I've searched and didn't see this brought up. Apologies if this is common knowledge...
In a nutshell, plotting a route AT&T Navigator with AGPS enabled allows the camera's GPS photo function to work correctly.
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I have NEVER been able to get the GPS photo function of the camera to work. It would always stay on the "Initializing GPS" screen indefinitely, even if I had GPS lock in OCN8 (with AGPS disabled). With AGPS on, I have constant loss of GPS every few seconds with OCN8.
For grins, I decided to take advantage of the 30 day free trial of AT&T Navigator and turn ON AGPS to see if I could duplicate the claims others have that AGPS works well with AT&T Navigator. I've been skeptical of these claims.
What I've observed is if I fire up AT&T Navigator (with AGPS enabled) and have it plot a course, then concurrently run the camera app and select GPS Photo, it works immediately.
If I then shut down AT&T Navigator and go back to the camera app, the GPS Photo function won't work and stays on the INITIALIZING GPS screen.
Although I was highly skeptical that AT&T Navigator would do anything to the GPS, I am now becoming convinced that AT&T Navigator is somehow allowing AGPS to function correctly.
Furthermore, I haven't found it to be enough to simply go past the safety screen in AT&T Navigator as reported by others -- I actually have to plot a course to get it to enable the GPS photo function to work.
Just another GPS datapoint
have you tried google maps with gps enabled instead of messing with trialware? if it works you may just be able to use that instead and itll last forever since google maps is free. i have garmin, it pulls up gps faster than google maps but if you go to another program or if the screen turns off or something, the gps drops out.
I have never been able to figure out what GPS photo was. how does it work?
its basically adding a bit of data that gives longitude and latitude so if you bring the photo into a program like iphoto, it can put a little point on a map saying you took the picture where.
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Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest satellite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
SOLUTION:
If you've installed AT&T Navigator, uninstall it. Be sure to call 611 and make sure that you were not charged the GPS service charge on this month's cycle.
Either the HTC guy didn't know his stuff, or this just happens to work around the "Telenav-Only" Block.
I've successfully gotten repeated locks on Google Maps without the use of Telenav. It's not even installed. Here's the procedure to get a (relatively) fast GPS lock:
If you don't already have it, download Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3 (or newer) (see here: http://touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html) (needs .Net Compact Framework 3.5. see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...act-framework-3-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/).
In the Advanced Configuration Tool go to GPS. Make sure the subsettings are as follows: (the last one is 32KB if you were wondering)
Assisted GPS: Enabled
Log file: \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
Old log file: \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
Max. log file size: 32768
Next, download and install GPS Test 1.04 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129672&d=1226619670)
Now, every time after a soft-reset (or each day) you want to use the GPS, perform the following actions:
Run QuickGPS and download new satellite info.
Run GPS Test (ensure that GPS settings are on COM4 and a baud rate of 38400).
GPS Test will give you a bar and a signal strength indicator for each satellite. The fix process can take a couple minutes, but just give it some time. Upon getting a 3D lock, it will display "GPS Running".
At this point, you can exit GPS Test and open up Google Maps, TomTom, Garmin, iGo, whatever map tool you use. The navigation app should get a quick (< 30 seconds) fix with anywhere from 7-10 satellites depending on location. It will continue to do this until a long duration of time has passed (I'm talking 5-10 hrs (haven't tested)) or until a Soft-Reset.
This procedure worked for me. I don't know if it'll work for everybody, but I think it's pretty reasonable, the wait time isn't too long for a GPS fix. Good luck and god speed, gentlemen. Let me know if this works for y'all or not.
m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine does too - I think you may want to check out the numerous GPS threads on here on how people corrected theirs. I have been busy doing other stuff to worry about the GPS, so I haven't tried any of their advice, but there are Tons of threads on the GPS issue.
i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine works, but so far only at home sitting in an east-facing window. Have you tried calling HTC Support? I called about another matter and got an answer right away. The US number is: 866-449-8358.
Let us know how you make out if you call!
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i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
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Most people are just complaining about lag, but there are a few posts about people having trouble getting a fix. It looks like tomtom and the gps tool are trying, but they just won't get a fix. I even stood outside in the cold for 30 minutes, and it never would work. I made all the changes with advanced config and also the manual registry changes... pretty much every suggestion I've found in all the other threads, but nothing works. If I happen to come across a solution, I'll definitely pass it on... but I'm less than optimistic at this point.
I had the same issue - I grabbed the Diamond TomTom cab (from diamond forum - no maps needed) and was able to see the progress of locking in the satelites.. It took about 10 minutes of the phone sitting outside to get a lock for GPS. Now that it has locked once (I have rebooted several times btw) it seems to pick up the lock a lot faster.
And.. I have not tweaked my GPS settings and a-gps is still enabled.
The GPS is a little shotty if you ask me.. I'm sure something will be changed in software down the road to speed up getting a lock.
I have the same issue
Google maps just keeps timing out
google maps wont work for me
Not sure if this will help or not, but I had mucked with my GPS com port settings (under Settings, GPS Settings).
For Programs: Com4
For Hardware: (None)
Baud Rate 4800
For Access: Manage GPS automatically (recommended) --- Is checked.
In Google Maps, I have the "Managed by Windows" radio button selected.
Doing that allowed me to pull up the satellites in about 10 mins the first time, then a lot more quickly after that.
I have no idea what that actually did, but it made GPS work in google maps for me.
I think it would be a good idea to get a program that shows you GPS lock status, so you can see which satellites are detected and their signal strength. Other than that, just leave the phone outside with a clear view of the sky for a little while and see what happens.
m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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I had the same problem at work. I think GPS will work outside. Mine started working with Google Map and Live Search when I was driving.
If that still doesn't work, try install at&t navigator. Maybe it will unlock the GPS.
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Hi all I spoke with HTC and you need to download and enable Telenav to activate the GPS. It did not ask me to sign up there is basic turn by turn once it is downloaded and gives you the option to upgrade. Once telenav was installed google maps found satelites within 30 seconds. hope this helps
Ah, that explains why it worked for me -- when I bought my Fuze, I let the salesman sign me up for the 30-day free trial of Telenav. I expect to cancel it, but I was curious to see what it was like.
Same worked for me. I tried the 30 day free trial and now the GPS works. TeleNav doesn't even seem that bad since it checks traffic for you...
No GPS lagging behind reporting your position like the TP?
I have not seen any lag. it is very quick
so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
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Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
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Seriously. Didn't you ask why?. Or question this since its an apparant marketing ploy. I heard the same for tomtom. It took my gps a while to to get the first time but after then it locked significantly faster.
i agree, it is shady, but in the end, it works. i got a perfect signal (locked into 6 satellites) with google maps, almost instantly (after connecting once with telenav).
its smart on at&t's part, but now i'm going to look at the cab and see if i can find what makes it work!
can anyone upload the telenav app so i can unlock my gps. i dont have the stock rom anymore(changed to natf rom) and telenav isnt on there.
Hi guys,
I thought I would share what I discovered today. If this solution has been found, I apologize. Most users have been trying to get their Fuze GPS to lock on to satellites. Having used several GPS phones and many Bluetooth GPS pucks, I would say I'm somewhat experienced with using GPS on the PPC platform.
I have no issues with getting a lock on my Fuze. My issue is with Fuze's GPS chip randomly stop streaming data to my GPS applications. This usually happens after the initial lock. So for example:
a) Get a lock using any GPS application (GPS Test for example)
b) Exit GPS application
c) Launch GPS application again. Fuze will take several seconds to regain lock.
d) Fuze will take several seconds again to lock in, THEN it just stop streaming data to the GPS application!
I was able to reproduce this consistently. If you're using Garmin or TomTom, they will indicate that GPS lock is lost or something to that effect.
THE SOLUTION: Turn OFF aGPS!
a) Start->Setting->System->AGPS Settings
b) Uncheck BOTH "Enable AGPS" and "Enable AGPS location information..." (under the Privacy tab)
I was able to show that this consistently resolved my GPS data stream stopping problem. I'm using the .28 radio, but try it on the stock radio to see if that works and let the community know. What about QuickGPS? AFAIK, it's not causing any problem at all.
I hope this is helpful.
After standing on my deck for 20mins last Friday waiting on locks, I follow above and get a lock in 10secs(in my living room).
Turned off AGPS was the only change
It looks like without AGPS, the GPS would just stream whatever info it had cached even if it lost signal.
AGPS would clear last state instead and so become highly sensitive to signal-loss on the next poll. It doesn't help that this device is weaker in picking up GPS signals.
Yes, turn off AGPS.
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It looks like without AGPS, the GPS would just stream whatever info it had cached even if it lost signal.
AGPS would clear last state instead and so become highly sensitive to signal-loss on the next poll. It doesn't help that this device is weaker in picking up GPS signals.
Yes, turn off AGPS.
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Indeed, that would be exactly how I like my GPS to behave (use the cached ephemeris data). In fact, that was how all Bluetooth GPS puck works before the advent of AGPS. I guess AGPS is a good concept, but its implementation needs to be further tweaked.
If you have not used your GPS in a week or so, then AGPS is an advantage. Daily use, perhaps not so much.
So I know a lot of us (probably you if you're reading) have had tons of problems with the GPS regardless of ROM vesrsion. I've tried several ROMS (currently using Romeros (great)) and several radios (currently .28).
And here's what I've found. GPS will almost never work - except if ATT Nav is running. Then it works every time. However, as we all know, once you log into the Nav - you're being charged. This brings me to my quesiton. Have any of you Moderators / Hackers tried seeing what's in the ATT Nav that's enabling the GPS. I spoke to HTC today and they told me that the phone was designed NOT to work unless ATT Nav is running in the background. So what's that program doing to activate the GPS. And (and I'm not sure if this is how it works) couldn't we just install the app, and take a picture of the used dll's and registry changes to see what it's actually doing - and write a small program to do the same thing?
Thanks,
BZ
My GPS works without even having ATT Nav installed. It just takes awhile to 'warm up'. When I'm planning to use the GPS I will just fire up my map program, iGo or Google Maps and wait. It takes about 2 minutes to start working and then I get good GPS signal until I'm done.
i dont think this is true, since people with the unlocked/unbranded touch pro are having the same gps issues.
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My GPS works without even having ATT Nav installed. It just takes awhile to 'warm up'. When I'm planning to use the GPS I will just fire up my map program, iGo or Google Maps and wait. It takes about 2 minutes to start working and then I get good GPS signal until I'm done.
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Same here. I go out to start the car and the nav program (CoPiolot or google maps) and come back in a couple minutes. THe GPSTest app doesn't seem to get it started any sooner, just tells you what sats it's seeing and the signal strength of each.
Regis
There is a whole thread on this subject with a cab file called GPS Tweaks.cab in it. Installing that CAB file fixed all my GPS issues .. Google, Windows Live Search, iNav all make proper use of the GPS now.
My gps works with google maps..
Launch quickgps, run google maps, it picks up sats in 1-3 mins.
ATT Fuze, stock rom, google maps
having gone through Advanced Configs and changed a few settings on the GPS, my GPS seems to be working perfectly within reason of a GPS on a phone. As long as i am outside or by the window, i get at least 4 sats in no more than 1 minute. most of the times, it is accurate to at least 20 feet if i am not in fast motion (car speed)
No problems here. Stock ROM, never installed AT&T Nav, takes about a minute or so to warm up, and loads Google Maps and Liver Search quickly. Very accurate - right down to standing under a tree in a park.
There's nothing to what you are saying - it must be a coincidence. It's been proven that the GPS is not locked to AT&T Navigator.
Recently my Google Maps has not been able to lock in on my location closer than 1500 to 1900 meters. I have hard reset and reinstalled GMaps with no luck. I have seen tweaks for Sprint and TMo users and have read that most VZW users are having no problems locking in. Are there any tweaks that I can try for the VZW TP2?
there are numerous gps tweaks to change the cache settings if you search for them. also try using the program quickgps which comes with your phone it will download the closest satellite info. inside my building i cant lock on any sats but outside i can get between 8-9 and within 10 meters of my location
Make sure location is turned on.
If you do the quickgps program on the phone it will turn location on for you and download the closest satelites for you and you should get a lock in like 10 seconds when you are outside.
Unless you turn on location you will just get your general location with google maps, mine said within 2800 meters till I used QuickGPS.
I have duplicated your problem by unchecking the gps option after you open google maps and pressing menu and the down arrow. Make sure the location setting is on as prior post stated and then after you open google maps make sure gps is checked in the menu and it will say that it is searching for satellites.
also make sure you change your gps settings in google to com4 and a baud of 4800
you also have to re-enable the "use gps" after changing this
I was able to dublicate the problem aswell, by accedent >_<, anyway, make sure the location setting for google maps is selected.
confirming what others here are saying, that's pretty much what I experienced with GPS unchecked in the main right softkey menu. If you don't have that checked it's using cell antennas or wifi to approximate your position. "Menu" > "Use GPS" and it should work by default.
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also make sure you change your gps settings in google to com4 and a baud of 4800
you also have to re-enable the "use gps" after changing this
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Leaving it set to the "Managed by Windows" setting works just fine for me. No issues, and definitely use the Quick GPS program, it saves a headache. In fact im sitting on my couch in my appartment on the bottom of three floors built on the side of a hill with 2 sides of earth, and I have a strong 8 to 9 sats.
I just got my TP2 yesterday and one of the first things I did was install google maps and I was getting result like the title of this thread "within 1800 meters" and it could be a mile off. also the sats were not locking at all. I realized that my position was based on the tower that I was connected to. By the way the google maps on my VX6800 never used the towers to triangulate a position but the gps lock were much slower. Once I ran the quick GPS in the programs menu it turned on the GPS to the right setting and now I get an accurate lock even inside within seconds.
Go to settings-all settings-personal-phone-cdma services-location setting and make sure that it is set to "Location On". If not, you are not actually using the GPS. With that on and with QuickGPS doing it's thing, you will lock instantly.
I have a Verizon TP2 that is two weeks old. It does not have QUICK GPS! Oh yeah, and the gps does not locate.
Do I?
Return it?
Hard Reset? (sounds like a lot of work)
Get the file somewhere?
I have had it twice to Verizon. They have no suggestions but are happy to see the device and get their hands on it.
Leaning towards exchanging it for a new one.
JG
Can't get a GPS lock when using the turn-by-turn nav. It says "Searching for GPS" for like 5 minutes.
Anyone else have this problem? This is on the EP3 leak as well as the EP1Q leak.
Download faster fix from the market, I had the same issue. Now it locks on immediately
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
Any options/ideas for non rooted phones?
Download an app called GPS Status from the Market. Start it up, go into the menu, and select "Manage A-GPS State". Reset A-GPS and then downloan new A-GPS data. Go back to the main screen of the app and leave the phone with a clear view of the sky. You should see the visible satellite count (the second number) go up pretty quickly, but it may take a while for the empherisis data to finish loading from them...5-15 minutes at the long end. Once that's done, you should be able to get a lock pretty quickly from that point on, so long as you start up the GPS and let it get a GPS lock at least once every two or three days.
EDIT: I just wanted to make a note here, after seeing all of the "GPS sucks" threads about this phone, that people have gotten very spoiled by modern handheld GPS units with ultra-high sensitivity, 20+ channel receivers. This device is a phone that has a very capable GPS chipset, but it doesn't have the receiver sensitivity of a dedicated unit, and you can't expect it to perform as such. According to the GPS standard, it's perfectly expected for a GPS unit to take up to 15 minutes or longer to get a location fix if it is starting up cold...that is with no almanac data stored. The AGPS states will contain some of this, but some of it still has to come straight from the satellites...namely the empherisis data that tells the *exact* current state of the satellite in use and the rest of the constellation. Modern dedicated GPS units have receiver sensitivities so high and have so many receiver channels that they can poll a lot more satellites a lot more quickly and effectively than this phone can in order to build this almanac initially, and even then, it can take a couple of minutes. Once the almanac is built, the course satellite data will be available for a few days out, and as long as it stays up to date, the system will only have to make small corrections. Once the almanac expires, the system has to rebuild it from scratch, and that takes a while, as the system bandwidth of GPS is quite small.