonerec too)
3) voice data over Bluetooth would have been in the form of SCO packets
4) our software would have intercepted the SCO packets, extract the voice data, record it to a file, and play it on the device's speaker (so no need of using the headset to hear the other party in the call)
Unfortunately this failed too, as the SCO packets are handled in the hardware, so we found no way of capturing those from a software program.
The only remaining option is to use a custom made wired headset with PhoneREC. This works and assures high fidelity sound for both parties, but the phoneREC user can only record the phone call by using the special wired headset."
This is certainly very bad news for anyone not having a call recording-capable model.
For the time being, you have only few choices if you want to record your phone conversations. These are as follows:
If you want to stay with Pocket PC's, go for either the Gigabyte gSmart. According to the user comments HERE, the O2 Atom Exec and, HERE, the Asus P525 and P535 are also call recording-enabled. Unfortunately, the availability of (some of) these models can be restricted (for example, it's pretty hard to get the gSmart in the non-Asian / Australian region and when it's available at all - through, for example, ordering via Expansys -, it is pretty expensive.)
If you prefer MS Smartphones (in the Windows Mobile 6 parlance, WM6 Standard devices) or, are ready for returning to the two-device approach (one for phone calls and basic stuff like, say, playing emulated games via SmartGear / MasterAll's emulators or quickly browsing the Web via Opera Mobile or Opera Mini, another for anything other requiring a decent Pocket PC or Smartphone), with the HTC Oxygen (HTC s310). I'm absolutely sure it DOES support call recording - it makes excellent recordings, even when a BT headset is used. Note that I have an Orange rebranded Oxygen localized to Central-Eastern Europe (I've bought mine from a Slovakian guy to keep the costs down and it has Polish / Slovakian / Hungarian localization), SPV C100. However, I don't think the original HTC Oxygen wouldn't support call recording and it's just because the given countries' allowing for call recording that my Oxygen supports it. (To make sure HTC supports it in the "basic", non-localized models, I couldn't reflash it to a generic HTC ROM discussed HERE because there are no CID unlocking solutions for the model.)
Note that some? many? other Smartphone models do NOT support call recording. One of them, unfortunately, is the HTC Vox (s710), which is by far the best Smartphone available today. It does not, I repeat, NOT support recording the other party and yes, I've tested this VERY thoroughly.
If you don't want to get the above-listed PPC / Smartphone models but is ready to keep a non-Windows Mobile phone with you, you may want to read for example THIS article on the Symbian alternatives and what call recorder applications the platform has. Note that UIQ-based Sony-Ericsson phones, according to this thread, aren't capable of recording calls, only Nokia models. Also note that it's not with ALL Nokia models that you can get rid of the constant beeping.
If Symbian isn't your favorite, you may want to stick to "dumb" phones like the (Sony-)Ericsson t610/t618 (and, probably, later models). If you assign the call recording functionality to be started by quickly pushing the joystick to the left, you can easily emulate the (missing) auto-recording functionality. Unfortunately, the t610 doesn't support saving the other party's number / name along with the recording, unlike the call recording-capable predecessors of the t610. An example of the latter are the t68(i) and the, now, seven-year-old r520m. Note that the latter only supports recording one party and the former, while it stores both the timestamp and the other party's identity, doesn't let for transferring these recordings to anything via a cabled / IR / BT connection - that is, the recordings must be played back on the t68(i). Furthermore, on the t68(i), it takes slightly more button presses to start recording (there are no auto-recording capabilities either), unlike on the successor, the t610.
Siemens' old "dumb" models (for example, the SL-45) are also stated to be able to make flawless recordings. I don't know whether it's easy to make them automatic, whether the recordings are correctly timestamped or whether the other party's number / name is also stored along with the recording.
Finally, if always switching your phone to speakerphone mode is OK with you (and your environment: co-workers / family members etc.) and you never use wired / Bluetooth headsets (which would make recordings entirely impossible), make sure you always do so. It'll deliver definitely worse recording quality than recording with a phone that does support recording, but is still better than in the non-speakerphone mode. Note that if you need automatic speakerphone activation (as opposed to the manual one), you'll want to take a closer look at VITO AudioNotes - currently, it's the only audio / call recorder application to support auto speakerphone activation (and is, in general, an excellent call recorder for both the Pocket PC and the Smartphone).
Please DO read my related articles for more information on all these questions; they may answer all your questions.
Windows Mobile device manufacturers & Microsoft, we DO need phone recording capabilities!
Review: decent phone call (!) / note / MP3 recorder VITO AudioNotes 1.3 out!
How can I record phone conversations on my Pocket PC Phone Edition device?
I am waiting for a good working mobile video solution (hopefully integrated with MSN or Skype Mobile). I saw in this Microsoft AD this functionality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2LmvHwNyPo
do you think video through windows live or msn will be aviable in the shorter term?
thanks!
maybe delayed because phone operators make a lot of money on video calls and if it's handled over the Internet they loose those money so they would likely advocate
skype mobile and msn live not introducing those features
Rudegar said:
maybe delayed because phone operators make a lot of money on video calls and if it's handled over the Internet they loose those money so they would likely advocate
skype mobile and msn live not introducing those features
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at lest someone may sue them for lying on a TV ad
Curious if its possible to remap the video call option to automatically use tango, skype, or some other video calling service? I have NO CLUE what the native video call option is????? is it proprietary like iPhone Facetime? or carrier based? or what?
Since I'm on T-mobile in the USA - I'd like to remap that to use a compatible option . THANKS
Tango
Have you downloaded Tango for your Optimus yet? I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Please give better details.
tlee422 said:
Have you downloaded Tango for your Optimus yet? I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Please give better details.
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I understand what he's trying to do. ie when he goes into his contacts and hits video call, instead of making a normal video call, he wants it to connect via skype instead.
in theory this would be possible, but then the reciever would also need skype...
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I understand what he's trying to do. ie when he goes into his contacts and hits video call, instead of making a normal video call, he wants it to connect via skype instead.
in theory this would be possible, but then the reciever would also need skype...
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That's exactly right... from contacts hitting the video call button the phone using an outside method of video chat... What is the default method anyways? is it some proprietary protocol like Apple's FaceTime? or is it carrier based or what?
Another great question would be, is there anything that would interface from the optimus to a facetime device? is there facetime for android? All my friends and family have iPhone's, and NO ONE has Optimus 3D or android's at all - hence the reason for wanting to use another video call client.
Hi Araltd,
My experience is only for Tango.
Currently you can Tango another Tango users from within your contact list.
Tango supports PC, Android 2.1 or higher, Windows Phones, iPhones (3GS and newer), iPod touch fourth-generation and iPads. That means you can Video Chat with other platforms.
You should give Tango a try. You’ll enjoy it!
Android Devices
- Download Tango from the Android Market here: http://bit.ly/lERnBS (choose to open in 'Market' when prompted)
Apple Devices
- Download Tango from the Apple App Store here: http://bit.ly/lpK8XN (iPhone, iPod, iPad)
I am in the same boat as you; all my friends are iOS users. I just can’t get away from Androids freedom!
can we use hd7's primary camera as webcam through any app??
What do you mean by "as webcam"? If it means - "like any cheap USB webcam to work with desktop Skype app" - the answer is "no" (however, with appropriate drivers and phone software it's may be possible - check this topic for details).
If you mean "like an IP-cam", to be able to watch video/picture stream from WP7 - yes, it's very possible with current API but I don't know any app on the markeplace. And I'm not sure about app necessity.
You'd have to install an app on the phone that streams the feed from the camera over the network, and an app+driver on the PC that received the network stream, and fed it into a virtual camera device.
Theoretically possible (although the quality would probably be awful) but not easy. Webcams are all of what, $15 these days?
IP-cams with 3G/4G/Wi-Fi capabilities definitelly are not worth $15 Android, 4 example, has a nice app called IP Webcam so I converted my old, cheap and unused Android phone to the nice IP cam (but no, my wife doesn't cheat me, of course! LOL)
Why not use TANGO app?
PocketCam will let you use your WP7 as a webcam to your computer, and you can use it with MSN, Skype, etc.