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Questions about tethering on the galaxy s 4g

Hey guys, before I go searching this forum and possibly others I wanted to see of you guys can answer my questions. So far all the tethering apps in the marketplace you either have to pay for or don't do it right, I'm basically looking for a tethering/hot spot app to use this phone with my ipad 2,i had the hd2 before this phone and had the xda wifi sharing app which worked perfectly and basically turned my phone into a wifi source for my ipad. So if you guys can help me out with a free solution that would be great.

Um yeah, goto settings> wireless and network> Mobile Ap. It is part of the phone already. Or are you looking for something else?

dcam1075 said:
Um yeah, goto settings> wireless and network> Mobile Ap. It is part of the phone already. Or are you looking for something else?
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Thanks, I was a little nervous cause I read that they charge you for tethering so I didn't want to touch anything, is it true that tethering is an extra charge or do they just charge you extra if you go over your data cap cause if that's the case then I don't have nothing to worry about cause I have 4lines with unlimited Internet.

heres an app thats way better then the tmobilr installed wifi hotspot. you must have root access

jkiller122 said:
Thanks, I was a little nervous cause I read that they charge you for tethering so I didn't want to touch anything, is it true that tethering is an extra charge or do they just charge you extra if you go over your data cap cause if that's the case then I don't have nothing to worry about cause I have 4lines with unlimited Internet.
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No they do not charge you for thethering your phone to your laptop.
They however can charge you for going over you data cap.
TMobil has a Seperate service called "Mobile Broadband" that they charge extra for that is designed as a stand alone product for laptops ect. The Mobile Broadband services are not for tethering your phone.

SHAUN231 said:
heres an app thats way better then the tmobilr installed wifi hotspot. you must have root access
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Thanks for the app...
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To my knowledge t-mobile charges 15/mo for wireless mobile hotspot/tethering pack
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dtowngs4g said:
To my knowledge t-mobile charges 15/mo for wireless mobile hotspot/tethering pack
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T-Mobile doesnt charge for tethering. However they will throttle you if you go over your 5GB cap. I been using the stock tethering on my MT4G, Vibrant and Galaxy S and have never been charged for tethering.

I've got a troubleshooting question. I'm trying to tether my Galaxy S 4G phone to my laptop and for some reason it didn't install properly. I'm trying to fix it but the troubleshooting options in Windows is looking in their software update servers thinking it's there. Isn't the tethering device/driver in the phone?

You can tether up to 2 devices free, you can add 3 more for a total of 5 for 14.99/month. For somebody like me who has truly unlimited data and doesnt get throttled down, it works great.
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anti-up said:
You can tether up to 2 devices free, you can add 3 more for a total of 5 for 14.99/month. For somebody like me who has truly unlimited data and doesnt get throttled down, it works great.
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I've been confused about the tethering details; yet, when I signed up for service last month, I was told that I needed that plan. With your constraints, though, I thought that I might be paying unnecessarily for the tethering. I only have a single device connected to my phone -- a cradlepoint router. I only have one computer in my home. The router is for the purpose of connecting my printers into my intranet (which need not be on the internet)...
So, I called T-Mobile and was told that if ANY device other than the phone connects to the internet using the phone's features (as a modem-type device), then I am required to purchase the tethering option (which I do).
What sucks, though, is that I go over the 5GB threshhold... and while TMO can provide webConnect devices with up to a 10GB thresshold, we must change our device (Android device for a ZTE USB device) in order to get it.
BTW, the "unlimited" data plan does not mean "unlimited speed" data plan... yes, you can have "unlimited data"... but, after 5GB, you get throttled down... very slow!

[email protected] said:
I've been confused about the tethering details; yet, when I signed up for service last month, I was told that I needed that plan. With your constraints, though, I thought that I might be paying unnecessarily for the tethering. I only have a single device connected to my phone -- a cradlepoint router. I only have one computer in my home. The router is for the purpose of connecting my printers into my intranet (which need not be on the internet)...
So, I called T-Mobile and was told that if ANY device other than the phone connects to the internet using the phone's features (as a modem-type device), then I am required to purchase the tethering option (which I do).
What sucks, though, is that I go over the 5GB threshhold... and while TMO can provide webConnect devices with up to a 10GB thresshold, we must change our device (Android device for a ZTE USB device) in order to get it.
BTW, the "unlimited" data plan does not mean "unlimited speed" data plan... yes, you can have "unlimited data"... but, after 5GB, you get throttled down... very slow!
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So your saying that since I use my xbox 360 on live through my mobile AP on my phone that I will incur more charges?
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GDofWR420 said:
So your saying that since I use my xbox 360 on live through my mobile AP on my phone that I will incur more charges?...
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No, I am not saying that you will incur more charges... only saying that, if T-Mobile had their wishes, you would (according to their contracts and licenses) pay the additional $14.99 per month for tethering. As the rep told me, repeatedly, anytime you use "air" time with any device OTHER than the phone itself, you are required to pay the tether fees.
In my case, I pay those fees... (I did from the moment of the contract)... yet, once I have reached 5GB threshhold, I receive a text message advising me that -- since I have reached the 5GB threshhold -- my data connection (while being unlimited in number of GB) will be throttled until the end of my billing cycle.
So, unlimited data? Yes. Unlimited data at max speed? Absolutely not!
I am considering my options...

(T-Mobile US) What happens if you attempt to wifi tether using stock menu options?

So what happens if you set up wifi tethering and start using it without a tethering plan?
Do they know automatically or do they attempt to guess based on increases in data usage?
This would be using the menu options available to you under Network settings in STOCK (not rooted).

there no tethering plan with t-mobile you can wifi tether all you want. But if they do see that you're hitting your cap quickly lets say in a 3 month period. they'll text you if you want to upgrade.

when I was picking up my mt4gs, I overheard a rep trying to sell people an additional tethering plan. is that for unlimited tethering? I wanted to walk up to them and tell them I have been tethering since the G1 without any additional plan... the only real issue is getting throttled, but most months I don't hit the data cap.

pmcqueen said:
when I was picking up my mt4gs, I overheard a rep trying to sell people an additional tethering plan. is that for unlimited tethering? I wanted to walk up to them and tell them I have been tethering since the G1 without any additional plan... the only real issue is getting throttled, but most months I don't hit the data cap.
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Well the rep that sold me my MT4GS said that they don't throttle automatically. He had one customer use 200+GB before he was throttled. Apparently it's hit or miss anyway and he basically talked me into a lower data rate because of it.
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If you attempt to tether or do wi-fi sharing on any T-mobile phone that is capable of it one of four things will happen.. Either
A) it will fail...
B) Any browsing attempt will re-direct you to T-mobile.com
C) You will automatically get directed to a page that prompts you to call Customer care to add the $14.99/month Tethering and Wi-Fi sharing feature
D) It will allow you to browse a certain amount and then give you the above page.
The feature has to be on the account for tethering to work long term.. Even if you get away with it for a short time, eventually they will catch you and shut you off until you add the feature. The $14.99/month allows you to share whatever data is on your phone (2GB, 5GB, 10GB) with the phone and Tethering... SO... If you have the 5GB data plan, you get 5GB to share between tethering and your regular phone data usage, then speeds get slowed down to approx 100kbps after that until the bill cycle resets.

Like i told you before there is no tethering plan for t-mobile. My gf tether her phone with her iPad all the time. Nothing had happen so far.

Say that now, but I am guaranteeing you that T-mobile will catch up with her eventually.. There IS a tethering plan and you can call T-mobile and and verify that whenever you want.

Brock6949 said:
Say that now, but I am guaranteeing you that T-mobile will catch up with her eventually.. There IS a tethering plan and you can call T-mobile and and verify that whenever you want.
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I've been tethering since 2008 without a plan.
perhaps it has something to do with new data plans? I've had a grandfathered data plan for years.

pmcqueen said:
I've been tethering since 2008 without a plan.
perhaps it has something to do with new data plans? I've had a grandfathered data plan for years.
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Same and I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan that comes with unlimited texts for only $35. Been tethering forever.

I think he's just making it up. hahaha

A grandfathered plan may be the reason you are still able to tether, but I will tell you that I am a T-mobile employee who works in the phone as modem department and there IS a tethering plan that t-mobile does charge for... Infact, go to t-mobile's website and search for "Tethering" and then look at all of the official documents for tethering with different devices and they will all mention the tethering and wi-fi sharing feature.

Brock6949 said:
A grandfathered plan may be the reason you are still able to tether, but I will tell you that I am a T-mobile employee who works in the phone as modem department and there IS a tethering plan that t-mobile does charge for... Infact, go to t-mobile's website and search for "Tethering" and then look at all of the official documents for tethering with different devices and they will all mention the tethering and wi-fi sharing feature.
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I tethered my Touch Pro 2 a few times after they introduced tethering and nothing ever became...

rorytmeadows said:
I tethered my Touch Pro 2 a few times after they introduced tethering and nothing ever became...
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A few times may not have been enough for you to get the message... There is a preset threshold you have to meet or exceed to get the message about the tethering plan.. THey have not told any of us what that threshold is (for obvious reasons)
and even if you don't get the message right away, at some point our system will flag the account... Trust me, I field these calls 5 days a week.

Brock6949 said:
A few times may not have been enough for you to get the message... There is a preset threshold you have to meet or exceed to get the message about the tethering plan.. THey have not told any of us what that threshold is (for obvious reasons)
and even if you don't get the message right away, at some point our system will flag the account... Trust me, I field these calls 5 days a week.
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So how can they tell that it's tethering data vs. data from the phone? Especially since I can set my browser to desktop mode. Well, I'm too lazy to do it but if tethering ever goes to court, service providers will lose.
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There is no way to tell between tethering and phone data... it's all lumped together... even when you add the tethering feature (if the system makes you) you get your data shared with your cell data usage so on a non grandfathered rate plan you get 2gb,5gb, or 10gb to share between tethering and phone data usage.

Brock6949 said:
There is no way to tell between tethering and phone data... it's all lumped together... even when you add the tethering feature (if the system makes you) you get your data shared with your cell data usage so on a non grandfathered rate plan you get 2gb,5gb, or 10gb to share between tethering and phone data usage.
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So tethering won't get caught...
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HTTP traffic is TCP which means it's encoded in ASCII which makes it really easy to scan what goes over the line. In those HTTP headers they can check what the user-agent is as well as the time-to-live setting on each packet which will be different from a windows desktop connection.
However it's possible to mask this. I could in theory make an SSH connection from the phone to an SSH server I have on the internet and tunnel all my tethering through that. It would be very difficult to prove tethering at that point because it would be masked behind the phone's connection to a server.
That all being said. In real world usage I might only tether once or twice a month in what basically amounts to not much more bandwidth usage then normal.
Also. The telecom providers are very backhanded about tethering. We made tethering possible before they knew what the **** tethering even meant. I've been doing this since before most people understood what it means to tether. And I signed up for my unlimited plan back when unlimited meant unlimited. So uh..... T-mo can go **** itself if they expect me to pay extra. lol.
-my 2 cents

Akujin said:
We made tethering possible before they knew what the **** tethering even meant. I've been doing this since before most people understood what it means to tether. And I signed up for my unlimited plan back when unlimited meant unlimited. So uh..... T-mo can go **** itself if they expect me to pay extra. lol.
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YES!
Tethered on my MDA before I even used the word!

Theoretically based on some of the statements here of how PC band with flows, I should be able to tether my Acer A500 tablet without any problems or discovery.
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[q] at&t new data charges for tethering

I'm grand fathered in to the AT&T Unlimited Data plan $30 extra a month. I just received a letter telling me that due to my tethering usage, they will automatically enroll me into a 4GB monthly tethering plan and add extra charges. It doesn't make sense to have an unlimited data plan if you can't use it for tethering. You've paid for the data so what difference does it make if you use it for tethering.
Any feedback would be well appreciated and also if there is any app that can mask the tethering mode of your device so they think its only the device using the data.

This thread again??

studacris said:
This thread again??
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Lol I know right.
I am not amused by your phones performance

This has been covered too many times to count in the past few months. Bottom line is read your TOS. Unlimited data was started for the business user that had to use alot of data while away from his PC. Not for the person wanting to tether.
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Tethering

If I use this rom HyperNonSense-v2.4 is tethering free or will I have to pay for it.

It should be free up to a point. Now what tat point is is really up to your carrier. If you are T-Mobile USA it will be free as long as you do not surpass the 2 GIG or 5 GIG soft cap you have depending on your data plan. But if you go over the soft cap the will try to make you pay extra for tethering. Now as far as other carriers go I can not give you any info on them as I am not familiar with any other carrier's policy.

T-Macgnolia said:
It should be free up to a point. Now what tat point is is really up to your carrier. If you are T-Mobile USA it will be free as long as you do not surpass the 2 GIG or 5 GIG soft cap you have depending on your data plan. But if you go over the soft cap the will try to make you pay extra for tethering. Now as far as other carriers go I can not give you any info on them as I am not familiar with any other carrier's policy.
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Well I have T-Mobile USA and I figured if I went over 2 gb they would just slow my internet down instead of charge me.

ruffrider5956 said:
Well I have T-Mobile USA and I figured if I went over 2 gb they would just slow my internet down instead of charge me.
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Yes the will throttle/ slow your internet down bit if you do it more then onscreen they will probably monitor your device and see you are tethering and then notify you that you should purchase the tethering service (which just gives you more data). Now after this notification they will probably continue to monitor your de ice and after you continue to tether they will probably hit you with a tethering fee.
But do not worry too much as I used my HD2 for months as my home internet connection and barely e Dr got close to using 2 GIGs of data. Then again though I do not have 3g or 4g service at my home either so it would have been hard for me to use so much data tethering. So my best advice is to heavily monitor your data usage and not go over. Also if you get a notification via text message or other means from T-Mobile about tethering I would hold off on tethering for a little while.

Ok thanks for the advice. How do they actually know your tethering?

ruffrider5956 said:
Ok thanks for the advice. How do they actually know your tethering?
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I think they monitor the IP addresses or some how monitor your device for other devices connected to it or something. I read about it like a your or more back and can not really remember.

T-Macgnolia said:
I think they monitor the IP addresses or some how monitor your device for other devices connected to it or something. I read about it like a your or more back and can not really remember.
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dang sneaky son of a guns lol alright thanks for your help.

yeah this happened to me last august. I started doing alot of tethering, i quickly went over my 5gb and was throttled down to a crawl. The next billing cycle i was tethering again and even before i got to my 5gb limit, any website that i tried to goto would be redirected to a tmobile site telling me i have to sign up for a tethering plan to continue to tether.

el7145 said:
yeah this happened to me last august. I started doing alot of tethering, i quickly went over my 5gb and was throttled down to a crawl. The next billing cycle i was tethering again and even before i got to my 5gb limit, any website that i tried to goto would be redirected to a tmobile site telling me i have to sign up for a tethering plan to continue to tether.
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So, did u sign up or have a work around?

galaxys said:
So, did u sign up or have a work around?
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no never needed to get a work around bc i signed back up for home internet a couple weeks later...they were charging $15/month for their tethering plan which i think is real good considering the price of home cable internet. Of course this tethering plan would only be good for basic web browsing

TMobile: Anyway to use/tether the data for free?

Right now I'm on the 2.5g data plan. I wanted to use and or tether past that but don't want to spend a world. Is there an apps that can do that? I heard FoxFi can but so far it's eating my data. I kinda miss Sprint Unlimited data

micrapple said:
Right now I'm on the 2.5g data plan. I wanted to use and or tether past that but don't want to spend a world. Is there an apps that can do that? I heard FoxFi can but so far it's eating my data. I kinda miss Sprint Unlimited data
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Wireless tether router is working miracles. They made it compatible and its amazing. Doesnt increase your tethering data at all. It cost a few bucks though

pda net will work if you use usb tethering, i have been using it for the past two months with no issues.

Can the tethering (free tethering) be done w/out rooting the phone?