Does anyone know of a cab to enable haptic feedback on the att fuze?
depends on your definition of haptic feedback....
if you just want the phone to vibrate when the screen is pressed, im sure theres gota be something out there... i would be interested in that.
Dont think the fuze supports anything more fancy then that though.... i know some haptic feedback can vibrate just under ur fingure in a specific location, not just the whole phone
yeah was just looking for something to make the screen vibrate when you press it, nothing fancy. tested one out at the att store and plan to buy it in december when my contract is up for renewal, and i thought a little screen vibration would be nice for those quick onscreen keyboard texts
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I have very, very basic knowledge on this subject- so an expert should correct me if I'm wrong... but I don't think this is as easily possible as you might like.
Basically most taps aren't registered universally throughout the OS and are actually app specific. For example - a tap on an item in File Explorer is read differently (or by a different area of the OS) than a tap on the keyboard.
I know there was a cab for the Hermes that vibrated when you pressed a key on the dialer pad (which was admittedly cool) - so I imagine it would be possible to do the same with the soft keyboard...
But a universal fix is very unlikely.
The XPERIA X1 has an app that does this built-in, so one would think that this would be CAB-able and appliable to the TP.
Please see here for haptic feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447472
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Figured I'd post this where some developers might actually see it. Please let me know if anything already exists to do what I'm looking for.
I Just got a new 8525 (USA carrier: Cingular, slightly modified HTC TyTN) and love it so far. BUT there are a couple things I'd love to change...
The FIRST is disabling the flashing notification LEDs, there's two around the front earpiece, the one on the right flashes green for cellular network connectivity and is on solid when charging (orange then green when charged). On the left is one that flashes blue for BT but green for WiFi.
There's already an effort at MoDaCo BUT it also disables vibrate. Need to keep vibrate and ideally would like to keep the ability for the phone to use the LEDs for notifications (voice mail, call missed, etc). Even in my shirt pocket the flashing is always catching my eye.
Next, I'd really like a way to send all audio to a simple BT earphone (i.e. not an AD2P stereo jobbie) for listening to podcasts, audio books, etc unobtrusively. There's something out there called BTAudio, but it doesn't seem to work on this device. When I run it there's noise audible in the earphone, but audio through media player still comes out of the speaker, not the earphone.
Seems this would be useful for all HTCs (and any others?) with slide out keyboards: a way to disable the popup of the onscreen keyboard. An example: I'll open something that requires text entry, the keyboard pops up, I slide the phone open, the onscreen keyboard goes away, I enter stuff into the field then go on to the next one, and the d_mn onscreen keyboard will often popup again, which is very annoying because if covers much of the screen especially in landscape.
--Maybe a way to link disabling the popup to being in landscape?? Would just as soon keep the on-screen button for the keyboard though, with it's notifications for shift and blue dot...
Well, is there any hope?
TheCritic said:
Next, I'd really like a way to send all audio to a simple BT earphone (i.e. not an AD2P stereo jobbie) for listening to podcasts, audio books, etc unobtrusively. There's something out there called BTAudio, but it doesn't seem to work on this device.
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Did you read my related article ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1398&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 )?
Bluetooth Audio is reported to work with the Hermes / TyTN. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278778
BTW, do you want me to relocate the thread to the TyTN forum?
I figure it applies to more then just the TyTN, which is why I put it here. These forums are so segregated now...
I think I FOUND a solution for popup onscreen keyboard annoyance:
http://personales.ya.com/beemer/dow..._WM2003_WM5.zip
you don't need any new soft to disable popup keyboard. first of all, it disappears the moment you start typing with slideout one, and stays gone until you manually activate it. another thing, also found here without any effort tells you about a registry tweak to disable it permamently. search.
banannq said:
you don't need any new soft to disable popup keyboard. first of all, it disappears the moment you start typing with slideout one, and stays gone until you manually activate it. another thing, also found here without any effort tells you about a registry tweak to disable it permamently. search.
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Yeah, the popup goes away, then pops back up as soon as you move to the next field, possibly covering it, then goes away when you type, then comes up again next field... Especially annoying with the gmail midlet (which has problems of its own relating to selecting fields in the first place).
Would appreciate a link for the registry tweak, haven't seen it in any of the Hermes/TyTN tweaking threads, and there doesn't seem to be a way to set nullKB to be the default.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=918794#post918794
try this out for the sip problems... personally don't know how it does, as im fine with ignoring the virtual keyboard;]
I'll have to try that, thanks Banannq.
So I came up with a few more things I'd like a way to do or would be eager to help somebody beta test
The first two relate to being able to unlock and show off the phone to friends and co-workers while keeping some things private...
1: Except maybe for replying to an SMS I really would like a way to make it so I have to enter a password to run the messages/email program, or even better to enter certain folders within it. Love the way Hotmail works on the PPC, but without some way to keep my private email private I just can't use it.
2: Ability to set a default filter in contacts, for example I'd use the 'no categories' filter, but others have many other uses for this. Not sure if I'd want it to apply to quick dialing or caller ID in the phone app, but an option for that too would be nice.
This is just a general one I've heard many ask for:
3: The ability to set the Calendar application's default opening view, for me it'd be 'month'.
Any of these things possible? Anybody else have some small changes/options they'd love to see added?
I've been trying to figure out how this could be done for a few months now. My original idea was a .Net managed app wrapped up in a C++ service which would hook the proper WMessage and cause a short vibrate (reg entry to customize strength, duration, frequency, and wave shape perhaps). After looking into the Vibrating Dialpad registry hack and playing with Sound Schemes (see crediting links below), I'm thinking there may be a far more straight forward way using a simliar approach to Vibrating Dialpad. On the other hand, I'm not sure where *vibrate* gets interpreted so it may not be so simple. Anyone have feedback on this? I think even a basic "haptic" screen feedback would be very welcomed by many people and a cross-device solution seems feasable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300904
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340466&page=3
like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Yah, something like that I've been asking around for months and this is the first time I've heard of that app. I'll check it out. The "lag when typing fast" could be a problem, but we'll see. Thanks for the link.
Just like Vibrating Dialpad, the resulting vibration is far too long (at least 1 second) even when I configure it for 1ms. Perhaps this is a limitation of something more low-level on the Vouge?
I've tried a couple of these and the lag is always a problem, the vibration wants to be just a slight buzz and linked to the duration of the screen press. It needs to occur instantly too.
The LG touch screen phone seems to do it well.
But in response, I'd pay for a good app.
Folks, forgive me if this subject has already been addressed. I did run a search and found nothing relevant using "navigation" as my search criteria so here goes...
I used to own a t mobile mda compact and as I recall the nav button (circle) used to flash on a circular motion to give an indication of some sort of alert be it a missed call or a text message for example. Has this feature been overlooked on the Vario IV, touchpro or is there something I need to do in order to enable this useful feature?
If I am honest my patience is beginning to wear thin with this device and its growing list of flaws/missing features which have been left to talented guys on these forums to sort out. Surely T mobile has had plenty enough time iron out these things before this phones release.. (we waited long enough for the thing after all)
My TP does this with the stock rom, no tweak or setting were needed.
Same here.
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Folks, forgive me if this subject has already been addressed. I did run a search and found nothing relevant using "navigation" as my search criteria so here goes...
I used to own a t mobile mda compact and as I recall the nav button (circle) used to flash on a circular motion to give an indication of some sort of alert be it a missed call or a text message for example. Has this feature been overlooked on the Vario IV, touchpro or is there something I need to do in order to enable this useful feature?
If I am honest my patience is beginning to wear thin with this device and its growing list of flaws/missing features which have been left to talented guys on these forums to sort out. Surely T mobile has had plenty enough time iron out these things before this phones release.. (we waited long enough for the thing after all)
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Apparently you can turn the LED on or off doe missed calls and messages and things like that according to the posts below mine.
There is no way to turn the feature when charging. So if your navigation light does not work when the phone is charging. Then i would say try a hard reset (make sure you backup) and if that does not work then you might have to send your device for warranty or exchange it whatever your options are.
On my Vario IV the settings for flashing the light (around the touch circle thingummy - I really need to read up on what it's called) were disabled by default.
So, under settings/personal/sounds & notifications, check that in the notifications tab that "flash light" is checked for e-mail, text, whatever. Actually, just checked mine after a hard reset and had to re-enable
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There is no way to turn the feature on or off on the Touch Pros OR Fuze. So if your navigation light does not work when the phone is charging or if you have a text or missed call. Then i would say try a hard reset (make sure you backup) and if that does not work then you might have to send your device for warranty or exchange it whatever your options are.
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Actually there is a way to turn on/off the feature for different events (except charging).
Try Start > Settings > Personal > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications
When you choose something like New Text Message, you see an option to "Flash light". Check the box and choose how long you want the nav light to flash.
EDIT: Never mind...forgot to post it and it's a little late.
Thanks guys for your suggestions.. I'll try some of this stuff out and get back to you as to whether any of it worked for me.
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I saw this thread and thought that I'd like this too. I have a stock Sprint TP Rom. I checked out my notification settings and the Flash Light option is there for everything but Incoming Call. However, it's greyed out and won't let me check it. Is there a reason this would be disabled?
Kevin
Hello!
chewie8han said:
I saw this thread and thought that I'd like this too. I have a stock Sprint TP Rom. I checked out my notification settings and the Flash Light option is there for everything but Incoming Call. However, it's greyed out and won't let me check it. Is there a reason this would be disabled?
Kevin
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It probably becouse on incoming call the whole divice is waked up and the send key is blinking.
There is also settings>sounds and notifications>notifications "phone:missed calls". There you can set an action: popup, blinking and vibration.
hope this helps (names of the options translated from polish TP stock ROM so mey not be acurate )
BHole
Thanks folks..!!
Seems like I totally missed those options for the flashlight alerts. They all work for me now. I have combined them with various ringtones to differentiate the alerts i'm getting. It appears the flashlight indicates alerts even when the device is being charged. Thanks again guys, at least "SOMETHING" now works as expected.
Rooted and ran ruu....updated and now I get the annoying vibrate when I hit a number on the dial pad. Seen posts elsewhere about it. Anyone else confirm? Am I missing a setting somewhere? (and yes vibrate is off on typing input) I was pretty sure that when I first got the hero it did not have that feature. If that is how HTC does updates then ewww. If there is no setting someone please remove it in a ROM!
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Rooted and ran ruu....updated and now I get the annoying vibrate when I hit a number on the dial pad. Seen posts elsewhere about it. Anyone else confirm? Am I missing a setting somewhere? (and yes vibrate is off on typing input) I was pretty sure that when I first got the hero it did not have that feature. If that is how HTC does updates then ewww. If there is no setting someone please remove it in a ROM!
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Wow you're right.....! I'll have to look in to removing that for a future release of fresh rom. It was for sure not on there before, but I did post in my thread that changes in the files (even though small) were made to every single stock app.
mcdroid said:
Rooted and ran ruu....updated and now I get the annoying vibrate when I hit a number on the dial pad. Seen posts elsewhere about it. Anyone else confirm? Am I missing a setting somewhere? (and yes vibrate is off on typing input) I was pretty sure that when I first got the hero it did not have that feature. If that is how HTC does updates then ewww. If there is no setting someone please remove it in a ROM!
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You have to turn off haptic feedback.
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You have to turn off haptic feedback.
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ok maybe i = nub, but the only vibrating feature i have found on phone and in manual is for the typing input, which is already off. Where is the haptic feedback option? i have looked through every setting at least a dozen times....maybe i just have setting blindness
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ok maybe i = nub, but the only vibrating feature i have found on phone and in manual is for the typing input, which is already off. Where is the haptic feedback option? i have looked through every setting at least a dozen times....maybe i just have setting blindness
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Settings>Locales & Text> Touch Input>Text Input> Vibrate when typing
That's just the setting for when you use the keyboard. The keypad is different and it wasn't like this pre-update. It's a bit laggy and annoying.
I agree, been anxious to see what/if HTC says anything about the *new* feature....and thanks flipz for takin a look, and other devs for their awesome work on roms!
you can download "Spare Parts" from the market and turn off haptic feedback from there. May or may not help your issue.
Unfortunately spare parts does not disable it...doh
/bump!
With all the juicy ROM talk and requests....since the MR the vibrating dial pad is horrible. #1 on my list for what I am looking for in a ROM.
Any updates on how to disable vibrating dialer???
It is part of the Sprint RUU update. As far as I know there are no manual options to disable it from a user stand point The devs might be able to find a way to disable it im not sure.
(please delete the other thread)
N1 suffers from one simple but debilitating hardware limitations - lack of hardware buttons.
Since trackball clicking is rarely used, it would be nice to assign a different function to it.
The first function coming to mind has to do with the fact that the device is a phone -
make trackball into a "Send" button.
This is what it should do:
1) whenever not in the dialer app, clicking trackball should bring up/start the dialer.
2) when in the dialer app, and a phone number was entered, clicking trackball should dial the number.
3) when there's an incoming call, clicking the trackball should answer the call.
I know some people with arthritis who would kill for such an app.
Thanks.
If such an app. were to be created, how about the case where the foreground process requires the use of the trackball click? Then every time you clicked it, the phone dialer would load.
I also don't personally thing the Android APIs would allow such a global hook (w/o root), but I'm not the best dev. out there so I'll let the more experienced respond to that one.
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If such an app. were to be created, how about the case where the foreground process requires the use of the trackball click? Then every time you clicked it, the phone dialer would load.
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Well, that's the whole point.
You mean like a game? So far, games might be the only programs where you HAVE to use trackball for functionality.
I think all other programs allow touch screen input in place of the trackball.
Since I never use the trackball for anything, and I've seen a number of comments with the same sentiment (ie "trackball is useless"), I'd gladly trade the entire trackball function (including moving the cursor with the ball) for the ability to have a hardware "send" button.
I'll personally pay 50 dollars to a man/woman who can make this work. Then they can collect the money from thousands of market goers who'd would prefer a useful hardware button over a useless one.
Just a small bump.
why is this in the development section?
/sarcasm
jesus people your right stuff like this should be posted next to / under/ above threads like Cyanogen and Amon_RA
And how would you handle the movement of the ball when it rolls? I find when in recovery, it doesn't take much for the trackball movement to register and overshoot the options I am aiming for if not careful. Obviously a sensitivity setting would be the recourse for such a dilemma but still...or were you thinking that anything beyond buttonOn (false function obviously) is ignored?
Technically you could go as far as to have the tracball pressed trigger the dialer. From there you can scroll to call log, contacts, favourites using the trackball and then scroll down if you so desire.
I do find it odd that the phone has this hardware button and rarely is it actually used.
I think being able to touch the trackball and force the phone out of sleep is a sound expectation for this phone...the fact it isn't there is odd.
just get a sense or blur rom, that fixes everything
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just get a sense or blur rom, that fixes everything
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hahaha...
in other news, plenty of people have no interest in senseUI
One more bump.
Someone should really write this program.
Using the trackball to bring the phone in and out of sleep would drain your battery. That trackball is way to easily pressed (ie in your pocket) to be of any use as that function, but I would love the phone/send function. Would be wonderful as I hate having a phone shortcut on my homescreen.
Would be willing to pay or donate as well.
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Using the trackball to bring the phone in and out of sleep would drain your battery. That trackball is way to easily pressed (ie in your pocket) to be of any use as that function, but I would love the phone/send function. Would be wonderful as I hate having a phone shortcut on my homescreen.
Would be willing to pay or donate as well.
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Thank you. One of very few people who seem to understand this problem.
Anyway, the community's reluctance to implement this feature is a seeming indication of difficulty to do it. Maybe Android OS isn't that flexible; or maybe it's just too new, so people haven't really learned yet how to do things with it.
After all, the Win Mobile OS has been around for ages, and sure enough, as soon my Sprint Touch Pro2 was released, I had an app to rebind all the keys to whatever function I wanted.
Perhaps, in the future, we will see an Android app like the one I want. But, to my greatest disappointment, it may be years...
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I'll bump it one more time.
Any progress with this feature?
Another month has passed...
Has any developer figured out if it'd even be possible to make an app like that?
Thanks.