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NetFront Browser v3.5 Concept Version

Hi Guys!
Has anyone of you already tested the new NetFront Browser v3.5?
I just downloaded and played around with it a little while and I must admit it's as good as Opera 9.5.
In fact I think it's a little bit better because it works cleaner. It doesn't fill the memory of the Universal in the way as Opera does.
So please try out and post your experiences.
Thanx

Yes, i've tried it too, in my opinion NetFront is much better then Opera, works very fast and with no lag. Other good think is, that it works also from SD card

Yes you're right man
After a long intensive use of Opera I mostly had to reboot my Uni.
And the NetFront is much better adjustable, I think.

i been using Netfront 3.5 form the week it come out and i love it, it's faster and better than Opera 9.5, PIE 6.1, Picsel 1.2 or any other browser i've used. Obviouly it's my default browser, and it's just awsome.

It takes longer than IE to load and uses more memory, but...
It renders *A LOT* better and is much faster and less processor hungry
I'd strongly recommend it if you are doing any web browsing

Can someone post a link?
I am willing to try it, but where?
Gracias

orb3000 said:
I am willing to try it, but where?
Gracias
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Hi orb3000,
Here's the link for the download:
http://www.access-company.com/products/mobile_solutions/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
Cheers

Just been trying this one myself, having used earlier versions of NetFront pretty extensively in the past.
Certainly no where near as fast to load as Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta, but I do think it is faster than PIE (maybe about the same as Opera Mobile 8.65). The upside for me is that it seems to be far more stable than any of the leaked/hacked versions of the Opera Mobile currently around. The downside, and it is a pretty big one for my usage, is that it can only download one file at a time and while it is downloading you cannot even continue surfing. I use my browser quite a lot for downloading mp3s and music clips and this is a big handicap.

LifeIsAnUpgrade said:
Hi orb3000,
Here's the link for the download:
http://www.access-company.com/products/mobile_solutions/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
Cheers
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Thanks LifeIsAnUpgrade, but I don´t know what is happening, when I click on download cab file, simply does not download nothing.
Do you have another link or mirror?
Gracias!

Well - I have the opposite experience.
I was using the 'older' NetFront 3.5 for *ages* before Opera 9.5 Betas started to arrive, and at first found Opera 9.5 unusable.
But - the latter builds - 1006 & 1123 - have both been great.
I tried switching back to NetFront when the new version came out (and posted in General ), but was continually having "not enough memory" errors from NetFront. I just don't get that from Opera.
So - for me at least, Opera 9.5 1123 is the one for the moment.
-PJC

Here is rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/90687618/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R006CV.cab
Enjoy

Win_XP said:
Here is rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/90687618/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R006CV.cab
Enjoy
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Actually, that's the old version, which expires at the end of this month.
Here's the new version, even though I prefer Opera
http://rapidshare.com/files/118357056/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R007CV.CAB.html
This one expires at the end of August.
-PJC

Thanks for the correction man, btw there is no smartphone version right?

I got that from their website, and as far as I know it's the only available version.
Who knows what they're going to do once they actually release the damn thing!
-PJC

Win_XP said:
Thanks for the correction man, btw there is no smartphone version right?
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I tried to install the latest version to the smartphone emulator and it starts and look corrupt. Does look OK when placed in fullscreen mode, though (softkeys and menus are usable).
Didn't seem to be able to browse the internet, though it may well be an emulator issue with my local network config.

I like this but I get too many certificate and DNS errors popping up, so much so that I have to use Opera Mobile 9 instead as - much as it is prone to being unstable - it does at least work properly.

Javascript in Opera Mobile

I was using TyTN II before I got the fuze, and using opera on the TyTN II I could access hotmail and google reader's iphone interface through opera mobile(not opera mini). However I can not do that on the opera browser on the fuze. When I install macromedia flash player 7 google reader starts to work(however without the stars to mark the items) but on a soft reset it stops working, the starting page loads up but the items do not display. The same goes for hotmail which works with a fresh install of flash player 7(again inbox displays but nothing happens on clicking e-mail items) and stops working on a soft reset. I am confused as to what is happening here. Sorry if this has been answered, I could not find it. Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to change the user agent as that renders cingular video unusable for me.

Still looking for help on this issue......

I know what you mean. On my "good old" HTC Touch I could do almost anything with Opera, but now I can't with my Pro.
If anybody knows something more about this, please help us. I would really use my online stock-trader application again; now I'm stuck with the mobile version...
BTW, Could it possible be a JAVA-issue? Somewhere oOn JAVA.COM I read that they don't support Windows Mobile anymore?
Edit: just saw the Title: "Javascript in Opera Mobile", so it IS a JAVA-issue I guess...

Ya, I would have said to change the user agent, but you said you don't want to do that. As far as flash I didn't think that Opera supported it. Skyfire does. It does pretty well actually, to the point you can watch you tube videos on the actuall website. not the mobile site. It isn't quite as good of resolution, but you might want to give it a shot.

It's weird that the things I mentioned were wokring fine on opera mobile on my TyTN II, but have problems on the fuze. Like I said after a fresh install of macromedia flash player 7, they seem to work partially but stop working after a soft reset. There is got to be a solution to this. Advanced users help please.

are you talking about this? It works fine on mine.
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I don't know how exactly everything's supposed to work, but some portions don't work for me either, even under ie and firefox (desktop)

I think this is related with some kind of ajax library not fully supported in this current Opera Mobile version. As far as I can see for example at http://www.google.com/ig/i the igoogle gadgets simply don't get their content displayed (maybe a problem with iframe refresh?)
I add it working though with the latest OperaMobile cab version downloaded from Opera's website.
Is there a way to have that one running just like the preinstalled one and not as an alternate browser?

Just found another mobile browser, called "Irisbrowser", that almost supports anything. IMO its better than Opera but hasn't got the nice looks of Opera. But works fine with Flash/JAVA etc.
If any of you still have any problems with Opera, you can install and try the Beta version of Irisbrowser. It's available for free at http://www.irisbrowser.com/

I'm currently running Opera Mobile 9.5.15202 (here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459378) and, at least with http://google.com/ig/i, it just works great!

BAsocial said:
Just found another mobile browser, called "Irisbrowser", that almost supports anything. IMO its better than Opera but hasn't got the nice looks of Opera. But works fine with Flash/JAVA etc.
If any of you still have any problems with Opera, you can install and try the Beta version of Irisbrowser. It's available for free at http://www.irisbrowser.com/
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Have you tried Skyfire?

opera mobile 10 apk

i know it was just announced but has anybody gotten the app yet? its supposed to be going out to carriers and oem's, not us consumers(yet). im hopoing someone leaks it quick! or does someone already have it? if so please share

really? were? site? >_> I DONT BELIVE YOU lol

http://www.androidcentral.com/opear-mobile-available-android-you-cant-have-it-yet

somebody has to leak it 1!!!1

apparently chances of that are low... but!!! now theyve announced that opera mini 5 is coming soon!!! anybody have that yet??

I was using Opera Mini 5 beta on WM6.1 and it was good, but it felt a bit too mobile. Every page I went on was loading in mobile mode, an sites with flash never loaded properly for me. I had a slide out keyboard, and I am sure it was a beta issue, but it was forcing me use the on screen keyboard. It was decent, but on a 2.8in screen felt very cramped. Opera 10 beta on the other hand loaded a bit slower to start up and web page loading was noticeably slower. However, web pages loaded more normal for me. That was on WM6.1 on a decently speedy device, on Android things could be a whole different story.

well i think either one, will be the best browser for android so far. mainly i like it because of that amazing speed in loading pages! even 4.2 is fast and i'd use that except the UI is horrible...

Opera mini5 (beta) was the best browser while I was using winmobile devices!
The interface was clever, the way it handled tabs was genius, it was sooo damn fast and the fact that you could go back in your browsing history without the browser reloading the page from the scratch was damn useful. I so hate that on the android browser (well, on actual browsers in general).
I'm really looking forward to the android-version but I'm afraid it won't support the hardware-keyboard of my G1 =(

So, is there any compelling reason to use Opera Mobile 10 over the Android browser? Will HTC flash work with Mobile 10? I can see a reason to use Mini 5 as that is a fast browser, and is fairly light. However, I can't see any reason to use Mobile 10 other than preference.

Well, if Opera 10 should support a double-tap to zoom feature I will for sure use it over the android one. I absolutely dont like those 2 zooming buttons floating all over the content which only appear once I start scrolling.

Evoce said:
Well, if Opera 10 should support a double-tap to zoom feature I will for sure use it over the android one. I absolutely dont like those 2 zooming buttons floating all over the content which only appear once I start scrolling.
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Sorry not to get ot, but we took care of the stock browser a long time ago, check it out: WWW.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551119
To the op, this does look like it might be pretty nice, how ever always been happy with the modded stock, or a hero browser. Any idea on what phone is gonna have this as oem firest?

Opera 10 for android looks amazing. if you watch the video preview of it. Right now the best browser for android is the Dolphin Browser though. .. ooh and windows mobile people.. Skyfire is the only way to go.

Which video are you referring to?
Maybe I am not really getting it but what advantage does Opera Mobile have over the Android browser? I loved Opera on my WM device and I can understand using it based on preference. However, with the Android browser working the way it does, isn't it a bit redundant? Or again maybe I am not getting it?

tbaker077 said:
Which video are you referring to?
Maybe I am not really getting it but what advantage does Opera Mobile have over the Android browser? I loved Opera on my WM device and I can understand using it based on preference. However, with the Android browser working the way it does, isn't it a bit redundant? Or again maybe I am not getting it?
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The browser has better support for CSS/HTML/JavaScript...
You can see the differences between the browsers on:
http://www.quirksmode.org/m/css.html
and
http://www.quirksmode.org/m/table.html
Please note that the Nokia E66 browser matches the new Opera 10 beta the most. The other version is 9.5 which is already a year old. I'm really waiting for a Opera 10 release on android, since the android browser has some shortcomings when you want to create mobile websites (I shall spare you the details).

I guess I will have to try it out when it comes outs to see the differences. It's to bad they don't add the proxy features of Opera Mini on Mobile.

is it out yet?! :[

tbaker077 said:
Which video are you referring to?
Maybe I am not really getting it but what advantage does Opera Mobile have over the Android browser? I loved Opera on my WM device and I can understand using it based on preference. However, with the Android browser working the way it does, isn't it a bit redundant? Or again maybe I am not getting it?
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its the speed!!! look do this
go to the market and download the current opera mini 4.2
once installed get a timer or something and go to any website(including this one if you want, just make sure you go to exactly the same page)
time it
now go to the same page with the android browser.
you should see a HUGE speed difference. im not exactly sure how opera does this, but i heard once it has something to do with a compression method that opera uses that makes pages load very quickly!
all in all, i have no idea how opera does it, i just know that its FAST. and definitely faster than the android browser. i really dont care that its opera i just care abuot that speeeeeed!

Yes, I agree about Opera Mini, but I am referring to Opera Mobile.

tbaker077 said:
Yes, I agree about Opera Mini, but I am referring to Opera Mobile.
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well supposedly also opera mini is made for any mobile phone? i think. but opera mobile is made spcifically for more advanced smartphones. like you cant use opera mobile on some cheapy flip phone. but you probably could use opera mini on it. i THINK. im probably wrong or idk i dont really care i just want a better browser than the slow android one. either that or the faster 3g from tmobile.. but i think even then the browser would still be slow..

Having tried alot of different browsers through the span of my cell phones I believe Opera Mini is the fastest but it may have to do with the mobile view of the websites.
Dolphin is also very good.. I like that its theme able and its relatively fast.
I'm also anxious in the official release of Opera Mobile 10... it will have other features and will be most likely fix the problem of opera mini loading pages as mobile and not full version as in a desktop or laptop would display.

FireFox for WM

Hi
I just installed Fennec (FireFox) and it's works okay, but still with some knowen issues. E.g. landscape and hardware zoom still dont work.
It's a Alpha 3, and you can download it her Fennec Alpha3

For me, Fennec browser is too buggy and jerky, i suggest you get opera 10 beta 2u for landscape support and greater stability and usability

I could not agree more. FF is just not very usable at the moment in its current state.

i tried it about a month ago. i think its ridiculous how much memory it uses up. ill use ff on the pc but on mobile i actually like the new ie in 6.5, its fast and light. if mozilla can make ff mobile lighter it might be good but right now its un usable.

Still a Beta
Well, remember it's still a Beta version, so of course there is a lots of things that needs to be fixed - that's why is's a Beta. But i think it's exiting to see what they are planing for the final version.
I still use Opera 9.7 for normal browsing.

I also think that Opera is still the best as for now. But I installed Skyfire (it supports flash) and I found it really luggy when it comes to flash... Just thought I'll share that with you

I've tested Fennec 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 CAB file and al; three works but it works crap. It's to slow on my Topaz.
I use the stock Opera HTC (dutch) put on my device and IE. I've also had Opera 9.7 or 10 on my device but that doesn't work as proper as the stock Opera (guess it's Opera 5). I've allready downloaded Skyfire but I haven't be able to test it, old habbits keeps you using your old browsers.

Opera Mobile 10.1 Released

You can get it here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/android/mobile/10.1/

Won't open for me. I installed it and whenever I try to open it, it says "Opera Mobile" and then it just closes. Doesn't say anything about a force close, just closes...
Update: uninstalled and reinstalled and this time did not move it to SD card. It works now but it is quite a large file. 21 mb installed on phone. I'll give it a try, though, and see if it is any better than opera mini (which I currently use).
What is supposed to make it better than opera mini, anyway?

mdizzle9 said:
Won't open for me. I installed it and whenever I try to open it, it says "Opera Mobile" and then it just closes. Doesn't say anything about a force close, just closes...
Update: uninstalled and reinstalled and this time did not move it to SD card. It works now but it is quite a large file. 21 mb installed on phone. I'll give it a try, though, and see if it is any better than opera mini (which I currently use).
What is supposed to make it better than opera mini, anyway?
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Its their full browser experience

It's not what it used to be compared to the progress the native Android browser has become. When I was using wm 6+ it was the **** though.

astro?
used astro but it wont install

So far the browser has perfect for me in every way except there is no pinch to zoom. Hopefully this gets added quickly.

better link
pinch is working great. Turbo is fast. loaded engadget in under 4 sec
http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/11/android-opera-mobile-10-1-beta-available-now-via-operas-ftp-site/

It is available in the market now as well.

Flash doesn't work with it?

It looks like opera has their own version of the market. When I looked at one of the default links on the start page it brought a list of software. It is faster for me than the stock. I don't think it will do flash. I know the new skyfire beta will.

I really like Opera and Firefox BUT why is it that 3rd party browsers haven't gotten their "flash act" together yet? With a stock browser that works well PLUS has flash, I just find myself skipping over Opera Mini, Skyfire (the flash is great but the brower experience is lacking) and most recently, Firefox.
If they could just combine some of the basics (flash) of our native browser with their excellent browser experience, I think lots and lots of people would jump ship.
Thanks for the heads up post guys.

No flash = No go for me!!! I'll stick to either the stock browser or Dolphin HD (the tabbed browsing, themes and plug-ins available are awesome, btw!!!)

I tried it out. it stopped zooming in and out even if i force closed it and restarted it. Tried changing options and whatnot too. No go. So I just uninstalled it. My web browsing is too important not to be able to zoom and read stuff lol.
I know it's a beta though. Maybe the final product i'll give a go round.
Imma try the skyfire beta. I use dolphin HD for everythign right now and it's great.
Once the MIUI browser gets reflowing imma prolly use that for everything.