Im here to help - G1 Android Development

I have a g1 with ota rc30 so yes i am without root waiting on the great hackers out there to figure something out... thing is im not just the type to sit back and wait for handouts... im willing to help to find a solution thing is i dont know the first thing about programming or hacking expect for following directions to flash roms, and so forth... im real ggod with directions but i was wondering if there was a hacker out there who needed some assistance or something... i have alot of time on my hans and if i were given some kind of direction to start in i could teach myself what to do, i just need to be guided in the right direction as to what i should even be looking for as to report back findings or whatever... **** i wanna help so im here if someone wants to help me learn some basics for hacking this damn phone, or i can test concepts especially since i dont have root, etc... im down for the cause

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Question about buidling a ROM

Are there any sites that explain in detail how to build an Andriod ROM, I've googled it, but nothing of any relavence. I want to learn how to build one.
interesting as well. Waiting some BIG guy to give a guide.
It would be nice, Maybe like a complete kitchen ala WM.
Former WinMo ROM builder (Touch Pro) and looking for the same info.
snag JF's 1.51 build environment from here:
http://jf.andblogs.net/2009/05/24/jfv151-images-are-out/
that will at least point you in the right direction.
you can always modify an existing update.zip and resign it using the testsign.jar tool
i'd love to see a step by step guide as well
A guide would be realy helpful, and greatly appreciated! Been experimenting on my own, but I'd love to see a Ion build enviornment.
Wow, so it looks like we are all making an official request for someone to put together a "Roms for Dummies" or similar..... Who's got the pull to make this happen, lol
there's cyanogenized rogers, a very good sample to start with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524160
I'm a Herald cook, and I would also love to learn this.
Making ROMs for WM devices is so limited, I'm looking forward to this.
This would be awesome... I know just enough to be dangerous... but would rather have some sort of guide to get things going right.
I would have to agree with everyone above me, having some sort of step-by-step guide with a list of necessary tools would be very handy to have. Especially for someone who's just starting out and no idea what certain things do.
I would appreciate some kind of basic tutorial in this direction, too.
I have just been a little confused about how to resign an update.zip if I want to change any files inside of it, and then rezip.
Well.... Lets see if we can't get a Mod to come up with a cool idea of appointing someone who knows what they are doing (i.e. NOT ME), or themselves to collect everyone's pieces, and put them all together into a newb friendly version, and lead up to an advanced version. Talk about really opening the door to new developers. Eh? Whatya think?
I would love to learn too
Make a poll? Or does it seem as if enough people want it to be definite!
thelamacmdr said:
Make a poll? Or does it seem as if enough people want it to be definite!
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It seems enough people want it done.....What have I done?!
ive asked this same question before.
still waiting for an answer
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Yeah I think it is definite. People want to know how to make their own ROMs.
Check this site out:
http://honeypod.blogspot.com/2007/12/compile-android-kernel-from-source.html
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Check this site out:
http://honeypod.blogspot.com/2007/12/compile-android-kernel-from-source.html
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CRAP that looks like martian talk to me LOL. Well judging from that link we all have to learn some Linux boys. Ive been on windows for years and its all i know, but i do want to learn how to work on ROM's. I''ve heard that Ubuntu is the easiest to learn coming from a windows environment, please steer me in the right direction if im wrong. I guess illl have to dual boot my laptop to night.

{REQUEST} how to make a rom

I am looking for a how-to bulid rom for cupcake. I want to know how to make my own custom rom.
Haykuro might be making a tut for cooking roms. I haven't heard anything since.
I searched and searched and asked people nobody helped me so far
Learn some java and Linux, then follow the instructions at source.android.com. there's no magical how to. You have to learn to understand what you're doing.
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Learn some java and Linux
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"Learn some Linux" lol
Thanks for the link, might try this.
Heres a tutorial for you:
Look in the update.zip files, tryto find out which files are for what, and then try modding them
You cant really know without knowing already. I know that sounds ****ty but lemme explain. Im trying to do the same thing and i have next to no coding experience. ive been reading and studying java tutorials and Android tuts and all kinds of other info, to learn as much as possible about what im trying to do. There is no one tutorial to learn this, there are THOUSANDS of tutorials that may be pretty useless by themselves, but added together they teach you what you wanna know. I just try doing it, and anytime i run into a problem, i search for someone else whos had the same problem, and see how (or if) they fixed it. I actually have learned alot this way, and i have created my own build that will run in the emulator, but not on my device (yet). Its totally basic, but i figure if i can learn how to build it and make it run, then i can modify things and put them back and be learning as i go. Honestly, unless you have about 5 years to devote to going to school for this ****, then its the best way i see to go, is just to learn as you go. but you cant learn how to fix anything that you havent broken, so figure out how to get the source, and dig in and get your fingers sticky...its fun.
-BMFC
maxisma said:
Heres a tutorial for you:
Look in the update.zip files, tryto find out which files are for what, and then try modding them
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I assumed this thread was about building 1.5 from the source and modding it from there.
What about 1.41??? Do u guys know anything about creating roms for 1.41??? I rather switch over to 1.41 and upgrade with the stuffs I know. I have good experinces with linux. Nothing about java though.
re:{REQuEST} how to make a rom
maxisma said:
Heres a tutorial for you:
Look in the update.zip files, tryto find out which files are for what, and then try modding them
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only problem i see doing that is when you go to re-zip, or insert apk's in an existing zip and try to ALT-S apply sdcard:update.zip it comes back with "unable to verify" so i think maybe he was looking for a way to re-pack the rom after playing with it.. because i know i am looking for the same answer
jester.....
@Jester, the answer you seek can be found in the Dream theme section, search "AutoSign"....
-BMFC
Building a ROM Startup Guide
Take a look at the following link; this will guide you through the process of environment setup, downloading 1.5 source, building the source, and flashing...
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
I am sure there are other tutorials out there, but this is the one I used to get started...
JAH
jhales said:
Take a look at the following link; this will guide you through the process of environment setup, downloading 1.5 source, building the source, and flashing...
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
I am sure there are other tutorials out there, but this is the one I used to get started...
JAH
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me too...lol
-BMFC
bmfc187 said:
You cant really know without knowing already. I know that sounds ****ty but lemme explain. Im trying to do the same thing and i have next to no coding experience. ive been reading and studying java tutorials and Android tuts and all kinds of other info, to learn as much as possible about what im trying to do. There is no one tutorial to learn this, there are THOUSANDS of tutorials that may be pretty useless by themselves, but added together they teach you what you wanna know. I just try doing it, and anytime i run into a problem, i search for someone else whos had the same problem, and see how (or if) they fixed it. I actually have learned alot this way, and i have created my own build that will run in the emulator, but not on my device (yet). Its totally basic, but i figure if i can learn how to build it and make it run, then i can modify things and put them back and be learning as i go. Honestly, unless you have about 5 years to devote to going to school for this ****, then its the best way i see to go, is just to learn as you go. but you cant learn how to fix anything that you havent broken, so figure out how to get the source, and dig in and get your fingers sticky...its fun.
-BMFC
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welll not true about the 5yr of skool part... i havent even got out of high School yet and have pretty good knowledge on making rom. Being a "cook" for windows roms and being a linux expert, i am have alot of knowledge on building rom... read a view tuts and met some cool people on irc and there yu be building roms and no time. Some of the coders here, i belive don't even have alot of knowledge coming into the rom business but as you plsy around you learn more. 1 tip for you never let no one else phone be your test rabbit... always use your own phone.... TRUST ME yu be building in no time...jusss readddd

How do I become a developer?

I've been a member of XDA Forums since about October (when I got my vibrant). And I wad wondering how to become a developer. I feel like I should help contribute to this community instead of just being someone downloading and flashing. Im planning on majoring in computer science in college and I know it will help me with this type of stuff but I cant wait another year (Junior in high school)... I would really appreciate it if you guys would point me in the right direction or take me under your wing so I could pursue this interest.
dcaples002 said:
I've been a member of XDA Forums since about October (when I got my vibrant). And I wad wondering how to become a developer. I feel like I should help contribute to this community instead of just being someone downloading and flashing. Im planning on majoring in computer science in college and I know it will help me with this type of stuff but I cant wait another year (Junior in high school)... I would really appreciate it if you guys would point me in the right direction or take me under your wing so I could pursue this interest.
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I'm doing computer science also to become a dev, I'm a senior! I have no idea, but I would love to dev also, I know it takes a lot of work though.
Step 1 - cut a hole in the box
step 2 - put your junk in the box
step 3 - make her open the box
step 4 - and that's how you do it (its my d$#* in a box)
haha naw i'm jk, I would like a clear way on how to dev specifically for the vibrant, I've seen a bunch of different ideas and tutorials on how to do it, but their specific for that phone, and its hard to comprehend on how to put the knowledge to the vibrant
Yea I know its alot of hard work but it will all pay off in the end.
I think it would be nice if one of the vibrant developers put up a video of how to become a developer and a video of him/her cooking up a rom. Im sure alot of people would take intrest to that. It would also give us enough knowledge to maybe be able to develop other phones or programs.
Learn your way around a linux box as it's pretty much necessary to compile source and what not. If you're wanting to develop programs for Android, learn some Java...
there's a few good e-books on amazon for android developing if you can learn from books.
I think you should start out with themes....so you know exactly which apks control what...which XMLs control what...then get some Linux knowledge so you can know how to tweak for speed....then start to learn some Java and Smali code....and do a sh*t load of research....i tried to create my own ROM based from official Vibrant source....MAJOR FAIL ...i think my phone went into shock ....but find someone who is willing to teach you...but make sure you're patient enough to learn.
Due to the nature of vibrant roms anyone can be a developer! That's a good and bad thing. Anyways... best way to learn is to learn Java. Android is built on it. It may not loom like it on the surface but it helps (ask whitehawk). Mr apocalypse's advice is probably the best.
Also a video is a horrible idea(no offense). It will empower people who have no business making roms to make them. Do you want people who don't know how to make a flashable zip making roms for your phone? It could potentially lead to bad things...
I was where you were a couple years ago (not that I'm much further ahead). Learn you some Linux. Learn you some theming and try and make a simple app for android.
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Any Dev have good advice?

Hey XDA Community, I'm Looking to pickup a HP Touchpad, and I'm looking to port Android to it... I Know others are working on it, and im patiently waiting, but I figure I should try learning how to port it on my own even if I cant get it to work. and crash and burn. It'll be a good learning opportunity i think.
This will be the first device I have ever done anything like this before, and just wondering if anyone had any input on where to start.
Again I'm a Noob at this, the most ive ever done is root my phone, and that had a simple follow the instructions to get r done kinda thing. but obiviously this is uncharted waters.
I think im rambling now, so if your catching my drift and have any input for me Id appreciate it thanks!

I need help with a APP/APK.

Sorry if I ask stupid things, so go easy on me.
I have tried a lot of APK's for printer from your phone/tablet, but they never really work 100% for me.
I'm not looking for a new app to try, i did i'm done with that.
Now I would like to build one myself, so I can get it just the way I like/need.
But I can't find ANY sites or youtube links that could help me get started.
Help if there is ANYBODY who can help me in any way. please.
I'm not good at coding but I do get around (sometimes after some **** ups)

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