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Two questions:
1. How do I tell what generation my Prophet is? I see a lot of references to G3 and G4 but no information on how to work this out.
2. I currently have the latest i-mate JAMin rom, which is AKU2.0. Is there is a stable AKU2.3 ROM people have been using or is this still "experimental" It's hard to work this out from the threads.
Thanks all.
spaceboy said:
Two questions:
1. How do I tell what generation my Prophet is? I see a lot of references to G3 and G4 but no information on how to work this out.
2. I currently have the latest i-mate JAMin rom, which is AKU2.0. Is there is a stable AKU2.3 ROM people have been using or is this still "experimental" It's hard to work this out from the threads.
Thanks all.
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1: during bootup, 2nd screen find
SPL
2.xx.0001 = g4
2.xx.0000 = g3
2: aku 2.3 seems very stable. Everything works as expected. i've only installed one version, after reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ht=16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
it's the 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe from this sites' ftp. It has been much more stable and responsive (due to the larger cache) then the preinstalled AKU2.0 on my qtek s200. Boot time is shortened by about 20s.
Before you install this you HAVE to unlock the CID:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
i didn't do this first time, and had to find a valid qtek rom that would install, since my device didn't bootup anymore..
Thanks for that. A question about unlocking the CID:
On the Prophet upgrade page you link to, it has the warning (3 times, in bold!): *WARNING!!!!! DO NOT PERFORM THIS IF YOUR PROPHET HAS THIS ROM "SPL 2.xx.0001" (New G4 Version)
Don't all G4's have that ROM? Mine does (2.13.0001). So where does that leave us for unlocking?
Thanks again.
Im also running a JAMin with the latest official rom and ive seen some good things about the 2.3 updates but im new to the whole cooked roms thing but ill figure it out.
What would I loose by upgrading from my JAMin rom and what would I gain?
Can I go back to my jamin rom if I dont like it?
I have installed the latest DOPOD ROM and I run it native without any soft installed and I reboot only about 1 a month!
To partially answer my own question: The CID unlock process looks like it IS for G3s only. To upgrade G4s you use pdocwrite.exe.
I've seen the details for using pdocwrite to install the pdamobiz ROM, but has anyone used it to install the 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe?
Cheers
dannyoneill said:
Im also running a JAMin with the latest official rom and ive seen some good things about the 2.3 updates but im new to the whole cooked roms thing but ill figure it out.
What would I loose by upgrading from my JAMin rom and what would I gain?
Can I go back to my jamin rom if I dont like it?
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I'm guessing you'd loose some of the vendor customisations - which really are only some useless themes and the network provider settings - which for me just means setting up GPRS. Of course, you also risk loosing your JAMin entirely if you stuff it up
What you gain is a more up-to-date OS which is faster...
what about the extended rom? all the custom stuff is in there, i can access it no probs but would that remain with the rom mentioned above?
would I still be able to run them (if I back them up)
just been researching this rom, looks like it defaults overclocks your device and installs a ton and I mean a ton of apps that most people dont want.
Be warned, its heavily customized and may not be to everyones liking.
Anyone know if I do upgrade to this and unlock my CID if I can then re-apply the official JAMin rom?
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just been researching this rom, looks like it defaults overclocks your device and installs a ton and I mean a ton of apps that most people dont want.
Be warned, its heavily customized and may not be to everyones liking.
Anyone know if I do upgrade to this and unlock my CID if I can then re-apply the official JAMin rom?
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To anyone reading this, here is my experience as of last night.
On my G4 I tried installing 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe after first hard-resetting my device. The installer went ahead fine, but it would not start-up: it would not get past the boot loader screen. So I reinstalled the latest i-mate ROM, booted up, then proceeded to try: ftp://xda:[email protected]/2006-10-05_Upgrade ROM_AKU2.3_lvsw.rar.
This uses the PDAmobiz method to upgrade a G4 which is essentially running a batch file while it unlocks and writes to the ExtRom and the ROM - then doing a hard reset, but it is not the PDAmobiz ROM.
This worked fine, and I now have AKU2.3. Even better, it is not customised, so there's no extra software installed, which I'm happy about. It's been running over night and seems very stable so far. I'm not sure what the paging size is on the ROM, maybe it's smaller = more stability.
So that's my experience!
My experience:
My JAMin running IPL/SPL 2.13.0001 using that rar file that worked for you...
hung on the copy of the OS to the device.
Trying now to recover it by downloading and trying to install latest JAMin update.
I cant get activesync / network connection using USB to phone... Don't know if that will be a problem trying to recover. Its sitting at the 3 colour screen atm.
Is there a way for me to update to IPL/SPL 2.15.0001 from 2.13.0001 before trying again? (assuming my phone is not already dead).
orian said:
My experience:
My JAMin running IPL/SPL 2.13.0001 using that rar file that worked for you...
hung on the copy of the OS to the device.
Trying now to recover it by downloading and trying to install latest JAMin update.
I cant get activesync / network connection using USB to phone... Don't know if that will be a problem trying to recover. Its sitting at the 3 colour screen atm.
Is there a way for me to update to IPL/SPL 2.15.0001 from 2.13.0001 before trying again? (assuming my phone is not already dead).
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If your phone is G4, you should be able to install the vendor ROM no problem - which is magical really. You don't need ActiveSync running; well - it won't connect as the device is dead .
When you say it hung copying the file... it took a good 15-20 minutes to copy across for me, so I hope you weren't just being impatient.
yeah the JAMin rom worked so I'm back where I began.
I did wait 30 mins and it had crashed.... activesync wasnt doing anything, buttons / screen taps weren't working on pda.
Is it because I am running 2.13.0001 is my worry? The update specifies its for 2.15.0001. Is there any way I can update to 2.15.0001 from 2.13.0001 before trying again?
Cheers.
Tried the update again, and this time it worked.
Device is running AKU2.3 now, but still says 2.13.0001 for ipl and spl on boot.
Any ideas anyone on how I can update that to 2.15.0001? and what kind of change that makes anyway?
Thanks all.
dannyoneill said:
just been researching this rom, looks like it defaults overclocks your device and installs a ton and I mean a ton of apps that most people dont want.
Be warned, its heavily customized and may not be to everyones liking.
Anyone know if I do upgrade to this and unlock my CID if I can then re-apply the official JAMin rom?
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you have been researching a different rom. this one does certainly NOT overclock the device by default. And it's a clean install, without any overhead, but WITH the stereo bluetooth headset support. perfect for my uses.
looks like i was looking at another rom, one loaded with junk.
I took the plunge and updated my jamin to the 16mb 4pda rom and im now back on the official jamin, it was way too unstable. Today I rebooted 5 times.
The volume is too low on headset and loud speaker
and some other annoyances.
I need stability
when i'm using AKU2.3,
in Settings / Regional Settings:
there is no "Turkey" option (also Russian).
how can i do that, is there a patch for apply these regions ?
thats why i'm using latest official jamin rom now (wwe) (from clubimate.com)
Ive found the source of instability with the 4PDA rom. Its the radio rom 02.30.21
I went back to my old ROM on my jamin and all was fine, a day without crash, Then loaded on radio rom 02.30.21, hardreset for good measure and setup again,. same as always.
Then, every hour or so im resetting.
Back to official jamin rom and all is fine again.
Radio ROM 02.30.21 is just totally unstable. Ideally I would like the AKU2.3 updated rom but without this awful radio rom they seem to be putting in them all.
Hello all,
i have installed Windows Mobile Crossbow Most Beautiful Edition and every thing wenk ok during the installation but now after i finished flashing the ROM i am stuck on the splash screen and my wizard keeps reseting and fails to pass the splash screen.
i have tried to reflash another ROM but i can't even start the bootloader (3 colors screen)
pleaes, what shall i do?
you already tried holding down the camera button and pressing the power button?
ammar said:
Hello all,
i have installed Windows Mobile Crossbow Most Beautiful Edition and every thing wenk ok during the installation but now after i finished flashing the ROM i am stuck on the splash screen and my wizard keeps reseting and fails to pass the splash screen.
i have tried to reflash another ROM but i can't even start the bootloader (3 colors screen)
pleaes, what shall i do?
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downgrade to this ROM :
http://rapidshare.com/files/18711114/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
this is the way to solve the problem and then after downgrading to this ROM u can the unlock and then install any other ROM but u must first downgrade to this ROM downlaod it from the link above
Perhaps the best way to restore your device its using the Love Rom.
Flash, and flash again the WM6 ROM, follow the Shell Tool method closely and you will have your device working in no time.
It worth the pain, believe me
Hi,
Thanks you all for your help
i have used the camera button and the stylus to get it into the boot loader and then i reflashed my original k-Jam rom with IPL/SPL 2.16 then i flashed again crossbow ROM and it worked.
it seems that after CID unloking i had IPL/SPL 1.01 and i should have reflash a ROM with higher IPL/SPL before WM6. so the idea is to get a stable ROM with SPL 2.26 like everybody here is doing but i tried my 2.16 and it is ok now.
Regards.
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What rom is that you are referring to? Is that the Button rom or the Wizard Love Rom?
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that is the orignal first ROM for Wizard that came out first from the factory with this ROM THIS is the first ROM for wizard i mean the oldest one !!
QUICK FIX for WM6 Won't Boot/Resetting Problem
I've had the problem mentioned in this thread every time I've loaded a WM6 rom. Last summer, I fell in the lake with my wizard so I've always attributed weird problems to the water exposure.
Anyway, when your rom won't boot. Here's a trick that works for me. Do a soft reset, then as soon as you get into the green screen with the spiral, open your keyboard and hold down the space bar. My rom has ALWAYS booted when I do this.
I got the idea from and old PC repair trick. Good luck.
Always upgrade to a 2.xx original ROM before upgrade further. I always use the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM.
Was installing duttys rom when my anti-virus program started. Update failed and since then all I see is the tri-colour screen. Sometimes I can get the rom updater to recognise my TyTNII but it will not continue to upgrade. Any suggestions. Have tried mtty1.42 but it doesn't seem to have a usb port option, have tried hard reset etc with no luck. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
An update, I have tried several rom updates since, most get to the stage where the progress bar is shown and the stop. The HTC update to revert to shipped rom gets to 1% and then tells me that this rom is not suitable for my pda!
How about some more information...
What is your Tytn II - Tilt or HTC?
What Rom was on it before you tried upgrading?
What Radio was on it before you tried upgrading?
What version of Duttys did you try to flash?
Did you upgrade to HardSPL before you tried flashing?
This should enable someone to begin trying to unbrick your phone.
Also DO NOT USE MTTY unless you know what you are doing - it can seriously kill your Tytn if used incorrectly. Wait for GSLEON3 to swing by before trying this - but he's very busy at the moment helping others unbrick their toys so you may have to wait for a while.
If you had an original rom/radio from AT&T or HTC it shouldn't hurt trying to download an original rom and try to flash - preferably using your SD card.
Also, while you're waiting for someone to help, have a good read through the Kaiser Wiki (in my signature) before trying anything else.
what are the steps that u take? let us know if u are missing any
HTC TyTN 11, Was using Q-mobile 1.2 but couldn't install tom tom navigator 6, don't know what radio it was using because i hadn't got that far. Was trying to flash Dutty's 6.1 and I had run jumpspl from device because I got the white screen when I treid to run 1.93 so installed 1.56 to pda and ran it. this worked to insatll Q-mobile this morning.
Hope this helps!
what are the steps that u take? let us know if u are missing any
Try to reset pda keep getting tri-colour, attach usb and usb shows at base of screen. When i try to install rom The problem in my second post occurs. I cannot hard reset device to anything other than the tri-colour
Thanks for your help, I tried one of the roms indicated and it worked! I have spent so much time reading various wikis and downloading files. I'm not entirely sure why it worked this time but I'm not about to ask questions! Thanks again!
OK, now you've got your phone working again, make sure that you get HardSPL installed before you try anymore flashing.
ok i was installing KAIS_Radinly_0.26.07.06_CustomRUU and it froze at 96% and now my phone is bricked!! every time i restart the phone its stuck at the RED GREEN BLUE and WHITE screen.. i tried using mtty but then im not trying to mess my phone up any more. i dont understand how to fix it.. if i download a new ROM and put it on my SD card then how do i read it with my phone? sorry guys, im a noob at this as you can tell..
nm guys. i just ran the new rom and it worked! haha sorry for posting too quick!
okay i have one problem after fixing it. i downloaded the TEST rom for the ATT tilt and now every time i reboot my phone it says 'TEST ONLY. NOT FOR SALE.' how do i get rid of this? when i installed a new rom it still says this and i even tried hard resetting my phone but it did not reset anything to factory settings. it just reloaded the rom that i last had!
xmooglex said:
okay i have one problem after fixing it. i downloaded the TEST rom for the ATT tilt and now every time i reboot my phone it says 'TEST ONLY. NOT FOR SALE.' how do i get rid of this? when i installed a new rom it still says this and i even tried hard resetting my phone but it did not reset anything to factory settings. it just reloaded the rom that i last had!
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserFAQ
your answer is in there
My fuze is freezing after a soft reset, and the only solution I have found is to hard reset.
I recently flashed hard-spl and my first cooked ROM. A few days later this happened. It freezes just after the animation sequence. I hard reset the phone, set it all up again, couple days later - frozen again. Tried a different ROM, loaded fine, set it all up, couple days later - frozen. Tried a 3rd ROM, same thing.
I was running the stock at&t fuze ROM up until this with no issues. I have tried 2 different versions of the Energy ROM 2.0 and once with Shep's 6.5 ROM.
I'm getting pretty sick of setting this thing up. Any ideas, maybe a bad hard-spl flash?
I had the same problem before, i fixed it with flashing back stock rom, reflash hard-spl and trying a diffrent build of my favorite rom, and to be honest i have no idea what fixed it.
Ok thanks for the reply. I am going to try a reflash of the hard spl, and a new ROM. Something makes me think the hard spl is the problem, but a new ROM can't hurt at this point. I will post my results...... in a few days. Thanks again!
Having almost the same problem. Where exactly was it stopping?
I get the first splash-screen, afterward in the lower right corner the 3 red version numbers appear and nothing happens, i dont get to the second (animated) splashscreen, nor to the windows mobile one.
More info:
Stock Rom
--> flashed HardSPL
--> flashed PdaViet V11
--> months later V15
--> weeks later WM 6.5 Testrom, disappointed --> flashed ProvenRom 3.3
--> trouble began approx. 3 days later
--> reflashed ProvenRom 3.3
--> trouble started again, then i did a hard reset for the first time
i will try reflashing stock rom, then hardspl, than custom rom and report in a couple of days
same thing happened to my htc touch pro. i havent fixed it yet
Happened again. I had reflashed the hard-spl and then a new version of the energyROM. It froze up later that night. Iam getting the first splash, with the red numbers, romversion etc., then the animation plays, the it freezes at the end of it. I guess I will try to flash back to stock ROM and see what happens. Until someone has a fix, I guess it'll be trial and error. I'll keep you posted.
And again, twice.
I thought everything was fine, workin good for a couple of days, then it froze again. Any thoughts or further suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Seems like it happens while I am setting things up, phone starts to get laggy after a soft reset, after adding a cab that requires a soft reset. Then it freezes on the next reset.
Software Version
I think we should narrow this down by comparing the software versions.
I'll start:
Radio: 1.14.25.05
Rom: Proven 3.2, 5.07.831.17 build 5.2.21042.1.6.1
HardSPL by Olinex
now you go!
addition:
i also remember, this happened after a cab-install. Do you remember WHAT you actually tried to install? I think for me it was HomeScreenPlusPlus UI. Afterwards it was always Opera that stopped responding and i had to soft-reset --> total failure
I had the exact same problem...you can see it in the DaG 6.5 Kitchen thread. I tried flashing to a known custom Rom that I know worked and it still had the same issue. I fixed it with the advice of someone there, the same advice that's here. Flash a stock rom, hard reset....then flash a custom rom. I don't know why that fixed it but it did.
Hmmm, maybe this will work. I had tried that and it did seem to work. However, after a few days I got sick of the 6.5 and flashed back to the energyROM. So I will give this fix another shot.
In regards to the previous post here's what I am running:
radio: 1.12.25.19
Rom: EnergyROM 2.0 build 41609
Hard SPL - SPL-1.90.by Olinex
Its almost becoming funny now. I did a soft reset so I could see the radio version and guess what - it froze again.
It seems like if I don't set everything up, it will last a few days, but sooner or later I get fed up with not having progs installed etc. and after I set it up - poof!
So here is a list of cabs and general things i do to setup the phone.
Hard reset - reset at screen setup - ROM intitial setup - device reboots itself-
-PPCPIMBackup (installed on ROM, just restore contacts)
-ChangeScreen or Gyrator / have tried both individually, not at the same time
-DredSensor
-KforTouchPro
-HTCWeathermaster Rhodium
-Gscroll 2.0 (beta)
maybe something else I haven't installed every time
of course, set owner name, setup e-mail, the rhodium world clock bug setup, general tf3d setup (contacts, weather, tabs etc.)
Add shortcuts from my sd card for previously installed progs.
I'm not sure that any of these are the issue. I have done this at least ten times. Each time I have noticed which was the last cab installed then freeze, I try not to install that cab, then it will still freeze, eventually.
I am going to reflash the stock ROM and stock SPL, then hard SPL and a ROM flash. I'll be sure to post my results.
i tried latest mystic 6.5 rom lite beta 1.1 and it froze within a day at the second splash screen and after about 1-2 min the screen turned white. I have tried the battery removing trick, but same results. I'm not sure what apps i have installed after hard reset...
i tried latest romeos rom 6.1 randium edition: it got frozen after some time...
same with both NRGZ roms: 1 and 2 version (standard raphael manila and rhodium manila).
Now i'm using romeos wm6.5 rom 2.101... will post if it freezes...
i havent tried this: "reflash the stock ROM and stock SPL, then hard SPL and a ROM flash" yet...
at10ti0n said:
Now i'm using romeos wm6.5 rom 2.101... will post if it freezes...
i havent tried this: "reflash the stock ROM and stock SPL, then hard SPL and a ROM flash" yet...
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I had no luck with this solution, and it is not exactly what was described.
Actually the solution posted is to just flash stock rom, hard reset, then flash custom rom.
I tried the above solution and it still froze, now I am going to try the correct solution posted and see what happens.
Frozen again... I am going to flash back to stock rom, stock spl, see if it still freezes.
This works (for me)
Running fine for a week:
- Flashed stock ROM (O2 German). This replaces the radio and the OS
- Went back to stock SPL. THIS IS TRICKY, SO READ(!):
+ Olinex HardSPL will NOT let you flash back to your StockSPL, because it is write-protected. This kept me up quite some time.
+ Flash your Stock ROM
+ Then, flash the hacked 195 SPL mentioned HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502720
+ then, flash your Stock SPL. Read the Threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
+ Make sure, your SPL is neither Olinex, nor the hacked 195 in the third picture
+ I flashed the Stock ROM again just to be sure the stock SPL runs and allows your stock ROM to run.
- Flashed HardSPL
- Flashed Energy ROM 2.0 WITHOUT Manila, flashed latest Radio, installed cabbed Rilphone.dll
Installed Resco, Resco Today, MortPlayer - this is the SAME setup that got me caught the last time and now runs fine for a week.
This works for me. I presume some ppl get the stock SPL flashing wrong.
As i can read from other roms, it happens ONLY to Roms with the new rhodium manila,
so maybe, if you're tired of reflashing and hard reset, try one without the new manila interface.
Another suggestion: I have a different Opera now. Many describe they tried to start Opera, THEN it hangs and the phone gets stuck on bootscreen. I have 9.5 Build 15613 now and this one runs fine.
I encourage you to try energy ROM 2.0 without Manila. There seems to be a battery issue and someone uploaded a version with better battery life, you may try this, but i don't find the post anymore and this may have rhodium manila included. Energy ROM 3.0 is out now netherless, maybe someone can follow my instructions and try this with 3.0.
Hope i could help, this was bugging me SO LONG
Wow, thanks!
I have been running the stock at&t rom since my last post with no freezing. I will try this step for step, and I will try energyrom 3.0 just to let you know.
Wish me luck!
Well, I was able to get the stock SPL back, just as you described. Thanks again for the info.
However, I flashed EnergyROM3.0 and it froze after a few hours. Of course that rom has the rhodium manila cooked in, so I am going to try again with another rom. I will report back later.
from my last post i have been using romeos wm6.5 v2.101 with no freezing.. it has NO manila cooked in.
I think, maybe it has something to do with manila :-?
Same problems here as described. Using:
1.14.25.05 Radio
EnergyROM 3.0 WM6.5 50409a version
Started after flashing the WM6.5, reproduced easily after 1-2 hr of ROM on phone, it freezes (either by installing something, or Manila general use) then stays on information screen of versions.
Going to try stock ROM + reflash SPL then flash EnergyROM 3.0 again. If that wont work, i go back to 2.0 which worked well.
OK guys I am going to report this issue has been fixed (though not solved) for me.
I flashed ROMeOS wm6.5 v2101 and am also running the version of opera previously posted. I have been running for almost a week with no freezing, and (knock on wood) do not expect it to.
I am very happy with this rom and don't plan on flashing again for a while. However, if I do I will report any success/failure. I am curious to know if the problem is just certain roms, or something specific in them. If anyone else having these issues would care to post their results with other roms, it would be appreciated for the sake of the community.
I also wanted to note that I flashed the RRE wm6.5 non-manila version just before this and it did freeze on me. So it may not be related to the rhodium manila.
Anyways thanks again to all who posted and helped with this. I can't tell you how happy I am to have stable phone again!
Good luck and happy flashing!
same thing happened to my htc touch pro. i havent fixed it yet
Hey Guys,
First off this is a re-post, me old thread was closed, I am sorry for reopening but I am still having this issue. DaveShaw and smokestack76 had posted. Dave thank you for your reply but I have been through the noob flash guide and many many many other threads and it does not resolve my issue.
I'm not new to flashing and roms, I have flashed at least 100 times and have done some cooking. Had the random stuck in bootloader that wouldn't resolve itself today (using 3.29) Loaded kaisdiagsd.nbh and flashed stock att rom. (probably should have gone right for the spl patch but I was frustrated and needed my phone) Boot loader is now v3.65
Flashed fine, reboot, same issue. Phone will now only load the stock 6.1 att rom from the micro sd. kaisdiagsd.nbh is stuck on loading as for all other roms. I can occassionally get the os to load using mtty. From there tried jumpspl and it would not connect via usb at all.
I have tried flashing spl from the sd and yes spl image was KAISIMG.nbh and KAISDIAG.nbh was on there as well. Card is formatted fat32. HardSPL would start, read the file and get stuck on loading.
When in the stock 6.1 os I get the old unrecognized usb device in both xp and vista.
Is there anything else I can do to reflash spl? All i can think of is trying the task 2a, wiping everything and trying to flash from diag but I don't even want to try that route without something solid in place.
The phone is 2 years old, upgrading when the touch pro 2 hits att in aug sept or whenever it is released, but I need my phone.
I have gone through many many many posts. I'm stuck. Any help would be appreciated.
I have the stock 6.1 att rom up right now but I would like to resolve the issue.
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finally finally got the patched version of 3.29 flashed. I will let you guys know how it goes from here. I am on a different computer at work.
Success!
I started from complete scratch and a fresh brain and was able to get everything going.
After I got the os back up i was able to start jumpspl and get it to connect via usb. Then only the force usb on 3.29 patch would work. After that repaired active sync and I was ready to go. Thanks smokestack79 for the late night help last night. I was out of it and frustrated. Seems like she's got a little more life in her after all.