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Just wanted to let everyone know NOT to buy these screen protectors... I bought one for my XDA II about two weeks ago and it's real crap.
The visual quality is awesome, sylus is smooth; HOWEVER, the touch screen becomes really hard. You need to tap the screen hard before anything will happen. Also, if you get one spec of dust under the screen, that section of the protector will not stick to the screen and you'll get a big bubble.
Save your $15US
It is probably the placement of the protector thats causing the problem, I suggest you see how close to the edges it is sitting, even a tiny part of the protector tucked under the edge can stop the screen working completely, I have heard nothing but good about this brand.
It's on there perfectly...
I had a G2 lying around for the Siemens SX56 and thought I would give that a try and see if it's any better. I installed it and it was a little too small (tuck wise), so it would move around slightly if you are playing games. I just put a drop of Super Glue in two corners (clean job) and it's perfect.
Awesome considering I only paid $14US for 2!
I have had no problems with the martin fields screen protector. I've tried to order a G2 screen protector a long time ago - waited two weeks and order never came, so I went with the martin fields. To get a real clean job, its good to have a piece of tape lying around - or use one of those Post it flags to remove the dust on the screen or the screen protector.
And putting superglue on your XDA II is insane. I highly recommend not to if you lack great hand dexterity. *imagines self* :roll:
I think it totally depends which you get... G2 doesn't "really" support the XDA II.
haha, yes yes... I used a small needle and everything. YOU DON'T WANT TOO MUCH GLUE, JUST A DROP TO HOLD IT DOWN. remember, you want to remove it later!
Superglue on your touchscreen??? :shock:
I bought MF and I don't have too much problem - other than my clumsy hands.
The tapping hard is not experienced as said here, but compared to without the screen protector (any one, not necessary MF), you need to tap harder & write harder. :roll:
As for taking the protector out and the dust, I learned the hard way -- use scotchtape to stick up the protector, use the scotchtape to stick off the dust, & don't use water or thinner to clean the sticky side -- use the scotchtape and gently peck on the sticky side. :wink:
cheers
I had the WRITEShield before the MFO's, and although they were great, the MFO's are heaps better. I have to say, I find the required touch to be much lighter than the WS's.
Many of the forum users over at MTekk love them too, infact this is the first complaint.
Hope you get your problems sorted...
Dave
I've no problems so far with MF.
No hard touch screen problem...infact its same as before putting on the protector.
The MF is cool....only minor comment is it will get scratch after a while of intense gaming or writing. Comparable with G2s.
The PDA shop recommend me to change it after 6~8 months....depending on the scratch surface.
So far I've not encountered a clear type Screen protector that doesn't scratch.
The ones from Brando Brand are Matt finished but will last forever without a scratch on it.
I let the shop assistant (actually, he is the boss!) fixed the thing for me and it looked like a tedious task to get a perfect job. The screen need to be cleaned, apply it slowly from the top side and if there is a dust spot, remove with cellotape. I couldn't have done a better job than him!
hmm, that's really weird. I have to tap it at least twice as hard on the edges and three times in the center.
At first I thought my LCD was dead, but I removed the protector and the touch does work awesome.
No problems here either. I've been using MF on all my phones, SE P800/900 and now my Qtek 2020. Also tried Brando's protector but it's not too bright, so prefere the MF.
Don't get me wrong, I love the visual quality, but can't stand the touch of it.
Figures they'd come out with it a week before I'm thinking of picking up an Imate Ultimate 8150. But it's out for those of you interested link below.
P3600 Full Body Invisible Shield
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCP3600I.html
Nice!! It's listed for the P3600i, but I guess it's exactly the same as the P3600.
Anybody tried it already?? Better than a regular silicon cover?
How does this work?
If it is stretched all over the PDA, how is it joined/sealed? What about removing the batter cover or using the thumb wheel? Is it fixed like cling-film?
Also, the screen is recessed from the surround so if it is stretched around the housing and screen, then there would seem to be a gap between the screen and this cover, so what will the sensitivity of the screen be like?
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How does this work?
If it is stretched all over the PDA, how is it joined/sealed? What about removing the batter cover or using the thumb wheel? Is it fixed like cling-film?
Also, the screen is recessed from the surround so if it is stretched around the housing and screen, then there would seem to be a gap between the screen and this cover, so what will the sensitivity of the screen be like?
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If you followed the link and watched the installation video showing it being applied to an ipod you wouldn't have asked.........suggest you try that first.
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If you followed the link and watched the installation video showing it being applied to an ipod you wouldn't have asked.........suggest you try that first.
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looks like it would be a least 3 pieces - one for the screen, then one for the keys, and one for the back - which does not protect the sides. And the video doesn't show how it fits on the phone, it shows how it fits on the front of a ipod - so don't be a smart a*s. He was asking how it fits on this phone not an ipod dumb a*s.
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looks like it would be a least 3 pieces - one for the screen, then one for the keys, and one for the back - which does not protect the sides. And the video doesn't show how it fits on the phone, it shows how it fits on the front of a ipod - so don't be a smart a*s. He was asking how it fits on this phone not an ipod dumb a*s.
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Get life....yes the clip shows it being fitted to an ipod......if you gothered to watch the clip you would have seen that the piece for the back also does the sides as they wrap around.....apart from the size etc the actual method of applying this will be the same.
Next time smart a*s do your homework rather than mouthing off.
Oh yes all my questions answered if only I had watched the ipod video.
Now All I need is an m700 that is exactly the same shape as an ipod, with all the buttons in the same place, with a flush screen, and well, all very ipodish, and then it will all be clear.
So this will be no more than a screen protector on the PDA. It will not protect the buttons or lower raised section of the housing. Also won't protect the sides (too many buttons), and it seems that the tight curves will be a problem for this cover. I can see this peeling off the m700 in a very short time
If you know so much about it, then can you explain how it will work with a recessed screen? Will I be able to tap it all over with a key and not damage the phone, and if I throw it in a box of coins, will all the phone be safe from scratches and chips - just like the ipod?
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Oh yes all my questions answered if only I had watched the ipod video.
Now All I need is an m700 that is exactly the same shape as an ipod, with all the buttons in the same place, with a flush screen, and well, all very ipodish, and then it will all be clear.
So this will be no more than a screen protector on the PDA. It will not protect the buttons or lower raised section of the housing. Also won't protect the sides (too many buttons), and it seems that the tight curves will be a problem for this cover. I can see this peeling off the m700 in a very short time
If you know so much about it, then can you explain how it will work with a recessed screen? Will I be able to tap it all over with a key and not damage the phone, and if I throw it in a box of coins, will all the phone be safe from scratches and chips - just like the ipod?
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Lets get this straight....I haven't used this product...however when I saw the "link" I went to the manufacturers site to get a better understanding of it....
I watched the video and while it was of it being fitted to an ipod I got a basic understanding of how it could be fitted to a P3600i.
I didn't think it was "cling wrap", I understood that there would be several sections involved....including one for the recessed screen (yes, just like a normal screen protector) and I too would be skeptical of it protecting all parts of the phone.
There is a tendency in these forums for people to not search out information but to ask seemingly dumb questions.....
As this product is new for this model....why not just ask if anyone has tried it or ask the manufacturer for more information.....or is that too hard to do????
NOT FULL BODY...JUST SCREEN ONLY
The site says full body not Screen only, that's a separate option...
I would really like to know if and how exactly this works on 3600.
I actually have silicon case and screen protector for mine, but this would make it considerably smaller...
Bought and use the InvisibleShield
Folks,
I bought it and had it send to Holland. Took about 1 to 2 weeks but ok I am not in a hurry.
The full body covers basically all the shiny black plastic plus the screen. The rest (middles of the sides and the front keys) are not covered. Also offcourse the camera, speakers etc are not covered. However, and this is probably the difference between P3600 and P3600i the front camara is covered by the shield blurring the image. Now I have already put it on the camera but the next time I would use a hole puncher to add the extra hole. I probably will use a sharp hobby knife to cut an extra hole (on the other hand I never use video conferencing).
The plastic is more stronger and thicker then normal screen protectors. Haven't tried to scratch it on pupose and guess what I am not going to do it. If a scratch forms by accident I will mention it here.
The screen takes some getting used to with the new cover. The plastic does not "slide" as easy as the original screen protector or the screen itself. Maybe this is just in the first period.
The application process it pretty easy if you just take the time. Takes about 30 minutes if you do it slowly. Only 2 minor bubbles on the back but those are not really an issue, the rest is perfect.
Hey for 20 euro's I think it is a good deal. No horrible rubber case or GPS blocking metal case for me anymore. Only downside is that if the phone is dropped now there is no protection. This is only against scratches.
Lifetime guarantee so lets see how often I have to send it back.
All in all recommended so far (but that is just after 1 day of use)
I want to see it
Post a picture please
Isn't it invisible?..
See the invisible sheet
Well actually it is quit difficult to see but here are some picures. The picture from the side shows you some edges.
Edges
The edges that you can see in the pic don't seem to line up perfectly, how were the dimensions on the rest of the edges?
i've been thinkin of getting one of these since i saw them for ipods but that messy edge is scaring me away a little, also how are you finding the screen protector after a little more use?
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Well the edges are more because of my talent I think. The reason why I showed you this is because at least you can see something. For the rest it alligns perfectly.
After using it for a while it still seems a great product. I accidentaly dropped the thing but no scratch at all. What you do notice is the slightly more pressure you need when using the stylo. Also the screen protector is not as smooth as the original screen making the sliding a little more difficult. Also the plastic sticks to your ear while calling. But all in all still recommended.
I just put it onto the white one...
...and it is invisible. You can see it only on buttons' silver surrounding, on white parts only the edges are visible if you try really hard. I haven't got a good enough camera to show it, sorry.
It has a sticky feeling about it (maybe needs to dry more?). I don't like it on the screen - feels sticky and thick. I'd say use a decent screen protector instead.
It came WITH the cut-out for a camera (it's 3600i shield, I've got 3600), so it fits like a glove.
Oh, it's not a stress-free, low pressure 15 minutes application like they advertise it. It's fekkin pain in the ar$e one hour job, you're swetting your ar$e off. And - I guess - you can never get it perfect at the end. There will always be a bubble or misaligned edge somewhere (or is it me?).
Long term use review to follow.
sabestian said:
...and it is invisible. You can see it only on buttons' silver surrounding, on white parts only the edges are visible if you try really hard. I haven't got a good enough camera to show it, sorry.
It has a sticky feeling about it (maybe needs to dry more?). I don't like it on the screen - feels sticky and thick. I'd say use a decent screen protector instead.
It came WITH the cut-out for a camera (it's 3600i shield, I've got 3600), so it fits like a glove.
Oh, it's not a stress-free, low pressure 15 minutes application like they advertise it. It's fekkin pain in the ar$e one hour job, you're swetting your ar$e off. And - I guess - you can never get it perfect at the end. There will always be a bubble or misaligned edge somewhere (or is it me?).
Long term use review to follow.
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Any update to report? I'm thinking about buying one and would like your oppinion since you've now had it for a while.
Dimitri- said:
Folks,
I bought it and had it send to Holland. Took about 1 to 2 weeks but ok I am not in a hurry.
The full body covers basically all the shiny black plastic plus the screen. The rest (middles of the sides and the front keys) are not covered. Also offcourse the camera, speakers etc are not covered. However, and this is probably the difference between P3600 and P3600i the front camara is covered by the shield blurring the image. Now I have already put it on the camera but the next time I would use a hole puncher to add the extra hole. I probably will use a sharp hobby knife to cut an extra hole (on the other hand I never use video conferencing).
The plastic is more stronger and thicker then normal screen protectors. Haven't tried to scratch it on pupose and guess what I am not going to do it. If a scratch forms by accident I will mention it here.
The screen takes some getting used to with the new cover. The plastic does not "slide" as easy as the original screen protector or the screen itself. Maybe this is just in the first period.
The application process it pretty easy if you just take the time. Takes about 30 minutes if you do it slowly. Only 2 minor bubbles on the back but those are not really an issue, the rest is perfect.
Hey for 20 euro's I think it is a good deal. No horrible rubber case or GPS blocking metal case for me anymore. Only downside is that if the phone is dropped now there is no protection. This is only against scratches.
Lifetime guarantee so lets see how often I have to send it back.
All in all recommended so far (but that is just after 1 day of use)
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Same question for you... Any updates? Thank you...
Definately recommended
After using it a few months I still think it is definately worth the few euro's. Ok it sticks a bit when calling for a long time and I think I even managed to get a small scratch on it but I sort of abuse the fact that I have the shield. Store it with keys, never use a case etc.
No I have bought some useless accessoires such as aluminium case (blocks GPS) and the remote for mediaplayer but the shield I would really recommend.
Cheers,
Dimitri.
Ok, i've had a problem with it, first i removed the protector that was as large as the device and made the screen very ugly, then i got the one from the box and putted it on, every air-bulb was gone when i kept rubbing etc.
1 stayed, under that bulb there was something white, i found out it was a 'piece' of dust.
It was kind of annoying so i removed the screen-protector, now when im trying to put it on i get lots of 'dust-bubbles',
Anyone has an idea of how to do it or should i just leave my diamond without the screen protector?
Protection
Personally i prefer to have a screenprotecter on my device. I can recommend invisible shield. its very durable and will not be scratched. check it out on www.zagg.com
If you remove the protector, then there will alway be dust next time, because the dust get stuck to the protector glue. (I have also remove mine several times)
I have tried zagg, but I can't recommend it. It is a little sticky (which they also says on their homepage) and I don't like that. The floating feeling is gone. It is also not that invisible.
I have selected to buy a new original protector, and will use that.
The trick to get it on without bobbles is to start on the long edge and then slowly add it. (Keep the 'paper' on as long a possible).
(Michael
willyy1991 said:
Ok, i've had a problem with it, first i removed the protector that was as large as the device and made the screen very ugly, then i got the one from the box and putted it on, every air-bulb was gone when i kept rubbing etc.
1 stayed, under that bulb there was something white, i found out it was a 'piece' of dust.
It was kind of annoying so i removed the screen-protector, now when im trying to put it on i get lots of 'dust-bubbles',
Anyone has an idea of how to do it or should i just leave my diamond without the screen protector?
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The original is washable. Wash it and dry it with a paper towel that sucks in the water bubbles, wipe dry and clean your screen and reapply it.
By the way, this goes to Accessories forum.
mhfalken said:
If you remove the protector, then there will alway be dust next time, because the dust get stuck to the protector glue. (I have also remove mine several times)
I have tried zagg, but I can't recommend it. It is a little sticky (which they also says on their homepage) and I don't like that. The floating feeling is gone. It is also not that invisible.
I have selected to buy a new original protector, and will use that.
The trick to get it on without bobbles is to start on the long edge and then slowly add it. (Keep the 'paper' on as long a possible).
(Michael
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Where can you buy a new one, i need it really fast because my phone is without protection right now and no i am affraid of pressing it to hard to leave a permanent mark..
tnyynt said:
The original is washable. Wash it and dry it with a paper towel that sucks in the water bubbles, wipe dry and clean your screen and reapply it.
By the way, this goes to Accessories forum.
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I did this and the dust keeps coming at the protector and my phone and there will be bubles because the dust gives it a 'height-problem'..
I bought invisible shield for mine, its pretty nice after say 4 days from install.
For first 2 days it might seem really bad but it gets much better.
I somehow scratched it without even noticing it, so I sent picture to zagg and they sent me new one. Even though scratch was very minor.
mhf
hi. this my first post on this web site
excuse me for my bad english
i have a diamond and i remove orginal screen protecter because i write sms with letter recorgnizer and the area that i write words on the screen become white and scratch. i remove orginal and buy a new one that for iphone. i cut it for my phone size and apply it. its sooo much stiky and i have a problem like orginal one.i wnat to remove it and when i do it a tiny layer of glue stand on my diamond screen. i can't clean it. and it give a bad scene to my diamond.
what's your idea. i give u a pichture from my diamond screen.
Perhaps you could use isopropyl alcohol, usually it will remove glue without damaging the plastics surface (in that case: your display). DON'T USE nail polish remover, acetone or even benzine, it will remove the glue too - but your display would look "milky". You can get isopropyl alcohol at the pharmacy.
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mhf said:
hi. this my first post on this web site
excuse me for my bad english
i have a diamond and i remove orginal screen protecter because i write sms with letter recorgnizer and the area that i write words on the screen become white and scratch. i remove orginal and buy a new one that for iphone. i cut it for my phone size and apply it. its sooo much stiky and i have a problem like orginal one.i wnat to remove it and when i do it a tiny layer of glue stand on my diamond screen. i can't clean it. and it give a bad scene to my diamond.
what's your idea. i give u a pichture from my diamond screen.
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You might be interested in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421229
I didn't get a screen protector with mine... I mean, I had a shipment protector with a little tab for peeling off, but nothing came with it for long term use. It's a Sprint, did they just not include one?
the exim screen protector is very good and smooth
I always use the Brando screenprotectors. See their online shop. They ship worldwide for only $ 3,00 shippingcosts.
It is very easy to install, easy to clean, 100% garanteed scratch free and very durable.
iixnullxii said:
I didn't get a screen protector with mine... I mean, I had a shipment protector with a little tab for peeling off, but nothing came with it for long term use. It's a Sprint, did they just not include one?
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I've got a Sprint Diamond too, and didn't think I got a protector either, but it was in the separate bag that has the manuals. It should have come with one...Wish it woulda come with an extra one too, oh well.
I had the same problem with misalignment and dust bubbles with the HTC protector on my first few tries...i did however fix the problem...
Take the protector off and clean off the phone...use a microfiber cloth to get all the dust and oil off...after its super clean...take the protector and wash it off with some mild soap...rub the soap in with your fingers and get it clean. Be sure to note which side is down. After its clean, hold it around the edges and let the water bead off...i blew on the protector to get residual water off...some water is ok...actually helps with the install...the basically carefully apply it still holding the sides making sure not to leave finger prints. Start from the top and work your way down... i used a credit card pushed against the microfiber cloth to squeegie the protector down...be carefull with the few drops of water. After you have it down...there might be little bubbles or what looks like water spots where water is trapped under the screen...dont worry...just use your phone and leave it alone. Once it heats up from the excessive phone use it will start to dry up and the protector will come out very nice and smooth. Mine is flawless and i did the wash with soap apply and remove at least 3 or 4 times to get it right...Just be patient
I use screen protector from martinfields, what do you say about, anyone have one??
I think the best in market
My HTC one got a nasty scratch in it last week, so I ordered a Martin Fields.
It arrived this morning and I've got it on without any problems. So far I've noticed:
- It's not a perfect fit like the HTC one was. The hole for the speaker at the top is larger than the hole in the phone. It's not bad though.
- The visibility of the screen does seem better than the HTC protector, but I don't know if it's just the placebo effect of having a more expensive protector.
- It was _easy_ to put on, no bubbles at all
- The protector for the bottom buttons is awful. The circle is just the right size to completely hinder using the touch wheel and it's obvious that you've got a piece of plastic on there.
- It seems smoother than the original HTC one when using the stylus.
So far I'm impressed with it. I didn't bother with the camera hole or bottom hard buttons. The in box HTC one was fine for me, but when I got a scratch on it (my stylus somehow developed a sharp edge), it annoyed me.
I'm using the one supplied as standard with a uk CompactIV and it's great- you can hardly tell it's thereand the sensitivity seems fine.
I have 24 diamond screen protectors. Because i bought 24 diamonds and sold them all without screen protectors so i am sorted untill i buy another phone.
After using the martin fields one for a couple of days, I think it's great.
The screen looks much brighter and clearer through it (I thought the HTC one was great, but I do notice the difference). Plus the smoothness is brilliant, theres pretty much no friction for the stylus or fingers
where can i purchase the htc screen protector? the original that comes in the box...
I was peeling off my bodyguardz screen protector to put on a new one, and the darn thing was so stuck to my screen it took a lot of force to peel it off. As I was pulling it away I noticed that my "screen" seemed to be lifted off my HTC fuze!! After I kept pealing I noticed from the side that there was a film that was peeling off that had adhesive to the screen with the body guardz. I'm too scared to proceed and have left my phone that way.. my question is there a protective film (not counting any sort of screen protector even the one that comes with the fuze) on top of the screen, and that was what was peeling off? Is that film important for the touch screen itself aside from protecting it (or does it keep some part of the screen in place etc etc).
Thanks in advance, the screen does turn on and is still touch sensitive but I'm too scared to peel off the rest of the body guardz that have that "film" come off with it.
Someone removed that and lost their touchscreen so be scared IMHO.
aaahhhhh can you link me to that post? I tried doing a search, I cant separate that film from the bodyguardz either... =(
I think it is the digitizer that is comming off, or part of it anyways... the only thing I could find online is this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392301&page=3
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Hello again
So
After giving it a lot of thought, i decided to disasamble my phone to see if i can get rid of that stain. I have to say that it was a bit difficult to folow the guide but i finaly opened my cruise.
In the end i realised where was my problem.
The digitizer has 2 components:
A glass layer witch is on the bottom, and a plastic one (on top) witch are keppt together by twosided adhesive tape.
The "stain" was caused by the plastic layer, witch for some reason wasn't staying straight (it had a small bump...).
I figured this out when i pealed this layer from the glass one, witch i shouldn't have done because the layer has a connection with the glass and the small ribbon witch goes into the mb.
So for any of you, if you encounter my problem, better let it that way, cause the alternative will be a new digitizer.
I'll go to the htc service in romania to see how much will they charge me for a new one, and if the amount is to much, i'll try to order one from the web(altho not that many companies ship to my country )
Wish me luck.
LE: I have a question thow
How can you remove the digitizer from the casing ?
I tryed to pull it but i was afraid to damage something (else).
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Heres a link to the picture the guy with the polaris took... the HTC black bordered part is still on the screen but there is a film sitting on top of it thats peeling off with the bodyguardz.
This is a cruise polaris and not a raphael but I think this post is referencing the same thing. Does anyone have any advice to give me? My phone is still sitting there with half of the "digitizer" peeled off stuck to the bodyguardz grrrrrrr
bump...........
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I was peeling off my bodyguardz screen protector to put on a new one, and the darn thing was so stuck to my screen it took a lot of force to peel it off. As I was pulling it away I noticed that my "screen" seemed to be lifted off my HTC fuze!! After I kept pealing I noticed from the side that there was a film that was peeling off that had adhesive to the screen with the body guardz. I'm too scared to proceed and have left my phone that way.. my question is there a protective film (not counting any sort of screen protector even the one that comes with the fuze) on top of the screen, and that was what was peeling off? Is that film important for the touch screen itself aside from protecting it (or does it keep some part of the screen in place etc etc).
Thanks in advance, the screen does turn on and is still touch sensitive but I'm too scared to peel off the rest of the body guardz that have that "film" come off with it.
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That has happened to me as well. I'm afraid you'll just have to get another digitizer off ebay.
ughhh!! any help on the assembly?
Spray some of the liquid that came with it on the touchscreen (underneath the bodyguardz screen protector; spray little by little or use your finger) and it should come off with a little less effort without tearing out the screen. That's what I did. Btw, make sure you turn off your phone and dry it before you turn it back on if you do that
Recently received the Phantom Skinz Full Body set and have gone through installation.
Here's the breakdown:
The Pros:
- The Screen Skin looks good and feels good. The extra drag vs. the stock glass is slight and the overall clarity is very good (doesn't have any noticeable detraction from the crisp, contrasty screen).
- The main screen skin and front overlays were fairly easy to apply and once dried have a very nice unobtrusive look
- Comes with 2 sets of skins
The Cons:
- included directions are WAY OFF from the install video on their site. Soaking times, how long to let it sit and dry, etc...
- Edge bubbling on every corner for the back overlays. Directions say to "cup the corner with palms and hold 30 seconds", but I've done it over and over again and they keep popping off after a short while
- A WHOLE LOT of wet work involved in applying these skins. Application involves soaking the skin in water first, then (as instructed) with your fingers fully wet, take the wet skin and put it wet onto the phone and then use the included credit card shaped "squeegy" to push out the extra water. Not so much a big deal for the screen skin, but getting that much water around and near the audio/mic/power and such ports while putting on the body skins is asking for trouble.
Final Thoughts
I imagine in some small (heck, maybe in large) part, the corner bubbling issue is due to me not applying the skin properly. But I'm not some clueless granny that doesn't know the difference between a mouse and a blackberry and the included instructions are vague in important places and almost completely different than the video instructions shown at their website (for example; The included instructions say to use warm water WITH SOAP)
Bottom line: Stick with just the screen skin, skip the full body.
The online video instructions say to use soap as well. IIRC, she said that at their facility, they use one drop of Johnson's baby shampoo per 32 oz of water.
I would avoid Phantom Skinz altogether. Here's the review I posted about my experience with one of them on my Moto Droid in the skins topic.
Phantom Skinz
I got a PS for my Moto Droid because I didn't want something as grippy as the Zagg. PS had great reviews and came with 2 full sets for the price of 1 zagg with 33% off on top of that ($16.50 in the end). The first installation of the screen got some dust and fuzz under it since I was OCD about getting it perfect, so I emailed them and they sent me a replacement for free no questions asked. I know it did come with two sets of protectors but I wanted to keep one as a backup still. Second installation was perfect. No dirt, dust, fuzz or finger prints. Screen was perfectly smooth (no orange peel) and the touch felt almost the same as the glass. Put the rest of the body on without a problem as well with just a few bubbles in some of the tougher spots. I was very impressed, but now a month later I am not so much. After daily use taking my phone in and out of my pocket (sometimes shared with keys) the skin is filled with knicks and wrinkles. While the film may not technically scratch, it is vulnerable to indentations and air bubbles forming which do not "self heal". Instead of scratching, it seems like the skin stretches in place, resulting in a wrinkle/groove with little marks that look like air bubbles underneath. Not only does it make the screen look dirty, but you feel them while using the touch screen. As I write this, I just dug my finger nail into the screen and tried to scratch it, leaving another permanent groove. Needless to say, I will be taking off the PS and throwing it in the trash. The rest of the body has surprisingly stayed pretty clean of wrinkles, so it may have something to do with its application on glass. I will put some pictures up when I get the chance this evening. Overall, I would not recommend PhantomSkinz. It looked and felt great for a couple weeks, but now every day I am finding more and more knicks and wrinkles and that is just unacceptable compared to others. This skin is NOT scratch proof like other comparable skins on the market! However, I will commend their customer service for being very helpful and quick to reply.
And here a pictures of what it looks like:
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Bottom line here as that they are smoother than other brands but scratch pretty easily. You should check back in on this topic in a month or two and see if your opinion has changed.
I applied the full body skin about a week ago. There's definitely a lot of water involved but most of the danger can be avoided with some caution. I used Q-tips to do a lot of the credit card work around the edges so that it soaked up the water it pushed out.
A good trick for the corners is to use some sealant/piping tape to hold them down. This is a lot better than using your hand for 30 seconds, and you can leave it there for as long as you want (I left the tape on mine for 2 days since I wasn't going anywhere that I needed to show off my phone, I figured why not? Now my corners are perfect).
So far I like PhantomSkinz because it wraps the corners a little better than the other skins. Bodyguardz is a little better in clarity and material. InvisibleShield has too much of the orange peel effect. Haven't had a chance to try BestSkinsEver.
As for detonation's review, it's too early for me to tell if I'll have the same problems, but I agree that the material doesn't seem on par with InvisibleShield or BodyGuardz. But since I still used the carrying case and treat my phone with much care even with the skin on, I don't think it'll be too much of a problem.
I recently got the phantom skinz full body set, after I read the instructions I thought that there was no way I was applying wet/soapy film to my N1, it just doesn't make any sense. Water/soap plus electronics? Its a recipe for disaster, besides the fact that I suck at arts and crafts type stuff just like this. I would imagine I would get water somewhere inside the device, and knowing me it would reach the many water detectors in the phone. It doesn't seem worth it, so I applied just the screen part sans water/soap, and needless to say it sucked big time, even when I got all the bubbles out.. it had a terrible gray haze on parts of the screen it was bad (maybe due to not using the water/soap method). Can any one suggest just a simple screen protector that doesn't' require to dunk your device in water?
boxmander said:
I recently got the phantom skinz full body set, after I read the instructions I thought that there was no way I was applying wet/soapy film to my N1, it just doesn't make any sense. Water/soap plus electronics? Its a recipe for disaster, besides the fact that I suck at arts and crafts type stuff just like this. I would imagine I would get water somewhere inside the device, and knowing me it would reach the many water detectors in the phone. It doesn't seem worth it, so I applied just the screen part sans water/soap, and needless to say it sucked big time, even when I got all the bubbles out.. it had a terrible gray haze on parts of the screen it was bad (maybe due to not using the water/soap method). Can any one suggest just a simple screen protector that doesn't' require to dunk your device in water?
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Dude... you BARELY have to use any water to get the screen to turn out right. Sorry you wasted your PS... but ask them for a replacement, and mail it to me! I do this **** with my eyes closed. It's really not rocket science, and you don't have to "dunk" your phone in water.
boxmander said:
I recently got the phantom skinz full body set, after I read the instructions I thought that there was no way I was applying wet/soapy film to my N1, it just doesn't make any sense. Water/soap plus electronics? Its a recipe for disaster, besides the fact that I suck at arts and crafts type stuff just like this. I would imagine I would get water somewhere inside the device, and knowing me it would reach the many water detectors in the phone. It doesn't seem worth it, so I applied just the screen part sans water/soap, and needless to say it sucked big time, even when I got all the bubbles out.. it had a terrible gray haze on parts of the screen it was bad (maybe due to not using the water/soap method). Can any one suggest just a simple screen protector that doesn't' require to dunk your device in water?
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you didnt follow the instructions and it didnt work well for you? gtfo
boxmander said:
I recently got the phantom skinz full body set, after I read the instructions I thought that there was no way I was applying wet/soapy film to my N1, it just doesn't make any sense. Water/soap plus electronics? Its a recipe for disaster, besides the fact that I suck at arts and crafts type stuff just like this. I would imagine I would get water somewhere inside the device, and knowing me it would reach the many water detectors in the phone. It doesn't seem worth it, so I applied just the screen part sans water/soap, and needless to say it sucked big time, even when I got all the bubbles out.. it had a terrible gray haze on parts of the screen it was bad (maybe due to not using the water/soap method). Can any one suggest just a simple screen protector that doesn't' require to dunk your device in water?
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Try clairivue or martin fields. Just do a google search since I can't post links yet.
typ_ex said:
you didnt follow the instructions and it didnt work well for you? gtfo
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LOL! i agree. i have had no issues at all with my phantomskinz- both on the magic and now my nexus- i'll admit i do suck at installing them but what i do is get a bowl o water, put a few drops of baby shampoo in swich it around a bit, then dunk the piece in there- hold it over bowl until excess is removed then you can put it on device- the soap/water allows you to move it into position easily and helps squeegee the bubbles....
i wouldnt blame a product because you didnt follow their instructions how to install it...
I actually prefer the bowl of soapy water to the sprays that come with other skins. Submerging it ensures the entire skin is lubed up, and the small amounts of drips on the device is harmless. Just let it dry out overnight before turning it on.
I think Martins is completely over priced. I tried BSE and Phantom and all works great. Once dried it is practically invisible with only the slightest orange peel effect. I'm pretty OCD and it is minimal enough that it doesn't bother me. What does bother is that both of the screen protectors are slightly shorter than the screen.
As for applying the phantom and drowning in water as people are saying I don't do that. I've put on enough of these to know you only need a slight amount. I use a spray and just mist the backing so that it is enough to be able to adjust when putting on but not dripping with water. I use a cloth to absorb the water on the edges as I push the bubbles/excess water out. Fairly easy process. It just takes a slow hand and patience.
pongalong said:
A good trick for the corners is to use some sealant/piping tape to hold them down. This is a lot better than using your hand for 30 seconds, and you can leave it there for as long as you want (I left the tape on mine for 2 days since I wasn't going anywhere that I needed to show off my phone, I figured why not? Now my corners are perfect).
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Ok I have to ask: what is sealant / piping tape? And where do you buy that? Home Depot? Bed, Bath and Beyond?
Paul22000 said:
Ok I have to ask: what is sealant / piping tape? And where do you buy that? Home Depot? Bed, Bath and Beyond?
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Some might know it as teflon tape, thread seal tape or plumbers tape. It's a thin white non-adhesive tape that you use on pipes/hoses to make connections water tight. Home Depot would have it or any hardware store - it's pretty common. Just cut a few good length pieces and wrap your phone up like a mummy on the difficult spots. It works well because it's stretchy, conforms to shape and naturally adheres to the phone skin.
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Some might know it as teflon tape, thread seal tape or plumbers tape. It's a thin white non-adhesive tape that you use on pipes/hoses to make connections water tight. Home Depot would have it or any hardware store - it's pretty common. Just cut a few good length pieces and wrap your phone up like a mummy on the difficult spots. It works well because it's stretchy, conforms to shape and naturally adheres to the phone skin.
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...and it's non-stick!
typ_ex said:
you didnt follow the instructions and it didnt work well for you? gtfo
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Like I mentioned before, my application didn't work well cause I didn't follow the instructions. And I wasn't hating on PS, get a grip. Besides after some people posted about this topic I might give it another go, PS gave me two for one so I can redo it. Why are you here? Perhaps you should try posting things that are more constructive.
pongalong said:
Some might know it as teflon tape, thread seal tape or plumbers tape. It's a thin white non-adhesive tape that you use on pipes/hoses to make connections water tight. Home Depot would have it or any hardware store - it's pretty common. Just cut a few good length pieces and wrap your phone up like a mummy on the difficult spots. It works well because it's stretchy, conforms to shape and naturally adheres to the phone skin.
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Interesting. I'll definitely get some. Thanks for the tip.
Hmm... I'm going to go to Home Depot to buy some kind of special tape I've never heard of to wrap up my phone like a mummy in order to prevent the corners from lifting on my phone's skin protector. Phone enthusiast or what?
Phantom does have the best skins by far...
The trick to installation to make it perfect:
Use the Johnson's/water mix as they advised.
Ignore all of their other directions.
Peel off the piece you want to apply. Dryly.
Dip your fingers in the water and apply it to the skin using your fingers.
Once both sides of the skin are wet, use your fingers as a squeegee to pull off any excess water.
Apply the skin to your phone. Keep the skin sitting on your phone in it's original shape.
Use your fingers, not the applicator card, to squeegee out the air bubbles. You don't need to apply very much pressure at all. The bubbles move around extremely easily.
Now, let the skin dry for about 2 minutes. Once you notice the skin starting to cling to the phone a little harder, grab the ends that you need to wrap around the phone and stretch them into place. This is the key step. Stretching it makes it stick so much better, the corners align perfectly with the phone when you do this, and all the gaps left between the skin pieces when you don't stretch it are gone. The skin has to be stretched to fit the phone, otherwise the pieces will all be a little to small and the corners will blow.
Repeat with the other pieces.
Enjoy your sexily phantom skinned N1.
anyone with pics of this case ?
I just wanted to comment about Phantom Skinz because I have had a really good experience with them and I am going to get another set from them as soon as they release it for the HD2!
I got Phantom Skinz for a Nano about a year ago and it has been awesome! I bought the PS retail (they have a location in my area) so I only got one set, but I did it myself with no problems. I had to take it off for a warranty replacement on the Nano and I put the same skin back on the new Nano and it looks just as good as it did on the first application. It's awesome that it can be taken off and put back on again using only water.
I got GA for my G1, but it is the worst product ever. I had it professionally installed at a Ghost Armor location because I wanted it to be perfect for my baby. But it didn't even last a month before it started peeling! GA can only be applied once with a special solution (thats what the GA salespeople told me) and it can't be fixed with water like Phantom Skinz. Phantom Skinz has never actually peeled like the GA did, but at least I could fix PS with water if I needed to!
I literally had the full body GA skin replaced 4 times in the course of a year because it peeled so bad and I am not just talking the corners! I did everything they told me to; keep the phone in a case so it doesnt rub in your pocket, keep any liquid of the phone (durr), don't leave the skin in prolonged sunlight, blah bla blah.
It was $35 for the original GA skin and installation and then they charged me $10 labor for the "free warranty replacement" every time I had the skin redone. Oh, and they changed the GA product for my phone 3 times out of the 4 I got it replaced and the changes never fixed any of the problems I had with the skin. GA also yellowed really bad and actually got progressively worse over the course of their " improved product revisions". The last time I had the G1 wrapped the skin was a pretty moderate yellow in about a week...
The salespeople sucked me in every time with leading me to believe the GA skin for the G1 was revised and the problems were fixed. I spent way too much money on their crappy ass product!
Ghost Armor is an awful product! Please just stay the hell away from them!
There is no need to submerge anything in any fluid. I have installed clear skins on many devices by using soapy water. I dont spray it on the phone, I spray a small mist on the protector before applying. Trust me there is not enough water to damage anything because as i push out the bubble I wipe the water.
If you are concerned about it then remove the battery and wait a day like the other people have suggested. once the process is complete the skin will need to settle for a few days before it looks good.
I used some spray that came with a skin before and I did not like it compared to the soapy water MIST.
I also do not use the skin on touch screens because my finger drags on it compared to other screen protectors that are designed to protect the screen.