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FINAL STRAW with WM - why do we not have this app?

Im sick of the most useful apps being developed for the iPhone only.
Take this app for example
http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/11/16/tv-plus-sky-remote-for-iphone-updated/
This app would be SO useful to UK WM users. The ability to remote record programs on your Sky+ or Sky+HD box would be extremely useful, yet we are being left out in the cold yet again.
This is seriously the last straw, im almost ready to jump ship next gen of phones.
Does anyone know of a WM equivilant?

darthbane2k said:
Im sick of the most useful apps being developed for the iPhone only.
Take this app for example
http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/11/16/tv-plus-sky-remote-for-iphone-updated/
This app would be SO useful to UK WM users. The ability to remote record programs on your Sky+ or Sky+HD box would be extremely useful, yet we are being left out in the cold yet again.
This is seriously the last straw, im almost ready to jump ship next gen of phones.
Does anyone know of a WM equivilant?
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As you might have seen on the "application" you linked in your post: it is again not a real application but a web service packed in an executable file for iPhones - something the world really does not need since service providers such as TiVo are launching their own stuff:
http://news.ebrandz.com/miscellaneo...e-for-programming-remotely-for-tv-freaks.html

omg
you want you diamond to be a your sky remote???
ill sell you a sky remote for £10.....better than £400...the cost of a diamond

Junner2003 said:
As you might have seen on the "application" you linked in your post: it is again not a real application but a web service packed in an executable file for iPhones - something the world really does not need since service providers such as TiVo are launching their own stuff:
http://news.ebrandz.com/miscellaneo...e-for-programming-remotely-for-tv-freaks.html
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Im not talking about TiVO (which is not available in the UK), im talking specifically about Sky+.

dude you can alwys try slingplayer for slingbox users, duh

dortyboy said:
dude you can alwys try slingplayer for slingbox users, duh
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you guys dont get it, this isnt a remote control app nor should I be required to buy a slingbox (expensive). The iphone app is simple, you sign in with your sky account username and password, you pull up a complete TV guide and you set recordings from the app. The app communicates with skys servers which then in turn send a signal to your sky box from wherever you are in the world and your box will record that programme.
Now, granted you can do this from the sky.com website, but typically its one of those sites that just doesnt work in Opera or pocket IE.

Tivo Mobile
Tivo Mobile was released last month but don't know if that helps you.

no hes lives in uk. sky+ is like a uk tivo.
theres an app for iphone that lets you sign into you sky account and record a show from you phone
he want an app that lets him sign into his sky+ account with his mobile

darthbane2k said:
you guys dont get it, this isnt a remote control app nor should I be required to buy a slingbox (expensive). The iphone app is simple, you sign in with your sky account username and password, you pull up a complete TV guide and you set recordings from the app. The app communicates with skys servers which then in turn send a signal to your sky box from wherever you are in the world and your box will record that programme.
Now, granted you can do this from the sky.com website, but typically its one of those sites that just doesnt work in Opera or pocket IE.
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Well, I got you already in first place! Even the iPhone Application is nothing but a modified webbrowser control, so, basically, you're loading the Sky+ website into your iPhone - and this is why I always wonder then people talk about 'aplication on the iPhone', mostly these are nothing but web services!
Sky+ is promissing and promoting the MOBILE REMOTE RECORDING on their website and I can't believe that OPERA can't view the site properly! You might wanna contact their technical support in order to get it solved!

Actually mate, it is possible to get one of the java apps for the sony phone to work aparently. Though I havent tried it on the diamond, but i did get it working on my wizard.
So, just download one of the sony ericson java remote record apps and install and try. Have a bit of a google.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=680256

You got 2 options to try here,
either just browse to the tv guide page on the sky page as normal, at the top it will give you the option for screen reader version. works a treat, bookmark it to save browsing the horrific sky homepage
you can always 1 up your iPhone freinds, grab skyfire browser, full web browsing including flash. just tried will check if it worked when I get home. Downside is skyfire needs good connection i.e wifi or 3g to work well.
either way less clutter on you phone, rather than the mess of utils you get on iPhone.
hope that helps.

That app has been around for time mate it was a java app and i had it on my symbian phone i think you can get it here they cover all versions
http://anytime.sky.com/mobile.aspx

It seems like owners of WM have to scour the entire globe to find software for their phones. While iPhone owners simply go to the app store and download them all in one place.

RubberDucky451 said:
It seems like owners of WM have to scour the entire globe to find software for their phones. While iPhone owners simply go to the app store and download them all in one place.
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You forget 1 thing:
If you have only 1 single place then this single place will most likely make the decision for you which applications will be available to you and which not - this is (unfortunately) quite common in the Apple Store! I am quite happy that I can different stuff on different places! Often you get your stuff directly from the developer's website where you then find as well support and forums for the particular product.
Now, think about the following: each super market in the world would be Wal-Mart ... go a step further and try to determine what you might find in Wal-Mart if no other stores are around anymore ... go the final step and try to get support from an Wal-Mart employee for the product you bought ... brrrrr!

That java app (which I used to use on an old sony ericsson) does not and will not work on a touch HD with its lack of buttons

Good news http://www.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/tvguide/tvlistingsalternate works in opera.
Bad news - there is no way to login to your account. opera/sky site simply doesnt remember your credentials :-(

why don't you wait for a dev phone like compulab exeda

Coders in room ?

Are there some coders with some time here ?
We can see that the mail apps on Android are not so good.
Is there one coder who can take a look to port "npop" a well known mail (pop) app on Windows Mobile ?
I have the sources available.
Thanks !

Unless the sources are in Java (which im sure windows mobile is programmed in some C derivative) then it'll be hard to just port it over. a vast majority of the code will have to be rewritten and it'd hardly be the same app. What are you looking for in a mail app specifically? Perhaps someone can write one with those features. Unfortunately I have very little experience in coding (I can do non-GUI stuff in Python, Ruby + C#) But I could have a go, some of it is probably very simple and i'm a master at editing already written code to make it better

Yes the main code is available in C and I know that the app have to be rewritten.
Maybe it can help to get some ideas to build a new app really similar.

What's so special in npop that the default G1 mail app lacks?
/Mats

That's what I was trying to get at... if, for example, it has IMAP support, or something the default mail app doesn't have, it'd be better to ask for a program to be written with that purpose in mind... but rewriting a program is a lot harder in many respects, not to mention depending on the liscence, you have to ask the auther for permission etc.

I use the default mail app to connect to my second gmail account via IMAP and it works just fine. There's a forked version of the default app called k9 that improves on the default app a lot. Google "g1 k9 mail"

I second the recommendation for K9, which lives at http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/ and is open source.
Perhaps give that a try and come back with suggestions for anything you don't like about it?

leon_citron is yet using k-9 and he is not happy with it...

Yes, clearly....
Try to read a file included in a mail for exemple, works sometimes, sometimes not...
Other exemple, you can delete mail from the phone, but not from server.
With npop, you can add filters, delete mails from phone or server, or both and many many more things

Bolt web browser

Bitstream releases BOLT 1.5 - the most reliable, stable and fastest browser in market
We are proud to announce that we’re officially dropping the beta tag with today’s release of BOLT 1.5. New features include viewing videos of any length, a dedicated search bar, a download manager that downloads files directly from BOLT, improved navigation and text rendering, and caching support. Version 1.5 includes a host of new features designed to improve usability and stability, including:
Server upgrades (make v1.5 more than 15% faster than Beta3)
Cache support that enables directly browsing back to a previously visited page
Download manager that downloads files directly within BOLT on JSR 75 capable devices
Dedicated search bar, enabling search on popular search engines directly from BOLT
Enhanced column width control that auto-aligns the text to columns for ease of reading
Enhanced video support that includes inline media playing capability even on low-end devices
Enhanced copy-paste support for BlackBerry devices
Support for streaming videos of any length
Volume UP/DOWN controls in the inline media player
Ability to rearrange the subscribed feeds using the 'grab' feature
Access to History links from the URL window with inline editing OFF
One click access on Home Page that ensures the cursor jumps to the desired widget
Download:
Code:
http://boltbrowser.com/aindex

this appears to be a java browser? am i correct?
is there a windows mobile cab somewhere?

Bolt has always been a Java browser, that's why I don't use it. It feels too limited for me.

I have made a bundled for local install. However, the notify still connects, but it should minimize the download. Full Cert version (dual signed) attached. Unzip, run the jad using your Java (JBED/JBlend). It should use the local bolt.jar file.
Java or not Java, I've been enjoying Opera Mini a lot, and been beta testing BOLT (not so good that time). I'll test again now that they have much richer options (including disable picture/image, which is important to me)

Does anyone know how to get the youtube flash content working in bolt? When I click on the selected video it ask to "Open URL"? And when I click yes it says, "Opera Invoke error". Any Ideas? Do I possibly need another program or something to get this to work.

it suck
i can't play video every time i click on play it loading to 100%then again show me to click plsy button then again circle goes on....why?HTC P3400

Youtube does't play too.

where's the back button?

UPDATE!!!
Updated BOLT 1.7
Extract, run the bolts2local.jad file that will pickup the local jar instead of going to the net.
Enjoy ..

BOLT 2.0 Beta
BOLT 2.0 Beta features include: socket transport protocol, copy-paste operations, favorites/feeds organization, inline editing, find in page feature, download manager, password manager and up to 3XL magnification.
Really fast on my Artemis WM 6.5.5 using Cloudyfa Esmertec Jbed. Excellent for reading and replying to xda-forum.
Can anyone suggest a suitable MIDlet manager that works from SD card and handles passwords?
Cheers
Tom
P.S. See added attached thumbnail of post being written in BoltBrowser:

with no flash this is just another browser frankly .

Bolt 2.1
Bolt 2.1 now available
http://boltbrowser.com/
"BOLT is a full featured mobile Web browser that supports widgets, direct Twitter and Facebook integration, streaming videos, RSS feeds, social media sites, Google Maps".
Can someone write a widget for xda-developers please?
Cheers
Tom

help!
Anyone help me, connection problem it can't connect using WIFI. I have O2 XDA Zinc other browser was able to connect via WIFI only Bolt that can't connect..

has anyone tried bolt 2.3? http://boltbrowser.com/dnld.html

mr8820 said:
has anyone tried bolt 2.3? http://boltbrowser.com/dnld.html
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Yes - Boltbrowser automatically updates to 2.3 which introduced a dowload site to help them make some money. Now that Skyfire has abandoned WM I use Bolt more along with Opera mini.
Every browser has advantages and disadvantages. I like the RSS feeds and large fonts.
Cheers, Tom

bolt browser
'opera invoke error' keep getting this from all video link on bolt browser 2.3

Best Practise Android <-> Webservice

I'm planning to build an app which has a client and a service part. but i have no plan how i should realize the communication. (should be as standardconform as possible).
I looked a bit around and found for now two ways, where each one has pros and contras.
kSOAP
Pro:
Standardconform
Servicedescription
Class Generation
Contra:
External Library
Slow
JSON
Pro:
Lightweight and fast
Buildin Library
Works in combination with a MVC (symfony)
Contra:
No Standard
No Servicedescription
No Class Generation
Kind regards
Ghost

I would use JSON. Most social networks use JSON for communication with apps. Just have a small HTTP server running and send the commands through POST methods and let the server return the JSON objects.

First off, JSON is a open standard, as defined in RFC 4627
Second off, the comparsion doesn't really hold imo, (k)SOAP is a structured information exchange protocol, JSON is merely a data serializer, like YAML. What they try to accomplish are to very different things. As for the added code that you'd have to write, unlike class generation handling JSON/YAML messages can be done very easily in one factory design-pattern setup. Hand the factory a message, it produces an instance of a specific class, if your messages are properly abstracted, this shouldn't be hard.

with JSON i meant to build such an information exchange around JSON. but this would be something selfmade and not a standard. while the information exchange with soap is a standard and each programmer would be able to build easily without much docu an client for that service. after i want to release that software under the gpl and plan the service as something open like jabber, it would make sense to design the data exchange between service and client as easy as possible.

GhostOfTheNet said:
with JSON i meant to build such an information exchange around JSON. but this would be something selfmade and not a standard. while the information exchange with soap is a standard and each programmer would be able to build easily without much docu an client for that service. after i want to release that software under the gpl and plan the service as something open like jabber, it would make sense to design the data exchange between service and client as easy as possible.
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Go with JSON. Just describe your API / exchanged JSON-Objects and every programmer would be fine with that.

so it seems, that noone thinks that soap is a googd thing... so i'll use json, thanks

if soap is too heavy, try xml-rpc, its like a simple version of soap

Is it already implemented in the android libs? Or is there somewhere an androitd lib for that out?
Regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

GhostOfTheNet said:
Is it already implemented in the android libs? Or is there somewhere an androitd lib for that out?
Regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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No, but the xml-rpc protocol is very simple you could easily write a small class to generate the required xml and send it over http
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML-RPC
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theres java classes linked to on that wikipedia page, that should work on android

Mobile-web-based text-messaging client/reader

I have a rather interesting idea, and I thought to post it here. I apologize if there is a more appropriate location for this thread, but, as I am new to XDA-Dev, I hope this will be forgiven, and someone could perhaps correct my mistake and move it or tell me what the proper thread location would be.
Also, as a recently-graduated high school student, I have plenty of free time before I start college, wherein I plan on learning a few programming languages, starting with Java, so I can develop for Android and iOS. This means that here at XDA-Dev, I'll hopefully soon become a very active user.
Now that the formalities are out of the way, I'll move on to my idea.
My phone is a Samsung Replenish(SPH-M580), which is a 600Mhz ARMv6, with 512M of RAM, EV-DO Sprint data network that saves me $10 monthly(Why I own it). The drawback to this phone is that even though it has multi-touch, the screen is a tiny 240*320 pixels. Now, I love Android, due to how open it is, but I have an Android-based phone and an iPod Touch 3rd Generation for my music needs(32GB).
When I'm at home, I don't touch my phone near as often as I do my iPod, and when I'm sitting on the couch browsing the web on my iPod, I don't want to have to keep switching to my phone. So my idea is this(And please, tell me if something has been made): If you can have replacement SMS clients such as Handcent and GO, then it should be possible to have an app on your phone that gives you access to your text messages in a browser-- But not just desktop PC browsers(Such as the access given by WebKey or PDA-net), in other mobile browsers, such as Opera Mobile, mobile Safari, etc.
I know it is possible, given the ease of using something like Handcent SMS, and I'm sure it would need root elevation unless there's a good userspace web server, but the question is, has it been done? If not, I'd like to try to get some help in the community with making it.
Sorry for the horrendously long post, but I think it's a good idea that should be attempted, at least.

As a Sprint user
I am also a Sprint user and I'd like to inform you of Sprint's great deal with Google Voice. (As a new user I can't post links so try Google for "Google Voice")
This effectively gives all Sprint users the ability to text via Web or any device with a Google Voice app at no additional cost.

I doubt that it's optimized for mobile browsers of small devices, but MightyText does work on many browsers. If you're ambitious enough, I'm sure you could write a script to optimize the layout yourself for a small device like an iPod. You might want to try downloading the MightyText app (listed as "Free Texting <-> PC SMS Messaging" on the market for some reason) and then going to "mightytext.net/app" on your iPod and seeing how it looks.

Alright, I tried out MightyText, and in the Mobile Safari app, MightyText looks like a scaled down desktop website. It would be cool if they added a Mobile view as well, but so far, it doesn't seem so.

mike12489 said:
I doubt that it's optimized for mobile browsers of small devices, but MightyText does work on many browsers. If you're ambitious enough, I'm sure you could write a script to optimize the layout yourself for a small device like an iPod. You might want to try downloading the MightyText app (listed as "Free Texting <-> PC SMS Messaging" on the market for some reason) and then going to "mightytext.net/app" on your iPod and seeing how it looks.
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The mobile site for Google Voice is optimized for Mobile viewing. Also the Google Voice app is much better than MightyText as it integrates very tightly with your phone number.

legacyweapon said:
The mobile site for Google Voice is optimized for Mobile viewing. Also the Google Voice app is much better than MightyText as it integrates very tightly with your phone number.
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I don't like the Google Voice app's way of doing things. I don't like that there's not an option to disable notifications from the Google Voice app itself.