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Pretty self explanatory this one - is there any way of knowing whether your mobile internet connection (3G) or WiFi is being used in, for example, a browser session? Just don't want to make the mistake of looking at YouTube on the phone, meaning to use the home WiFi, and end up using my 3G by accident, and paying through the nose for extra feed.
ryanbryan said:
Pretty self explanatory this one - is there any way of knowing whether your mobile internet connection (3G) or WiFi is being used in, for example, a browser session? Just don't want to make the mistake of looking at YouTube on the phone, meaning to use the home WiFi, and end up using my 3G by accident, and paying through the nose for extra feed.
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The icons on your task bar should indicate if you have a active data connection.
Or, you can use Spb Wireless Monitor (which you need to purchase). It produces reports telling you which software uses which connections and the amount of data transferred.
In a discussion I had with HTC Tech Support, they told me that wifi, when enabled, over-rides the cellular data. I'm not sure if this just applies to the settings or always. Hopefully, someone can provide a definitive answer.
Yes that is correct, if WIFI is enabled you WILL NOT have a cellular data connection.
Umm. There is a wifi icon in the taskbar o.o and a signal icon also.....whichever is there means it's active and if wifi is there, your data will not be active, only wifi.
What all you are saying is true but some applications still use the data network even if wifi is turned on and connected it seems. I have the same issue(i don't have a data plan with my fuze since my college has wifi everywhere). But things like weather and other native apps on the phone will just turn on the 3g network and stat using data instead of wifi.
if a device is transfering data over gprs/3g whatever
it show arrows moving in the signal str icon
otherwise it use wifi
Applications can choose to use a certain connection if they are programmed to do so, windows only gives each one a type of 'ranking', the fastest connection having the highest ranking and being the one an application is to use by default, but the application can override this and choose whatever connection it likes. This ranking is called the "Interface Metric" if you'd like to learn more about it.
There's an HTC program called 'bytecounter' that monitors the SMDx: ports in the system, which are the ports the system uses for data.. in bytecounter you will see the values increase if an application is using data over cellular network. let me know if you'd like me to upload it.
Umm. There is a wifi icon in the taskbar o.o and a signal icon also.....whichever is there means it's active and if wifi is there, your data will not be active, only wifi.
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Well that wasn't particularly helpful. I too have made the same assumption, but the question asked if there was any way to make sure.
windows only gives each one a type of 'ranking', the fastest connection having the highest ranking and being the one an application is to use by default, but the application can override this and choose whatever connection it likes
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Well that was the kind of answer I was looking for, and is particularly pertinent in my case, as my connection through my mobile provider is about as fast (or maybe even faster) than my fixed line connection at home. A rather bizarre situation, but such is the advancement of Australian broadband infrastructure.
The last couple of times I have used it, I have taken to turning off the phone connection so that only WiFi is running, and then using the internet. It would be good if you can upload the byetcounter program, seems like a free (?) version of the software programatix mentioned.
Here ya go!
Maybe this is just me, but when I try to unzip that file, nothing comes up....?
lol, i always forget to remove the hidden attribute.. let me go ahead and fix that..
Edit: fixed
Newer Windows Live (including the one that come with Touch Pro) will always dial-up the 3G/GPRS connection when checking for email in Messaging. But if you are checking in Windows Live, most of the time it doesn't dial-up but sometimes, it does.
So far that is the only program that I know of behaves like this. I contacted Microsoft regarding this and they keep asking me to contact my celular provider for help. In other word, they are not helping (or do not understand the problem).
Anyway I solved the problem by changing the Connections setting to "My Work Network" for Internet. The catch is, if I really want to use 3G/GPRS, I'll have to change the setting to my celular 3G/GPRS connection.
Or you could use the nodata application from modaco and disable whenever you like the cellular 3g connection just to be sure you are using wifi.When you are away from wifi networks you can in a matter of 2 clicks reenable the cellular 3g connection...
This phone is bugging me. ill be home, where I have low/no service, ill try to connect to wifi, but the phone will try to connect to gprs/3g. then sometimes ill have service and it wont connect at all. IE will work but not opera or some other programs. WIFI is searching 24/7 telling when theres a connection. anyone else have this problem?
I want to leave wifi on but only connect to networks registered.
I want if there's no 3g connect to wifi if available.
seems simple to me. possible? maybe i need to change some settings?
There is "no data" but that don't really solve the problem.
I have expereinced the same, especialy if I have low signal then the gprs/3g connections starts up.
It would be neat with an application that gave you a pop up where you had to confirm that you want to connect thru anything other than wifi or bluetooth.
I have the nodata program on my phone and it works great. Search the forum for the program and if you cant find it tell me and I'll attach the .cab
jaszek said:
I have the nodata program on my phone and it works great. Search the forum for the program and if you cant find it tell me and I'll attach the .cab
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whats the program do
http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=nodata+pocketpc
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whats the program do
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NoData is probably not what you're looking for. It will allow you to disable traffic through a selected data connection. But it must be enabled / disabled manually. Sounds like you're looking for something that will toggle automatically, giving priority / preference to your WiFi connection when it's available.
There's a program called CommMgrPro that will do what you're looking for. That is, enable and disable connections based on things like cell tower location, detection of WiFi, etc. There's also a forum page for the program here.
A program called Bandswitch (at the same site as CommMgr Pro) will do similar to NoData, except it will let you choose enable / disable based on Time of day presets.
Also here in the forum you can find a program called WifiLocations. It will do similar to the first program above above. If you search the forum there are a few more (some free) programs that will do what you're looking for. Good luck!
My problem with the nodata program is that I can't seem to disable gprs/3g traffic while using wifi. It might be that I have an old version, but I have found many times that even with nodata running in the background with disabled data traffic, it still connects me if I loose my wifi connection.
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NoData is probably not what you're looking for. It will allow you to disable traffic through a selected data connection. But it must be enabled / disabled manually. Sounds like you're looking for something that will toggle automatically, giving priority / preference to your WiFi connection when it's available.
There's a program called CommMgrPro that will do what you're looking for. That is, enable and disable connections based on things like cell tower location, detection of WiFi, etc. There's also a forum page for the program here.
A program called Bandswitch (at the same site as CommMgr Pro) will do similar to NoData, except it will let you choose enable / disable based on Time of day presets.
Also here in the forum you can find a program called WifiLocations. It will do similar to the first program above above. If you search the forum there are a few more (some free) programs that will do what you're looking for. Good luck!
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thank you very much for the info. I think I sorta fixed it pretty well on my own.Still need the toggle off and on though.
I hard resetted it with out the bloat. then configured my interenet like this:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=110811
then i went to sounds/notifications in settings, i think, and disabled the wifi notification.
seems to work pretty well.
i take back what i said.it goes in and out. I had 3g service and it said I was connected to media net, but it wouldnt let me get to the net. this phone is a pain when it comes to internet and gps
what do you guys have for internet settings under start>settings>connections>connections>advanced>select network
what setup do i use in the first in the first box and the which setup in the second.
mine 1st media net
2nd my work network (whatever that is)
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i take back what i said.it goes in and out. I had 3g service and it said I was connected to media net, but it wouldnt let me get to the net. this phone is a pain when it comes to internet and gps
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Edit your MEdiaNet connection settings so your proxy is DISABLED. If it is enabled your WiFi will try to use it too - which is not possible. Unchecking the proxy will have have no discernible impact to your browsing speed when you are using the AT&T data connection.
aonavy said:
what do you guys have for internet settings under start>settings>connections>connections>advanced>select network
what setup do i use in the first in the first box and the which setup in the second.
mine 1st media net
2nd my work network (whatever that is)
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You can safely set both to MEdiaNet. If you have WiFi enabled and you're connected to your access point it will take precedent over your GPRS (Edge) or UMTS (3G) connection. It is not necessary to disable the AT&T data connection if you are connected and browsing over your WiFi connection. As soon as you turn off or lose your WiFi signal, your phone will go back to using the AT&T data connection.
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Edit your MEdiaNet connection settings so your proxy is DISABLED. If it is enabled your WiFi will try to use it too - which is not possible. Unchecking the proxy will have have no discernible impact to your browsing speed when you are using the AT&T data connection.
You can safely set both to MEdiaNet. If you have WiFi enabled and you're connected to your access point it will take precedent over your GPRS (Edge) or UMTS (3G) connection. It is not necessary to disable the AT&T data connection if you are connected and browsing over your WiFi connection. As soon as you turn off or lose your WiFi signal, your phone will go back to using the AT&T data connection.
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okay..thanks for the post.
set media net for both and disable proxy and I should be okay correct?
2 questions:
how do I disable the the proxy? delete wap.cingular from the settings? click disable proxy icon?
also i heard if you have one of these disable you cant use your mms?
up up up and away...
I sometimes uses the wifi connection to surf the web on my touch pro, problem is that the wifi reciver don't look to be very strong so sometimes I loose the connection, especially if I'm moving around.
I have found the program nodata, but it doesn't seem to work that well. Even if I activate nodata and have it running in the background while surfing the phone still connects to gprs/3g connection if the signal is lost. My guess is that if I click a link after I loose the wifi connection the phone seem to override the funtion of nodata. Is there any other software that I can use instead?
I want the phone to wait until a wifi connection is established again instead of changing to a 3g/gprs connection.
I'm not sure. Once I removed all the data connection settings, but then I couldn't use the data ever. I've been keeping an eye for a program that does this, but it seems that everyone under the sun other than me has a data plan.
hahaha yo are noy allone out there, I would alslo like to know how to disable data conection.
the answer - modaco nodata. Its not the neatest but the only one
EDIT: and also you can do this in Advanced Configuration Tool from "connections" menu item. If you want a more permament solution (because of the long way to the choise in the app)
All the apps I mention are really easy to google for
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the answer - modaco nodata. Its not the neatest but the only one
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yes...nodata is the one you want.....just search and you shall find
Not sure if this helps but when I handed down my Hermes to my Father in Law just so he could use it for phone calls and TomTom (via BT GPS). I had AT&T block all data so he can only use wifi.
It works great! when his wifi is turned off and he tried to go to the web it says connection refused.
Thanks for the input guys, but nodata don't seem to help me. It's the software I use now, but it seems that somethign is able to override the nodata software leading the phone to dial up when the wifi connection gets a low signal.
I'll give the Advanced Configuration Tool a go, but it seems to be a lot of work going in there turning things off, just to go back and activate them again if I want to check my mail "in the field".
I have an at&t Fuze with no data plan, just unlimited text/mms. I cannot disable data by using Modaco's NoData because mms requires Media Net.
What I have done so that all apps use WiFi is the follows:
Under Start / Settings, select the Connections tab.
Launch Connections.
Select Advanced tab.
Click on Select Networks.
Under Network Management, change "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" to "My Work Network".
With this setting, I don't have Internet connection unless WiFi is active, which is what I want. Maybe the Touch Pro has something similar.
Thanks icwinner, that seem to have made the trick.
So I've had this HTC S743 for about 5 days and I thought I had it setup correctly to use wifi for data comm.
wifi enabled and selected to use my home network. I can see the radio tower status icon and my locally named network is also displayed.
Under the comm manager the data connection is off.
I have a very simple $45/mo plan with no monthly data plan.
Over the last 5 days I have been surfing the web a bit did some email tests with my ISP and used the on board GPS app which is horrible. Not heavy usage but experimentation to see if I like how the phone works.
After 2 days I get an email from AT&T that I have extremely high data usage exceeding my account limit (for having no monthly plan) and that I should sign up for a data plan at once.
$29 over 2 days for this little bit of fluff? A total of 2,900kb in data.
So I call up AT&T and they tell me this and that and want me to sign up for a plan which I may do. But I want to be able to know that the datacomm is happening via WIFI when I can see a selected WIFI is in service.
They also told me that all GPS data is forced through 3G and bypasses WIFI???
Can anyone here give me an idea about what I may be doing wrong and whether AT&T is correct about the GPS service?
Is there a better GPS app that doesn't do this? This one pretty much stinks anyway. A resolution of 1000 meters doesn't cut it.
AT&T also informed me that I can't have a smart phone without a data contract. Really? I've had one for 6 years like that but it wasn't WIFI capabale and too small to bother with web access.
Thanks for any light you shed on the subject.
One thing I have subsequently found out is that if data connection is off and WIFI is off then when I go into IE and start surfing it does bring up pages. Then when I go back to the Comm Manager the Data Connection to check the status of my connections it is still off for an instant and then it automatically turns itself on as though it had been turned on by use of IE and the status was just being updated.
Last night I installed a newer version of Google maps and was only able to install it via the web browser as opposed to via the Activesynch application on my PC. I was concerned that this might trigger turning on the 3G connection. So I had it set up for a WIFI connection ONLY and installed the app. Afterwards I went into the connection manager and once again the data conn. was turned back on so it's possible that it utilized AT&T's 3G network instead.
Is there any way to control or stop this?
GPS data doesn't have anything to do with 3G/Wifi data......
I know it's supposed to be positioning via the satellites through the GPS antenna but the the description data is coming over the network right? So it appears that even though I'm setup for WIFI access and it's showing as connected with an IP address etc. when I try the Googlemaps GPS app it turns the data conn. for 3G back on.
Thanks for chiming in ...
I have been copying over and installing some new apps to try out this morning via usb. WIFI is on and I'm loged in. None are datacomm oriented that I know of (unless they'r trying to make an internet access to notify about being installed) none the less I just checked again and my data conn. is once again turned back on. Is this typical behavior for a windows mobile phone (6.1) or is this just an AT&T "feature".
Sorry, I don't have a WM6 phone!
Generally my sensation has a decent reception. Most of the times i`m able to get a decent 3G/HSDPA signal without any problems.
The problem is, that I live outside the city and at home my (3G) reception sucks. My Sensation seems to suffer from this poor reception a lot more then my previous Desire-Z.
The 2G connection is fine. When the phone switches to 3G however, I only get one bar and the connection frequently drops so that I have no service at all. When i set the phone to only use 2G, the connection stays stable and since I have wifi, having only GPRS at home is no problem.
I don`t want to leave my phone on 2G only because when i`m not home, the 3G connection is usually fine. I was wondering if there is a way to manually change the 2g/3g switching treshold so the phone will only switch when it has a decent 3G signal. I tried to set GSM Auto (PRL) at the #*#4636#*#* menu, but this doesn`t do the trick.
Thanks
You might have already found an answer to your question, but in case you haven't, you might wanna check out WMLongLife.
It has the ability to automatically disable 3G when you have access to a WiFi network.
Hope this helps
I would be quite interested to see the trick how you are running such a deep system tweak application from Windows Mobile on a Android phone ...
Best regards,
dingolino
But there is a possibility with Tasker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530
Psycho_dad_rules said:
You might have already found an answer to your question, but in case you haven't, you might wanna check out WMLongLife.
It has the ability to automatically disable 3G when you have access to a WiFi network.
Hope this helps
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I used tasker to achieve this, when it notices my wifi ssid, it switches off 3g. The down side is that wifi needs to be on ask the time. You could also use "show and switch 2g/3g" from the market, with this APp you can switch with one button or use a schedule.
Guy from reply #2, this is an Android forum not winmo. Winmo it's dead.