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I bought att tilt today and want to know what's the best rom so far for it
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wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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wow a little harsh huh? why the sour response?
Well, Doug is probably coming from some other forum where a new "Which is the best ROM?" kind of post is started each week. It is a natural question, but it gets old after a while.
In the Hermes thread for example, there are multiple kitchens for making ROMs, so everyone and his brother are putting out new ROMs constantly that suit their needs. Asking which is the best is kind of like asking which restaurant is best in San Francisco. There are good ones and bad ones, cheap ones and expensive ones, it is all a matter of taste.
At this point though, with three or so cooked ROMs out for the Kaiser, I think it might be a valid question. Most knowledgable people will have tried all three and come to some sort of conclusion.
Yeah really ! why would this piss anybody off ?
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o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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Really, a good way to find out what's best (for you) is to try them out. I know, everyone says that. But they say it for a reason.
A great place to find out before flashing is to hop into the individual threads for the specific ROMS and read what's included in each and what comments (good and bad) have been posted. There's only a few ROMs out at the moment, so that won't be hard at all.
Usually when anyone starts a thread like this they just want someone to throw out an easy "The best ROM is...". I am personally using the HTC stock at the moment. I like it for now, others don't. So, you'll have to decide for yourself.
Have fun finding out!
hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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My issue with the question is that if there truly was a "best ROM so far" available, it would be posted as such and probably stickied. The point is that there is no BEST, even with only 3 of them out there. Each is different.
I've tried all three ROMs and seem to be about the same. Only differences are the apps included, and storage space. Check them out and see for yourself.
Kaiser Roms, which is best?
I spent the last two days testing out all the variants of the ROMS out there, and there are pretty much only 4 English versions available.
Here you go, a nice summary of the results in one quick read, but i've not included the links to the files, some work for you
1. the stock HTC one - RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe (uses WM6 CE OS 5.2.1620)
and then 3 or so (because he has sub versions to remove unnecessary programs) variants of the same ROM by Helmi:
2. helmi_Kaiser_1.57.000.1_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - a cooked version based on HTC WWE version but has newer WM6 CE base code (WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908)
3. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.02_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - another cooked version of HTC_WWE version but has selectable "activator" directory of cabs that the user can install as desired. Also uses same WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908 as above.
4. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.03_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - yet another flavour, but this one has virtually all extra programs removed in a good attempt at freeing up as much memory as possible, it also uses a newer version of WM6 CE OS 5.2.1921.
see Helmi's link for all the info. My hats off to you Helmi.
In the end, I decided to go with the standard version as released by HTC, as I didn't notice much of a difference myself. I have naturally upgraded various cabs and installed my ideal base set of apps to get the machine setup as I prefer. My decision to go this way was based on what I prefer and you should really try the ROMS yourself to make the correct decision, I didn't try every program with each version so perhaps i missed things.
I upgraded the Radio to version 1.27.12.17. -(this doesn't appear to make any difference to my terrible radio reception or the random dropping off of the radio link to GSM, neither does selecting the gsm option under band instead of auto). Thank god that I don't use 3G as there seems to be a real problem with the UMTS radio code. I just hope that I don't have a hardware fault, but I doubt it as numerous other people and links reflect similar issues to mine. We can only hope that HTC will release new RADIO code soon.
So, I wish you well in your endeavor to find "the perfect ROM".....
While I wouldn't have posted "best rom" question (as I agree, that is so subjective), that is a great help SAppie! Thanks!
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Not wanting to piss everyone off
I think the OP was requesting ROM test result and comparison, like SAppie comment, as I also agree there's no such thing as 'best ROM'.
Now, there're release with WM6.5 and others. Anyone can update this with newer ROM's comparison?
As a newbie in WM myself, some of the thread has 1000 pages .. to read all will be tough, but sometimes that's the only way. The FAQ and sticky is helpful as starting point for me ..
well i tried athineos os, hyperdragon III, life in 3d and now i will try 6.5 beta but so far the fastest is the athineos and it greaat
This is an old topic with no real constructive merit, so I'm closing it.
Perhaps this thread is what you're after: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399510
Thanks
Dave
This started yesterday using dutty's newest hybrid rom on the radio it comes with, i believe its 1.64.14.06, yeah thats it. This radio and rom has worked fine for me with great 3g coverage and everything, rom just seemed a little slower than his apr 09 32mpp rom. I then changed the radio to the niki 1.58.11.07 since that one works the best for me. After flashing, the first phone call i made or recieved worked fine on my jawbone bluetooth. Any call after the first one, completely nothing. Phone shows im connected, seconds tick away on phone showing im connected, person on other end cant hear anything as well as me. Ive tried calling and receiving calls from numerous numbers and people with same problem. I also tried turning off bluetooth and trying the speakerphone or regular ear piece on phone and still same problem. If i soft reset the phone then its back to the start, the first call either made or recieved works fine even on blutooth headset, speaker phone, or ear speaker on front of phone, then every call either made or recieved after the first nothing! I then flashed back to the stock 1.64.14.06 radio with no more problems. I then got tired of the newest hybrid rom since its slower then the previous apr 09 32mpp rom and flashed back to the apr 09 32mpp rom with stock radio 1.64.14.06. After making many calls and recieving many calls since this last flash, the problem just started again now on the apr 09 32mpp rom with the stock 1.64.14.06 radio! The same exact symptoms as before! Everything else works fine like gps, texting, e-mail, I just cant use the main feature of the cell phone which is to TALK to someone! Anyone have any ideas? I was thinking about flashing back to the stock att rom then flashing back to the apr 09 32mpp rom to see if that helps. Like i said before, the apr 09 32mpp rom has worked for me perfect for over 2 weeks until the newest hybrid came out and even the hybrid worked fine for the first few days. No programs are running in the background, no damage done to the phone, never dropped it, phone battery over 75 percent, cant figure out whats wrong? Please, if anyone can help???
Im gonna try to flash back to the niki radio 1.58.11.07 since i used that radio the most on this apr 09 32mpp rom. Still can't figure out what would cause this to happen to my phone for no reason? I havent downloaded any new apps or anything. Just stopped working!
just a thought but shouldnt you have posted this in the relative rom thread instead of starting a new thread but if i were you and liked the radio i had id reflash the same one try it out for a while if it happens again then try a new radio
sd73ta said:
just a thought but shouldnt you have posted this in the relative rom thread instead of starting a new thread but if i were you and liked the radio i had id reflash the same one try it out for a while if it happens again then try a new radio
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Of course i would post this in dutty's rom thread but have you seen his thread? Grows over 1,000 posts a day. The same time im typing up my problem, 10 other problems already got posted and so on. Thats why i posted this as a new thread, not to take up space but to get my problem answered and some help. Yes i did flash back to the niki rom just now and made over 7 calls and recieved a few just phone on my phone but that doesn't mean this problem won't happen in a day or in an hour. Like i stated in the first post, the roms (newest hybrid and apr 09 rom) worked perfect the first few days or even weeks and then BOOM, this problem hits for ? reason. Just looking to see if anyone on here can figure out why this happened so if it does happen again in the future for me or anyone else on this forum they will know how to fix it. Like i said before, i havent damaged my phone, no new cabs or programs added, soft reset my phone and doesn't fix the problem, even flashing to a new rom altogether didnt fix the problem and flashing to a new radio only fixes the problem temporarly.
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deeznuts said:
Of course i would post this in dutty's rom thread but have you seen his thread? Grows over 1,000 posts a day. The same time im typing up my problem, 10 other problems already got posted and so on. Thats why i posted this as a new thread, not to take up space but to get my problem answered and some help. Yes i did flash back to the niki rom just now and made over 7 calls and recieved a few just phone on my phone but that doesn't mean this problem won't happen in a day or in an hour. Like i stated in the first post, the roms (newest hybrid and apr 09 rom) worked perfect the first few days or even weeks and then BOOM, this problem hits for ? reason. Just looking to see if anyone on here can figure out why this happened so if it does happen again in the future for me or anyone else on this forum they will know how to fix it. Like i said before, i havent damaged my phone, no new cabs or programs added, soft reset my phone and doesn't fix the problem, even flashing to a new rom altogether didnt fix the problem and flashing to a new radio only fixes the problem temporarly.
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Wow for your convenience and avoiding 1000 posts thread, you create a new one. What a good idea. I should do the same thing since I'm not English speaker and it's really difficult for me to read in English.
No wonder why you are senior member.
Thanks for the idea.
Hi,
I understand that this is a little bit confusing but, actually, with the same build there are "2" versions the one that is labeled with the 1.65.14.06 radio and the one labeled with 1.64.08.21.
So, Radio 1.65.14.06 & 1.65.17.10 are just compatable with roms labelled 1.65.14.06. this means if you flash another different radio, you'll get the bugs you described...
On the other side, all the other 6.1 radios should work with the second version, labeled with 1.64.08.21. once again, if you flash an att radio (1.65.14.06 or 1.65.17.10) you'll get the bugs you described...
NOTE: RADIO 1.65.17.10 IS NOT RECOMENDED - IT WILL UNABLE THE RE-FLASH PROCESS WITH ANY OTHER RADIO, UNLESS YOU'RE SECURITY UNLOCKED
cheers
Honestly, im more new to the thread and Id have to say.. The most annoying thing and the thing I dont quite understand is how many whiners there on on "posting new threads" as if posting is something sacred that only the best people should be able to do. Now I understand the defense "oh well people post more and more of the same questions.. blah blah" but who the heck is actually making you read these threads? Honestly, id call posting new threads troll bait, because its only the trolls that rush to whine about it. Ive personally never posted a thread, and I never would in this forum. To be realistic, I come on this site almost everyday and see the same crap. Its just loaded with peoples roms on the first page of the forums. Im just saying, give some of these guys a break. Im sure there will be trolls that come in and complain against my post... but oh well. Im sure others have noticed it too
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Honestly, im more new to the thread and Id have to say.. The most annoying thing and the thing I dont quite understand is how many whiners there on on "posting new threads" as if posting is something sacred that only the best people should be able to do. Now I understand the defense "oh well people post more and more of the same questions.. blah blah" but who the heck is actually making you read these threads? Honestly, id call posting new threads troll bait, because its only the trolls that rush to whine about it. Ive personally never posted a thread, and I never would in this forum. To be realistic, I come on this site almost everyday and see the same crap. Its just loaded with peoples roms on the first page of the forums. Im just saying, give some of these guys a break. Im sure there will be trolls that come in and complain against my post... but oh well. Im sure others have noticed it too
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okay let me help u understand why senior members and moderators get ticked when people post new threads:
a) as the name of the site states it is targeted towards developers or people with ability to understand 2+2. developers put there personal time trying to create something better for us without any monetary gain.
b) posting new threads about the same issue pushes real issues down or completely buries them. xda gets close to 100000 hits a day .. imagine if all those people created new threads .. what would happen to threads w/ real issues??
c) it is easier to post and quiker to get a response under a rom thread that u r having problem with. i post under rom that i have issues with and always get an answer unless the problem is my own stupidity which i manage to fix.
d) its part of xda's tos to post under threads that r relevant to ur query.. don't like that? good bye.
e) people post new threads cuz they don't wana read. believe me i know .. but reading is the best thing so read the wiki it can answer all questions like this one.
f) people respond better when they see u r following rules ... if a cop pulled u over and u gav him **** u would probably get in more trouble compared to if u apologized for what u did wrong. same goes here post a new problem and everyone will try to help; post a question that has been answered 10 thousand times u r bound to piss people off.
and i don't think i need say more.
Always someone that has to post back on things subject to common sense which either A) makes that person feel smarter then they actually are or B) feel like without there knowledge, all would be lost. Without your details, I said that main outline of what someone is going to end up whining about, but then again... what made you put so much time and effort into reading my message? for that matter, you even came on this subject and replied to nothing the OP needed and instead, just trolled my message. Obviously you came in this thread to complain, whine, or whatever you call it, noticed my message, and felt my message was a better target.. so here goes. (oh, and I never asked why "senior members" or "moderators" get ticked. It was more people like you "members" lol)
A) Who are you to define peoples questions into interpretations like (2+2)? Maybe because they dont know what YOU know, that doesnt make them stupid. Its people like you who dont realize that people always have to be taught by someone, and im sure you learned all your stuff by reading through 1000s of pages of threads and not posting any yourself... just realize, no ones born with the knowledge.
B) As I said in my previous message, I see mostly ROMS on the first page everytime I come on the site. Not just that, if no one wants to respond to the thread, doesnt it just get lost from there? but usually its the trolls that keep new threads going isnt it? and once again, who are you to define whats a real issue? obvious when people post, they are having issues. For you to say they are worthless is for you to say that your issues are just more important.
C) Ok thats your preference, and your OPINION states that you will get an answer quicker when posting under a rom thread, but honestly... its a matter of personal experience. Theres no evidence that would show posting under an existing thread gets your questions answered quicker, as im sure some people might have done both but have had better experience with posting a new thread.
D) Obviously thats understandable. But to what degree? moderators would "decide" which threads are relevant to what query? Im sure even moderators understand that people are going to post because not everyone has hours to spend looking certain things up. While you can look at two different threads and in your opinion they could be the same, the variations of the two threads could show quite a difference in the solution thats needed for a problem... and just because someone doesnt like someone, is that really how it should be? goodbye?
E) Hah how do YOU know why people are posting? have you done a survey? and dont tell me its common sense. While sometimes it can be because of laziness of reading, it can also be the fact... someone couldnt find what they are looking for. wow imagine someone posting because of that. Maybe the wiki does answer the question, then again, maybe some people looked and didnt know how to interpret the answer to the question so needed to get more advice or opinions.
F) Using an example of a situation thats totally irrelevant to that actual discussion is quite useless IMO. Thats not true all the time.. maybe it means a cop would look around or search you to try to find more evidence to put you up... but id hardly interpret that into "more trouble" then just kissing the cops butt. You used an analogy of a subject thats basically "stand up for yourself and say what you mean, or dont" and that analogy goes both ways. Some situations help you by shutting up, while others dont.
I dont think I need to say more either. While im sure a detailed reply will probably attract more trolls... this was merely just a single reply based on "thesires" direct interpretations, opinions, and outlooks. While I myself believe in many cases new threads shouldnt be started and just post in existing threads, I still remember there are billions of people out there... and a little confusion or misinterpretation is understandable. Theres many situations and solutions ive seen or found..
1) The person who spends his time trolling the forum and finding these type of threads, then disrespectfully and aggressively insults the OP and complains.
2) The kind person who directs the OP to the right place.
3) The person who doesnt care and doesnt want to hear it so doesnt read the thread and watches how it quickly sinks to the bottom because it doesnt get many replies.
My solution is always if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it at all. If you dont want this thread to stay at the top... dont respond to it.
One last thing, these are my opinions and are that only. They are not regarded by myself, or is it assumed that whats posted above reflects any views of others. It doesnt show anything factual, its just merely an opinion stated. So plz dont spend time arguing that
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It doesnt show anything factual, its just merely an opinion stated. So plz dont spend time arguing that
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I figured that since you spent so much time editing, checking grammar and punctuation that you might want to know that you forgot the period on the very last sentence.
lol the fact that I didnt edit any grammer at all would just be giving me a compliment. So thanks. I actually edited it to add in the line at the bottom, to tell people that it was opinion based, and not expressing any views of others. That way I wouldnt offend too many people. But geez was that post you made even neccessary? Ill leave the period off on this one too
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lol the fact that I didnt edit any grammer at all would just be giving me a compliment. So thanks. I actually edited it to add in the line at the bottom, to tell people that it was opinion based, and not expressing any views of others. That way I wouldnt offend too many people. But geez was that post you made even neccessary? Ill leave the period off on this one too
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About as necessary as this one. BTW, you misspelled grammar. Anyway, your welcome. Your previous post was quite intelligently written.
Calm down u too, this isnt why i created this thread. Ive been on this site for some time now and have flashed countless roms both on my 8525 and tilt and never had a weird problem like this. That is why i created this thread which i also dont do very often. I guess if it makes everyone happy i could copy and post my problem in the 2 rom threads and see if someone can answer it. Thought this would be easier yes for everyone but i guess not. Admin go ahead and delete this thread i started since it must be taking up too much valuable space on this forum and people are tired of seeing it instead of helping me, thank you.
shadowlabs9 said:
Hi,
I understand that this is a little bit confusing but, actually, with the same build there are "2" versions the one that is labeled with the 1.65.14.06 radio and the one labeled with 1.64.08.21.
So, Radio 1.65.14.06 & 1.65.17.10 are just compatable with roms labelled 1.65.14.06. this means if you flash another different radio, you'll get the bugs you described...
On the other side, all the other 6.1 radios should work with the second version, labeled with 1.64.08.21. once again, if you flash an att radio (1.65.14.06 or 1.65.17.10) you'll get the bugs you described...
NOTE: RADIO 1.65.17.10 IS NOT RECOMENDED - IT WILL UNABLE THE RE-FLASH PROCESS WITH ANY OTHER RADIO, UNLESS YOU'RE SECURITY UNLOCKED
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I totally understand what ur saying but my problem is even with the stock radio that comes with the rom, 1.65.14.06. I rom worked perfect for about a week with the original radio then this problem started so i changed radios and still didnt help.
I've had this issue too. Less so after disabling Voice command, but it happened again yesterday. The bad this is that you don't realize its gone mute until you try to dial out. Ringtones and all notifications are gone too.
I've had it happen with and without bluetooth and with multiple radios.
there are always recommended actions to take after flashing a rom. You must hard reset after flashing. Weird stuff does happen when you don't hard reset. This could be due to the rom, too acting really funny. You guys probably put it through scenarios where it gets unstable. Theres a good chance these problems are fixed in the newer roms.
I seriously wasnt even concentrated on spelling or "grammar", but I did find it pretty funny out of all the words ive typed, you nailed me on the "grammar" one. Admitantly ive been spelling it that way for a long time, so it made me laugh when I seen your post. Thanks (seriously)
Seeing as the admins here are stubbornly refusing to create a dedicated sub forum for the x7510, I've set up a free forum which may be found here: http://htcathena.freeforums.org
Please note: I don't WANT to be running a seperate board and I'd prefer to have a sub forum here. However, for as long as the admins ignore our requests I'll keep that forum running.
Should a dedicated x7510 sub forum be created here I will close that forum down. Closing down may be deleting it, or if there were many useful posts simply preventing new posts, so that it dies a slower death over time.
This is NOT an attempt at blackmail, but rather me trying to avoid more devices being bricked.
PS: Please excuse the ads on that site - I've gone with the completely free option, so I'm saddled with the ads!
What's the big deal?
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Seeing as the admins here are stubbornly refusing to create a dedicated sub forum for the x7510, I've set up a free forum which may be found here: http://htcathena.freeforums.org
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What reason could the xda admins possibly have for not creating a sub-forum for the 7510? Or even an entirely new forum? Look at the Elf and the Vogue.
Anyone know the admins' reasoning on this?
Isn't in my mod powers to create a sub section... I am asking to the admins, again. I hope we will have some answers soon
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Isn't in my mod powers to create a sub section... I am asking to the admins, again. I hope we will have some answers soon
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Thank you, although I have to say at this stage I'm quite annoyed with the admins, especially seeing as they cannot even be bothered to respond to any request!
elf and vogue are totally different devices which happen to look the same
one is cdma and one is gsm and they work in totally different ways. the vogue has 400mhz prcessor and the elf 201mhz
also to be perfectly honest, how can people not tell the difference between x7510 and x7500/x7501
you bought a device that cost £700 (according to expansys) so surely you know its model name. and because of the cost, if you see x7500/x7501 unlocker you will be wary of using it, even if you think its a typing error
and on the subject of the elf, the elf has 2 variants elf (64 ram and 128 rom) and elfin (128 ram and 256 rom)
both are different and only the elf has hard spl
flashing one rom for one onto the other will brick it
so the same probs as here
but they deal with it and have stickies saying how to distinguish between them and where to go for hat, and seperate guides for flashing roms onto the elf and elfin etc etc
so maybe thats whats neded here
i think the admins are probably fed up of people requesting fora only to have them empty:gene, pharos, juno, sedna are all pretty empty forums that were massively requested and yet not much comes out of them
and now i just counted the votes in the "we want an x7510 section" thread nd there are 33 in 3 months
yes 33
not exactly a huge number is it
But you may all think im just raining on your parade, but im not, I completely understand why you want a new section, but im just trying to highlight why the admins probably dont want it, there are so many new devices which have massive appeal, compared to a £700 device which is essentially an 18 month old device in new casing.
And so in conclusion, I think a sticky explaining he differences between x7510 and stuff is whats needed. Plus, cmones seemed keen to make (or try and make) you guys a hard spl, so why doesnt someone whose a senior (or old) member contact HER and see what she can come up with. she will probably need rom dumps and stuff, but I'm sure she can do it. after all she and others got custom roms on the shift.
night guys, and I hope it works out for you all, and nobody else bricks their devices...
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And so in conclusion, I think a sticky explaining he differences between x7510 and stuff is whats needed. Plus, cmones seemed keen to make (or try and make) you guys a hard spl, so why doesnt someone whose a senior (or old) member contact HER and see what she can come up with. she will probably need rom dumps and stuff, but I'm sure she can do it. after all she and others got custom roms on the shift.
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Now THAT was helpful! Why didn't anybody else think about it!
But seriously, CMONEX confirmed she is working on a hard SPL/unlocker and happens to agree with the need for a seperate sub-forum, for a number of valid reasons.
The thing is that a sub-forum will not affect anybody else on XDA-Devs - it won't require more resources, nor more bandwidth. It takes a minute to set up and it may well save several devices.
So please tell me in great detail why there SHOULDN'T be a seperate sub-forum? Why SHOULDN'T things be better organised than the current "pile-everything-into-one-pot" mess? And how exactly will YOU be any worse off should a sub-forum be created?
You will be worse off, won't you? Why else would you be against it?
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Why SHOULDN'T things be better organised than the current "pile-everything-into-one-pot" mess?
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I agree with you on that, NanoRuler. E.g. without the latest Athena ROM link by sergiopi (thanks for it), I wasn't even able to compare all existing ROMs for the x7500 at a glance, there are too many threads spread over the entire forum.
Regarding the x7510, a new sub forum would possibly give a better overview. It hasn't been of major importance until now, but it will become necessary very fast, once the x7510 can be unlocked...we should get prepared for that moment. ;-)
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also to be perfectly honest, how can people not tell the difference between x7510 and x7500/x7501
you bought a device that cost £700 (according to expansys) so surely you know its model name. and because of the cost, if you see x7500/x7501 unlocker you will be wary of using it, even if you think its a typing error
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Yes, except there was no indication NOT to run various tools against the x7510.
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but they deal with it and have stickies saying how to distinguish between them and where to go for hat, and seperate guides for flashing roms onto the elf and elfin etc etc
so maybe thats whats neded here
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My, what an excellent example of good organisation....NOT. Maybe what's required is a rethink in how the forums are structured, eh? And maybe having distinct sub forums for the different models of Athena will help a great deal.
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and now i just counted the votes in the "we want an x7510 section" thread nd there are 33 in 3 months
yes 33
not exactly a huge number is it
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I suggest you go and count again, bearing in mind there are actually requests in different places (perhaps another fringe benefit of piss-poor organisation?)
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I completely understand why you want a new section
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Sure, buddy. You have me COMPLETELY convinced that you have our best interests at heart.
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And so in conclusion, I think a sticky explaining he differences between x7510 and stuff is whats needed.
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And that will sort out the mess how exactly?
rorydaredkign said:
night guys, and I hope it works out for you all, and nobody else bricks their devices...
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Let me re-phrase your sentiment: I don't want you guys to benefit from a seperate section (even though I'm not directly affected!) and I certainly don't want things to become more organised and anyway there's so few of you that your opinion doesn't matter, but hey, here's to no more bricked devices!
I'll be polite here and let you choose the 1st word, but the second word of my reply is certainly "OFF!"
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I agree with you on that, NanoRuler. E.g. without the latest Athena ROM link by sergiopi (thanks for it), I wasn't even able to compare all existing ROMs for the x7500 at a glance, there are too many threads spread over the entire forum.
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you think thee are lots of roms here, go look at damond rom development and then tell us there are loads of roms here...
I really dont mind or care if theres a seperate section, but I can see why you want one, and also why the admins havent made it
I think a seperate section would actually help dev for us, as we could use your roms and port between the two and stuff.. it would lead to a better dev community here
nano, don't take your anger out on rory. He's not a mod and undeserving of your "**** off".
How about you have a few drinks and relax?
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nano, don't take your anger out on rory. He's not a mod and undeserving of your "**** off".
How about you have a few drinks and relax?
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Yes, he's not a mod, but he also did not need to try and build a case against the wishes of quite a few members here using poorly thought out strategies.
He was dismissive without having any reason to be and essentially stated that our opinion doesn't matter (although he didn't quite put it in those words).
Finally, I specifically did NOT tell him to **** off, but gave him some choice in the phrase.
Either somebody's part of the solution...
fair play
hope it works out for you guys
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Further discussion here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438035
Mike
Sorry.. truly sorry for asking such a dumb question. I have found and will use the NEWB flashing guide, but even there it doesn't suggest which ROM to use.
Jade? Maybe?
I have a ATT branded Tilt, latest crappy ATT 6.1 build and am ready for all of the improvements.
Since there are so many different ROMs of different flavors, it honestly is hard to tell which one to use in general.
Can someone make a good suggestion? I even saw off one of the linked site for the ROM images, one for the new touch HD?
Hoping for ease of use, speed, and better radio reception.
Thanks.. and again sorry for the newbie question
Raichean said:
Sorry.. truly sorry for asking such a dumb question. I have found and will use the NEWB flashing guide, but even there it doesn't suggest which ROM to use.
Jade? Maybe?
I have a ATT branded Tilt, latest crappy ATT 6.1 build and am ready for all of the improvements.
Since there are so many different ROMs of different flavors, it honestly is hard to tell which one to use in general.
Can someone make a good suggestion? I even saw off one of the linked site for the ROM images, one for the new touch HD?
Hoping for ease of use, speed, and better radio reception.
Thanks.. and again sorry for the newbie question
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Hey ..first off...welcome to the XDA forum and I hope you will find your "perfect" Rom in due time.
Just like everybody else...you have to try every Rom to find your best.
And please read first...I was in your shoes not too long ago but I have read so much for long time.
There are no short cuts here my friend.....Read and read more
Welcome to XDA. Check out the Links In my Signature. Phone Customization the XDA Way is a LONG but fulfilling Journey.
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Yesterday, i've installed these 2 apps in hopes of improving my battery life on my HTC Touch Pro. However, not only did both not work or has no effect, but it also screwed up my fone, VERY BADLY.
These are the apps:
http://mobile.dlugosz.net.pl/Products/BatteryGuard/tabid/59/Default.aspx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478519
I'm not saying they're crap or anything, but they just don't work for me and screwed up my fone so i'm just posting this as a warning for you guys. Also, i hope someone has a solution to this, coz right now my only solution is to do a hard reset.
The problems i get is that the screen rotation doesn't work anymore when i slide out the hardware keyboard, also when i press the power button, it doesn't turn the screen off. I haven't changed the function that the power on button is assigned to, so by default it should turn the screen off and i like it so i kept it that way. But now, it doesn't turn off.
What's worse, is that shutdown and soft reset don't work at all, i have to pull out the battery to turn it off.
And even worse, it drained my battery from 100% to about 10% in less than 2 hours when i have everything off. It pissed me off so bad. I dunno if anyone else have the same problem as me but for those of you who haven't tried it yet, be warned.
And btw, i'm using a HTC Touch Pro GSM version so it works with the programs as stated in the instructions in those topics.
What phone are you using?
This is what this app has to say:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478519
NOTICE: This software is only for the GSM variants of these devices: MSM7xxx based devices, Samsung i900 Omnia, Samsung i780 !!
NOTICE: This is a pre-alpha testing version. It's not nearly close to ready for full-time use. This topic is primarily to discuss possibilities... Code is proof-of-concept stage. You should NOT run this app fulltime!
This might have been the source of your problems.
Please learn to read be4 u post, I stated my phone model at the start and end of the sentence, dunno how u could've missed that....but i'll say it again, i'm using HTC Touch Pro GSM version.
And in the topic, it said this, u didn't read properly again.
Device list
This program is known to work on, GSM versions only:
HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris)
HTC TyTN II (Kaiser)
HTC Touch Diamond
HTC Touch Pro (Raphael)
HTC Touch HD
HTC Touch Diamond II (Topaz)
HTC Touch Pro II (Rhodium)
Samsung i780
Samsung Omnia
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
Palm Treo Pro
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So it's not JUST for the Samsung Omnia or i780......
DUDE?!
dude, come on what is it with you?
I appreciate your not saying the apps crap but seriously why start a thread to warn people about what the app did to your phone?
Yes that is slagging of the app and putting the guy who created this down- chainfire works his ****ing ass off- creating stuff and giving back to the community. It's people like him that keep this community going, and have you seen the donation stars next to his name????
Threads like this will just get people like chainfire and other to say "**** it" why bother.
Man the right way to go about this would have been to post on that thread, what it did to your device. help him learn so he can better his device application - that post is on the general forum, what you think they are going to come to this thread to read you winge?
an a closing note- anything you flash/install/copy onto/throw at your device has a chance of crashing it, or even bricking it. If you cant be asked doing a hard reset if something goes wrong, go buy an iphone! they never crash or bump out..............
what you should do is go onto that thread and thank him for his hard work....
il even go and do it.
i think the Raphael uses less battery on 3G standby than 2G standby... just my usage so far indicates that
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dude, come on what is it with you?
I appreciate your not saying the apps crap but seriously why start a thread to warn people about what the app did to your phone?
Yes that is slagging of the app and putting the guy who created this down- chainfire works his ****ing ass off- creating stuff and giving back to the community. It's people like him that keep this community going, and have you seen the donation stars next to his name????
Threads like this will just get people like chainfire and other to say "**** it" why bother.
Man the right way to go about this would have been to post on that thread, what it did to your device. help him learn so he can better his device application - that post is on the general forum, what you think they are going to come to this thread to read you winge?
an a closing note- anything you flash/install/copy onto/throw at your device has a chance of crashing it, or even bricking it. If you cant be asked doing a hard reset if something goes wrong, go buy an iphone! they never crash or bump out..............
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Because posting a reply in a topic that has over 50 pages is just tedious and annoying. People won't read every page and reply to the questions and it's important problems/bugs that i experienced that should be best post in a new topic to let people know. I never said his apps are crap, i'm just posting this as a warning to let others know as not everyone will read through every page of his topic, and not everything posted in his topic are related to bugs/problems either, some are just suggestions etc.
It's like trying to go through pages after pages of replies in the Rom Development topics, it's very annoying. I find a lot of questions unanswered in those topics coz after just 1 hour or so, new replies are added and the page is then updated up to 4 pages more and it's just plain annoying. Nobody answers all the questions in topics like that and it's just pointless.
And as a matter of fact, i've installed heaps of stuff on my fone and this is the first app to cause this problem. Even the chinese fonts etc didn't cause me any problems, and they're the most easiest ways to brick a fone.
Lastly, I did not in anyway try to "slag" the app or disrespect the creator of w/e, i appreciate his work and i get that heaps of ppl support him etc etc, but i'm merely posting this problem just to warn ppl, as well as hoping for a solution because it's quicker to get responds in a new topic anyway.
But i already got it solved by updating to a new rom, and luckily, the Energy Rom was updated 2 days ago so i needed the update anyway.
Did u notice the first line of the post?
Note this is a BETA version and will have issues.
Also, did you search that thread for your issues? maybe someone else has experienced them and found solutions.
Maybe your issues are caused by a combination of apps that you have installed making it a rare case.
I'm just saying its not right to go and blast these apps when there are a bunch of people using them and not experiencing the problems your having.
I support "chaoscreater"
I support "chaoscreater" because of what he answered:
- He did not post it on a thread that is too long and probably the message will not get to who it was supposed to go to .... US USERS that COULD end up BRICKING OUR phones and loosing our time.
- So this way people can be aware through a BETTER WARNING.
- Last ....... "chaoscreater" you should post it in the thread so the developer can work it and improved it.
So no harm, just he missed to mention if he did or did not post it in the APP thread.
Do not bug him for being responsible.
Uhh! and THANK YOU FOR THE WARNING.