Wow, I guess I did not realize that. When I looked at the dummy version of the ATT Fuze at an ATT store yesterday, I noticed a PTT button below the volume controls on the left side. So ATT had HTC add that to the original TouchPro. Hopefully, we will be able to hack that to use for other applications.
GermanGuy said:
Wow, I guess I did not realize that. When I looked at the dummy version of the ATT Fuze at an ATT store yesterday, I noticed a PTT button below the volume controls on the left side. So ATT had HTC add that to the original TouchPro. Hopefully, we will be able to hack that to use for other applications.
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AT&T's Official 6.1 ROM for the Tilt had native support for remapping the PTT button, so it would not surprise me if they allow it on the Fuze also.
I'm hoping to remap it to Voice Command, because you could then say "Start Camera", "Start Opera", etc...
NotATreoFan said:
AT&T's Official 6.1 ROM for the Tilt had native support for remapping the PTT button, so it would not surprise me if they allow it on the Fuze also.
I'm hoping to remap it to Voice Command, because you could then say "Start Camera", "Start Opera", etc...
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nice to see you here natf so hopefully u'll be cooking for fuze.
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...hopefully u'll be cooking for fuze.
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From the day it comes out...
My Fuze did not have integrated remapping for the PTT button, however I did manage to remap it eventually with some registry editing. I posted a "how to" on here, and for some reason I think my post was deleted, ask moderation about that one. I had it set to voice command, as that's where I found it most useful.
great to hear - not having a dedicated camera button sucks but that could suffice nicely!
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great to hear - not having a dedicated camera button sucks but that could suffice nicely!
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Nonono, trust me, the touch and press capture on the Fuze works like a dream. The center button is not only a button, it's touch sensitive. When you barely rest your thumb on it, using its touch sensitivity, it auto-focuses... Then you press it in and it captures. One of the most impressive things about the phone IMO, I thought it worked better than any other phone camera trigger I've used.
Black93300ZX said:
Nonono, trust me, the touch and press capture on the Fuze works like a dream. The center button is not only a button, it's touch sensitive. When you barely rest your thumb on it, using its touch sensitivity, it auto-focuses... Then you press it in and it captures. One of the most impressive things about the phone IMO, I thought it worked better than any other phone camera trigger I've used.
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Really? Even better than the Tilt's? That has a button just like normal digital cameras.
I like having a button I can press whenever to bring up the camera. I am really going to miss all my buttons!
I have internet, messaging, camera, and PTT remapped to be gmail (in java) and if press and hold it opens the comm manager.
From those 4 buttons we now only have 1
Not to mention there no longer is start/OK buttons. No softkey buttons I am fine with as the screen is flush.
Black93300ZX said:
Nonono, trust me, the touch and press capture on the Fuze works like a dream. The center button is not only a button, it's touch sensitive. When you barely rest your thumb on it, using its touch sensitivity, it auto-focuses... Then you press it in and it captures. One of the most impressive things about the phone IMO, I thought it worked better than any other phone camera trigger I've used.
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good to hear - i meant more towards launching the camera instead of using it as a shutter button btw. The voice command option sounds like a great(the?) way to go though.
i want to use it for taskfacade. pretty much copies the xperia panels and nicely
any new word on wether its re mappable out of the box?
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From the day it comes out...
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Hi Your the MAN, so happy to here everyone so excited about the Fuze and I do hope and I've been told by my local ATT store that it will be Tuesday. He is going to call me Monday when the shipment comes in to assure me he'll have mine for Tuesday. I'll Post when I hear from him on Monday and verify is it's so.
With excitement and soon to be Fuze Nead/Geek
Beachboyde
Black93300ZX said:
Nonono, trust me, the touch and press capture on the Fuze works like a dream. The center button is not only a button, it's touch sensitive. When you barely rest your thumb on it, using its touch sensitivity, it auto-focuses... Then you press it in and it captures. One of the most impressive things about the phone IMO, I thought it worked better than any other phone camera trigger I've used.
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How sensitive is the auto-focus? I don't want to rest my thumb on the action button to focus and mistakenly take a snapshot. I hope there's a large enough threshold between pressures so that this isn't an issue.
Dramacydle said:
How sensitive is the auto-focus? I don't want to rest my thumb on the action button to focus and mistakenly take a snapshot. I hope there's a large enough threshold between pressures so that this isn't an issue.
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The buttons on the touch pro are capacitive AND have a physical button. When you touch but don't click, it will focus. When you click, it will take the picture.
Remapping PTT button to start menu
I am new here so I would like to say that it is great to see others with the same interest in the Fuze as well. I just came from a Tilt which I was tremendously happy with.
I already edited the registry so the stupid ptt button does not function. However, I am trying to use it to pull down the start menu and no one is interested so I have no idea what file to rename.
By the way I have gotten the internet sharing to work but I had to get my cousin involved b/c the total commander registry editor did not do it. we had to download PHM RegEdit to get the job done. It was quite easy once that was figured out.
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I have been using dutty's roms for a while and love them.. I have not tried any other roms.
Is there a program or a way to easily adjust the volume.. perhaps
using the OK button on the side to bring up the volume and then the scroll wheel up or down...
Maybe this exist's? or maybe its just a reg tweak of remaping the OK button to bring up the volume slider.
If this is possible your input would be appreciated without grilling me... for asking a silly question.
i usually hit the speaker icon with my stylus... and then use the scroll wheel.. on my HTC wizard it worked like that. I dont use the ok button. so this would be great..
I would like also like to know this.
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I would like also like to know this.
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Ditto. I'm left-handed and hardly ever use the jog wheel for selecting because it is uncomfortable. I would be satisfied with reassigning it completely to volume control.
glad i am not the only one..
I was wondering if i was the only one who wanted this feature.. but i guess I am not... It seems there must be a way to remap the ok button to the volume slider.
One the volume slider pops up, the scroll wheel works already. Its hard when your driving top get out the stylus or even use your thumb to hit the little speaker icon which is tiny..
I dont use the ok button or the scroll wheel very much so this would be great.
lancevs said:
I have been using dutty's roms for a while and love them.. I have not tried any other roms.
Is there a program or a way to easily adjust the volume.. perhaps
using the OK button on the side to bring up the volume and then the scroll wheel up or down...
Maybe this exist's? or maybe its just a reg tweak of remaping the OK button to bring up the volume slider.
If this is possible your input would be appreciated without grilling me... for asking a silly question.
i usually hit the speaker icon with my stylus... and then use the scroll wheel.. on my HTC wizard it worked like that. I dont use the ok button. so this would be great..
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I Dutty's ROM's if you disable the large start menu then the jog wheel will once again control your volume.....as far as remapping it to a different button I do not know the answer.
I checked v1.1 info on this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1881884&postcount=1
# Unable to change incall volume (with scroll wheel) due to HTC Large Title Bar, which can be uninstalled now
So maybe it's because of HTC Large Title bar?
We want to be able to press a button to make the volume/phone box pop up, just as if you had pressed the speaker icon in the title bar. Just wanted to clarify that. The jog wheel works for volume you control when you select an app FIRST that has volume options to it, but the point is you have to select that first (i.e. volume sliders on title bar).
Right now if you are on your today screen and use the jog wheel,your scroll through today options (whatever plugisn you have enabled), not volume control
what is being asked here is if you can map one of the buttons to display the volume/phone pop up box. THen we'd be able to control via jog wheel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1399653&postcount=1
Ohhh very nice, good find. Thanks
Ahh to bad, breaks on kaiser.
you can see the volume controls pop up briefly and incomplete but then they pop right down.
briggs81 said:
Ahh to bad, breaks on kaiser.
you can see the volume controls pop up briefly and incomplete but then they pop right down.
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dang.. I just tried it and it works on my trinity. Apparently it was extracted from wisbar advanced, so perhaps you can find a working version of that and extract the appropriate file.
It is sort of working actually. Just sometimes it doesnt. better then nothing though
Still hoping for solution!
thanks for the input. I hope this thread does not die. It is one of my major gripes. The Wizard did it perfectly but the Kaiser does not.
Hopefully someone can change this. even if the ok button does not work, than maybe we can get the scroll wheel button to do it. I did not realize that the scroll wheel was a button also..
cool i am going to try as well
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It is sort of working actually. Just sometimes it doesnt. better then nothing though
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I will let you know how it works for me..
what do i do..
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It is sort of working actually. Just sometimes it doesnt. better then nothing though
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I copied the exe to my phone, but how do i map it to the ok button..
It runs if i use file manager to locate the file. If you could tell me what you did would be great.
If you create a short cut for the .exe file and place it in the "\windows\start menu\programs" folder you will see it then when you go to map a button.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1399653&postcount=1
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Hey guys I assigned this app to the ptt button on my Tilt and it works perfectly!
One push and I can use the jog wheel to adjust volume, another push and it's gone.
Great find thanks!!!
Ok I just upgraded my radio from 1.27.12.11 to the recommended radio for my rom, 1.58.26.20 and am now seeing the problem being discussed here.
The balloon will pop up, but only momentarily, then closes. If you hit it enough times though it'll actually stay open.
Maybe this is an issue with radio compatibility? It seemed to work perfectly with the 1.27.12.11 radio.
[edit] Soft reset and it seems to be working again.
PTT button
elypsar said:
Hey guys I assigned this app to the ptt button on my Tilt and it works perfectly!
One push and I can use the jog wheel to adjust volume, another push and it's gone.
Great find thanks!!!
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I got the program working but could not assign it to the OK button under the jog wheel. I was able to assign it to OK on the front panel.. I use the PTT button for Voice Commander... It still would be nice to assign it to the ok button seeing that, that button is useless otherwise.
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I got the program working but could not assign it to the OK button under the jog wheel. I was able to assign it to OK on the front panel.. I use the PTT button for Voice Commander... It still would be nice to assign it to the ok button seeing that, that button is useless otherwise.
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This thread is relevant to your interests:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336438
Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:
1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.
2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.
I did not expierence the first problem with the charging issue.
To close and app you can use the (arrow pointing left) key but sometimes i have to push it like 3 or 4 times before it respond.
Same with the touchscreen but i fixed that by increasing the touchpad sensitivity with a regedit.
My device has reset a few times while I been reading email or texts.
John
Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.
Kraize92 said:
Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.
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Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.
The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.
no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit
pazookie said:
no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit
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Sorry my bad. WM phones used to be called touch sensitve but in reality they're pressure sensitive. The only touch sensitive phones out currently are the iPhones and the Omni I would say.
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Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.
The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.
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If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do
Issues:
HTC task man doesnt work properly.
Poor reception
Too many startup apps/services put on by htc to provide touch interface (which i hate)
why on eart you use operaloder on phones stratup just to get 2-3 more seconds fast load time for opera.
i think htc just over done this touch crap.
could anoyone access setupfiles on rom so i can use plain wm6.1
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If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do
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Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.
Syphon Filter said:
Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.
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No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.
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Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:
1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.
2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.
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1 - Not had that problem - hopefully that'll go after your next hard reset or ROM update - these damn things always have, and always will behave differently for different people, it seems!
2 - My Back button missed my press once or twice, but I think it's more of a hardware issue than a software issue though (or possibly user error!). I'll tell you now though, hitting the "Right" button on my Diamond was next to impossible. It was extremely stiff, and would eventually register as a press on the "Hang Up" button. Drove me absolutely mental! But I think I was the only Diamond user who had that problem, and my Raphael is fine.
having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.
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having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.
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Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.
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No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.
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I'm not going to get into an argument over this but the 9 buttons (Home, Back, Call, End, Up, Down, Left, Right and the centre of the D-Pad) on the face of the Diamond and the Touch Pro are buttons which have a tactile feedback, a press will not register until you "feel" the button pressed. The only thing in that area that is a "touch sensitive" thing is the zoom wheel.
Just because the area looks flush does not mean they are not buttons. There's a single piece of material that covers that area but I can assure you there are individual switches under there that provide a tactile feedback. You HAVE to feel that feedback for the button to do anything, simply touching it will have no effect unless you are using the zoom wheel functionality.
If you believe anything else you are wrong.
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Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.
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1. What do you mean "my pressure threshold is very high"? Are you talking about the registry settings?
2. I thought you didnt have a Touch Pro or Diamond?
I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.
Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond
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I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.
Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond
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Yes. Ok.
Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?
If have insiders at HTC why did you ask for donations so you could get a Touch Pro in the other thread?
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Yes. Ok.
Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?
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EDIT: Okay. Maybe I'm mistaken. It's only the d-pad that's pressure sensitive. The buttons are tactile even though they feel as if they are pressure sensitive because I don't push into it like I did with the front face buttons on my kaiser.
ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.
The "wheel" is the only touch sensitive bit. The 5 navigation functions of the d-pad (up down left right select) are all tactile buttons that work off little switches.
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ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.
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Actually. I should show you the light I'm right.
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Click number 3 and read this caption: "Swipe your finger across the screen to scroll through contracts, zoom, and pan web pages, browse your music library, and more, or press the touch-sensitive buttons to navigate and control your phone."
So concluding to that original fact that I was indeed right
Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280
I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.
There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.
Try AE Button Plus.
B.
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?
I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...
I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.
Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...
Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.
helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions
You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!
Apologies if this has been thoroughly covered, I went back 4-5 pages in each forum but didn't see anything.
From what I can gather from reviews and youtube videos the D-pad on the Touch pro works like a standard D-pad, and when in opera can be used to zoom in by circling it with a finger like a click wheel on an Ipod. Is it possible to modify it to work as a scroll wheel instead of a "zoom wheel". I know this isn't an option out of the box, but is it something that's possible, or being worked on?
I'm considering from the tilt, and while I've convinced myself that I don't need the hard left and right buttons, or the email & browser buttons, I'm not sure I'll be able to get used to working without any kind of jog dial/scroll wheel.
I think it's been asked and the answer is not yet.
The D-pad is one of the things I really don't like about the phone though, the buttons are all on the same plane, not separated in any way, and that makes it very difficult to differentiate the d-pad from the home/back/send/end buttons. I didn't find it was a problem until playing games, when I kept minimizing the window by hitting the Back button.
oh... the touch pro has a d-pad??? omg ive had the phone for almost a month and i only just discovered it. i thought it was just a scroll thing. its really hard to press though..
Black93300ZX said:
I think it's been asked and the answer is not yet.
The D-pad is one of the things I really don't like about the phone though, the buttons are all on the same plane, not separated in any way, and that makes it very difficult to differentiate the d-pad from the home/back/send/end buttons. I didn't find it was a problem until playing games, when I kept minimizing the window by hitting the Back button.
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Well I don't really play a whole lot of games on my phone, but I do read a lot of really long email threads, and more importantly, when I'm bored I read sites like overheardinnewyork.com which is basically a lot of text to scroll through.
I'm getting the feeling that I'm going to have to find a way to "play" with a TP and see if I love it or not. I went 8125, x01ht, tilt, and now I'm looking to upgrade. but if this phone isn't going to rock me, I'll hold out (for what I don't know).
As much as I like flashing new roms to my tilt, it seems all anyone does is try to rip the best features from other phones...so at some point I might as well just get the other phone.
Diamond Tweak 0.5.3 allows you to enable d-pad scrolling for some applications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
(you need to soft-reset after you have changed options)
dougalls said:
Diamond Tweak 0.5.3 allows you to enable d-pad scrolling for some applications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
(you need to soft-reset after you have changed options)
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Hmmm, looks promising. Have you tried it? I just can't imagine I'd ever use the zoom feature, although up to now I've used opera mini, so perhaps after switching to opera mobile I'd change my mind. But I'm still pretty sure I'd prefer to double tap the screen to zoom, and have another means of scrolling.
I have tried it and it works well for contacts (useful), programs etc but does not work with my Yahoo inbox (possibly due to the ROM I am using - ROmeOS v1.22) and it does not replace the zoom in opera. You can set up custom applications in DiamondTweak so it may be possible to overcome any differences between ROM's by setting up a custom application. I do use the zoom in opera so wouldn't want to replace it.
You can still double tap to zoom in/out on opera, as well as the wheel - the wheel lets you zoom in/out in small increments, double tapping toggles between full page and zoomed in.
DesCo said:
Hmmm, looks promising. Have you tried it? I just can't imagine I'd ever use the zoom feature, although up to now I've used opera mini, so perhaps after switching to opera mobile I'd change my mind. But I'm still pretty sure I'd prefer to double tap the screen to zoom, and have another means of scrolling.
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Think about this, with Opera Mobile you'll only have 2 levels of zoom ("in" or "out") unless you use the wheel to zoom. I liked being able to use it to fine tune and get things to look just right, but that's me. Try it out and see what you think.
With newer versions of Opera Mobile, there is now an on-screen zoom slider that adds a "tap and slide" button for incremental zooming. Now I find myself wanting an alternative to scrolling, since my finger otherwise covers up part of the screen and might accidentally click a link. Unfortunately the arrows and dpad don't scroll the page but instead jump from link to link.
This has been one detail (although a minor detail) that has made be begin to consider replacing my TP with the X1, since the X1's optical sensor dpad apparently provides scrolling functionality.
DesCo said:
Hmmm, looks promising. Have you tried it? I just can't imagine I'd ever use the zoom feature, although up to now I've used opera mini, so perhaps after switching to opera mobile I'd change my mind. But I'm still pretty sure I'd prefer to double tap the screen to zoom, and have another means of scrolling.
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use advance config 3.3 ........search for the link
go to options, click smart touch and it allows you to add any application, where in touch wheel (above D Pad) can be used for scrolling......i use it for contacts, file manager, program, call history, phone window, mails, messages and its really usefull and very cool........i dont use it for opera and internet explorer and use it for zooming as put in default
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Kingjack
Thanks for the info. As I said, I haven't picked up the TP yet, I'm holding out for the Fuze (or a reasonably priced GSM model).
To change gears a bit, I'm curious, what kind of difference do people see in using cooked Roms on this device. I only ask because as a Kaiser user I'm used to using Roms because they incorporate features from the latest equipment. But as this is among the newest models out, and a "flagship" phone so to speak...is there much of an advantage over say a stock ATT rom minus the bloat? I enjoy high level of customization, and being able to pick my features, but as this is a relatively new device, I don't want to go through the trouble of unlocking and flashing if there isn't going to be a real gain in performance/features, or if it's going to impact performance (like trying to run Manilla 2d on a Kaiser, and pretending that a 5 second screen rotate time is ok)
PS: just for the record, despite my incredibly low post count, I've been lurking on the board for ~2 years...I'm not some (I hate this word) newb asking "what rom is best" or "can someone explain to me how to XXX reading the Wiki is too much work"...just wanted to throw that out there.
Volume buttons for scroll
Review on wmexperts of Sprint Touch Pro has the information below in the comments area. Looks like the reviewer followed up with the statement that he used AE Buttons to remap the volume buttons on the side, where the scroll wheel is on 8525/Tilt to scroll up and down with each click. I don't have Fuze, but it seems like this would work on it as well, I don't think it's a free softare though.
http://www.wmexperts.com/reviews/smartphones/review_24_hours_with_the_sprin.html
Buttons: I have successfully used AE Buttons to successfully remap the volume up and down buttons. I have the volume down button set at one click to scroll down and a log click for OK/Enter. The volume up button is set at one to scroll up and the log click Alt/Tab Wisbar's switch utility. I have also remapped the Back button to OK/Enter. The Home button now brings down the Start Menu on a single click and Email when I hold it down. This has made life a lot easier and has in virtually increased my available hardware buttons to a more comfortable level of usable buttons.
cparkhorn said:
Review on wmexperts of Sprint Touch Pro has the information below in the comments area. Looks like the reviewer followed up with the statement that he used AE Buttons to remap the volume buttons on the side, where the scroll wheel is on 8525/Tilt to scroll up and down with each click. I don't have Fuze, but it seems like this would work on it as well, I don't think it's a free softare though.
http://www.wmexperts.com/reviews/smartphones/review_24_hours_with_the_sprin.html
Buttons: I have successfully used AE Buttons to successfully remap the volume up and down buttons. I have the volume down button set at one click to scroll down and a log click for OK/Enter. The volume up button is set at one to scroll up and the log click Alt/Tab Wisbar's switch utility. I have also remapped the Back button to OK/Enter. The Home button now brings down the Start Menu on a single click and Email when I hold it down. This has made life a lot easier and has in virtually increased my available hardware buttons to a more comfortable level of usable buttons.
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How have you managed to get AEButton working on your home button?
I found that the home and back buttons seem to be "hard coded" to do their tasks, and AEbutton only assigns an *additional* task to each button. In other words, when I press Home for start menu, it first goes home, and then opens start. If I map the back button to Camera, it first goes back an application screen, then launches camera. Very annoying. The only buttons I found AEButton works with is the vol up and down. Is there a trick I'm missing?
On my tilt i used to have a nice exe on startup that would replace my windows key with the control key.
Now im looking for somthing like that to possibly replace the OK key all the way on the bottom left corner.
Any Ideas of any App or way i could do this??
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Here is the link to the exe i used on my tilt:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121594&d=1223982517
I would find this interesting also. I've tried using MagicKB Lite for this but haven't been able to so far, although (so long as I also used the free Hook.mgr) I was able to make other symbols easily accessible on the Keyboard.
Personally, I'd rather use the CAPS key for this. Since we can press shift twice for caps lock having a CAPS key seems pretty silly.
Caveman6 said:
Personally, I'd rather use the CAPS key for this. Since we can press shift twice for caps lock having a CAPS key seems pretty silly.
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Yes, that would be my choice as well.
i think the caps would make a better "TAB" key, at least on the fuze. I think i could deal with the OK button being remapped to Control (in the same spot as a normal keyboard, and then the caps key being remapped to TAB. Would love to figure this out.
Have you made any headway on remapping OK -> Ctrl and CAPS -> Tab? I've tried a utilitity that looked promising (http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.php) but haven't been able to crack the egg.
Solution!
This thread shows up pretty high in google results so I wanted to document the solution in case somebody else is looking for it.
Tarkim created an app specifically for the Raphael (Fuze, Touch Pro) which lets you re-map just about anything. It works very well for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521786
Seriously consider donating something to him to thank him for his efforts!