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[Q] Help the Noob with definitions...

Ok, it's my first Droid phone, so these questions are going to seem incredibly stupid, but I'm just not sure what some of these acronyms mean:
RUU
AOSP
WIP
DeOdexed
And if the acronym isn't self-explanatory, a bit of explanation as to what these things are would be appreciated.
I'd like to be able to start contributing from time to time around here, but I often get stumped halfway through a thread trying to figure out what the hell someone's talking about.

James.Q.Campbell said:
Ok, it's my first Droid phone, so these questions are going to seem incredibly stupid, but I'm just not sure what some of these acronyms mean:
RUU
AOSP
WIP
DeOdexed
And if the acronym isn't self-explanatory, a bit of explanation as to what these things are would be appreciated.
I'd like to be able to start contributing from time to time around here, but I often get stumped halfway through a thread trying to figure out what the hell someone's talking about.
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RUU = Rom Update Utility (ones posted here are usually from the manufacturer to restore your phone in case you mess up)
AOSP = Android Open Source Project (here that usually refers to a ROM that's pure android)
WIP = Work In Progress (usually a ROM or app that's not considered stable yet)
Deodexed = (not sure what it stands for but I know a ROM can be odex which can't be themed and deodexed that can be themed)
Sent from my PG06100

Dread 7us said:
RUU = Rom Update Utility (ones posted here are usually from the manufacturer to restore your phone in case you mess up)
AOSP = Android Open Source Project (here that usually refers to a ROM that's pure android)
WIP = Work In Progress (usually a ROM or app that's not considered stable yet)
Deodexed = (not sure what it stands for but I know a ROM can be odex which can't be themed and deodexed that can be themed)
Sent from my PG06100
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And odex is a part of an app file that is separate from the app APK (Application installer kit, I believe, essentially is a .exe for android). Having this file allows for slightly faster boots as the boot information is stored in a separate file however it makes themeing very difficult. When a rom is DeOdexed it means the odex file has been merged with APK file hence it has been de-odexed!)
Hope that clears things up!

Ah, thanks.
Appreciate the help.

James.Q.Campbell said:
Ok, it's my first Droid phone, so these questions are going to seem incredibly stupid, but I'm just not sure what some of these acronyms mean:
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This is your first Android phone. Not a Droid. Droid is by Verizon and is a brand not an OS.
I'm Shifting on 4G.

riggsandroid said:
This is your first Android phone. Not a Droid. Droid is by Verizon and is a brand not an OS.
I'm Shifting on 4G.
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Was that necessary? A simple
Droid is a line of Android phones on Verizon fyi
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Would have worked fine.
Also, Droid is not a brand its a LucasArts trademark currently being used by Motorola, HTC, and Verizon for a certain line of Android smartphones. Don't correct people when you're wrong yourself. Bro.

Haha you said bro...
Anyways droid is not being used by HTC. And you know what he means by brand. He is trying to keep you from getting abused later by telling you what is up.
Why do 80% of all forum treads have to contain some sort of cat fight?
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BuddahWolf01 said:
Haha you said bro...
Anyways droid is not being used by HTC. And you know what he means by brand. He is trying to keep you from getting abused later by telling you what is up.
Why do 80% of all forum treads have to contain some sort of cat fight?
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The Droid Eris wasn't made by HTC? How about the Droid Incredible? Gosh you're right neither of those were HTC phones...oh wait, I guess they both were! Again, people really need to know their stuff before telling someone they're wrong =(
My point was that you don't need to be rude in telling someone they're wrong. I'm rude to rude people and nice to people who genuinely ask for help. Those who make assumptions and claims that are based entirely in the fiction of their minds while trying to prove other people wrong.
PS: I said 'bro' as a form of ironic mockery. Look it up sometime!
Oh and the reason "catfights" break out is because people like you two stroll in and act like a**hats!

kenvan19 said:
The Droid Eris wasn't made by HTC? How about the Droid Incredible? Gosh you're right neither of those were HTC phones...oh wait, I guess they both were! Again, people really need to know their stuff before telling someone they're wrong =(
My point was that you don't need to be rude in telling someone they're wrong. I'm rude to rude people and nice to people who genuinely ask for help. Those who make assumptions and claims that are based entirely in the fiction of their minds while trying to prove other people wrong.
PS: I said 'bro' as a form of ironic mockery. Look it up sometime!
Oh and the reason "catfights" break out is because people like you two stroll in and act like a**hats!
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My post was not rude. While Droid is a trademark owned by Lucas Film (as anyone can see on the fine print on their commercials) it is a BRAND of phones offered by Verizon. HTC and Motorola just call their phones what Verizon wants. Just as much as the EVO is now a brand of phones for Sprint.
Every thread you have posted in has turned into a fight and your posts only look to move the topic of discussion from what the OP intended by turning it personal. Please, if you cant use the forums as intended please refrain from "contributing".
Sorry OP if you think what I wrote was "rude", just trying to help you out with learning the lingo.

You are right about HTC after all, it was pretty late and I wasn't thinking clearly when I posted that. I was just taking up for riggs because I didn't find his post rude at all. He didn't add a smiley or anything... but at most it was just "straight forward." Your post is the first post in this thread that I would consider rude bro.
And he does have a point about alot of your posts being the posts that seem to start things off in a bad direction. (cat fight)

Please keep in friendly in here. We're all just here to develop and help Thank you

Here is the Xoom build.prop thanks to thefredelement

Guys,
Have at it ! Here is the Xoom build.prop thanks to thefredelement... Give him a HUGE thanks for sharing this
Just download it; then extract the zip file and there you go!!!
Thanks again thefredelement !!!

Does this mean we will have honeycomb soon or do we still need the drivers from nvidia?

You still need a boot.img. Just so you know people have had access to the xoom for more than a week already and have been working on this.

Thanks, but based on the early indications this fingerprint will actually cause the market to shrink rather than expand. It is interesting to read though as it specifically states nosdcard, and does include the telephony stuff, if nothing else there is potential that once we have a honeycomb port 3G usb modem drivers may become available.

I just posted this so we could take a look at what was in it... it is a good read if nothing else ;-)

thebadfrog said:
You still need a boot.img. Just so you know people have had access to the xoom for more than a week already and have been working on this.
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I would have thanked you but I've exceeded my max per didn't know there was a maximum. You learn something new everyday.
Anyways, it's also my understanding that to get the boot.img, the Xoom will need to be rooted. Is that correct? So, is that what we should be really looking for? Xoom has been rooted threads?

Look for "Rom based on Honeycomb". And yes it needs root. It will happen people. Posting endless honeycomb threads is not gonna make it any faster.

Ok I'm kind of a noob, please don't slam me 'frog. Since the whole purpose of Android and the whole Open Source thing is to make source available, don't either Motorola, nVidia or Google NEED to release this Honeycomb-Tegra 2 code at some point. I do realize that there may be proprietary pieces but I thought once you used open source code, you were obliged to release your resulting code to the community. Am I missing something here or is all this chatter just an attempt to get it faster?
I hate seeing all of the teaser threads as well, but I also try to keep an open mind and view it more as humorous than obnoxious. I'm sure the real dev's are quite adept at skipping and ignoring the stupid comments by people like me.
I'm just saying ...

thebadfrog said:
Look for "Rom based on Honeycomb". And yes it needs root. It will happen people. Posting endless honeycomb threads is not gonna make it any faster.
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Lol. I shouldn't have posted the last two sentences. It's not like I was saying that I was being impatient. Just wanted to learn that's all.
I'm assuming we'll see a lot of the bits and pieces of the XOOM system posted in here and just wanted to know what's relevant or not.
Thanks again.

Its all good. I understand people wanna learn.
Yes they have to release anything that is open source but if you use linux you can use the nvidea and ati example. They don't release their proprietary libs for their cards and as a result its quite likely when you upgrade your kernel you break your video drivers. Its not so bad now but a couple years ago I couldnt keep an ati card working.
All the endless threads that are repeats make it nearly impossible for noobs to find good information and it makes it harder for me to link the correct posts for noobs to follow. Everyone was new at one time but you will never learn anything if you keep asking and not looking. This is a developer forum....xda DEVELOPERS.... not a customer service forum. Most devs here go out of their way to answer questions as do a few of us power users. My tirades are not directed at people like the 2 previous posts. Its the ones that dont want help. They want someone to hold there hand and type out each and every command for them and supply them a fix for every problem. And they want it now

sverbanic said:
Ok I'm kind of a noob, please don't slam me 'frog. Since the whole purpose of Android and the whole Open Source thing is to make source available, don't either Motorola, nVidia or Google NEED to release this Honeycomb-Tegra 2 code at some point. I do realize that there may be proprietary pieces but I thought once you used open source code, you were obliged to release your resulting code to the community. Am I missing something here or is all this chatter just an attempt to get it faster?
I hate seeing all of the teaser threads as well, but I also try to keep an open mind and view it more as humorous than obnoxious. I'm sure the real dev's are quite adept at skipping and ignoring the stupid comments by people like me.
I'm just saying ...
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Typically one week is the lead time afforded the trail blazing device for each generation of Android, and then the plain vanilla source AOSP is posted at source.android.com (read about git first, where the kernel is posted). However none of the proprietary information in specific devices needs to be made available right away.

Will th devs that made the honeynook sdk preview be able to update that if they get a Xoom, amd in turn would that help the g tab devs?

I'm just curious about how much of a problem the fact that the XOOM has a Gig of system ram rather than 512 megs will be. I could see an easy way to protect some exclusivity under the guise of "ensuring compatibility" where one of the first boot steps is to check for enough available ram...

Good thing my Zpad has 1 gig ram then eh

boot img and tegra 2 aosp source here
http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-vega-vega-modaco-com/333138/xoom-rootboot-img/#entry1614605
I think.

Alpha06 said:
boot img and tegra 2 aosp source here
http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-vega-vega-modaco-com/333138/xoom-rootboot-img/#entry1614605
I think.
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It's a Xoom boot.img, and the (tegra 2) kernel source for honeycomb (2.6.36).

Ok, per Engadget Xoom has been rooted... Next?

Here are the init files as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11615922&postcount=9
You can get a rooted boot image here: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2011/02/motorola-xoom-rooted.html

Love it when things start moving at nearly the speed of light,... uh oh, getting dizzy... frog, will you hold my hand?

MikeTheSith200 said:
Will th devs that made the honeynook sdk preview be able to update that if they get a Xoom, amd in turn would that help the g tab devs?
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The Nook is so heavily supported because it's so god damn cheap for a tablet. (it's really an "e-reader")
there was no touch interface released with the version of honeycomb from the preview sdk.
With a real Honeycomb product (and full SDK) full development is possible.
If you wait, They will build it, we will come. =]

[Q] I'm a dev, would it be hard to a cornerstone

Hello,
I'm extremely good with computers and done a few years worth of programming. I saw cornerstone and it looked really good. How would one go about integrating it into a asus or other rom build. I took a look at the source and it looks like a matter of adding the files. Is this somewhat correct? Also if i managed to whip up a version could it brick my device (to the point where I can't reflash or nandroid) from flashing it?
Thanks

roflcopterofl said:
I'm extremely good with computers and done a few years worth of programming.
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Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.

horndroid said:
Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
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I never said I was good with android. I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
I would watch where you flash you smart ass comments because you can't judge what someone knows based on a internet comment.

roflcopterofl said:
I never said I was good with android. I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
I would watch where you flash you smart ass comments because you can't judge what someone knows based on a internet comment.
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Well, considering that you know nothing about Android development, and TBH if you were really interested in Android development and had years of programming experience, it should be very easy, provided you know anything about Java, to begin programming Android. But with a few years of programming experience, you should know a lot of Java, right?

I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
Now let's put that aside and possibly stop trolling, and get the main focus of this thread.

luna_c666 said:
Well, considering that you know nothing about Android development, and TBH if you were really interested in Android development and had years of programming experience, it should be very easy, provided you know anything about Java, to begin programming Android. But with a few years of programming experience, you should know a lot of Java, right?
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Java isn't the only programming language that exists. I'm sure you realize that. I can already tell my your abrupt attitude that you have something against me (I'm sure because of the rooting thread). No reason exists why that should occur. It was a simple question where no trolling should reside.
Edit: Maybe I misinterpreted your comment, if so my apologizes. Yes I've been doing java for the last 6 months (on and off but I've came back fully for the last month). The other months were simple learning and reverse engineering(Which the 5 months could be questionably be worthless seeing that after I went back to the code I was reverse engineering everything made 25 times more sense then before)

Android is based on java. It uses a linux kernel. You should familiarize with these. No I wasn't being snide- the rooting thread was weird I admit, but I was actually just giving an earnest answer- you may not be the only one that reads it.

horndroid said:
Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
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Listen, smart-ass, you ever heard of specialization? Just because someone is a physicist doesn't mean he knows everything in the field of physics. Just because someone is a programmer doesn't mean he knows everything about programming. If you have an allergic reaction, would you go to a proctologist or an allergist? If the proctologist would admit to his ignorance of someone's allergic reaction, would you question that he's a doctor at all?
I'm an engineer. Would you doubt I'm an engineer if if I told you I know nothing about chemical engineering?

This is why when programmers talk to each other, they don't say "I'm a programmer". Usually, they say "I'm a java programmer" or "I'm a visual basic programmer", etc. I once knew a C++ guy that almost pulled his hair out over the fact that you could only send one value from one method to another in java. Surprise surprise, the languages are designed differently as well.

I give up... not !!!..... but the troll will be no more

I realized right before I posted the last post that nothing will bring you out of your misconceptions.

The OP asked a legitimate question which you are now derailing by grandstanding as if you know anything. You've posted a lot in this thread already and in none of those posts have you been of any help. At the very least, you could help by keeping this post back on track by giving a proper response within topic.
I too am extremely good at computers and have been doing programming since 1982. But for the life of me I also wouldn't know how to integrate Cornerstone into ICS. Now since the poster asked the question relating to that, and you've so far posted more than anybody here in this thread, we are waiting for your answer to the OP's question...if you have any.
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I was doubting his claim that he was extremely good at computer. "Extremely" is the keyword.
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The only misconception here is you think I was doubting the OP's specialization, which I clearly wasn't.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
If you read those two quotes from what you posted, you will see how stupid you look right now.

Horndroid, I think you are talking a lot but you don't really know the IT world...
I'm an IT professionnal, I'm developing in Java for about 4 years now and I don't know anything about Android development...
Do you really think a dev knows every programming language and every platform ?
I don't want to be rude but your answers are realy just spam to me and I really think you don't know what you are talking about !
The OP was just asking a question if you don't have any useful answer to give, avoid spamming his thread !

Horndroid .....not knowing
It seems that right now you're the one specializing in it.

WHY DONT YOU BOTH SHUT UP AND LET PEOPLE ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION
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roflcopterofl, maybe you should ask the mod to delete this thread and try again. Good luck with finding what you need. Hope this event doesn't persuade you to give up. I hear there are a lot of people interested in working with cornerstone, so someone is bound to have the information you are looking for.

From what I've read from the developer who was working on officially integrating Cornerstone in to CM9 (and then abandoned), the Cornerstone code is a mess and kind of hard to work with. If you're not experienced with Android development specifically, it's going to be tough (although not impossible - just very difficult).

typci said:
roflcopterofl, maybe you should ask the mod to delete this thread and try again. Good luck with finding what you need. Hope this event doesn't persuade you to give up. I hear there are a lot of people interested in working with cornerstone, so someone is bound to have the information you are looking for.
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+1 on this.
I am interested in working on this to. Not chemically, mechanically or even EXTREMELY. Just interested. Please don't tell my allergist or proctologist though
We can get the source code from the Onskreen site or is it on github too?

Woodrube said:
+1 on this.
I am interested in working on this to. Not chemically, mechanically or even EXTREMELY. Just interested. Please don't tell my allergist or proctologist though
We can get the source code from the Onskreen site or is it on github too?
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https://github.com/onskreen/cornerstone

Haha ok thanks. Nothing wrong with a little argument of it leads to progress. I've been doing java for half a year but recently I've really picked it up. The other programming languages were lua (for a day lol), basic, visual basic, Html (markup but still). I do not know every language nor do I claim to. GoodIntentions won that argument by a long shot. My statement wasn't mean to be relative to other's knowledge. It was simply saying that I've done things like this in the past and have no fear. Could a mod lock this before it gets flamed.
Thanks

Samsung ATIV S ----- Verizon GS3?.....

Looking to pay anyone for fully functional WP8 Samsung Aviv S port to Verizon GS3.....Thinking it's possible since this was done between 2 HTC devices before. HD2.

Wrong section.
There are multiple threads about this already in general and Q and A.

bbeelzebub said:
Wrong section.
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Give the guy a break, he has only been here since 2007 and just learning the ropes!

bbeelzebub said:
Wrong section.
There are multiple threads about this already in general and Q and A.
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[email protected] said:
Give the guy a break, he has only been here since 2007 and just learning the ropes!
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You guys realize that you just look like security guards, right? No real power, but love to think you do by being sarcastic flamers. You're annoying for no other reason than to think you're somebody you're clearly not. You took time to be annoyed instead of continuing to scroll. Maybe if you left your parents' basement for an hour, you would realize how ridiculous you look to people with lives.
That being said I would love to see a port and will offer to add to the bounty. Thanks OP for getting this started.

fearjego said:
You guys realize that you just look like security guards, right? No real power, but love to think you do by being sarcastic flamers. You're annoying for no other reason than to think you're somebody you're clearly not. You took time to be annoyed instead of continuing to scroll. Maybe if you left your parents' basement for an hour, you would realize how ridiculous you look to people with lives.
That being said I would love to see a port and will offer to add to the bounty. Thanks OP for getting this started.
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I would say something as witty as you have, except my mom is on her way down the stairs right now to bring me a box of Little Debbie Snack Cakes while I watch some Star Trek.

I am obliged to reprimand the OP bit because I think WP8 on our phone would be awesome, I don't mind seeing this here. And I am glad everyone now knows about this. I bet there are many others interested.
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bbeelzebub said:
Wrong section.
There are multiple threads about this already in general and Q and A.
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I apologize, n thanks

bbeelzebub said:
I would say something as witty as you have, except my mom is on her way down the stairs right now to bring me a box of Little Debbie Snack Cakes while I watch some Star Trek.
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Why didn't you call me for a sleep over bro?! Star trek, snack cakes, and your mom is hot. You're not my bff anymore!

This would definitely stop me from buy a Windows 8 phone. And I am getting one... somehow!!

fearjego said:
You guys realize that you just look like security guards, right? No real power, but love to think you do by being sarcastic flamers. You're annoying for no other reason than to think you're somebody you're clearly not. You took time to be annoyed instead of continuing to scroll. Maybe if you left your parents' basement for an hour, you would realize how ridiculous you look to people with lives.
That being said I would love to see a port and will offer to add to the bounty. Thanks OP for getting this started.
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Whether or not they are being like security guards, they are right about this going in general. As there is currently no actual development taking place, this is just a thread clogging the dev section. Until there is at least a preview build, this should be moved. Honest mistake by the op. Mod, please move or close the thread.
Via my Google Galaxy Nexus with Butter

Please reaf forum rule 15 before posting anything
Development is for developers to release roms, kernels and mods
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does anyone else see that the phone looks like it is a GS3 in a new shell (which i like very much)

I'd love to see a Windows 8 ROM on our phones. I played with a widows phone for a bit before I got rid of it and I really liked it
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I mentioned this in one of the other threads, but the Ativ S was seen on the Verizon roadmap. I believe that would simplify some of the process in porting it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Leak...redible-X-LG-Spectrum-2-and-many-more_id34726
Now, according to somebody in the HD2 forum, it would be difficult because, "the problem is going to be to hack the security and flash HSPL then magldr over that new bootloader." I've no clue what that means. :shrug:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863841

fearjego said:
That being said I would love to see a port and will offer to add to the bounty. Thanks OP for getting this started.
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I agree, OP, you should change the title of the thread to include the word "bounty" in it. I would be willing to put $30 toward this if it can be done.

This Would be awesome if it happend.

It will be awesome... But I have the international version
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I Hope L1020 gets Android Love like HTC HD2

Not spamming, I know this is difficult, but well, still hopeful.:crying:

But it's simply impossible due to non-crackable bootloaders in all WP8 phones.

kristiancarl said:
Not spamming, I know this is difficult, but well, still hopeful.:crying:
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You kiding right ?
Android Sucks big time.

boumboqc said:
You kiding right ?
Android Sucks big time.
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about 80% of the people in this forum (I mean the whole XDA forum) could give you inumerous reasons as to why you're wrong. I however don't think it's worth it because it's your opinion. and your opinion shouldn't be stated as a fact. the OP wasn't kidding, as he and many more people would love to see a great Nokia device running Android, which is the favorite OS of many.

PLUG313 said:
about 80% of the people in this forum (I mean the whole XDA forum) could give you inumerous reasons as to why you're wrong. I however don't think it's worth it because it's your opinion. and your opinion shouldn't be stated as a fact. the OP wasn't kidding, as he and many more people would love to see a great Nokia device running Android, which is the favorite OS of many.
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The query however - as mentioned above (bootloader) is impossible and has been asked over and over again. I agree, this post is redundant and unneeded as it will simply not happen. If one prefers Android or Windows Phone is personal choice and irrelevant to the initial post.