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Slow Vista file transfer to //Windows on device.

Hi everybody,
I am, as most of you know a skinner here on the forum.
So first of all i little explanation:
All dialers that I know of install all of their images in the /Windows directory on your mobile device. So when I skin a dialer I have to copy my files to that directory over and over.
In windows XP, the browser only had to load the file list from /Windows once and when it was done doing so, it blasted all images to the /Windows folder.
So I had to wait half a minute and then I just copied over all files, great!
Now I use Vista and it has to load then complete new file list for every file it want's to copy to the /Windows directory. With my previous dialers, I was ok with that. (+/- 20-30 images) But with the new Opal and Diamond dialer it has gotten a lot more. (total of ~350 images) That means I have to wait 350*30= 10500 seconds -> almost three hours for all files to be copied! And that is just demoralising!
So any suggestions on making this work faster are much appreciated!
I've tried to use Total Commander but it does not recognise my pocket pc and nor does FastCopy.
Thanks in advance (even for reading the enitre story )

Well, for me I had to connect my phone to my PC using the USB Mass Storage option instead of Activesync to increase the copying speed. I am using a Touch Pro.

That will prevent me from seeing the windows directory :/
Only sd card is visible then.

pauldgroot said:
Hi everybody,
I am, as most of you know a skinner here on the forum.
So first of all i little explanation:
All dialers that I know of install all of their images in the /Windows directory on your mobile device. So when I skin a dialer I have to copy my files to that directory over and over.
In windows XP, the browser only had to load the file list from /Windows once and when it was done doing so, it blasted all images to the /Windows folder.
So I had to wait half a minute and then I just copied over all files, great!
Now I use Vista and it has to load then complete new file list for every file it want's to copy to the /Windows directory. With my previous dialers, I was ok with that. (+/- 20-30 images) But with the new Opal and Diamond dialer it has gotten a lot more. (total of ~350 images) That means I have to wait 350*30= 10500 seconds -> almost three hours for all files to be copied! And that is just demoralising!
So any suggestions on making this work faster are much appreciated!
I've tried to use Total Commander but it does not recognise my pocket pc and nor does FastCopy.
Thanks in advance (even for reading the enitre story )
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Your device has to refresh after every file copy, or Vista has to refresh the file list? What vista file browser are you using? Are you using Windows Mobile Device Center?
I have Vista Business x64 and I'm not having any problems copying to and from the \Windows dir. I will help you as much as possible.

It's not copying from the device but to the device that takes a very long time.
I'm using the standard file browser from vista and Ultimate x86 with WMDC.

My laptop (Windows Vista Home Basic) takes ages when copying files from my laptop to the /Windows directory on my device too. When I try to copy files for a Manilla2D theme for example, it takes about 5 hours.

In Vista make sure that you have "show hidden files and folder" deselected in Folder Options. Also, try disabling the "Show system files" option as well. This should minimize the number of files that explorer will try to display when refreshing, thus a speed increase.
I'll try to look into this more, as I just copied all the opal phone canvas files to \windows from my vista machine. It only took ~2 minutes to copy all the files.

KMFM$ said:
In Vista make sure that you have "show hidden files and folder" deselected in Folder Options. Also, try disabling the "Show system files" option as well. This should minimize the number of files that explorer will try to display when refreshing, thus a speed increase.
I'll try to look into this more, as I just copied all the opal phone canvas files to \windows from my vista machine. It only took ~2 minutes to copy all the files.
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But when I do this, I can't access the /Windows directory because its a system file?

JamminJaguar said:
But when I do this, I can't access the /Windows directory because its a system file?
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Hmmm. Do you have your device configured with Mobile Device Center (setup to sync)? I ask because I don't sync anything with it. I simply use it to connect to the phone. Maybe this has something to do with it.
I'll also check the speed settings in Device Manager. Maybe there is something to adjust there.

One option I use is to pull the card and use a USB card reader to drag the files over. Lightening fast. The other is the USB connection option on some of the newer ROMS i.e. DCDs, Scrosslers (DCD variant). Has very fast directoru refresh and copy.

Solution to Vista problem
pauldgroot said:
Hi everybody,
I am, as most of you know a skinner here on the forum.
So first of all i little explanation:
All dialers that I know of install all of their images in the /Windows directory on your mobile device. So when I skin a dialer I have to copy my files to that directory over and over.
In windows XP, the browser only had to load the file list from /Windows once and when it was done doing so, it blasted all images to the /Windows folder.
So I had to wait half a minute and then I just copied over all files, great!
Now I use Vista and it has to load then complete new file list for every file it want's to copy to the /Windows directory. With my previous dialers, I was ok with that. (+/- 20-30 images) But with the new Opal and Diamond dialer it has gotten a lot more. (total of ~350 images) That means I have to wait 350*30= 10500 seconds -> almost three hours for all files to be copied! And that is just demoralising!
So any suggestions on making this work faster are much appreciated!
I've tried to use Total Commander but it does not recognise my pocket pc and nor does FastCopy.
Thanks in advance (even for reading the enitre story )
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Vista has it own problems. Maybe do a double boot and start XP when you need to . . .
From an IT standpoint this is why many companies and people are not using Vista . . .
I know it is not the solution fo choice but it would work . . . .

Troubles with winmo 6

I have bought a htc tilt and I am wanting to dress up the today screen. I saw the retro clock and I downloaded it to my laptop, but I cannot seem to push it through to my cell phone. Any help would be appreciated, please.

RonaldQuint said:
I have bought a htc tilt and I am wanting to dress up the today screen. I saw the retro clock and I downloaded it to my laptop, but I cannot seem to push it through to my cell phone. Any help would be appreciated, please.
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if it's in a cab format than copy the cab to your device and install the cab from your device.

Send it over to your device from your commputer either throubh activesinc (when connected) or WIFI for those who have it, or Bluetooth.
Over Activesinc - Just connect device to computer (Assuming activesinc already installed and set up - if not then do so) then go to my computer, find mobile device and explore it as you would any drive. Then you can just find where you want to place the cab for installation on your device - I create a folder called install - and copy and paste it to the folder- once the cab is on your device - just tap on it to start installing it.
I have noticed that through WIFI, I can just go to view the shared folder on my desktop with my device over the network, click on the cab and it installs on the device even though the cab is not on the device but only on the desktop.

Thank you for the information. I cannot find cab. What does cab mean? This is my first all microsoft phone with vista laptop. I just don't understand the terms.

If I extract a cab file, what have I just done? Where is it at at that point? I know that eventually I want it on my phone. What is the next step toward delivery on the phone? When I check the windows mobile device center there is nothing there to import? to phone. Is there a missing step somewhere between the cabinet file extact and the windows mobile device center? I'm trying to think this through.

Don't extract it, just copy. You are "exporting" not importing.
Go here for how to install a cab

Exactly = Don't do anything with the cab except for transfer it to your device. On your desktop a cab looks like a zip file or a rar file. You might be tempted to unpack it but don't - All you will see is a bunch of stuff that doesn't make sense- Just send it to your device and then tap on it or click it to start installation. Most apps are in cab form; however, some are in exe form and must be installed to your device via your computer through activesinc. Just check the extension - it will either be .cab or .exe

I think I might have sent it to my phone, there were 6 files and when I attempted to send to my phone it said send to phone documents. Where is the phones documents at? I am looking in programs and settings on my phone and I don't see the documents. How can I know where I or if I sent it? Man, I can't believe I've worked all day on this.

stop thread please. I give up. Thank you all who really tried to help me.

Ronald Quint -Documents is in the first tier of folders - Just open file explorer and if you need to click the up soft key (bottom left of screen) then scroll until you see documents - There is also storage card documents if you search through your storage card. I created a special folder just for sending files over, and then move them around afterwards. I created a folder called "install" and send my cabs there. Then I just have to navigate (using file explorer) to the install folder and there is everything I just sent over - Music I send to my music folder however, and movies to my movies folder - to save time. It sounds like you unpacked the cab and sent the files to your device. What you can do is
1. using your computer - open the cab to see what is inside
2. using your device - use search to find each individual file which was sent to your device. (you will find them all in the same place)
then start deleting them
(you could just forget it and leave them be (it shouldn't cause any harm) and just resend the cab to your device (pay attention to where you are sending it. - use file explorer to navigate to where you sent the cab and then click it to install.. Once installed - you can delete the cab from your device.

Shortucts for non installed programs in TF3D program list

The programs tab in TF3D allows me to include already installed apps listed in program files and elsewhere. Some apps though, i have installed on my SD card but they arent listed in the program files because either i did a hard reset or some other reason, so without reinstalling them is there a way to include them in the programs list?
If not i suppose a reinstall is in order, some apps though are big and will take a little while to install.

You can create a shortcut to the wanted exe files and then put it in Windows\Start Menu\Programs.
Or, if you have Resco Explorer, you have an option to send file to Start Menu when press and hold on file.

Thanks will try this, hope it works

ifonz not working

When iFonz tries to launch, error: An unexpected error has occurred in iFonz.exe. Select quit and then restart this program. Details:
iFonz.exe TypeLoadException at
System.windows.forms.form.onload(eventArgs e)
at
System.windows.forms.form._setVisibleNotify(Boolea n fVis)
at
System.windows.forms.control.set_visible(boolean value)
at
System.windows.forms.application.run(form fm) at ifonz.ifonz.main()
Any help with this is much appreciated, thanks.
i need help with this. i really wanna get this working
::UPDATE::
i just installed version 1.0.4 and it worked?????? I cant change any settings though
i still want the new version if someone can help

because inbetween 1.0.4 and 1.1.2 you ned to upgrade to .netcf 3
most phones now come with .netcompact framework 2.0 but ifonz 1.1.2 need 3.5 to work install this and get back to me

i do have 3.5 installed.
on the ifonz thread, i put the framework from the first link on my phone(not the multilanguage one)
the link for ifonz is an exe (not cab) i have downloaded from a couple differnt links and its always a .zip file with ifonz.exe in it

the best way to do this is to go to program file and create a folder called ifoz and uzip the entire contents of the zip folder to it. and then creat a shortcut from the ifonz.exe and paste it ti windows/startmenu/programs
and then soft reset
when the fone boots up then go to start/programs/ifonz an it should work

create the ifonz folder on my phone or on pc?

ok, i made a folder on my pc called "ifonz"
i put that folder in my phone in "my documents"
now, it works but has some problems
when i go to settings, the save and cancel button are huge and i cant click on or scroll thru any of the settings options
and the battery meter, signal strenth, etc icons at the top are big so they are scrunced together and i cant read them??
plz help

what type of phone do you have?, and which version onf the app did you download vga or qvga
when you creat the ifonz folder it has to go in the phone/ theres a folder called program files it needs to go in here

I have an i760 with wm6
ill try putting it in that folder and see if it will work
i really appreciate the help btw

I just put it in that fol;der and its doing the same thing as in my above post
it looks like crap and i cant change settings

the i760 doesnt run on windows and isnt touchscreen so i take it you mean i780
what version did you download

i just checked to make sure. it is an i760 with WM6 and touchscreen
http://www.pocketpccentral.net/samsung_i760.htm
it is version 1.1.2 that im trying to get to work(ifonz)
i have tried that version and 1.0.4 and they both do the same thing
i have tried different downloads and i have uninstalled and reinstalled everything, and done soft resets. i just want this to work

did you download qvga or vga

Sorry
yes, i made sure it was qvga
all the info i looked at said this phone is qvga, correct?

correct now
after you have downloaded ifonz 1.1.2
make a folder in the phone called ifonz in the my device/program files
then unzip the contents of downloaded file into the newly created folder
then soft reset the go to file explorer and to to my device/program files/ifonz
tap and hold on ifonz.exe tap creat shortcut then go to the shortcut (it should apperar at the bottom of the folder
copy and paste it into /my device/windows/start menu/programs
soft reset
then once the phone has rebooted gp to start -> programs and click on the ifonz icon
this should now start ifonz

Well, ifonz starts and works now. Its just not right (large icons and can't change settings.) do you think doing it the way you said will fix the problem?

should do. mind you you caould always try vga version to see how it differs

Alright, thanks for the help. Im gonna have to wait till i get home and ill let you know if it works

no problem

it starts but still acts the same. the save and cancel button work in settings BTW

what other programs do you have running

Cab file downloadng?

Firstly apologies for the noob question, I'm still very new to this WinMo stuff. And secondly I've searched about the forum all day but still having problems....
I've just got an HD2 and wanting to put some of the tweaks on it I've found via this site. When downloaded on my PC I'm faced with 4 or so files, two or three perhaps starting with a 'cab' file name and the other a reg or set up file. Basically what do I then do with these files? With the phone conected via USB I went into the deice memory and dropped all the files into the memory, did a soft reset, but nothing happened, no extra feature etc. Phone just started up as normal. Sorry for my 'thickness' lol. Would welcome any advice or a pointer to somewhere where it may be already written.
Thanks.

Do not unzip the .cab place on phone and browse phone with File Explorer, click on the .cab and install to Device....
It's a common noob mistake as .cab's are compressed archives so look like .zips on computer....

Thanks for the quick reply, I'll give that a go....

after dropping them on the device you have to run them. Open File Explorer and just launch them from there. A setup will be launched usually.

Thanks for the above advice, worked a treat.

Well I've had no problem putting cab files onto my HD2, however now I want to remove a few of them. Not sure how to remove the actual thing that I've changed??? I go into the device memory and I can delete the cab itself but the 'change' still remains, such as new task bar icons etc.
Any help appreciated....

settings -> add remove programs
just like on a computer

Oh yes of course, makes sense now. Many thanks