The question is often, how to overclock and there is a bunch of thread on that, but what about "downclocking" ?
I was thinking of that to extend my battery life when using low CPU consumption programs. Is there a stable program that can be recommended (my processor is a Samsung SC32442 400MHz Processor) ?
Thank for your support !
I would also be interested in something like this. Also a program that could suspend different parts of the phone would be nice. I would really like a program that could shutdown the display when playing mp3s on the pda.
I try to overclock my Qtek9000 to 624 MHz using XCPUScalar 2007. If i fix the speed to 624MHz, it works well for several hours, but after that it freezes. If I click to control the speed depends on the CPU load, it does not work.. I have JW ROM 2.02.02 installed. If somebody overclocked Qtek9000 with stable wrok after that?
myname70 said:
I try to overclock my Qtek9000 to 624 MHz using XCPUScalar 2007. If i fix the speed to 624MHz, it works well for several hours, but after that it freezes. If I click to control the speed depends on the CPU load, it does not work.. I have JW ROM 2.02.02 installed. If somebody overclocked Qtek9000 with stable wrok after that?
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why do you want to overclock it? does it make a big difference?
kchris said:
why do you want to overclock it? does it make a big difference?
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Yes, it does! Even starting several benchmark programmes, the performance is much better... Of course, if I have more ROM will be better, but CPU 624 is OK.
myname70 said:
Yes, it does! Even starting several benchmark programmes, the performance is much better... Of course, if I have more ROM will be better, but CPU 624 is OK.
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I wonder if there is a real application to increased CPU speed except getting better scores in benchmarks.
No, I'm serious here. Contacts, Tasks, Outlook, SBSH programs, eWallet, VehicleManager. TomTom, at the end -- it's working OK already.
Does it make difference if we're getting 0.85 seconds instead of 1.00?
I really would like to know what should I overclock my device for (and risk overheating it).
EastExpert said:
I really would like to know what should I overclock my device for (and risk overheating it).
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I had been using X-CPU Scalar for more than a year and a quarter now. My Universal is a year and a half old. I have mine set at 520, never over-heated, never felt it had any increased in temperature of any kind, and still going strong.
But isn't 520 the normal speed of a Universal anyway?
AlanJC said:
But isn't 520 the normal speed of a Universal anyway?
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yeh it is
EastExpert said:
I wonder if there is a real application to increased CPU speed except getting better scores in benchmarks.
No, I'm serious here. Contacts, Tasks, Outlook, SBSH programs, eWallet, VehicleManager. TomTom, at the end -- it's working OK already.
Does it make difference if we're getting 0.85 seconds instead of 1.00?
I really would like to know what should I overclock my device for (and risk overheating it).
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I'm at this opinion too..
The speed and overclocking is connected to the CPU type (not to the PDA itself). I have Inetl PXA270. Initially it is rated to 520 MHz, but saw in internet there is some PDA with the same CPU (PXA270) but officially made on 624 MHz. Maybe this CPU is designed to work (stable!) on 624 MHz as well...
cktlcmd said:
I had been using X-CPU Scalar for more than a year and a quarter now. My Universal is a year and a half old. I have mine set at 520, never over-heated, never felt it had any increased in temperature of any kind, and still going strong.
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You're not doing anything at all. The default speed is 520mhz. You're just hogging RAM by running the X-CPU.
Windowsrookie said:
You're not doing anything at all. The default speed is 520mhz. You're just hogging RAM by running the X-CPU.
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AlanJC said:
But isn't 520 the normal speed of a Universal anyway?
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Not necessarilly. You have to remember, different apps run at different speed depending on the system which WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL until overclocking apps were available. The system normally slows down its speed to conserve battery. But to me, speed is more important, like in answering calls and activating my BT Headset, maybe this is the reason why I have no missed or dropped calls. Never had delays in anything. By assigning the system to run all apps on 520, it assures the app will open fast and react fast as it should be. At least this is how I understood WM system management of open apps.
I just read in Intel website that XPA 270 can be run at 520 and 624 MHz. There are a lot of PDA (HP iPOD etc) running on 624MHz.. so why we can not overclock it to 624 as well?
myname70 said:
I just read in Intel website that XPA 270 can be run at 520 and 624 MHz. There are a lot of PDA (HP iPOD etc) running on 624MHz.. so why we can not overclock it to 624 as well?
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There was a similar thread that answered your question months ago. Try searching for Pocket Hack Master or XCPUScalar.
iv been running mine fine for ages, mines on auto scale its running at 520mhz anything below 15% cpu power being used, and 624mhz above
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You're not doing anything at all. The default speed is 520mhz. You're just hogging RAM by running the X-CPU.
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Yes,what he is doing is right.The default speed is changing between 520MHz and 108MHz according to the percent of the CPU load.Keeping the speed at 520MHz can make Universal run faster.
EastExpert said:
I wonder if there is a real application to increased CPU speed except getting better scores in benchmarks.
No, I'm serious here. Contacts, Tasks, Outlook, SBSH programs, eWallet, VehicleManager. TomTom, at the end -- it's working OK already.
Does it make difference if we're getting 0.85 seconds instead of 1.00?
I really would like to know what should I overclock my device for (and risk overheating it).
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It's not just about getting better benchmarks. Have you tried running 640x480 videos or play games on your universal? It works fine right? But it works and looks better if you overclock it.
There's really no risk. It wont allow you to overclock beyond 624Mhz, which is still on the safe zone.
DaVince said:
It's not just about getting better benchmarks. Have you tried running 640x480 videos or play games on your universal? It works fine right? But it works and looks better if you overclock it.
There's really no risk. It wont allow you to overclock beyond 624Mhz, which is still on the safe zone.
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But if I overclock to 624 MHz, it will run ONLY at this frequency! No reducing of the speed depends on the CPU load... In this case, what about the battery life?
myname70 said:
But if I overclock to 624 MHz, it will run ONLY at this frequency! No reducing of the speed depends on the CPU load... In this case, what about the battery life?
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That is something you have to sacifice with speed. I don't care about battery life since I am using an extended battery anyway.
myname70 said:
But if I overclock to 624 MHz, it will run ONLY at this frequency! No reducing of the speed depends on the CPU load... In this case, what about the battery life?
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uhh... no it won't.
cpu speed is TAKEN, not GIVEN.
if you set cpu speed to a 624mhz and a certin opp pnly needs half, it will use ONLY half.
thats the job of the "system idle process", to "save" the rest of the cpu speed to other programs.
shlomki said:
uhh... no it won't.
cpu speed is TAKEN, not GIVEN.
if you set cpu speed to a 624mhz and a certin opp pnly needs half, it will use ONLY half.
thats the job of the "system idle process", to "save" the rest of the cpu speed to other programs.
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You are right if I do not use any Overclocking software. But if I use Xscale or Hack master, they speed up the CPU to 624 and disable the "system idle process" and keep the CPU running on maximum speed , does nopt mater that I do not use any programmes or services...
If there any way to overclock the CPU in "bootable mode"? Similar to the PC BIOS?
hi guys.
i'll want know a good program for overclock my trinity.
it's possiblehave 500mhz rock solid?
thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324781&highlight=overclock
Some people report Pocket Hack Master worked for them.
Able to actually change the CPU speed, and noticed some obvious changes in their device behaviour.
It's worth a try
well i was experiencing very slow speeds and it seemed too sluggish for a 400mhz cpu. well i install xcpuscalar(3.03) and it was showing my cpu was set at 200mhz. this is a fresh flash of htc official wm5 rom so i found that odd. well i set it to 500mhz and ive been running it stable and smooth no problems. much faster, very obvious, will have to test more to see effect on battery but it does have settings to scale the cpu according to load. ymmv
cecrops said:
well i was experiencing very slow speeds and it seemed too sluggish for a 400mhz cpu. well i install xcpuscalar(3.03) and it was showing my cpu was set at 200mhz. this is a fresh flash of htc official wm5 rom so i found that odd. well i set it to 500mhz and ive been running it stable and smooth no problems. much faster, very obvious, will have to test more to see effect on battery but it does have settings to scale the cpu according to load. ymmv
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That might be a new release of xcpuscalar that does support the samsung cpu effectively.
Some people has tested that soft one year ago, but it appeared to be, even once set to 500 mhz only placebo effect. When check with other softs, the cpu speed remained the same.
Nevertheless, it's very odd that on a fresh bought device, you have only a 200mhz speed, half the normal one...
The Trinity run very slow sometimes, but this is a matter of optimisation of the ROM you are using, not necessarilly a problem with the cpu speed itself.
Another good and simple way to check your cpu speed is TCPMP. In any case, it's always better to double-check with another soft, rather than believe everything your overclocking soft says.
riri22 said:
That might be a new release of xcpuscalar that does support the samsung cpu effectively.
Some people has tested that soft one year ago, but it appeared to be, even once set to 500 mhz only placebo effect. When check with other softs, the cpu speed remained the same.
Nevertheless, it's very odd that on a fresh bought device, you have only a 200mhz speed, half the normal one...
The Trinity run very slow sometimes, but this is a matter of optimisation of the ROM you are using, not necessarilly a problem with the cpu speed itself.
Another good and simple way to check your cpu speed is TCPMP. In any case, it's always better to double-check with another soft, rather than believe everything your overclocking soft says.
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after more usage i uninstalled xcpu. when you first run the program it is set to default 200mhz which is why i thought thats what i was really at. TCPMP says im at 390-400 no matter what. better not to have too many programs running and loading at boot. also i tried pocket hack master but that didnt work either. ill stick to sktools and trinityhack, those registry tweaks are what i think i really needed.
Hello Xda.
I made a quick search here and didnt come up with any answers so heres my question.
Do the processors in the myTouch 3G/G1 run dynamically? Meaning they are not clocked at their rated 528mhz at all times?
Ive seen an overclock utility for the G1 and wonder if this is needed for the myTouch also to run at its rated speed?
I appologize if this has been adressed here but i cannot find a definite answer.
same speed all the time
Thx.
Does that apply for both models or just the myTouch 3G?
think it apply for any arm based device I've ever heard of
reason
not sure maybe changing the Hz require too much power for it to pay off
maybe it cause instablity and inresponsive devices
maybe the ability to adjust hz on the fly require extre hardware and software
and it would be too expensive....
Well..there is an app(i believe mostly used by rooted G1 owners)that overclocks
the cpu from an apparent 300'ish mhz to the full rated 528mhz.
The impression i get is that the phone underclocks the processor while using basic functions to save on battery life?..
not the phone the phone manufactors set the default Hz of their device
one reason could be the save batt
another could be they don't have the propper air flow and cooling on the chip
and running it on the Hz the cpu was made for would damage the device
I have a nokia n800. it uses an arm processor running at 400mhz, but not all the time. Only when is required. the o. s. manages this. I think it is related to the o. s. only.
FYI I had minor overheating issues (phone just felt hot to the touch but everything was working fine) with my G1. One day I peeled the piece of fabric off that covers the inside of the speaker hole on the back of the phone, now it stays cool always. Maybe with this fabric removed the phone will run at full speed but stay cool.
Any hint what the software to make this run full speed is called? Is it in the market if you have JF 1.51 firmware? (I do.) I can try it and report back if someone can tell me what it's called.
Rudegar said:
not the phone the phone manufactors set the default Hz of their device
one reason could be the save batt
another could be they don't have the propper air flow and cooling on the chip
and running it on the Hz the cpu was made for would damage the device
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I believe the G1 was underclocked due to its horrible battery life But I believe the MT3G runs at the 528 all the time..
Just a little question, i have a x10 mini pro, and its processor runs at 600 Mhz.
Now with the Mini CM7 i can overclock it to 864 Mhz. So i've been testing it with 724 Mhz and my question is: if i set the maximum processor speed at 724 Mhz, and leave it like that permanently, would this affect my cellphone in some way?
What i'm trying to say is, if you set a maximum speed, it doesn't means that the processor is gonna be running at that speed all the time, just when is needed, for example in games so it won't increase noticeably the battery consumption if the phone is locked 85% of the time. Or it is actually draining more battery even if don't use it?
PS. (English is not my native language, so i'm sorry if the text is hard to undestand, tried my best to explain it well).
You do know the hazards of overclocking in general right? Unless you have the proper cooling, even on a cellphone you will eventually burn out the processor. That is the real issue you need to worry about, just because you can overclock does not mean that you should overclock.
I wouldn't overclock it to the max. That's just bad juju. Unless you plan on hooking up a perpetual ice pack to the phone as well. You'd do well to be a bit moderate.
And to answer your question, yes you will burn battery quicker.
Test at different speeds. If it runs stable, with no force closes, lock-ups, reboots, excess heat, etc., then you're good. You are correct, you are only setting the maximum. What your phone idles or runs at on will depend on what governor you are using, I recommend Smartass for good battery and performance balance, although I have been liking Smartass v2 lately. Obviously overclocking will affect battery life, but you will find that your choice of governor will make a huge difference too.
Well, thanks for the help, glad to see that there are people who are willing to help with small questions like this one. Keep the good job!