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I'm quite pissed.
Before Windows Mobile 2005, HTC did not make their camera API public, so developers could not make use of the camera.
This all changed with WM2005 and the introduction of DirectShow. For devices released in the first year (since release of WM2005), this meant that one could "simply" use DirectShow to access the cameras.
But then HTC fell back to old habits again:
The HTC TyTN (Hermes) reports only a single video mode via DirectShow: 160x120 at 7.5 fps, which is a joke. Furthermore, trying to access the front camera via DirectShow fails too: It is simply not exposed (enumerated) at all.
The HTC Mteor (Breeze) goes even one step furher: It does report 160x120 and 320x240 (both at 15 fps), but actually both modes deliver pictures at 160x120. For the 320x240 mode, everything seems to work fine: IMediaSample tells that the picture is in that resolution. The memory buffer has the correct size (320x240x12bits), but the image in the buffer is really just 160x120.
Of course I tried several ROM versions (HTC, i-mate, etc.) but no chance.
So, I'm quite pissed. I already tried calling HTC but didn't get very far (which makes sense if these restrictions are on purpose...)
Daniel
No comments on this?
Nobody every using DirectShow?
I guess I also wouldn't do it if I wasn't force to...
Daniel
So with simple words if you want to use WM5 camera api in your application you can not do it in any HTC device
So how did the makers of CoolCamera go about? I was kinda under the impression that it used wm5s camera api, or am I wrong?
I think they've rewritten the interface from scratch. Look into the CPU developers' manuals. Not a small endevour!
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CPU Developers' manual
Hi Vijay555,
Would you be so kind to post a link to where I can get this manual ?
Thanks in advance!
I don't think anyone wrote anything from scratch nor do I think this has much to do with a CPU manual... the devs at CoolCamera may have *somehow* managed to get their hands on the infamous HTC TyTN camera api... what exactly are you referring to when you mention the CPU manual?
Also, has anyone ever found a location where this api may be available or a means to get it? HTC developer support is non existant.
Eric, what makes you so sure that they didn't write it from scratch? Maybe they did acquire illegally or otherwise HTC's intellectual property, or maybe they just did what other manfacturers do and wrote some code.
Look at the device support - it's not a single device, it's many, across many different CPUs (Intel, Omap, Samsung), across many different camera sensors and support chips. However, implementation of a camera at software level is not impossible: how else do companies sell their sensors and chipsets?
http://www.ovt.com
Ask the sensor manufacturer, they'll give you chips specs, schematics, implementation code and draft driver code.
Then, look up the SC32442A developers' manual and you'll see that it encompasses a camera interface, again with necessary schematics and hardware IO information.
Sure it's hard to write a camera interface, but once you've written one, it gets easier to support others.
V
they need to continue writing then because my camera application frequently fails in that pictures are corrupt, can't be viewed, and the picture review is just black
Sure it's hard to write a camera interface, but once you've written one, it gets easier to support others.
V
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What kind of effort are we talking about here? Days? Weeks? Do you think this would need to run in kernel space, or we could get away with user space?
Pocketable mobile internet terminal integrating
mobile phone, GPS and laptop computer into one * 4.8' touch screen;
* VGA output to 1920 * 1200 resolution;
* Keyboard: Double-thumb input greatly improves your speed to write a message or e-mail, which is more than 3 times faster than normal mobile phone input. After a period of use, your touch typing speed on xpPhone can reach up to 90% of that on a desktop computer;
* Input method: xpPhone supports 5-stroke input, Google Chinese Pinyin input method and etc. Standard Specification(Configuration) *CPU： AMD Super Mobile CPU
* Memory：512M/1G
* SSD: 8G/16G/32G/64G
* HDD：30G/60G/80G/120G
* LCD: 4.8' TFT Touch-screen LCD 800*480
* Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP
* Network：GSM/GPRS/EDGE/WCDMA (HSDPA/HSUPA)
CDMA/CDMA2000 1X/CDMA1X EVDO,TD-SCDMA，TD-HSDPA
* Wireless：WiFi 802.11b/g,WiMax(optional),Buletooth,Stand-alone GPS
* Camera Specifications:CMOS, 300k/1.3 Million
* Ports:1 x earphone jack,1 x microphone jack,Docking Connector
(include VGA output signal ),1 x USB 2.0, SIM Slot
* Power Management:
Battery: Removable Lithium-ion
Talk time: about 5 hours,Stand by time: about 5 days
Real life: about 7 hours(Standard), about 12 hours(Large)
Talk time，Standby time，Operation time may vary depending different usage.
* Weight: 400g (include battery)
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/23/xpphone-7-phone-shows-off-browsing-over-3g.aspx
(vid)
http://www.xpphone.com/en/product/functions.html
where can i buy this? dont care about the price. I WANT THIS
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where can i buy this? dont care about the price. I WANT THIS
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IDK havn't heard anything else about this!
Anyone know anything?
There are several news on this phone on Engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/xpphone-teased-with-specs-and-pictures-makes-windows-xp-young-a/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/itg-xpphone-shown-off-in-green-and-yes-you-can-have-a-differen/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/itgs-windows-xp-loving-xpphone-now-accepting-pre-orders-worldwi/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/itg-xpphone-seen-powering-up-on-video/
but no news on price yet.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/23/xpphone-7-phone-shows-off-browsing-over-3g.aspx
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meh
been following that for a while. it sounds great but i'll believe it wheb i see it. it has been rumored to have lots of upgrade options including ssd drives and even win7
Something like this is the viliv s5, a few versions have a voice capable 3g modem, but there is no built in mic, so you would need bluetooth or something. My guess on this for the cpu would be an amd geode, but they may have stopped making those
Great device, but battery life doesn't look promising... I would still like to buy one if it wouldn't cost too much. But what on earth is AMD super mobile CPU ?! I need a thing to play GTA vice city, not less
Wow you really brought an almost year old thread back from the dead?
well. yes, but that device is going to be released only now, so this topic is not outdated. I have contacted their sales manager, and this what they say:
1."Graphical processor hardware: LX800. You can use graphical software as notebook PC."
2. "The AMD CPU is customized from AMD, it's quick, and you can try later." (it made everything really clear )
it's on sale right now. My question is how does one activate it on verizon? It lists CDMA for being supported.
http://en.xpphone.com/product/product.html
I want one. But would like to know what kind of touch screen is has. And a speed test as well.
could be awesome to have the OS on HD2
WAUW. IT does say that it can run WINDOWS 7 - AWESOME. Would love to hear if anyone have tried this Super Phoney
It looks nice!
Hope anybody can give a review
I searched on youtube and found some information about it,although they are good but not enough to understand how it is in action.
I'm waiting for a good review , too
please share your experiance of using this great phone if you got any
please tell me also is there any difference between embedded and normal version of windows?
I mean if I have a normal windows XP CD for my PC can I install it on this phone?
ResurrectionTime
xpPhone 2 Windows 8
http://en.xpphone.com/news/kuaibao/114.html
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I searched on youtube and found some information about it,although they are good but not enough to understand how it is in action.
I'm waiting for a good review , too
please share your experiance of using this great phone if you got any
please tell me also is there any difference between embedded and normal version of windows?
I mean if I have a normal windows XP CD for my PC can I install it on this phone?
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I dared to order a xpphone so i can answer your questions now:
The embedded XP is a real windows, it gives the device-producer the possibility to leave functions out of the system that are not needed in this special case. So you can install a normal windows on this device. Sadly ITG does not provide any separate drivers, so with a normal XP you would not be able to use internal components of the device that need their own drivers.
Short summary: device and customer care are VERY disappointing if you try to use it as an all-day-phone. Please see also my comment here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503531
Hello,
I am an Industrial designer and part of implementing a product is some good groundwork. Therefor i am doing research regarding functionalities of current tablets and user needs,
I am hoping to get some inside information on XDA from some veteran tableteers. I consider you guys as early adopters and that is excactly what my target group is
I am working for a client who which uses the keywords; simplify, iconic, bold, rebels. There current portfolio consists of a phone with only one function; calling. The phone is therefor cheap, but it also make a statement 'look how cool i am with this simple phone'.
I want to design the next product for that company, in my case a tablet. To fit the current product portfolio the tablet needs to be as iconic as the phone. So simplifing everything to the basic needs of users, therefor it also makes a statement.
Products which are currently 'on the market' which are some inspiration for me are;
Wacom inkling
Sorry cant post links yet..
Noteslate(not yet on the market)
Sorry cant post links yet..
Boogie board
Sorry cant post links yet..
Part of being iconic and making a statement in my POV is bringing back the blackboard feeling with the squeeky finger due to the chalk. Combining the 'paper feel' with electronics; this is also what the company prefers.
first mock-up(excuse me for the quality)
Sorry cant post links yet..
I think the main feature of this tablet will be notetaking and drawing, including a mail service and maby an agenda. You can add or subtract functions. The focus will therefor be in the business market and perhaps for in class during lectures.
One focus lays on personalizing the tablet. Like you would do know with your paper notebook, making drawings and it feels yours. Where tablets know are being handled with care you are not personally bonding with the device. I am thinking of features where you can add your own gestures for turning on the device (like your autograph) and drawing an envelop around something will automatticaly mail it.
Finally my first questions for you guys (im hoping to asking more in the future);
1. Which functions do you use most on current tablets
2. Will you buy a tablet with these limited amount of functions, and what would you pay
3. If you own an tablet, would you see yourself using it as an personal agenda and notetaker, why and why not?
4. Do you see the monochrone screen as a negative or positive, why would you prefer a colour screen (if outcome was negative)
5. How do you currently personalize a) your tablet and b) your notebook/agenda/phone etc. Outside and inside
6. what size would you prefer?
Any feedback will be welcome, also criticism (constructive) is very welcome.
I am currently just in the research stage, but chances are this product actually hitting the market.
Thanks very much in advance for your time, im hoping for some great feedback!
greets, Kars Rotteveel
Kars.R said:
Finally my first questions for you guys (im hoping to asking more in the future);
1. Which functions do you use most on current tablets
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Does features count as functions ?
2. Will you buy a tablet with these limited amount of functions, and what would you pay
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I would pay around $960 for a full-fledged tablet , since I'm 15
3. If you own an tablet, would you see yourself using it as an personal agenda and notetaker, why and why not?
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There is a possibility that I might use it for note-taking because of its portability
4. Do you see the monochrone screen as a negative or positive, why would you prefer a colour screen (if outcome was negative)
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What's with the monochrome ? I'd prefer a colour screen because it makes the tablet experience more pleasant .
5. How do you currently personalize a) your tablet and b) your notebook/agenda/phone etc. Outside and inside
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a) Tablet:
-Bigger than 6' but smaller than 15'
-Uses a touchscreen
-Does not have any physical keyboard
-Allows native HSDPA and/or 4G internet access
-Has 2 cameras , one at the back and the other at the front .
-A decent processor of approx. 1Ghz
-A roundy + square-ish look (like the Xoom)
-Physical buttons instead of touch-sensitive buttons
b)Notebook (as in the electronic device):
-Has a processor speed of at least 1.5Ghz
-Has at least 512MB of RAM
-Runs either Windows , Mac , Linux , Ubuntu or Fedora .
-Has USB ports (duhhhhh)
-Allows multiboot
-Has a front-facing webcam .
-Optional touchscreen support with both virtual and physical keyboard + mouse
-The usual notebook design (the flap style)
-Larger than 11' but smaller than 20'
6. what size would you prefer?
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I mentioned that when I answered question 5
Hope that I helped you......
Sorry if I didn't help.....
Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
Production of this Android Smart Ring can start soon as soon as some Big Device manufacturer lays his eyes on this ( I mean when he/she gets to know about this project ). Hopefully Google should be attracted towards this
The Android Smart Ring is an inspired device from smart-watches but has an unique Design,Specifications and can do beyond possibilities.
Watch Video HERE
I am an College Student who got this project Idea. I just want to give this project a Go and see if I can make it a success. I wanna give people a whole new experience of Technology. It's a unique Idea which has never been done, if previously it's done then that must be not as good as this one. The Android Smart Ring features a curved 720p display, Bluetooth v4.0, NFC, High Clarity Speakers, Microphone, powered by 1GHz processor, 512MB RAM, couple of required sensors, has Transistors (acting as a battery which requires no charging) and this ring runs on Android KitKat (or) Android Wear (in near future).
Keep Sharing this Idea and let each and every men know about it. Help me making this Idea an reality Thanks for all your support in advance.
I don't think I understand how you intend to incorporate a 720 P display on a small ring along with a whole bunch of other hardware
I don't think we have hardware capabilities to make your idea feasible at this point
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thesparky007 said:
I don't think I understand how you intend to incorporate a 720 P display on a small ring along with a whole bunch of other hardware
I don't think we have hardware capabilities to make your idea feasible at this point
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What this dude says is true. It's only possible if you created a time travelling machine and travel to the future and retrieve the techology from there, now this is definitely a viable and possible option for you homie.
Okay.. Wait a min. So, you guys think that this isn't possible. Let me tell you one thing, you must have heard about Phonebloks, right ? Was it possible back then ? Hell no, now Google has taken the project and made it possible. So, nothing is impossible
I would think scale down what you are expecting out of it, maybe not 720P display. Start small, and work your way up. See if you can get a working prototype first even with a basic display that might be small, because 720P is quite a big ask for what I would imagine to be a very small device.
Analyse it from every possible angle and lens you can think of. Here are some examples to start you off: Technical ability of construction, marketing, corporate usage, end user.
Here are some examples:
Technical:
Start trying to see if you can get electronic components small enough to even complete something like this first. If you can, what's the limit available today? Maybe you can't get a speaker small enough, so you work around not having that. Work out where your limits are.
Then let's say with marketing: Who are you trying to sell it to? How can you convince them to buy it? Does it provide any perceived value (not necessarily actual value), or will people see it as an expensive paperweight?
Corporate usage: Could you display advertisements on it without being too intrusive from general functions? Could it be used in a corporate setting, add any value to business running?
End user: Will it be comfortable and easy to use throughout every phase including charging, or would it overheat and cause discomfort? Will it last? Can it be adjusted to suit the needs of people (e.g. different finger sizes).
Give this a thought, and work out if you can provide solutions to every aspect, and identify potential problems BEFORE you even hit the market. You wouldn't want to go through extreme difficulty to process and manufacture it, and in the end it flops badly because of overpriced/poor quality, or maybe simply nobody wants one.
thedeejay said:
I would think scale down what you are expecting out of it, maybe not 720P display. Start small, and work your way up. See if you can get a working prototype first even with a basic display that might be small, because 720P is quite a big ask for what I would imagine to be a very small device.
Analyse it from every possible angle and lens you can think of. Here are some examples to start you off: Technical ability of construction, marketing, corporate usage, end user.
Here are some examples:
Technical:
Start trying to see if you can get electronic components small enough to even complete something like this first. If you can, what's the limit available today? Maybe you can't get a speaker small enough, so you work around not having that. Work out where your limits are.
Then let's say with marketing: Who are you trying to sell it to? How can you convince them to buy it? Does it provide any perceived value (not necessarily actual value), or will people see it as an expensive paperweight?
Corporate usage: Could you display advertisements on it without being too intrusive from general functions? Could it be used in a corporate setting, add any value to business running?
End user: Will it be comfortable and easy to use throughout every phase including charging, or would it overheat and cause discomfort? Will it last? Can it be adjusted to suit the needs of people (e.g. different finger sizes).
Give this a thought, and work out if you can provide solutions to every aspect, and identify potential problems BEFORE you even hit the market. You wouldn't want to go through extreme difficulty to process and manufacture it, and in the end it flops badly because of overpriced/poor quality, or maybe simply nobody wants one.
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Well, I haven't just though about the production and all because I ain't ready to do that, I just provided a concept (or) an Idea and asked people to share it if they liked it and then maybe in the future a company might notice this Idea and bring it to reality. I never thought of bringing this thing to production by myself (coz I ain't a rich guy). Speaking of the speaker, it can be replaced with vibration alert which will be more effective (it can be annoying too) for people to never miss an message alert (or) call alert or whatever notifications you get.
When talking about marketing and corporate usage, well there's always a way to target everyone around you for it. However, it just requires an simple yet effective Idea to present in front of the public and it won't be expensive (deduction of specs to low-end ones would help).
Of course, it will be comfortable and easy to use. It's just same as your usual ring replaced by this Tech things from which you can see what's going on your device without a need to take a look at it by taking out it from your pocket. It's just a device which shows you alerts about your notifications and allows you to send messages directly to your colleague by using microphone (voice messaging service).
I Hope you are satisfied. Feel free to ask more questions, I am happy to assist you and NOTE :- It's just and Idea which I haven't thought to bring in production by myself.
Beyond B78 Fashion Smartphone can't read some character Blackberry Messenger
How do I cope with Blackberry Messenger and unicode autotext chinese letters sometimes appear on smartphones B78 beyond fashion? I 've been dressing droidsansfallback.ttf from 9MB to 22MB in size but nothing matched, whereas the Galaxy smartphone chat droidsansfallback.ttf 13.7 MB in size can read all Unicode characters.
The character I mean for example:
♪ ♫ * ¨ * ❤ * ¨ * ● ๋ • тєηgкソ υ 4 ѕнαяιηg ● ๋ • * ¨ * ❤ * ¨ * ♫ ♪ ˙ · 0 • ● ♥ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ♥ ● • • ● ♥ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ♥ ● • 0 · ˙ ♥ ♠ ѕє ℓ αмαт мα ℓ αм ѕαнαвαт ♥ ♠ ヾ( ¯ ▽ )ゞ
( ( ( ' ^ Ω ^ ` ) ) ) J ( 'ー` )し( ● '艸` ) ☆ L ( ' ▽ ` L ) ♪ ( o_ _ )ノ 彡 ☆ ♪ ( * ¯ ω ¯ ) v ( .つ ∀ ≦ . )
(゚c_ ,゚` . )フ( ' , `ノ) (艸^ ^ ) ( ≧ 艸 ≦ * ) ƪ ( ~ ε ~ ) ʃ ƪ ( ▿ ) ʃ ƪ ( ~ ε ~ " ) ʃ ▹ ( ⌣ ) ◃ ƪ ( ˘ ε ˘ " ) ʃ ( o · _ · )ノ" ( ⌣ _ ⌣ .. )
*ƪ ( ^ ε ^ ) ʃ ╭ ╮ ( ¯ , ¯ " ) ╭ ╮ ( ⌒ ˛ ⌒ )
usually if there are characters who do not read the text box will appear, but in my case the emergence of China. Please Help..
i‘m yedos
that's alittle bit like having an idea of something that's implanted in your eye
ive got an idea, its called the eye phone
what you get is a new retina
with the hardware inplanted into your brain
not sure of the hardware yet,,but the concept is there
also you can have a fax machine incorporated to
this fax comes out your bumbum
Just the part about a small 720p curved display, it can be done for sure but at the cost thats can scale into production? I don't think so! if it was Samsung would already make this kind of device
sent from Carina Nebula with my Nexus 5 inter dimensional cruiser...
I think you need to do some searching and find out for yourself that current technology is not there yet.
Google some of the components you're saying will be in the devices, then look at the smallest ones available. It's just not going to work.
Transistors? They won't be large enough to drive the hardware, if you can find them that will fit in a ring.
720p screen? Why? It's on a ring. Anything at that resolution is going to be UNBELIEVABLY SMALL.
High Clarity speakers? Aside from being extremely vague, you show that you have no idea how this technology works. Get some bose earbuds. Their quality is great. Then again, look how big they are. If they could make them smaller, they would. Hell, even hearing aids aren't that small, and their quality is acceptable at best.
1ghz cpu? Find me a 1ghz ARM cpu at this size. They're not available yet. The manufacturing process just isn't available.
512mb ram? Again. The chips aren't going to fit.
Maybe you can get some of these things into a ring, but definitely not all of them. The technology just isn't there yet. I don't mean to discourage you from your goal, but you really just need to be smart about it. Patent your idea, and keep your eyes and ears on the tech world. Be realistic. When the technology is available, you can bring your product to market.
The good: Neon N1 refreshed my judgment on the hardware of MTK6582 plus 1GB RAM by its smoothness. The 720p display belongs to the good kind, showing crispy details and pleasing eyes. Fine craftsmanship.
The bad: Front camera is as low as the phone’s price, or worse. Battery capacity is low, unable to stand heavy use.
Bottom line: As a low-end Chinese-branded phone, it does have drawbacks that we can anticipated while it has a few points that are pleasantly surprising. Altogether, I feel the phone is worth, or fantastic for, its price.
My interest in lesser known Chinese-branded cellphones was aroused when I saw some of them, powered by the MTK6592 octa-core chipset, able to run demanding games in a decent manner. Since then, I’ve seldom looked back to 4-core MTK stuffs, which have nothing to flaunt in my opinion.
Neon N1 should have been ignored if the Axgio company didn’t draw my attention with translated Lewa OS. And when I saw MTK6582, 5-inch 720p display, 1GB RAM, 8GB ROM, 8MP/5MP camera, and a price of 99.99 US dollars, I spoke to myself “it’s as cheap as rubbish”. I meant it would be too cheap to be good.
Quite on the contrary, the N1 gave me a good first impression on the lock screen, where I saw the wallpaper shown with vigor before my eyes. I subliminally unlocked the screen and slid my finger on it a few times. The switch of home screens was very smooth, smoother than on all the 8-core smartphones I’d experienced. The reason will be stated later, but anyway, I felt the passion to know more about Neon N1. And the following is the record of my tryout.
1. Design
Axgio has “chosen” a design for its new phone, rather than “design” it. I can name at least three models with similar appearance, Doogee DG2014, KINGELON HD5000, and iNew V3. The aesthetic language of cambered back plus narrow and flat metal edges was derived from HTC One to my memory, or Apple’s iMac if not limited to mobile phones.
Of the three imitators aforementioned, I like the DG2014 the most, while Neon N1 is not bad either. The Axgio stuff looks as thin as its right or left edges, which were plated with champagne like the golden iPhone 5S -- I think the sliver on its black version seems less gaudy. As the palm is curved when forming a grip, Neon N1’S back cover fits quite well into a hand. However, the swelling camera lens is vulnerable to abrasion and collision.
In comparison with hideable onscreen menu, home and back buttons, Neon N1’s touch sensitive buttons are a little fogyish and add to its size. Well, I’m being captious to a product worth only 105 US dollars.
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Craftsmanship-wise, all inevitable seams on the N1 are so narrow as not to collect dusts; the back cover has a smooth texture but does not reflect lights in a cheap way; all physical keys are elastic and responsive.
Neon N1 has a passable look for me in a word. By the way, girls may like the extra pearl white leathery protective case, which delivers a feel of Anna Sui wallet.
2. Display
I didn’t expect any highlight on a phone too far below the average price of its peers (the DG2014 has the same preferences with Neon N1 but cost USD35 more). Neon N1 changed my opinion somewhat by its image defining ability. The display shines steadily with pleasant saturation and sharpness, while an image is shown with great integrity so that you don’t feel granules.
To examine my feeling at first glance, I borrowed from my friend 3 other mobile phones with good reputation for displays in comparison with the N1, including THL T11, Doogee DG2014 and iNew V3. All of them are equipped with 5-inch 720p displays.
We can see from the real-time photo that the three displays differentiate very little in terms of details. Rather, the N1 shows more distinct layers than the DG2014 and THL T11 in over-bright areas such as the doggy’s hind part of body.
Color-wise, yellow, green, and red colors are true to life on Neon N1 where you can see the grass greener. On the other hand, the display is weak in showing purple, so this color tends to blue here.
The N1 has a cold display in terms of color temperature, much colder than iPhone 5.
To sum up, Neon N1 is equipped with a nice 720P display, with some tolerable weakness though.
3. Camera
The real resolution of the N1’s back camera is low, as low as most Chinese phone cameras, so details are hardly clear in distant view and objects in close view are not so lifelike. Color-wise, the camera is true to bright green and yellow, too, but dark tones are a little bit grey. Besides, you should hold the phone firmly and hold your breath in low-light environment or under fluorescent lamp, or you may get unfocused photos.
The front camera exists just because it’s weird that a phone does not have one. I can judge from the selfie picture that it is myself. That’s all.
4. Operating System.
A Spanish Youtube guy made a very explicit introduction plus review over the Noenado OS, or translated Lewa OS, on Axigo’s last model W2. It was a Beta Test version with many bugs, which have been corrected in the ultimate version. After a few weeks of experience, I found the custom-made android operating system quite lovable, which resembles somewhat to Huawei’s Emotion system.
To be specific, the task killer and traffic control widgets are very useful to me, who uses mobile Internet as often as the fixed-line. And I recently got crazy about themes. As a regular user of iPhone, I never felt the magic of thoroughly changing UI style, except once, when the iOS was upgraded to the 7.0 version.
A new theme made me feel it was a new phone. The HTC Sense-style and Transformers interface below is in fact two of the themes I downloaded from Lewa’s forum. Lewa OS has got many fans on XDA, and some of them may upload their DIY themes here. You can drag such files to the Lewa – Themes – Lwt folder in the Phone's storage and apply it in the Lewa theme store, which was preinstalled on the cellphone with dozens of themes for free downloading.
By the way, the Neonado OS does not contain all language packages of pure android, but only Chinese, English, French, Spanish, Russian, Italy and Germany.
5. Performance:
I was wondering these days why all the MTK6592-powered Octa-core cellphones had more or less hiccups in the switch of home screens while N1 is much smoother in this aspect. Initially, I thought it was the Lewa OS that counted for the higher speed. And the OS did perform better than the pure android 4.2.2 in a comparative test I made between iWing WTD2 and Wing W2, two same MTK phones with different operating systems.
But my conclusion changed a little when I tried out Doogee DG2014, which, with the same original Android 4.2.2, MTK6582 chipset, and 1GB RAM, is agile, too. Factory optimization is important, surely, while the 8-core CPU may have been weak in some points.
We know that MTK6592 has a clock speed of 1.7GHz, but it is achieved by 8 processing cores united. So its single-core capacity may be below that of MTK6582, which has 4 cores with a combined frequency of 1.3GHz. When we are carrying out some simple actions or using non-demanding apps, only one or 2 cores are activated, so it’s natural if you see more 8-core mobile phones with sluggish user interfaces. And err…., Geek bench does not agree to my point of view.
After too much reasoning, I feel Neon N1 has reassuring smoothness and you can see that from my video. Though I know the phone is not able to run demanding games, I still played NFS Most Wanted to see its max capacity. And, it’s not too bad.
Benchmark scores are also essential to a complete review, so they are here.
6. Battery
The face-value of 1,800mAh is a little bit embarrassing at a time when 5000mAh has emerged. Well, I didn’t find it too poor for one-day use, perhaps because I seldom used it heavily. As before, I let a 720p MV loop on the N1 with middle display brightness, and finally, it sustained for less than 4 hours.
7. Others
The phone supports screen mirroring to digital TV. But I don’t have a TV dongle at hand, so I didn’t test this function.
Conclusion:
I did not mean that the Axgio company made a cellphone with outstanding display and smoothness in all handsets. In general, it is a normal mediocre phone without prominent defects, while it is excellent if compared with its ridiculously low price. Its adoption of Neonado (Lewa) operating system, especially the changeable themes, is a bonus point. If you just use a phone for phone calls, mobile Internet, and simple games, Neon N1 is a fine choice.
Axgio company has released the Neonado V1.1 version, where many localization bugs have been corrected, and most importantly, OTA service was added for online update. The V1.1 rom package and tuturials are on the Axgio's forum.
Tutorial for Miui Theme Transplantation to Lewa
This tutorial was first posted on The Neonado official forum. Neonado OS is translated Lewa OS, so themes generated from this tool is actually Lewa themes. The Transformers theme mentioned in the topic post was also transplanted from MIUI, and you can download it from Google Drive.
MIUI may have the world’s most profound source of themes, thanks to the millions of fans who contribute to the operating system. To make more theme manias also share the treasure, some guy built this software to convert MIUI themes for application on the Neonado OS. The program was written in Chinese, but the use of it involves only a few steps, so I make this tutorial to tell you how.
Video about converting MIUI themes for use on Neonado OS
1. Download the zip folder from my Google Cloud storage:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Qofzu1afoyODNkbHhldGRiYVk/edit?usp=sharing.
2. Unzip the compressed files to a newly built folder anywhere on your computer. You can name it Neonado Theme Converter (henceforth abbreviated as NTC).
3. Drag a MIUI theme file with mtz suffix to the folder.
4. Double click the BAT-suffixed program, and we start the process of making a Neonado theme out of a MIUI one.
5. Well, if you have only one MIUI theme for conversion, the process involves no more than pressing Enter and some number keys. You can follow me like this: Enter – 1 – Enter – 1 –Enter – 1 – Enter – 2 – Enter – 1 – Enter – 2 – Enter -- 3 – Enter – 4 – Enter – 11 – Enter.
And now you can see in the NTC folder a new file named lewa.lwt, which is exactly the end product we want. Rename it and drag it into the LEWA – Them – LWT folder on your phone storage. Finally, you’ll see the theme’s thumbnail in the Theme app pre-installed, where you can choose and apply the theme.
6. Even if you’ve dragged more than one MIUI themes into the NTC folder aforementioned, you can convert only one of them each time and the process is different just in the step about choosing which one. OK, don’t bother but follow me: Enter – 1 – Enter – 1 –Enter – the order number of the MIUI theme you are going to convert – Enter – 2 – Enter – 1 – Enter – 2 – Enter -- 3 – Enter – 4 – Enter – 11 – Enter. As all generated Neonado Theme files are named Lewa.lwt by default, you should rename it before start next round.
7. The above five steps, or six, will surely bring you applicable Neonado themes, but they will have the same name, and in Chinese, as shown in the Theme app. If you don’t mind, then you don’t have to take the ultimate step to change the display names. This step should be taken before you type “11” in the fifth or sixth step.
7.1 Download and Install a Ntepad++ software.
7.2 Go to the NTC – theme done folder, right click the description.xml file, and chose “Edit with Ntepad++” to open the source code editor.
7.3 In both the two namelist sections, replace the Chinese characters between the “name” tags with the name you want to display. Save to complete the renaming.
7.4 Type 11 in the MIUI to DAT-suffixed converter and then press Enter to complete the conversion.
Hope the tutorial will add to your joy of changing UI styles. If you have any problem, talk here. BTW, Bandicam is a fantastic desktop screen recorder.
The phone is beautiful and how much is it .
forgeting said:
The phone is beautiful and how much is it .
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Hey i've mentioned in the thread post. The price is 104.99 US dollars presently.
The Neonado ROM is mainly for use on Axgio's pure-android product WTD2 and optimized for MTK6582 only.
Tough Toughman said:
Of the three imitators aforementioned, I like the DG2014 the most, while Neon N1 is not bad either.
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I feel like Neon N1 is the worst in term of photo quality. DG2014 seems ok except some people do have a bug related to focus...
What makes you like DG2014 over the others ?
alg5 said:
I feel like Neon N1 is the worst in term of photo quality. DG2014 seems ok except some people do have a bug related to focus...
What makes you like DG2014 over the others ?
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Hey, this conclusion is just about appearance. DG2014 seems thinner and its metal edges have a better finish, but it is too expensive having the same hardware preferences with Axgio Neon N1.
The Neon N1's camera is not very good, indeed. Do you agree that its display is good at the 720p resolution?
Great review, some help?
hi, i have enjoyed your review. i received this termina too to make a review for a spanish forum and then i started cooking for it. when i was making a port of s5 to our neon i bricked it and when i search for the mtkdroidtools backup to flash it from pc i saw that it wasn´t anywere, i have lost it...and my phone can´t be swicth.
i now that it is work for you but if it would be posible to help me with another mtkdroidtools backup of you phone it would be really great, thaks
guille9191 said:
hi, i have enjoyed your review. i received this termina too to make a review for a spanish forum and then i started cooking for it. when i was making a port of s5 to our neon i bricked it and when i search for the mtkdroidtools backup to flash it from pc i saw that it wasn´t anywere, i have lost it...and my phone can´t be swicth.
i now that it is work for you but if it would be posible to help me with another mtkdroidtools backup of you phone it would be really great, thaks
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Sorry, i can't help you. But you can go to the company's forum Neonado.com for help. They may give you a cable flash tool and ROM package.
guille9191 said:
hi, i have enjoyed your review. i received this termina too to make a review for a spanish forum and then i started cooking for it. when i was making a port of s5 to our neon i bricked it and when i search for the mtkdroidtools backup to flash it from pc i saw that it wasn´t anywere, i have lost it...and my phone can´t be swicth.
i now that it is work for you but if it would be posible to help me with another mtkdroidtools backup of you phone it would be really great, thaks
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And this IOS 7 style ROM for the Neon N1 is your work?
yes, i have ported it from another device. there are also s5 style and miui v5 roms and now working on color os and aosp. thaks and any question ask me
i solved the problem i was too, thaks for your reply
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yes, i have ported it from another device. there are also s5 style and miui v5 roms and now working on color os and aosp. thaks and any question ask me
i solved the problem i was too, thaks for your reply
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Hey, i've tried both the IOS7 Style ROM and the Samsung S5 ROM. Samsung S5 UI is fantastic, vivid background and smooth launcher, but it's weird when i connect my Neon N1 with PC, the PC can't read the phone's storage.
there is a solution
I know. I am working on other ROMs and haven't solve it but it is easy
Just unpack the boot.IMG and replace the file "init.USB.rc" with the stock's same file and it must work.
I will try to take some time updating those ROMs but 4.4 is near to arrive and it would be more effective to waste time developing KitKat ROMs
Thanks for testing them
Any question I am on movilesdualsim or neonado forum
New ROMs will be posted soon I think you will enjoy them, an android original ROM customized is available now
Tried your solution, and problem solved. Nice!
Axgio N1 KK 4.4.2
New officiel 4.4.2 rom for N1 neon available for download : (forum link)
http://bbs.neonado.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=455&sid=74c625028529ba89ee9e7ab8d772dcdb