Is this capability out there yet? I believe it requires 'dual channel' capability. Anyway, I'd like to know if anyone out there has this capability yet and, more specifically, if any HTC devices have the capability.
since gprs voice and data ara supported at the same time
but some older gsm phone network hardware dont support it
so if people live in a place where the network is old or gotten 2ed hand
somehow it may not work at the same time
As i was saying, since gprs (Global Packet Radio Service) arrived on mobile networks, there's a channel for voice and another one for data. Ergo all you need is a phone with at least gprs capability and a mobile operator wich provides such a functionnality. Anyway there's no such thing as "dual channel", never heard of it.
Nowadays many operators provide gprs access with higher bitrate than grps original one (about 16 kbps if i remember) through 3rd Generation technology (UMTS WCDMA in Europe) or 3.5G (High Speed Download/Upload Packet Access) technologies. Of course you need a phone with such capabilities to benefit from those access mode. I Think most of recent htc phones (since kaiser if i remember) are at least 3G capables, may be 3.5G, as also most of recent windows mobile/symbian/android/any OS phones.
Finally, if available from your operator, a data included mobile suscription is a good thing if you don't want your mobile internet surfing to wreck your bank account.
Bye.
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Hi.
Im getting my Blue Angel (XDA IIi) with my next paycheque. But i really want IM with GPRS. I'm thinking about going dual Sim with a T-mobile card just for the webnwalk plan, because O2 charge stupid prices for WAP (£3 per mb)
But i realised you can't use IM with most GPRS providers because the ports are blocked to stop other forms of non profit making communication. So what about setting up your home pc as a terminal service server, and then using termincal service client to access it and use MSN from there.
I e-mailed T-mobile asking if termincal service client was allowed and here was the (relevent part of) the response:
"Using our webnwalk priceplans you would be able to use the terminal service client on your phone in order to access other pcs. The GPRS usage would come out of your allowance any time that you used this service."
Not having my XDA IIi, i don't know if this would work, so could someone test it please.
is this a good idea or should i have stuff thrown at me for even thinking it?
Thanks.
Erm.......... you can use IM on T-Mobile GPRS... I do most days.
Either the supplied Messenger ir Agile Messenger.. works a treat.
I moved from O2 to T-Mobile cos they had no decent GPRS uage plans.. now I get unlimited.... it's great....
Charlie Grillo
another part of that e-mail:
"In terms of MSN messenger, this would not be allowed as part of the terms and conditions of the priceplan. These state that certain things such as VOIP, Messaging over internet and Internet Streaming are not allowed."
Are you on contract by any chance?
TS
I am not familiar with T-Mobiles Terms / fair usage policy, but it seems strage you can use terminal services and not msn messenger - I would have this checked out!
I know that TS works perfectly on the XDA 2 and above, if that helps.
IM on GPRS
Yes, I'm on contract - not PAYG.
I read T-Mobile's T's & C's, but messaging isn't mentioned.. it contains this guff..
To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, they are not to be used for other activities such as (but not limited to): modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video download and internet based telephony.
hmm.. modem access - a bit restrictive, but as I can't get the damn thing to connect and dial when used as a modem any more it's not a problem (I wonder if they crippled this in their last ROM upgrade as it worked perfectly before...)
bandwitdth
in theory this is possible, but theres no chance of running terminal services/remote desktop from the blueangel over gprs...
the connection is not quick enough.
over wifi its fine but not gprs.
good point
I have done it with wi-fi and 3G - if you are in a 3G area (ha!) you should be OK.
Hey everyone.
Here's my dilemma:
I'm on the 3 network in Australia, which roams to Telstra GSM (GPRS/EDGE) when I don't have 3G reception. I have a 1GB data plan, but when roaming on Telstra it costs $1.25 per 1MB.
I want to stop my trinity from connecting to GPRS/EDGE while roaming, while still allowing 3G/HSDPA to function normally. Any ideas / solutions?
All I know of is Modaco NoData. Perhaps you could use MortScript and get it to run NoData while you are roaming. Also, i'm sure there must be some solution to deactivate the data connection while roaming. I'll post back if i find something.
Thanks for that. Don't know mort script but i'll look into it.
Also of notice, the same internet profile is used whether i'm on my home network or roaming, so disabling the profile won't cut it i'm afraid.
Check this out... it might have what you want
http://www.commmgrpro.com
One of the members here @ XDA developed this app which can switch between GPRS / 3G plus a whole lot of nifty features.
Unfortunately not.
I need to still be able to make and receive calls on the GSM network. I purely need to stop the internet connection from functioning through GPRS/EDGE
There's an option to choose between 3G and EDGE.
How does it affect?
If I don't have 3G activated with my service provider, will selecting 3G in the option make any difference?
Isn't it automatic that whatever you have activated in your plan with your service provider, the same speed you'll get.
It's easy, if you select 3G the phone will use 3G if available otherwise not^^.
If you can't use 3G anyway (due to your provider), try which setting will have the best battery life...
However I never heard of a provider that explicitly sells 3G access. Is it possible that you mean the data (read no mobile internet xD)?
Just how do the networks track (and bill) what data is used on a phone when used as a hotspot and what's used by the phone itself? Is it through spyware on branded phones?
I found out the hard way that my network (vodafone Ireland) bills differently for mobile data used by the handset itself (browser, podcast downloades etc) and mobile data when tethered to the handset.
I though data was data
my old network didn't make the distinction - I had 8gb of data to use as I pleased - use the phone as a hotspot or browse from it (what's the difference)
So I'm wondering if this isn't an issue on unbranded phones as there isn't the same bloat/spyware installed on them?
Good read.
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot
The latest comment is most interesting. It seems that most likely carriers will have greater controls with branded phones.
Yeah I'm going to do a little testing on a non branded phone and see if anything shows up on my bill.
Thanks for the link @csk1jw
cheers
13I find myself with a few phones handed down to me, and I am often in areas where there in no mobile phone network available,
I am curious as to weather or not these Android phones (on which I have gained root access) could be perhaps booted to a system that allows communication directly between the phones instead of via the non available mobile network.
If I remember correctly, an article I read some years ago described an open source project designed to offer telecommunications using the transceiver in each phone to create a network for areas that had no other available network.
If anyone could point me to some information on the above described network, or just using these as "walkie talkies" I would very much appreciate it.
I was not able to find much in the way of relevant information, but Wikipedia says,
Developments
Some cellular telephone networks offer a push-to-talk handset that allows walkie-talkie-like operation over the cellular network, without dialing a call each time. However, the cellphone provider must be accessible.
Motorola has IDEN cellphones (e.g., i867) that can have 15 conversations over each of 10 900Mhz channels (see Moto Talk) between compatible cellphones without using the cellphone network or a base station. This is very useful outside the range of a cellphone provider as well as reducing network charges.
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Smartphone apps
A variety of mobile apps exist that mimic a walkie-talkie style interaction. They are marketed as low-latency, asynchronous communication. The advantages touted over two-way voice calls include: the asynchronous nature not requiring full user interaction (like SMS) and it is voice over IP (VOIP) so it does not use minutes on a cellular plan. Applications on the market that offer this walkie-talkie style interaction for audio include Voxer, Zello, and HeyTell, among others.[7] An application that offers this style of interaction for video is Glide.[8]
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Nothing in this seems to be what I am looking for.
have you tried restarting your phone? my phone sometimes crashes and restarting works perfectly, try it seriously
There may be apps that provide Walkie Talkie like functionality over Wifi, but I think you need to distinguish what you are doing over wifi, bluetooth, and cellular. I'd go with one of these. You might even be able to setup some kind of mesh-based network using wifi - depending on the area you are trying to cover.
iDen and other carrier based PTT solutions are based on connectivity to cellular networks, and won't help you here. Additionally, most GSM networks are not outfitted with native PTT functionality. You are best working with Local Area Networks (LANs, like WiFi) or Personal Area Networks (PAN, like bluetooth)
WiFi and Bluetooth operate on spectrum which is unlicensed and available for public use - with some restrictions, such as power output and the like. Anything you could coax out of WiFi or Bluetooth should be fine.
Cellular, on the other hand, is an entirely different breed. Cell networks are generally regulated and licensed by relevant government authorities. Trying to setup your own cell towers is likely illegal in most countries without licensing or regulatory approval - with a few exceptions, like carrier sponsored micro cells. That would include tampering with the cellular radios in most devices.
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Yes,,, the legal issue is something I had not yet considered and you make some important points.
It is likely that even if I find the information on the project I mention above I will not be able to do anything other than learn a little from it, that's OK.
You mention IDEN as being carrier based, as far as I can tell IDEN is one of the few that is not.
From my previous quote
Motorola has iDEN cellphones (e.g., i867) that can have 15 conversations over each of 10 900Mhz channels (see Moto Talk) between compatible cellphones without using the cellphone network or a base station. This is very useful outside the range of a cellphone provider as well as reducing network charges.
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There is more info on this at this site .wikipedia.org/wiki/MOTO_Talk ( need to make more posts before I can give a link ).
I do however note that some carriers do not allow this feature to be used, or limit its use.
MOTO Talk also works only on some specific Motorola phones, reading between the lines there seems to be some hardware as well as software that is unique to these models.
I'm most interested in the open source project ( I think it was open source ) that I read about some years ago, perhaps it is on SourceForge?
I have trouble finding a useful search string for Google, any suggestions?