Palm Treo Pro notification customizations - Touch Pro, Fuze General

I recently ditched my Treo Pro for a Fuze, couldn't get around that 320x320 screen anymore.
One thing I miss, though, is that the Treo could assign separate MP3 ring tones to email versus texts or SMS, and could differentiate between Known (in Contacts) callers and unknown and give them separate ringtones. My Fuze doesn't appear to do this. I can assign separate sounds to emails, but none of my custom MP3 appear in the list. There isn't selection for Known callers at all.
I tried searching for custom cabs on the Treo, but nothing in the obvious places. Isn't there supposed to be a text file listing where the programs to install are so that manufacturer/provider customizations can run after a hard reset? Where would that be located? I want to see if the Palm customizations will work on another device.
thanks for any help.

The Mp3s need to be located in My Device\My Documents\My Ringtones
They will then appear in all the selections

And if memory is an issue, and want to use the memory card, create a folder called
My Ringtones on the memory card, and put em there...

That's actually where I keep the MP3s, still no dice for email notification. All the default ringers are there, none of my customs.
I use almost every one of the same customs from the same folder for contact ringtones and they work.
I miss HAL telling me there's a message for me....
What about separate ringtones for Known versus unknown callers? I just booted up the Treo again to make sure I wasn't nuts and it can definitely do that.

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MortRing - ringtones and SMS sounds per contacts/category

Here's another program in the style of RingtoneX and Caller-ID.
Magician users might already know it, because I started telling about it here. But I think it's a bit too well hidden there, and I'd like to know if it works on other devices as well...
Ringtones seem to work fine on MDAc with a reasonable number of contacts, while I've got a feedback it doesn't work on an MDA II with over 500 contacts. I don't know whether it's because of the device or the number of contacts, so just try if it works for you, and give me some feedback...
SMS notification sounds should work on all devices, but it might need a soft reset to activate the messaging plug-in. This plug-in can be used by other programmers as well: If you create a registry key with <window title>=<window handle> (as DWord) in HKLM\Software\Mort\SMSNotify\Windows, you'll receive a WM_COPYDATA with a string containing "SMS\n<sender>\n<text>" whenever an SMS comes in...
Oh, btw: As all my other programs, this will remain free, but I gratefully accept PayPal donations to [email protected]...
Hi Mort,
would you be so kind to upload some screenshots of your application? I would like to see, how the program's gui is done.
TIA,
BGK
Here you are...
Don't expect too much, it's been made to work for me, not to look pretty...
The call and sms popups are not modified, i.e. the one of Windows is used. I only replace the registry entry for the ringtone resp. sms notification sound...
Your App is great! Are there any changes to Ver. 0.5?
Bubisch said:
Are there any changes to Ver. 0.5?
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The SMS sound is reset a second after the notification was handled and on exit, so it won't set the most recently used one as default on next startup.
Addionally, there are now three "pseudo" categories for all other numbers: contacts without assigned number (either direct or by category), unknown numbers, and calls with supressed numbers. The sounds for these categories are set to the currently used ones as defaults until the category settings are saved.
Mort, you are just GREAT!
Thanks 8)
It is really amazing specially changin SMS tone :shock: .... Keep it up.... I hope if you could....:
- Include all rings under Windows folder and sub folders cause there is no need to copy all tones in /Windows to /Windows/Rings...
- The ability to set Tones in Storage Card.
- The ability to listen to the Tone before setting it.
- The ability to view the Recent Caller Name not only number...
I will keep testing it and let you know ASAP ... Waiting for your next release , do not be late :wink: ...
alkandery75 said:
It is really amazing specially changin SMS tone :shock:
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In fact, the SMS tone even was more easy to achieve...
- Include all rings under Windows folder and sub folders cause there is no need to copy all tones in /Windows to /Windows/Rings...
- The ability to set Tones in Storage Card.
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Both of this is not possible as such, because the Windows call program doesn't support paths in the used registry values. (That's why RingtoneX copies the files of other folders to \Windows\Rings...)
But can can modify the path for the ringtones in the registry. It's stored in the Value "Directory" of HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring. MortRing uses this value, too (because I use \Storage\Ring).
But currently, MortRing will list ALL contained files of this directory, as I didn't want to limit it too much. Thus, setting it to \Windows would make choosing a ringtone taking quite a while...
The ability to listen to the Tone before setting it.
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Currently, all I could do would be opening the file, so it's played by WMP or the "Pictures" application (which also plays MMF, MID, and some other audio codecs...). I don't know of a simple way to play anything but WAV directly in my app.
- The ability to view the Recent Caller Name not only number...
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Technically, that would be no problem, but I think the default "missed calls" list is far better for this. The output's mostly for debugging reasons anyway...
Guys, the most sophisticated gadget I ever had prior to owning the Magician is a Sony Ericsson P800. Judging by how confused I am with the Magician's set message alert tone / ringtone capability as it is now, kindly explain, as you would explain it to a child, how Mort's program works.
Thanks!
casper131 said:
Guys, the most sophisticated gadget I ever had prior to owning the Magician is a Sony Ericsson P800. Judging by how confused I am with the Magician's set message alert tone / ringtone capability as it is now, kindly explain, as you would explain it to a child, how Mort's program works.
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After installation, the program's in the autostart folder. After a soft reset, you'll see a tray icon that looks like a cell phone.
If you tap this icon, a popup menu appears. The most important entries are "Contacts" and "Categories".
In "Categories" you can assign ring- and sms tones to the contact categories. If a contact has multiple categories, the order of the list in this dialog is used. I.e., if a contact has both "Private" and "Friends", it will take the "Friends" settings if it's in the list prior to "Private".
In "Contacts" you can assign ring- and sms tones to single contacts, thus overriding the category settings. The currently used category ringtone (or "*other contacts*") is shown there if no specific contact ringtone is set. To remove a contact ringtone (and this way restoring the category setting), press the fitting "X" button ("X"=remove). It's only activated if a contact ringtone's assigned.
Its really a great program, very simple to use, and not complicated at all 8)
Thanks for the great work, Mort
What you've done is really something cool 8)
Hmmm so after 500 contacts we should start deleting HAHAHHA I think this is not such a big issue and with your skill you'll probably figure it out. So the best of luck Mort. Great App... BTW I am using v0.5d with 445 Contacts
Hey Mort
This is a great program.
I am using it on my XDA Mini and it's so much better than the CallID program that comes with the phone.
Good work.
Mort you are great.
I now use this, MortSaver and MortPlayer!
Whats the latest version of MortSaver by the way?
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Whats the latest version of MortSaver by the way?
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b32.
It now uses the SMS notification of MortRing, which should improve stability in this area a lot...
Mort,
Great idea, and certainly easier to use than Photo Contacts. Only issue I've noticed on my Mini is that MortRing does not show certain people in Contacts list (in MortRing), and the ring tone seems to be incorrect during the call (it uses one a few categories down), whereas it is correct in the Contact list. I have under 300 contacts, but some may have multiple entries, which may cause it to exceed 500 I suppose.
Any fixes?
BTW, you don't by any chance have an offspring named Susan, do you?
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Only issue I've noticed on my Mini is that MortRing does not show certain people in Contacts list (in MortRing),
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That's strage... Are they shown if you "Search" them?
and the ring tone seems to be incorrect during the call (it uses one a few categories down), whereas it is correct in the Contact list.
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If the correct one is shown in the "Recent call" message of MortRing (popup menu), it's probably the timing problem. I don't have a good and working solution for that currently... It seems like the only way would be to kill and restart the system's call program, but that's quite risky - if something goes wrong, you won't notice the call at all...
BTW, you don't by any chance have an offspring named Susan, do you?
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Not in RL...
hey is it possible to update this program so it does not unload itself from memory everytime i launch another program or run a backup (stop processes option is turned off). having to restart the option manually is frustrating.
i have a PDA2K with 30 MB free with Rom 1.40
Eddieh31 said:
hey is it possible to update this program so it does not unload itself from memory everytime i launch another program or run a backup (stop processes option is turned off). having to restart the option manually is frustrating.
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In theory, it shouldn't be stopped as it is. Either something's going wrong on your system, or your free memory is very small...
Are you sure it's really unloaded? Hidden windows aren't shown in most task lists. As long as the tray icon is visible and works, all is fine...
Anyway, here's a version which ignores WM_CLOSE, which should help in most "automatically closed" cases.
It also includes another approach to use lineSetAppPriority. Please tell me whether it works or if you get additional "unknow" entries in the call history again...
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PH said:
Only issue I've noticed on my Mini is that MortRing does not show certain people in Contacts list (in MortRing),
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That's strage... Are they shown if you "Search" them?
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Yes, they show up in a search, but not in list.
Mort said:
and the ring tone seems to be incorrect during the call (it uses one a few categories down), whereas it is correct in the Contact list.
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If the correct one is shown in the "Recent call" message of MortRing (popup menu), it's probably the timing problem. I don't have a good and working solution for that currently... It seems like the only way would be to kill and restart the system's call program, but that's quite risky - if something goes wrong, you won't notice the call at all...
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No, the recent call list the wrong tone as well. The funny thing is that it's a tone that is use for a totally different category; if it had not been recognised, it would have played a different tune.

Distinctive SMS tones

Hello,
I am using the Treo750 with MW6.
I am trying to locate some software that will allow me to set up distinctive ring tones for SMS messages. It would be even better if the program let me organize my text messages - like to sort them into baskets, etc. depending from where they come? But the distinctive ring tones is a must.
I tried Pro contacts but so far have not got it to work for me.
Any help appreciated.
Gary

Ringtones and registry questions

Hey all,
1. Just got a Fuze a few days ago. I was able to get it to recognize my own ringtones, but I don't see them when I look at the menu for notifications such as text messages, emails, etc. Does anyone happen to know how I get my ringtones to come up on that drop down menu? I'm sure it's just a question of putting things in the right folder.
2. Is there a registry editor that works well on a Fuze? On my Q I used to use RegEditSTG. Will that still work?
Thanks guys!
for the msgs and stuff they get the rings from the windows folder.
Rings folder
It happened to be that ALL ringtones, alarms & alert tones are duplicated under the "Rings" folder which of course eats up some space out of your memory and I do not understand why have they done this if the default is "Windows" folder?!
tinpanalley said:
1. Just got a Fuze a few days ago. I was able to get it to recognize my own ringtones, but I don't see them when I look at the menu for notifications such as text messages, emails, etc. Does anyone happen to know how I get my ringtones to come up on that drop down menu? I'm sure it's just a question of putting things in the right folder.
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I don't know about getting your old ringtones to work, but if you ever you need new ones, I suggest MP3 trimmer. You can drag and drop whatever songs you would like to change to a ringtone onto your fuze, open the song with MP3 trimmer, and choose the start/stop times. It will then save that file as a proper ringtone, in the proper file.
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2. Is there a registry editor that works well on a Fuze?
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Yes, Total Commander, it's very intuitive.

Different ringtone for different contacts?

Is there a way to assign different ringtone sounds to different contacts?
Or any recommendation of a program that does that?
I read that Photo Contacts Pro is a bit buggy,
Open a contact...
Choose "Edit Contact"...
Choose "Ringtone"...
Et voila!
Not sure about the exact wording of the sequence, as I have the danish ROM.
You should also mention that the above method does not work for simcontacts, Only for contacts stored on the device.
thats great!thanks you all.I tried it and it works!
The MP3 Trimmer program is also a blast.Makes making mp3 ringtones & sms mp3 tones a breeze.

[Q] Noob Coming over from Blackbery needs Help

Hello:
On my old Blackberry 9700 each contact has a separate ringtone for the phone number and their email address.
Is it possible to have separate ringtones for someone's phone an email address on the Skyrocket without putting a separate entry in the contact for each one?
If there is a way can someone enlighten this noob?
Thanks.
Spring
Download the app on the market called ringdroid its free. It will also allow u to use any music you have downloaded as a ringtone. And lets u choose how long the ringtone is, and what parts of songs u want to use
Thanks silver03wrx.
Ringdroid sounds like a ringtone making app.
I have the ringtones on the sd card. I just don't see a way to use separate tones for a single contacts phone number and a different tone for their email address without entering a separate contact for the phone number and another for the email address in my contacts. A lost of extra work.
I like to know when someone is calling me or emailing me. I can then choose to answer right away or not.
Spring
Ringdroid does allow you to assign a ringtone to a specific contact look at the attached picture
Yeah i dont think that allows you to seperate the email sound for the same contact though
Hi Silver:
I don't think it does either because I have CNN updates in the contacts with an email address along with a certain ringtone assigned to it & every time an update comes over it plays the default email tone.
This is a bummer because I like to know when family emails me since we're so far apart. Had each one of the siblings on a different tone so I knew right away who it was.
I guess blackberry will always have everyone beat when it comes to handling emails with ringtones.
Thanks for trying Silver.
Spring.
Try WhoIsIt in the market place. I think it might do what you want.
Hello:
Whoisit didn't get very good reviews.
I also found Enhanced SMS & Caller ID, and Ringo Pro out there that might bridge the gap. Gonna do more research tomorrow morning.
Thanks all.
Spring
I understand your frustration, I am also a former 9700 user. The thing I miss most is the centralized Sound Profiles, it's hard / impossible afaik to have profiles setup which will in turn change the alerts and notifications for all installed apps collectively.
Hi Promise:
I'm using Ringo Pro right now. It will ring a tone for phone calls & msgs.
Haven't found anything safe that will do different tones per contact for all three yet.
Will keep looking.
Spring

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