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I just tried chainging my cpu speed using some programs I found
first of all I tried xcpuscalar, but the whole machine freezed and I had to do a soft reset
next I tried a program I found on this site called overclock, it was not designed for this device but I wanted to try it and hoped that it would work, but unfortunately it gave the mesage when I tried using "unable to execute"
and now I am using phm but this also has some problems as an example the whole machine freezes with a bus of more than 130, so this limits the speed to 520 mhz. this happens while using speed configuration on that item
Is there someone else who tried o/c or u/c on his magician(I have an t-mobile branded version)? and if so with which program, and what are you're experiences? How far were you able to go?
I find it hard to believe the max for the magician is at 520 mhz so I hope there is someone who knows more about this
Did u try pocket hackmaster yet......??? It has a good reputation.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7258
yes phm is pocket hack master, but when I try a bus higher then 130 the program hangs, and I have to do a soft reset, the maximum speed I can get this way is at 520 mhz, and I was hoping to push it some bit further
edit: I had the hack master 3.05 version as a trial because I first wanted to see if the program worked, but now after only 2 days the trial has expired, so maybe there is someone else who has a registered version and willing to also give it a shot
i also tried PHM 3.05.001 and noticed the 130MHz bus limit..
however if you add a manual speed, u can increase the clockspeed multiplier and take it way higher than 530MHz - i had it running at 845MHz!!! but surely that cant be good for the phone? although it passed all the stress tests and so on....
also... shortly after i did that the phone crashed and i was forced to hard reset!!! my punishment for overclocking too much
thanks for the info, the only problem now remaining is that the trial has expired and I first want to test this before buying it
ah well, too bad, I only find it very strange that when you have a trial for 10 days it stops working after only one day :?
Dear all
Try to Put in 111 111 111 111 111 111 on the serial no and see.
enjoy
nice the code works thx's
Do Yyou erally notice that higher speed on your compact? Because otherwise i would overclock mine also to bus 130 mhz
What are the advantages ?
Don't trust the clock value reported by PHM! Use third party program like Betaplayer and U will found the value report by PHM is not correct
I can set PHM to report a 926mzh!!! and un the tests OK. But betaplayer reports only 494 (and it can be proved by the similar benchmark of PHM itself or from Betaplayer)
Magician probably use some relatively poor quality ram or components that post a 130mzh limit on the bus and there is no way to use any software to overcome physical limit. For stability, I will only set it to 124mzh.
HOW DO YOU SET UP A MANUAL SPEED FOR BENCHMARKING THE CPU SPEED?!?!?!?
I just wondered if the mini ( or ppc architecture in general ) is layouted for scaling cpu and bus frequencies. all you guys just do it, and I think that at least downscaling during idle time like centrino notebooks do is a great feature to save batterie time, but is the basic hardware architecture made to cope with the chaning tensions / currents ?
If the answer would be a yes, then why the hack this feature is not implemented in windows ce ?
So I tend to say no it isnt... maybe somebody could give evidence
thx in advance
in response to the question by iCue,
yes, the hardware is made to cope with the changing clock multiplier/clock frequencies...
the title of the CPU itself, "scalar" means that it is capable of scaling the speeds up and down to conserve battery life etc...
unfortuantely, microsoft being micrsoft, did not implement this (hence programs like pocket hack master being needed)
HighPingBastard said:
in response to the question by iCue,
yes, the hardware is made to cope with the changing clock multiplier/clock frequencies...
the title of the CPU itself, "scalar" means that it is capable of scaling the speeds up and down to conserve battery life etc...
unfortuantely, microsoft being micrsoft, did not implement this (hence programs like pocket hack master being needed)
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When i use XCPUscaler, then i notice that my magician works not so good as else. Under 10 % it scales to 208 Mhz in stead of 416 to save power but when i do something big like view foto's then xcpuscaler sometimes doesn't speed up my magician. Nobody noticed this on his magician?
That's the reason why i stopped using it !
Thanks
HighPingBastard for this precise answer
@ThEScReW : Naturally it is a problem that if you use 100% of 200 Mhz it is hard for phm to gain enough to upscale the cpu...
so well... no I didnt realise this problem yet ;D
hi everyone,
is it possible to set the process or thread or application priority to the processor to enhance its performance? is there any tool that can accomplish that? there is one for PC!
when i play a game and have an audio playing in the background, i noticed that the game performance becomes sluggish and sometimes unplayable, but some games let you set the level of priority that they have to the processor. i noticed that if i give the game the highest priority, its performance becomes excellent without impacting the audio...it also depends on the audio player and the game that's being run.
anyhow, is there a system tool that'll let me assign priority for those applications that don't explicitly offer this feature?
thanks,
There is not way you describe like for a Computer.
But you can consider install PocketHackMaster or CpuOverclock and assign a higher Turbo frequency for a definded application or game.
If you get a crackled audio in games this is setted by low-priority audio into the registry,install GB Soft Tweak-Higher priority for audio media,will solve this problem.
You can consider install big games into Program memory-RAM as they load much faster.
You can increase the amount of Cache of your Windows Mobile 5 performance up to 20 percent by
[HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS] CacheSize = 4096 EnableCache = 1 [HKLM\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt] ReplStoreCacheSize = 4096 * Soft reset for changes to take effect. Default values for all keys are 0
or search for GlyphCache if you are using Win2003-SE
Good Luck!
unapproachable2kx,
thanks for the information and help. unfortunately, pocket hack master is not compatible with my WM5 HTC Wizard. As for CpuOverClock, i couldn't find it on the web. do you have a direct link?
i don't have an isolated crackled audio problem; the whole game, including the animations, stutters, so i don't think GB Soft-Tweak is of use to me.
i don't want to install games on my Main Memory as i don't have enough room.
i have done the WM5 cache trick. i have tweaks2k2 and SKTools.
thanks,
Sorry I mean: XCPUScalar
http://www.immiersoft.com/
XCPUScalar doesn't do what i asked for and it isn't compatible with my HTC Wizard's OMAP processor
Just searched the whole Web!! Nothing is done yet for an OMAP processor.
But seems something is going on..
http://www.antontomov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=835&st=0&p=5249&#entry5249
Most of the recent WM6 rom chefs have been advocating making NO performance tweaks, in favor of keeping as large a RAM pool as possible. As I rarely need 30mb to run a program, I am happy to give up what I don't need if it will help get data back and forth to the SD card and so on faster. Has anyone got thoughts or data about this? I don't own a benchmarking program so I can't check it out directly. I have been making all the tweaks anyway, but does it matter?
Thanks for your thoughts!
Ed
X-Plore 1.1
IPL/SPL 3.08
GSM 2.69.11
edhaas said:
Most of the recent WM6 rom chefs have been advocating making NO performance tweaks, in favor of keeping as large a RAM pool as possible. As I rarely need 30mb to run a program, I am happy to give up what I don't need if it will help get data back and forth to the SD card and so on faster. Has anyone got thoughts or data about this? I don't own a benchmarking program so I can't check it out directly. I have been making all the tweaks anyway, but does it matter?
Thanks for your thoughts!
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I agree completely! I'd like to see a WM6 ROM with all the performance tweaks and 8 MB page pool. I know jwzg is working on an 8MB pp ROM based on Faria's up coming Vanilla WM6 ROM.
Check out this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299584&page=10
Thanks for the link. I really don't understand the drive for smaller and smaller page pools either...
Some Answers!
OK, here is my contribution to the WM6 literature...
I am running battery status 1.04 beta 3 with the following settings in all tests: cpu speed 247, cpu scalar min 143, boost 278. set on wakeup, remember last speed. My base setup is as per my signature. I ran SK Tools v 3.1.1.0 in demo mode. I also removed the HKLM\init launch100 key in both cases.
All tweaks, No tweaks
Integer (moves/25us) 134.0864, 134.4001
Floating point MWIPS 3.490, 3.489
RAM Access speed index 345, 328
Draw bitmaps speed index 503, 522
Main storage (w) KB/sec 607.78, 612.14
Main storage (r) KB/sec 3670.25, 3469.23
Storage card (w) KB/sec 412.76, 423.11
Storage card (r) KB/sec 3353.71, ! 1119.13
As you can see, the major difference is in the storage card read speed. This led me to retest using only the SD card speed tweak, and no others. Surprisingly, the result was unchanged from using no tweaks! So, likely there is some interaction with the other file system tweaks that is involved. (See the wiki-WM5 performance tweaks). At some point maybe I'll try to pin it down further.
Regards,
Ed
BTW: Sorry for the poor formatting, for some reason the extra white space between columns is being suppressed in the post.
When I was using NotTooSmart's ROM, it had some performance tweaks. I don't have a benchmark prog but it was definitely much faster. I would say it's comparable to when I had it overclocked to 234-247MHz...
I believe what made the most difference was the System Cache... I lost ~10MB of RAM but the ROM was flying... Start up was scary though... I think it went <2MB w/ the progs I had...
edhaas said:
Thanks for the link. I really don't understand the drive for smaller and smaller page pools either...
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A lot of people tend to be RAM fanatics... that's probably what drove cooks to have smaller and smaller page pools... Another thing is people and numbers.. many tend to feel the bigger, the better.. High IPL/SPL, High Radio, High OS, High Storage, High RAM.. I think you get the picture.. =P
Update on tweaks
I think I'm near the max. I maxed out the file cache, and filter cache, kept the SD cache at 256 and re-ran the benchmarks. Slightly higher numbers all round, but a dramatic increase in SD card read rate, now up to 6.5 mb/sec! I would expect this would speed loading those big programs and files from the SD card, and is 6 times the "stock" speed!.
Regards,
There was a post a few weeks ago (I think) where someone did comparisons with playing with PagePools and the performance. They compared 4MB, 6MB, 8MB, and 12MB pagepools. As I recall there was very little difference between 12MB and 8MB performance. I think 6MB was the worst of the 4.
Again this was all from memory, but I just remember after reading that, I no longer was that concerned about the differenence in performance over the added extra memory available by dropping to 8MB.
Performance tweaks
Actually, in thinking about the issue, it occurs to me that the standard benchmarks we are using (SPB Tools) don't measure things that would likely be changed by a change in page pool. CPU calculations, memory access speeds, would not change by changing the page pool or buffer sizes. The only measurement which would change would be the speed of swapping programs and data in and out of memory (by suppressing the actual need to do so) or accessing the memory card. However, these things *would* impact on "real life" apparent speed of the device in activation of programs and quick response times.
Thoughts?
Forgive my obvious ignorance... This is the closest thread I have found for my search, "SD card speed tweak" so can you please help me? point me to the tweak to speed up my SD card?
thanx in advance!
Re: Speed tweaks
Sure, If you want awesome numbers on SK Tools SD read benchmark, (particularly when combined with overclocking) make these registry changes:
HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>MMC_Class:
Change BlockTransferSize to 256 decimal
HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>SDMemory_Class:
Change BlockTransferSize to 256 decimal
HKLM>System>StorageManager>FATFS:
Change CacheSize to 4096, 8192, or 16384 decimal
HKLM>System>StorageManager>Filters>freplxfilt:
Change ReplStoreCacheSize to 4096, 8192, or 16384 decimal
The larger the numbers the faster the benchmark. However, some of the other benchmarks run slighly slower, and I'm not sure I see significant "real life" improvements in responsiveness. I'd be interested in your impressions. One thing to watch out for, particularly when using the 16384 settings, is that available memory can drop to "dangerously" low levels on start up from soft reboot. If you're using batterystatus you can monitor this. As long as you stay above 2mg or so at the minimum you're ok, as the situation resolves after the start up routines finish. If you do go below, I've had the screen blank temporarily and hang for a moment, but it eventually booted fine anyway.
Have fun!
Thank you for your prompt and courteous answer!! I am still learning this PocketPC stuff. Someday I hope to be able to contribute. It already seems faster!
email tweaks
is there anyway to make my pics in emails auto download?
(instead of having to click "download pics" every time...)
and to create shortcuts to my text messages and other applications, how can i do that?
b.mann said:
is there anyway to make my pics in emails auto download?
(instead of having to click "download pics" every time...)
and to create shortcuts to my text messages and other applications, how can i do that?
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This question is slightly offtopic, but I'll answer you anyways.
Go to the email account you want to change:
Menu/Tools/Options/Choose The Account (it will take you into email setup):
Next/Next/Next/Options/Next/Next/Download size limit (drop down menu - choose what you want)/Finish
Hi,
I saw the benchmarking results that you guys posted and the difference between "with tweaks" and "without tweaks". The numbers sure show a difference with the benchmarking results but what i'd like to ask and what i'd really like to know is - have you noticed a significant difference in actual/real life performance on ur wizard? Was it obviously faster?
I mean, for me and IMHO, i'm not much of a fan of "benchmark" results and all that unless I actually see a "real" difference in speed when i use my PPC. I don't think i'll go for the performance tweaks if i'll loose 10+MB of RAM and am only able to see "benchmark" results being better instead of overall actual performance. That's why i'd like to get ur inputs on this whole performance tweaks thing...is there a noticeable difference in speed? (not just benchmark data)
WM 6.1 Tweaks
Hi,
Even the thread is quite old,
after some time of using WM6 and 6.1 and test meny mor etweaks, there I post some of them who i found usefull.
TKS to all contributors form xda or another.
1. Stop 3G services: settings\phone\ HSDPA must be disabled; RAT set to GSM; the internt still accesible trought GPRS for the most operators
Result in: less batery consumption 1-2 days stdby increase to 3-4 days
reduce blockings and wake-up problems
2. Disable Power management for SD card: use poket toolman or others and uncheck Enable Power Mgmt for SD card; or use regedit and change to
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\SDMemory_Class]
“DisablePowerManagement“=dword:00000001
Other option:
Change reg into
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
“PNPUnloadDelay“=dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
“PNPWaitIODelay“=dword:8196
Note that the 8196 should be entered as a DECIMAL value. The HEXADECIMAL (HEX) equivalent is 0×00002004.
Result in: Less blocking and sd diseaparing fix or slow upload sd when wake-up
More consumption on batery, about 10% more, but with tweak 1 still OK
3. Uncheck today timeout: settings\items\ uncheck Today timeout
Result in: less delay when a phone call income o r standby resume
4. Try to instal the alarm programs and sounds files direct into main memory instead of SD; to avoid sd blocking when standby resume
5. Install .NET Compact Framework 3.5 (last vers) to your device, as:
1. Download .NET Compact Framework 3.5 from Microsoft and save it on your PC.
2. Run the downloaded MSI file and let it install.
3. Connect your device to Activesync/Windows Mobile Device Center and finish the automatically launched installation on your device.
4. Soft reset your device.
5. Open a Registry editor and navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework where you will see two entries for the (now two) existing version references: the old one, which came with your device and the new one you just installed.
6. Change the DWord value of 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 (thus enabling it) and all the other values (i.e.: 2.0.7045.00) from 1 to 0 (thus disabling it/them).
7. Soft reset your device.
Result in: shorter time (gain 0.5 sec) to navigate trough windows menus and buttons actions.
6. Activate lock applet on today menu; Without this function when the phone is in stand-by and a call income the phone delay has about 8-10s to wake-up.
Result in: the wake-up on call is shorter (gain 4-5 sec) than without this lock checked in today settings; somehow WM use this library to pass trowght to wake up.
7. Speed-up the SD card read; tks to edhaas contributor from xda-developers.
Action: increase some SD cache into registry:
a) HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>MMC_Class:
Change BlockTransferSize to 256 decimal
b) HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>SDMemory_Class:
Change BlockTransferSize to 256 decimal
c) HKLM>System>StorageManager>FATFS:
Change CacheSize to 4096, 8192, or 16384 decimal
d) HKLM>System>StorageManager>Filters>freplxfilt:
Change ReplStoreCacheSize to 4096, 8192, or 16384 decimal (16384 is dangeours high, some blank screen at startup)
a), b) settings are regulary set by default to 256; c), d) is by default to 0, so change-it and see if gain some perf.
All of them has tested and works fine.
Apply and now I found my i-mate ultimate 6150 OK, instead of first phone impression when I blame-it.
For those of us who know just enough to make some real toast with a kitchen, or people who want to just sit down and eat at your fabulous restaurants and consume your delectible cheffery, page pool, even if it hasn't been changed, and an estimate of what the remaining memory might be w/o any changes, would be welcome additions to the menu, as it were.
(I've been having some trouble with the page pool tutorial/editing, myself, and if I could pick one that suits it would be much easier than, well, thinking. Isn't everything easier than thinking?)
i can tell you about my ROM free mem: 33-35 mb mem free, 36-38 mem free with camera driver off. with 4 mb pp, all systems operational.
now: decrease stats by 2mb and you have 3 mem for 6mb pp, it is not worth it imo.
1413:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...t=pagepool+hex
screen to prove working method:
http://i11.tinypic.com/624359e.png
on 6mb pp system seems to be more fluid in general, but it IS slower in tests(tcpmp movie test, emu test etc).
I have used the pocket pc for a year but still I cant answer this question that was thrown to me just now...
" how many applications can we put in our wizard?" I have looked in the net but no answer was found mybe here I can find the answer
due to the rise of wm6.1 usual capacity of programs is 27 - 29 and storage is around 40 to 44
with this setup how many applications can we put
please answer me I am in the loo here... or is there no one else has put it in to the test too?
Is that really a serious question?
It just depends on the size of the apps...
Do you ever wonder how many animals you can put in your car? Not even a whale, but millions of ants...
here's the math
number of apps = storage space available / average space required by one app
(average space required by one app = sum of total space taken by all the apps / number of apps)