Change TV Out resolution - Touch Pro, Fuze General

HI all ,
i jsut installed NYDITOT Virtual Display .. which worked perfect on my old x51v
.. but it seems it doesnt recognice the external display.
they write
External Display Support
Today's Pocket PC devices have more than enough speed, memory, connectivity and feature rich applications to serve as the principal computing device for many, if not most, computer users. The only true limitation is the ergonomics of data entry and visualization. Productivity is greatly limited by hunt and peck typing with a stylus and the tedium of scrolling large documents or spreadsheets on a tiny screen. In addition, true mobility is limited by the constant need to sync data and move documents between your Pocket PC, laptop, work and home computers. A preferred scenario would be to keep all your data in one place; in a truly mobile device that could transform itself to meet your varying ergonomic needs. NVD on a Pocket PC can do just that by supporting external video display adapters and input devices from a number of manufactures.
To date, external display adapters for Pocket PC's have been used primarily with applications like Pocket PowerPoint for presentations. The shadowing programs that come with these devices merely recreate the tiny desktop in the center of the large external display. This tiny, low resolution output coupled with the lack of a mouse pointer makes the external display is of little practical use. With NVD, the highest resolution supported by the adapter can be realized (up to 1024x768 on some adapters). NVD also adds a mouse pointer which responds to both stylus and external mouse movements. When used with a keyboard (wired or wireless), this results in resolutions and ergonomics comparable to a desktop. NVD sends video updates to the external display as they occur resulting in vastly improved performance when compared to the shadowing programs which continually refresh the entire display on an intermittent cycle.
Following is a list of the external video display adapters which are currently supported by NVD. Links have been provided to the product pages on the manufacturers' web sites. If any of these links are broken, please visit the manufacturer's home page to locate the product of interest.
Colorgraphic Voyager VGA CompactFlash
LifeView FlyPresenter CompactFlash
Margi Presenter-to-Go CompactFlash
Toshiba e740 Expansion Pack
Toshiba e800 Expansion Pack
so my question is ... is there a similary program out u can use for the htc touch pro ? since i would like to have higher resolutions thatn 640x480 at the tv out
thx for advice

Well, you could use RedFly.

thanks for the reply but i sure dont want to buy a extra device
there has to be a "software" way for setting the resolution up (virtualy)
like with that old nydiot program

Isn't it just a composite tv out? If so, you can't change resolutions. With my PPC (X51v), you could do that only because it was a VGA out.

Latty said:
Isn't it just a composite tv out? If so, you can't change resolutions. With my PPC (X51v), you could do that only because it was a VGA out.
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Yep, that's why I suggested RedFly, because you need VGA/DVI/HDMI/Component output to have anything higher than 720x480 (which actually doesn't even go that high with composite).
So unfortunately AFAIK you do need extra hardware to do that with Touch Pro.

doh ,) .. ic oky thank you very much for the info ... i was used to my axim to didnt even think bout its a normal composite now ,)

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ALL Secrets of making Pocket PC screenshots

It was a year ago that I’ve published my well-known (for example, it made to Sticky in the MobilitySite Applications forum) Making screenshots of the Pocket PC (alternates: MobilitySite, AximSite, PPCT, FirstLoox, BrightHand, PocketMatrix). Now that WM5 is out, I found it absolutely necessary to rewrite the old article to have, for example, WM5- and more gaming-related information.
In this article, you’ll find a LOT of secrets never published anywhere. You may already have been aware of all Compaq / HP iPAQ’s being able to take screenshots by themselves, but, for example, have you been aware of that you can take auto shots (shots taken one after another, without human intervention) by two Pocket PC-based screen capture applications, and with additional three with some manual “hacking” (don’t be afraid, it’ll be VERY easy!)? Did you know that, however much Vidya Pocket Screen Capture doesn't allow for suppressing the pretty annoying camera sound, you can get rid of it easily, by just deleting the WAV sound file it's stored in? Were you aware of the fact that many screen grabber applications that are considered NOT to be VGA compatible are able to be "forced" into VGA mode so that they take excellent VGA screenshots? Did you know Pocket Informant already has a built-in screen capture utility and the same developer has also released a free, stand-alone version excellent for taking periodic auto-screenshots? The list continues… Yes, you’ll find an explanation of all these in this article – and a lot more, never-before-published tips and tricks. This means that, as with all my similar roundups, this one will reveal a lot of secrets of the Pocket PC – read on!
Introduction: The basics
What's the point in writing so big an article on all these questions, you may ask. Isn't it as easy as just downloading an arbitrary screen grabber application off the Net, installing and starting it and just pressing its hotkey to take a shot (if it's a button based-application) or, if it has a timer, just quickly switch (before the timer is fired) to the application you'd like to take a shot of?
Yes, in many cases, it'll work, particularly if you "only" have a QVGA device, of which you'd only like to take screenshots in the default Portrait mode. As soon as, however, you will need to take shots of
full-screen games
VGA screens
Landscape screens
menus
screens that depend on the actual Internet (IP) address of the device
screens of the "HTC Camera" built-in camera client application (if any)
you will find that the screen gabber application you've chosen just doesn't work. It's particularly in these cases that you'll find this writeup useful.
Classification of screen grabber applications
First and foremost, there are two main kinds of screen capturer applications. The first group of them uses an active ActiveSync (or, in cases, any kind of TCP/IP (Internet) connection) and initiates screen grabbing from a desktop Windows PC; the second group only runs on the Pocket PC itself and doesn’t need any kind of desktop-based client. First, I elaborate on the first group.
1. PC & ActiveSync-based capture solutions
1.1 Introduction
You may already know at least SOTi Pocket Controller, the great PC-based application that makes it possible to control your Pocket PC hooked up to your PC (or being anywhere in the world if it has an Internet connection and your desktop is able to connect to it). SOTi Pocket Controller is one of the many applications that are not only controller apps but also themselves are able to take screenshots of the actual screen content of the connected Pocket PC device. In this article, I won’t discuss any of these programs (again, programs that not only allow for seeing the screen of your Pocket PC on your desktop computer, but also control it) because I’ve already done so. Please read this article for more information on how these applications can be used. Make sure you pay special attention to following the links to Part I of the series.
Seeing how I emphasized the word ‘control’, you may have already guessed there are desktop-based applications that don’t let for controlling the PDA (that is, you can’t use the PC’s keyboard and mouse to directly enter text / click objects on the virtual screen of the PDA), “only” passively show its screen. Or, more precisely, they don’t show it, “only” make a (savable) screenshot of it whenever you ask them to do so. This also means that, while “controller” applications (as they also need to show almost the same picture on the desktop as is on the PDA, with the least possible delay) may hugely slow down how the Pocket PC can be operated, desktop-based clients that only transfer the contents of the screen between the two devices can result in a much faster and more responsive Pocket PC. In this respect, solely screen capture apps (again, ones that can NOT be used to control the device) can be infinitely better: as they only transfer information between the PC and the Pocket PC when you do instruct them to take a screenshot, they don’t slow down the Pocket PC.
These applications (as with the “controller” type of applications; from now on, I’ll only talk about the ones that can’t control) all have the advantage of being able to capture (almost) anything. If you use a Pocket PC-only capture application, a lot of things may prevent you from taking screenshots on your device (for example, the given application’s blocking all hardware buttons or the inability to capture menus because they just close when you press the shortcut to make a screenshot). These problems are non-existent on applications that also have a desktop component. Then, you can, say, just open the menu or start the game you want to make shots of and just instruct the PC-side screenshot grabber to do the job when the screen / dialog you wanted to take a shot of is displayed.
Desktop-based screen capturer (or, again, controller) applications refuse to work in very-very few cases; for example,
when the given application (for example, Fathammer’s excellent 2700G-enabled 3D golf title, Toy Golf – it won’t start if the PDA is connected to the desktop PC via ActiveSync; the situation is the same with some other games that rely on the Intel 2700G GPU; for example, GeoRally EX) because it hates ActiveSync to be active. In this case, you can only make screenshots with Pocket PC-based tools. (In most cases, however, with a bit of playing with the time you connect the PPC to the desktop, you can still take screenshots through ActiveSync even with games like Toy Golf. For example, in order to take screenshots of Toy Golf from the desktop PC, start the game without the Pocket PC connected to the computer and only connect after the first “Loading” screen. Then, any server-side application will work – both specialized screen capturer apps and, as can be seen for example here, “full” Pocket PC controllers too. Note that, as far as this screenshot and the VGA 2700G-enabled devices – Dell Axim x50v / x51v – are concerned, if you use a plain screenshot tool, prefer the ViTO one (reviewed in this roundup) and start the game from native VGA mode so that the screenshots will be full-resolution ones. Forget GetPDAScreen, which, even as of version 1.1, is totally incompatible with VGA and will only take low-res screenshots.
when the additional network connection ActiveSync creates can cause problems. For example, if you take screenshots of an application or a game that displays or relies on for example a local network address, you can’t use an ActiveSync-based tool. The sole reason for this is that ActiveSync (as has also been pointed out by several of my ActiveSync & networking-related articles; for example, this) assigns another IP (Internet) address to the device. Then, the Pocket PC will have two addresses: one in the “real” network it’s supposed to talk to the outer world (in the following case, other PDA’s running the same game) and the other is that of ActiveSync. An example screenshot of this is here, where I took a screenshot of pocketadventures.com’s Travel Collection (also see The Definitive Multiplayer PPC Game Roundup). There, two IP’s are shown; one of them being assigned by ActiveSync, while the other being the “real” address of the device.
You will also need to keep this in mind when taking screenshots (or, for that matter, operating) local area network-based programs like the excellent 4Talk (review here) , or, when taking screenshots of for example the IP configuration screen of vxUtil, probably the best networking tool on the Pocket PC.
In most (all?) of the other cases, desktop-based screenshot taking will work just great.
1.2 Screen grabber / saver, desktop-based applications
There are, as far as user-friendly apps are concerned, two such applications (and one strictly for Pocket PC Phone Edition devices) right now (again, the rest also have controlling capabilities and, therefore, aren’t listen in here – check out the above roundup for a complete overview of them): GetPDAScreen and VITO ScreenCapture, both free and, unfortunately, both incompatible with the standard (SE) VGA mode of WM2003SE/WM5 VGA Pocket PC’s.
Note that Microsoft also has a (free - it comes with the free eVC 4.0) remote screen capturer application. It, however, is far from being user-friendly (particularly the connection initiation is a real pain in the back as it requires the user to always use different port addresses and, therefore, doesn't really allow for static .lnk files just to invoke \Windows\cemgrc.exe on the PDA) and offers really nothing additional compared to these applications. It supports landscape and native VGA as can be seen in here. it is, however, hopelessly QVGA in standard (SE) VGA and, therefore, not at all recommended.
If you really want to give it a try, you need to know the following: install eVC and execute c:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows CE Tools\Platman\bin\cezoom.exe. Go to Connection / Configure CE Platform Manager and, after highlighting "Default Device" under "Windows CE .NET Default Platform" (there may/will be other top-level roots), click Properties. Change the settings to TCP/IP... in the top and Manual Server in the bottom drop-down menu. Click OK two times and select Connection / Connect to Device, highlight the same device and click OK. Now, you'll be presented the two DLL's and the one EXE file you'll need to copy from the c:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows CE Tools\Platman\target\ subdirectory according to your CPU type to the \Windows subdirectory on your PDA. In the bottommost, non-editable textfield, you'll be presented the parameters (the IP address of your PC and the port the server will be listening on) you will need to pass to cemgrc.exe on your handheld. For example, in this example, you must supply the "/T:TCPIPC.DLL /Q /D:169.254.2.2:3359" parameters to cemgrc.exe; for example, via a link file with the following content:
99#"\WINDOWS\cemgrc.exe" /T:TCPIPC.DLL /Q /D:169.254.2.2:3359
Then, start the server on the PDA and immediately after this the client on the PC. Click OK and the connection will be built up. You can any time refresh the view by pressing F5 (or Connection / Refresh).
Note that the port number will change every time you reconnect the PDA to the desktop PC; this is one of the reasons I don't recommend this solution at all for simple screen grabbing purposes and haven’t even included in the comparison chart.
1.2.1 GetPDAScreen 1.1 by NewMad
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Its biggest problem is that it’s strictly QVGA (it doesn’t even take full-resolution shots in native VGA mode) and Portrait only. (The latter, fortunately, doesn’t mean it won’t be able to make screenshots of (most) games running in Landscape full screen – it will). It only takes QVGA shots of VGA devices, which is unacceptable in most cases. If you force \Windows\GetScreen.exe (the EXE component the desktop client, behind the scenes, deploys on the Pocket PC to grab the screen and send it over the ActiveSync connection) into VGA (with Tweaks2k2.NET or just copying the standard .mui file into \Windows), the result will only contain the upper left quarter of the screen as can also be seen in this screenshot.
Therefore, you will only want to use it on QVGA devices, preferably in Portrait only (or with landscape games).
1.2.2 VITO ScreenCapture 1.0
This application doesn’t support taking full-resolution screenshots of VGA devices in SE (standard) VGA either; only in the native VGA mode. It supports non-Portrait screen orientations. That is, it’s much more useful than GetPDAScreen. It is only able to export screenshots into BMP files; therefore, you will want to convert them further with, say, ImageMagick on the desktop or XnView on the Pocket PC (see the tips in the Full Roundup of Picture Viewers/Editors for the Pocket PC for more information & tips on conversion!) to the much more compact, say, PNG format.
1.2.3 Jeyo Mobile Companion 1.1
This application is a well-known, excellent Pocket PC Phone Edition SMS / contacts manager for the PC - highly recommended if you want to, say, backup your SMS messages or call history to your desktop PC or manage your phone contacts directly on the PC.
Unfortunately, it is only compatible with Pocket PC Phone Edition devices - that is, not with standard, phone-less Pocket PC's.
It, in addition to PIM handling, also has screen capturing capabilities, which is accessible via Tools / Capture Screen. It captures landscape screens without problems and is able to directly save images to both BMP and JPG files.
While, by default, it's not capable of capturing VGA screens in standard (SE) mode, forcing \Windows\CommMan.exe (the file auto-deployed by Jeyo to the PDA) into VGA does the trick. That is, this is the only desktop-based application that is able to correctly capture the VGA screen of, say, the VGA HTC Universal. That is, if you have a HTC Universal, you'll want to give it a try.
2 Strictly on-the-PDA screenshot applications
There are three types of them: some are part of picture viewer/editor applications (see the Full Roundup of Picture Viewers/Editors for the Pocket PC for more information on the latter) and the rest have been created solely for screen capturing capabilities (while, possibly, they also have image viewing capabilities to, for example, browse the screenshots already taken). Finally, there may be screenshot taker applications in strictly not imaging-related applications; for example, Pocket Informant.
They are all in common in that, as opposed to desktop-based screenshot and/or Pocket PC controller applications, they may prove useless to take screenshots in a number of situations. For example, if you want to take a shot of a game that runs in full screen mode (and, therefore, hides the taskbar where you could quickly switch to your picture maker app to take a screenshot), some of these apps (for example Resco - it can’t even be bound to a hardware button to take screenshots) become useless. In these cases, applications that have hardware button-based picture taking capabilities (most of them have except for the above-mentioned Resco application – or XnView) may be of help – unless the game disables all access to buttons (which, unfortunately, is the case with most games).
If the game does block all the access to hardware buttons and, thus, makes it impossible to invoke picture taker apps to take screenshots, you can only rely on Pocket PC-based screen grabber applications that have some kind of a (countdown) timer (making it possible to automatically, without human interaction, take a screenshot some (dozens of) seconds later) or multiple (“auto”) screenshot taking capabilities.
In this section, I first review all of the screen capturer applications that belong to the first category and, then, move on to self-standing screen capture applications.
2.1 Image viewers/ editors with additional screenshot taking capabilities
2.1.1 The built-in Screen Capture utility of Resco Picture Viewer 5.32
Resco Picture Viewer is, in my opinion, the best picture viewer application for the Pocket PC. It’s commercial and is bundled with some Dell Axim PPC's for free. After installing, it has a separate icon, “Screen Capture”, which makes it possible to take screenshots without invoking the main application (as opposed to how, say, XnView works):
As can also be seen, its configurability is really poor: you can’t configure anything except for a 10-second delay and saving automatically. This also means it can only be used for basic, non-involved screenshot making tasks – it can’t really be used to make screenshots of games. It, however, has something that very few other screen grabber applications have: it saves images in the best lossless (PNG) format, in addition to JPG and BMP.
2.1.2 XnView 1.35
XnView is a very nice, free (!) picture viewer / converter. The latest, 1.35 version, fortunately, fixed the Portrait-only bug of the previous, 1.31 version; now, you can make Landscape screenshots too. Unfortunately, as a screenshot application, it’s pretty poor (except for the really useful multiple output format capabilities) – all it offers is a settable 1/5/10/15s delay. No hardware buttons, no multiple shots, not invokable from external scripts. Nevertheless, if you don’t need the latter functionalities, you will want to give it a try.
2.1.3 Pocket Artist 3.2 by Conduits
Pocket Artist is a hugely popular Photoshop clone on the Pocket PC with (pretty weak) screenshot taking capabilities. All it offers is just a timer. The newly-introduced hardware button support, unfortunately, doesn’t let for assigning the screen capture functionality. It stores the result on the clipboard, which, then, must be manually pasted to a new file (via Menu/Image/ New, then, Menu/ Edit/ Paste and, then, Menu / Image / Save. Note that it’s only capable of saving images as Photoshop (.PSD) files). It, however, is compatible with every Pocket PC OS (even Handheld PC’s!), every video mode and is a great Photoshop replacement. As a “simple” screen capturer application (if you don’t need a mini-Photoshop on your PDA - that is, wouldn't use the other features), however, it’s not recommended.
2.1.4 CEPicture 2.7 by LimeLink
This very old picture viewer also has screenshot capabilities. It offers nothing particular (no timer, for example). It can take menu screenshots.
Note that if you change the screen orientation while it's active, it won't be able to take shots in the new orientation; that is, only change screen orientation while the app is not active. Then, it'll take Landscape screenshots too.
The same developer also has a free screen capture application, CECapture (see below). It, capturing-wise, is exactly the same as the screen capture module of CEPicture.
2.1.5 PictPocket Cinema 4.0
It’s WM5 / Landscape-compliant. It’s only able to use the Action button (it’s also able to capture menus using it); it has no timer capabilities. Not recommended because of the very high ($39.99) price and because most of its functionality it offers is implemented by either the free TCPMP and some much more superior & cheap image viewers.
2.1.6 Photogenics 1.0 Release 139
This is, as with Pocket Artist, another pretty pricey ($49.99) Photoshop-like application.
Note that Handango has release 133 while the latest release I know of is 139. I’ve tested the latter. Also note that while it’s said it’s not WM5-compliant, I haven’t really encountered problems when using it on my WM5 devices.
Unfortunately, unlike with Pocket Artist, it only takes QVGA images (and the GUI is also QVGA only) ; forcing \Program Files\Photogenics\ Photogenics.exe to VGA doesn’t work (it’ll display everything in the upper left corner); the same stands for using it in native VGA. That is, it’s not recommended if you have a VGA device.
As far as its capture capabilities are concerned, it has nothing to write home about: all it can boast with is just a simple wait timer.
2.1.7 PQV 3.0.10 by HanaHo Games
The screen capturer utility, “PQV Screen Capture”, as with “Screen Capture” in Resco Picture Viewer (and unlike all the other picture viewer/editor applications), is a separate entity from the main program. It’s, therefore, assignable to a hardware button and can be greatly used from external scripts when multiple, auto screenshots are needed.
Unfortunately, it only takes QVGA shots on VGA devices and forcing \Program Files\HanaHo\pqvscl.exe doesn’t help this. It doesn’t work in native VGA mode either. Furthermore, it isn’t able to take standard landscape shots (it’ll work with most full screen landscape games though).
Both the screen capture and the “main” application are WM5-compliant. However, never ever try to run the screen capturer application on a WM5 VGA device (it works OK on WM5 QVGA devices – apart from the inability to take non-Portrait shots). It will at least mess up the screen and, in cases, result in a lot of device.exe crash reports (tested on both the Axim x51v and the HP hx4700).
The main application, just like with WM2003SE, is buggy under WM5 (on QVGA devices too): it hides the drop-down tree lists in the file input dialog.
2.2 Self-standing, specialized screen capturer applications
These applications are primarily meant for screen capturing and are also advertised as (primarily) screenshot taker apps, as opposed to the applications in the previous, 2.1 section.
2.2.1 SnapIt 2.0 by Xoanan
This application doesn’t offer much as can also be seen in here:
Unfortunately, it also has compatibility problems: in SE (standard) VGA, it uses pixel halving (fortunately, by forcing it into VGA mode, it’ll work as supposed to). It can’t be used to make screenshots of menus either: it has no timer functionalities and, when invoked using a hardware button (configurable from inside the app), the menu disappears.
All in all, I don’t recommend it – there are much superior apps on the market for the same (Vidya) or even considerably less (BeniSoft ScreenShotCE) price.
2.2.2 Developer One Pocket ScreenSnap 6.10
This app is definitely better than the above-reviewed Xoanan SnapIt 2.0; for example, it entirely supports VGA and it allows for making shots of menus with hardware buttons or timers (it does support timers). It, however, isn’t as good as the (equally priced) Vidya or the (much cheaper) BeniSoft application – for example, it only supports BMP as the output format and doesn’t support taking continuous screenshots – unless you invoke it from an external script (see below), when it works just wonderfully.
2.2.3 BeniSoft ScreenShotCE 1.10
This application, in my opinion, is a very good one for the price if you don’t need to take screenshots of fast-paced games or menus (it only supports taking menu screenshots by the, for this, pretty awkward serial screenshot taker).
It even has a ZIP plug-in (which, unfortunately, needs separate registration, which doesn’t seem to be available for causal users), which makes it possible to compress the output screenshot files (which can be pretty important with huge BMP shots). It’s the only title that allows for record voice with shots (2). It, however, is different from how for example digital cameras offering additional- voice-recording- with-keeping -the-button- depressed work and is definitely inferior.
Unfortunately, it has no timers - however, the auto (serial) screenshot mode is usable in this case too.
It’s one of the applications to have (native) serial screenshot taking capabilities (not counting in the screen contents change-triggered Auto mode of SuperSnap). It, however, can’t really be used in fast-paced games. While PC-based apps will take correct screenshots of all fast-paced games as can be seen for example in these screenshots: 1 2 3 (of the 2700G tech demo PowerVR Racer - see section 2.1 here, in the Roundup of All 2700G-enabled Games and Demos), ScreenShotCE is definitely slower as can be seen for example in this and this screenshots. This problem is common in all other games; for example, here and here are screenshots of ToyGolf, also showing this problem. The situation is even worse in Fathammer’s Stuntcar Extreme as can be seen for example here – actually, I haven’t been able to take a single screenshot in that game without these kinds of problems.
Unfortunately, non-2700G-based games can also suffer from this problem; for example, here’s a screenshot of Acky’s Breakout with a doubled ball image (it’s a fast-moving object).
These won’t be an issue with any desktop-based screenshot taker or controller applications. Also, Vidya Pocket Screen Capture has considerably less problems with fast-paced games if you want to stick to taking screenshots strictly on your Pocket PC, without using any desktop-based client. Finally, I haven’t encountered so (many) problems with the other three, scriptable-for-auto-shot apps either (PQV, WebIS Screenshot and DeveloperOne). Therefore, if you want to make a lot of screenshots of fast games, check out the just-listed titles first.
2.2.4 Vidya Pocket Screen Capture 1.0.9
This application, in my opinion, is the best of all. It has very few shortcomings: for example, the lack of (single) timed screenshots (fortunately, the app offers great button-based menu capture capabilities) and the fact that, unlike with the Benisoft title, auto screenshot sounds can’t be disabled. Unless you delete \Windows\VidyaCameraClick.wav (this is highly recommended!), that is.
When it comes to making screenshots of fast games, it fares considerably better than the Benisoft title. Some examples: very few Stuntcar Extreme shots show (slight) artifacts (for example this). The same stands for the PowerVR demo: I’ve only found one screenshot (of some 10-15) to be (slightly) faulty. Finally, few of the ToyGolf screenshots were bad (1 2). I haven’t found any Acky screenshots to be faulty. This means definitely this is the app to go for if you want to take game screenshots without using a desktop-side application and you don’t want to mess with my scripts that make it possible to also use PQV and the DeveloperOne app to take continuous shots.
2.2.5 Kilmist SnapShot 1.0
Definitely not as powerful as Vidya Pocket Screen Capture or BeniSoft ScreenShotCE. For example, it offers neither timers nor auto-shots and it isn’t able to take high-resolution shots of VGA screens in standard (SE) VGA mode (only in native VGA) without explicitly forcing it into VGA mode. At least it has button-based menu capturing capabilities, unlike the BeniSoft title.
I wouldn’t get it – after all, it costs as much as the really superior Vidya Pocket Screen Capture.
2.2.6 Magic SS 1.1
This has been a famous, free application. Unfortunately, compared to the alternates, I'd say it’s not really worth getting – it offers nothing compared to even some of the free alternates (no timers, no menu capture capabilities – the assigned hardware button exits the menu – etc). On the positive side, it’s small and standard (SE) VGA compliant.
2.2.7 Epiphan Screen Grabber (CECapture 1.0)
This free application is in no way recommended – there are much better free (!) apps that are able to do much more. For example, it isn’t compatible with the standard (SE) VGA mode (unless forced) and doesn’t even have timer capabilities (both, for example, XnView and Resco have the latter). Actually, it is only able to make screenshots of the Today screen because it can only be invoked using its green E icon on the command bar there (see the above screenshot). You can’t make it grab a screen when you directly invoke it.(Also see the user opinions here).
2.2.8 iTask’s built-in (Delayed) Capture
All iPAQ models that have iTask on them (that is, all iPAQ’s starting with PPC2k2) have a built-in screen capturer application in iTask. It has nothing to write home about (BMP output only and non-configurable delay) but it’s still good to have around. Please read the previous article on configuring and using it - there is a full tutorial on this question in there, packed with screenshots.
2.2.9 CECapture 1.0 (5002) by LimeLink
(Note that I could only find a Chinese page; there doesn’t seem to be an English one.)
This free and very old screenshot application is produced by the same folks as CEPicture.
As with CEPicture, it’s able to save in both BMP / JPG. The similarities don’t end up here: it doesn’t dynamically get the list of the available buttons; it’s also capable of taking screenshots of menus with the assigned hardware button; it (\Program Files \Limelink\ CECapture.exe) must be forced into VGA in order to make standard (SE) VGA screenshots and isn’t able to capture non-Portrait screens.
2.2.10 Pocket Screen Capture v1.0 by CEToolbox
(Note that almost all references still refer to the old CEToolbox address. It no longer works.)
This free application, if you don't need any fancy, extra capabilities and only look for a simple, but usable application, can prove pretty good.
It's non-VGA compliant without explicitly forcing \Program Files \Pocket Screen Capture\ psc.exe into VGA. It's landscape-compliant and timer-based (5 sec only). The only output format it offers is BMP. It is not scriptable.
2.2.11 ScreenShooter 1.0 by KaonTech
(The original homepage is no longer accessible; hence the PocketGear link.)
It's a commercial (in trial mode it's useless because of the watermark it puts on all images - only the Vidya app is the other that watermarks the shots). It's landscape- and WM5-compliant. In SE (standard) VGA, you must force \Program Files\ScreenShooter\screenshooter.exe to make high-resolution screenshots. It can only be invoked via non-assignable (!) hardware keys. Screenshot taking is wired to Button 1. It is not scriptable and has no timers.
All in all, it's a really weak application at the price tag - many freeware applications offer the same (or even better) functionality. Not recommended.
2.2.12 Screenshot by WebIS
This very simple (no GUI, no timer capabilities, only BMP output, only stores its files in the main storage, in \My Documents etc.), WM2003+ utility (which takes a screenshot when it's executed - that is, its icon is tapped or the button, which it's assigned to in Settings / Button, is pressed) is highly recommended for scripted (auto / periodic) screenshot taking). It's VGA and Landscape-compliant and pretty fast when it comes to taking game screenshots.
Note that the WebIs Beta server used to host a standalone, older version of this screenshot maker application (see Alex’ last post here and here) but it’s no longer available. The new version, however, is accessible.
2.2.13 SuperSnap by PocketDevelop.com
(Note that while the developer does have a homepage, it's empty. This is why I've provided a PocketGear URL.)
This is a pretty good, WM2003+, WM5- and VGA-compliant, albeit a bit expensive ($14.90) product. It has a unique feature: in the Auto mode, it takes screenshots whenever the screen content changes (that is, it won't take shots in auto mode when there is no change in the screen contents). It works wonderfully in games too.
2.3 Screenshot takers in non-imaging applications / utilities
2.3.1 Pocket Informant by Web Information Solutions, Inc.
Pocket Informant (which comes with the HP iPAQ hx4700 and, given the popularity of the application, is also installed on many thousands of Pocket PC’s) also contains a (pretty rudimentary: all it offers is a 5-second timer and isn’t invokable using a hardware button or from an external program) screenshot taker application.
To use it, go to Menu / Tools & Settings / Utilities and select Screenshot… at the bottom.
Note that the developer has also released a standalone screen grabber available here, which is highly recommended particularly for scripted (auto / periodic) screenshot taking. See section 2.2.12 for more information.
3. Hacks – how can you run screenshot taking periodically?
In addition to Vidya Pocket Screen Capture and BeniSoft ScreenShotCE, there is still a way to make a strictly Pocket PC-based screen capture application take screenshots periodically: by invoking it from an external program – a script in this case.
For this, I recommend nScriptm, on which I’ve already elaborated a lot (please see for example this article and the scripting programming-related articles linked from there).
There are three applications that can be directly invoked (by just executing the program to take a screenshot, which can also be easily checked if you configure your Pocket PC to invoke the application straight from the Settings/Button applet or just click its icon in Start/Programs) and, therefore, be periodically run: PQV (for Portrait-only or game screenshot taking, strictly on QVGA devices), WebIS Inc. Screenshot and Developer One Pocket ScreenSnap (for screenshot taking on any kind of device and screen orientation). (Please see the comparison chart for the explanation why other apps can NOT be executed from an external application – I’ve elaborated on them all.)
To configure your system to execute these three applications, you’ll need to get nScriptm from here; unzip ARMPPC\ns.exe to the newly-created \Program Files\ns directory on your PDA (that is, create a directory named ‘ns’ under ‘\Program Files’ in the main storage). Now, get this file and copy PeriodicallyInvokeScreenCapturer.ns from \DevOne , \WebIS or \PQV (depending on which screenshot app you’d like to periodically invoke) in the same directory (\Program Files\ns) on your PDA. Finally, transfer PeriodicallyInvokeScreenCapturer.lnk (also in the same RAR file) to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs so that the auto invocation can be easily started from Start / Programs.
Note that you may want to modify the two .ns files if you want to in/decrease the frequency of taking screenshots (it’s now (at least – don’t forget that if the CPU / the file system is overloaded, it may take much more time to save a screenshot) six seconds). Also, you’ll want to modify the paths to the picture taker executables if they aren’t in the main storage (RAM in pre-WM5 devices). Please note that I couldn’t use loop constructs here (for some reason, nScriptm just didn’t like either while() or for() loops so don’t come to tell me “hey, you don’t even know what looping is about?!” ).
After all these files have been deployed, just click the PeriodicallyInvokeScreenCapturer icon in Start / Programs (with Developer One Pocket ScreenSnap, manually starting the app first, making sure the post-shot taking dialog is suppressed and going into the Hide mode – see the comments and screenshots in the comparison chart on all this) and then, just click it for the screenshots to be taken. Note that you’ll need to explicitly stop the .ns file from any task manager (Settings/System/ Memory/Running Programs by default) if you don’t need it any more and it still hasn’t finished.
4. The comparison / feature chart
It’s available here (sorry, it’s too wide to be included in here).
4.1 Explanation for the chart
Where does it run?: if it’s “PPC”, then, it only needs the Pocket PC. If it’s "PC + PPC", then, it also requires a computer running a desktop Windows and connected to the PDA via ActiveSync.
Pic formats: a list of the save format. Most apps only know BMP (the least storage-friendly format – but, at least, as opposed to JPEG/JPG, the format that is also supported by some screenshot apps, it isn’t lossy). Unfortunately, PNG (probably the best image format for taking screenshots) is only supported by few applications.
It stores the captured images in the file system: This is also pretty important. About half of the screen grabber applications put the files into the main storage (RAM in pre-WM5 operating systems) in, in most cases, the \My Documents, \Temp or simply the root (\) directory. This, especially when done on a VGA device and/or using BMP files and/or using auto (periodic) shooting and/or you use a WM5 device very sensitive to mass-writing operations (like the WM5-upgraded Dell Axim x50 or the HP iPAQ hx4700; see this for more info), can really quickly fill up the (storage) memory and/or result in lengthy filesys.exe cleanups. Therefore, it's very important for the screen grabber application to be able to store the screenshot files on a storage card. In this test, I've scrutinized each application in this respect. Ones with the ability to store the files "anywhere" are generally preferable.
OS compatibility with real device tests group: here, I’ve elaborated on the Pocket PC / Windows Mobile version compatibility of the tested applications. Of these, I’ve tested all, except for the oldest PPC2k (Pocket PC 2000). (Incidentally, compatibility with the 12-bit iPAQ 36xx also means that all these apps are able to capture screen contents of both 12 and 16 bits. This may also mean they are also compatible with 18-bit screens as, as far as I know, the underlying data is still 16-bit, just like with the case of 12-bit screens like that of the 36xx/37xx iPAQ series.)
VGA compatibility with real device tests group: does the given application support VGA screens – that is, does it make full, high-resolution screenshots of them?
The majority of them support SE (standard) VGA (the VGA mode that is by default active on VGA devices, unless you explicitly switch it to the so-called ‘native’ VGA mode; please see my older, VGA-related articles for example in my blog on these questions); many of them that don’t can be “forced” to do so. There are only four applications that can’t take high-resolution screenshots in SE (standard) VGA mode.
Native VGA WM2003SE/ WM5: the non-default, “magnifier is needed!” screen mode of VGA devices. Three applications are hopelessly incompatible with it.
Non-portrait orientation support group: are the given applications compatible with non-portrait (that is, right- and left-hand landscape) modes. Very few applications aren’t.
Pocket PC-based group: questions that only pertain to Pocket PC-based (that is, not ActiveSync-based) screenshot applications (again, you can take a screenshot through ActiveSync any time – this is why it’s not important whether, say, a desktop screen grabber has periodic screenshot taking capabilities). Of them, the following are the most important:
Auto shots: does the given application have built-in (!) support for taking screenshots periodically? Only two of them do (Vidya, BeniSoft ScreenShotCE).
Direct programmatic invocation to make screenshots in auto mode?: if they don’t have built-in support for periodic (auto) shots, are they “hackable” to do so? Three of them are; I’ve also described in the chart how this must be done.
Gaming group: is it a right program for making screenshots of games? In the 2700G tests, I’ve also listed some of my remarks on how it behaved (in Auto (periodical) mode) during my tests.
Menu/button group:
One-time timer: is it possible to set a timer in the program to make a shot x seconds later (making it possible to, say, take a screenshot of a menu or even a game that otherwise blocks all access to button-based screenshot making). With many applications, it’s possible; unfortunately, the best application, Vidya, doesn’t support this.
Hardware key (PPC-only apps)?: is it possible to make screenshots with a hardware button press? If yes, does the application offer all the available buttons to be used (le’ts not forget some high-end Pocket PC’s like the Pocket Loox 720 have some six buttons and all of them can also be used in hold mode, doubling the number of accessible functions), or just the standard four or five? Unfortunately, very few applications let for assigning the screenshot shortcut to all the available buttons. (Also see my old, button-related articles on how the actual number, the currently assigned programs and icons of the available buttons can be get programmatically – developers, hear me? It’s time to read all my past articles to find out how this all must be done!)
Able to capture menus? (Via HW button or timer): many times, you’ll need to take screenshots of opened menus. This can prove pretty tricky as menus are known to be closed when another program is started or a button is pressed. In this test, I’ve examined if it’s at all possible with the given app to make menu screenshots and if it is, how it can be done. That is, does pressing the assigned screenshot button close the menu and if there are no button assignment capabilities, are there at least timing (delaying) capabilities.
PC-based group: here, I’ve listed whether the PC-based client is able to take not only screenshots but also a video (as with, say, SOTi Pocket Controller or dotPocket) of the PDA screen. (Neither of the two PC + PPC apps are able to do this). Also, the Manual orientation change to take pics of for example Thunderhawk & games? Correct orientation? and the Remote (not just ActiveSync), IP-based connection? EDGE-based test if exists tests may be well-known from my old Remote Controller Roundup(s).
5. Taking screenshots of the built-in HTC Camera application?
A widely asked question (see for example the below-linked XDA-Dev thread on some practical uses) is taking screenshots of the standard HTC Camera application that comes with all HTC models (and some other HTC-manufactured Pocket PC's like the Pocket Loox 720) without the camera content being totally left out as can be seen in the following screenshot (taken with CEZoom in standard SE VGA mode; hence the pixel-halving):
Unfortunately, to my knowledge, it is not possible to do this (except for using CoolCamera, but, then, you won't see the standard HTC Camera GUI in the screenshot - see below). None of the tools I've tested was able to do this in not any mode. I've tried all the reviewed stand-alone, Pocket PC-based screen grabber tools, all the three reviewed screenshot-only PC-based applications (GetPDAScreen shot here; ViTO here, CEZoom shot above) and all the "real" remote controller apps (some example screenshots: SOTI Pocket Controller, VH Capture not even in capture mode, VNC Server etc.)
Note that according to XDA-Dev forum member levenum, (some of?) these tools work on HP's Pocket PC Phone Edition devices like the hw6915 with the HTC Camera app.
Also note that, right now, there is an alternate camera applications of HTC Camera: ATEKsoft's CoolCamera (reviewed here). You can freely take screenshots of it on both the PDA (see the screenshots in the review) and the desktop. Then, however, you won't see the standard camera controls of the HTC Camera application (as CoolCamera has nothing to do with the HTC Camera application). All PC and PPC-based tools were able to capture the screen of CoolCamera, as opposed to that of HTC Camera.
As far as the infamous CECam is concerned, it doesn't support built-in cameras - that is, it doesn't support any of the new(er) HTC models.
6. Verdict
It all depends whether you need fast gaming and/or automatic screenshots. If you want to take game screenshots (topped with easy menu screenshot taking), go for either Vidya Pocket Screen Capture or SuperSnap. Unfortunately, both are pretty pricey. If you don’t need to take game / (easy) menu screenshots but would certainly welcome auto shots, check out the much cheaper BeniSoft ScreenShotCE. If you aren’t afraid of a bit of manual work and script deploying, definitely need auto screenshot capabilities and, say, already have PQV or Developer One Pocket ScreenSnap, you can safely use these two applications too. (Note, again, that PQV is unable to work on VGA devices and will not save operating system-level Landscape screens, only Landscape games). Alternatively, you may want to give a try to the free WebIS Screenshot - it's VGA-compliant and works just great in (scripted) auto screenshot mode.
Finally, if you need no periodic shooting capabilities (because, for example, a timer-based single shot will do the trick), check out the comparison chart: there will be a lot of applications to choose from. Make sure you base your choice on the most important things you need (for example, operating system version / VGA / Landscape compatibility; the ability to store screenshots right on a storage card; support for timers and/or buttons etc.). You'll find all the information you need in the comparison chart to base your decision on.
UPDATE (09/05/2006 9:22AM CET): PPCT frontpage
UPDATE (09/13/2006):
justanothermobilemonday frontpage
UPDATE (09/17/2006): AximSite frontpage; Allen Gall's thoughts on screen capturing. In the meantime, I've also published a full article How do I take screenshots of great multimedia player TCPMP (or, any other decent video player) playing videos.
UPDATE (09/20/2006): Added Jeyo Mobile Companion 1.1.
UPDATE (09/23/2006): Added SuperSnap 1.0
One thing you don't seem to say is if each program works properly with 18 bit screens. Another good thing to know is if any can get a screen capture of the built in camera when in preview mode.
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
One thing you don't seem to say is if each program works properly with 18 bit screens. Another good thing to know is if any can get a screen capture of the built in camera when in preview mode.
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You have a point there - upon the next article upgrade (dunno when though), I'll also include this info.
I find that the "powertoy" called ActiveSync Remote Display downloadable free from Micro$oft does the job ver nicely. Displays on the Windows desktop, allows you to use the mouse and keyboard too. 8)
It does not do landscape and I've no idea whether or not it handles VGA though. :?:
TheBrit said:
I find that the "powertoy" called ActiveSync Remote Display downloadable free from Micro$oft does the job ver nicely. Displays on the Windows desktop, allows you to use the mouse and keyboard too. 8)
It does not do landscape and I've no idea whether or not it handles VGA though. :?:
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It does landscape (after a manual reconnection - it can't dynamically change):
It also supports VGA if you explicitly force /Windows/cerdisp2.exe .
(I've elaborated on all this here.)
Updated the roundup with PSC-related info.
Another update (sorry guys and gals): a new introductory section, the addition of ScreenShooter 1.0 by KaonTech and a completely new, very important row (“It stores the captured images in the file system”) in the comparison chart.
Yeah, another update: Alex from WebIs Inc. wrote in ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1201&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) to announce the availability of their stand-alone, free Screenshot application. It’s, fortunately, scriptable and delivers very good results in taking periodic game screenshots.
You seem to have left out one very basic, but free tool which a lot of people on this forum probably already have, and it can handle VGA, any orientation, almost any device (including pure CE devices) and the camera preview.
MS's own remote zoom-in utility which comes with eVC or VS2005.
levenum said:
You seem to have left out one very basic, but free tool which a lot of people on this forum probably already have, and it can handle VGA, any orientation, almost any device (including pure CE devices) and the camera preview.
MS's own remote zoom-in utility which comes with eVC or VS2005.
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You mean CeZoomIn.exe? Yup, you're right - I'll include it in the next iteration.
Windows Ce Remote ZoomIn can't actually see the camera preview (I mean the moving image seen while trying to obtain the shot). On my XDAIImini all I see is the brown mask colour and the icons. The image that I can see on the device is not seen on the monitor. Any way to grab this data would be very usefull. I have a use for close to real time screen data from the camera but cant get it. I can set the device up to take a shot at close intervals, then read the screen when it shows the result but that is not fast enough and the timing can be affected by other things going on in the device.
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
Windows Ce Remote ZoomIn can't actually see the camera preview (I mean the moving image seen while trying to obtain the shot). On my XDAIImini all I see is the brown mask colour and the icons.
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Here too (tested on a Pocket Loox 720). Besides, it's QVGA only in SE (standard) VGA - it's only in native VGA that it delivers hi-res VGA shots. (Yes, I've tried "hacking" all the EXE's and DLL's into VGA.)
Neither can the two other grab-only clients; also tested Soti Pocket Controller in this respect. (No-go either)
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Neither can the two other grab-only clients; also tested Soti Pocket Controller in this respect. (No-go either)
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I've tested stand-alone, PPC-only clients on the Pocket PC too (this time on a HTC Universal); none of them was able to take a screnshot of the camera.
Hmm, I tried it on HP 6915 and it go the preview. I guess, HP camera app works differently than the XDA one.
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Hmm, I tried it on HP 6915 and it go the preview. I guess, HP camera app works differently than the XDA one.
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BTW, have you managed to get Hi-Res (VGA, not crappy QVGA) images in SE (standard) VGA mode with CEZoom?
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
The image that I can see on the device is not seen on the monitor. Any way to grab this data would be very usefull. I have a use for close to real time screen data from the camera but cant get it.
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Use CoolCamera - please read the latest version of the article on this.
Added a lengthy section on how you can take shots of the built-in HTC Camera application (if it exists). I’ve also elaborated a lot on CEZoom, Microsoft’s own desktop-based, free screen grabber tool.
Thanks, thats one program I would actually pay for. I just wish I knew how to access the memory the camera was using myself. Still, at the end of the day $14 is not that much.
How do I take screenshots of great multimedia player TCPMP (or, any other decent video player) playing videos on my Dell Axim x50v/x51v?
Now, after publishing my roundup of capturing the screen of Pocket PC’s where I’ve also elaborated on the chances of capturing the screen of HTC Camera, I’ve received a question regarding doing the same with the great multimedia / video player TCPMP on Dell Axim x50v/x51v devices.
On these devices, by default, TCPMP playing videos can not be captured – the active video area shows the same symptoms as that of HTC Camera (that is, nothing can be seen on the capture, let it be captured on the PDA itself or through a Pocket PC controller application). An example screenshot of this situation is here.
Fortunately, as opposed to HTC Camera, there is a very simple solution to this problem: go to Options/Video and select anything but the default Intel 2700G Decoder (and Intel 2700G); that is, DirectDraw, Raw Framebuffer and GDI will all work. (Of course, after you've made the screenshots, switch back for optimal performance if you watch a lot of videos on your device.)
After this setting, the video playback can be captured as can be seen in here.
What about other devices?
All of them can be captured in all modes. A breakdown and a lot of examples (packed with screenshots so that you can see they do work) follows, separating Pocket PC’s on the ground of the default (most optimal) play mode TCPMP defaults to on them:
Intel XScale: for example, the Pocket Loox 720
ATI ImageOn (GPU): for example, the HP iPAQ hx4700 (here with WM5)
Direct (screen access): for example, the Compaq iPAQ 36xx/37xx series
DirectDraw: for example, the HTC Universal
Raw Framebuffer: for example, the HTC Wizard
GAPI: for example, the HP iPAQ 2210 and the Pocket PC 2000 Casio Cassiopeia E-125.
Article slightly updated.

Change TV Out resolution

Change PPC TV Out resolution (htc touch pro in this case)
HI all ,
i jsut installed NYDITOT Virtual Display .. which worked perfect on my old x51v
.. but it seems it doesnt recognice the external display.
they write
External Display Support
Today's Pocket PC devices have more than enough speed, memory, connectivity and feature rich applications to serve as the principal computing device for many, if not most, computer users. The only true limitation is the ergonomics of data entry and visualization. Productivity is greatly limited by hunt and peck typing with a stylus and the tedium of scrolling large documents or spreadsheets on a tiny screen. In addition, true mobility is limited by the constant need to sync data and move documents between your Pocket PC, laptop, work and home computers. A preferred scenario would be to keep all your data in one place; in a truly mobile device that could transform itself to meet your varying ergonomic needs. NVD on a Pocket PC can do just that by supporting external video display adapters and input devices from a number of manufactures.
To date, external display adapters for Pocket PC's have been used primarily with applications like Pocket PowerPoint for presentations. The shadowing programs that come with these devices merely recreate the tiny desktop in the center of the large external display. This tiny, low resolution output coupled with the lack of a mouse pointer makes the external display is of little practical use. With NVD, the highest resolution supported by the adapter can be realized (up to 1024x768 on some adapters). NVD also adds a mouse pointer which responds to both stylus and external mouse movements. When used with a keyboard (wired or wireless), this results in resolutions and ergonomics comparable to a desktop. NVD sends video updates to the external display as they occur resulting in vastly improved performance when compared to the shadowing programs which continually refresh the entire display on an intermittent cycle.
Following is a list of the external video display adapters which are currently supported by NVD. Links have been provided to the product pages on the manufacturers' web sites. If any of these links are broken, please visit the manufacturer's home page to locate the product of interest.
Colorgraphic Voyager VGA CompactFlash
LifeView FlyPresenter CompactFlash
Margi Presenter-to-Go CompactFlash
Toshiba e740 Expansion Pack
Toshiba e800 Expansion Pack
so my question is ... is there a similary program out u can use for the htc touch pro ? since i would like to have higher resolutions thatn 640x480 at the tv out
thx for advice

Review, benchmark & comparison: remote controller / presentation suite REDFLY Mobile

Review, benchmark & comparison: remote controller / presentation suite REDFLY Mobile
It was just a few days ago that Celio Corp, manufacturer of the two (C8N and C7) REDFLY Mobile Companions, have released their own REDFLY Mobile Viewer application, which runs on traditional PC’s (as opposed to the netbook-alike Mobile Companions). (There is a comparison of these three products HERE.)
It, at the first glance, is pretty similar to the well-established phone controller applications already available on Windows Mobile: SOTI’s Pocket Controller, MyMobiler, VirtualCE and so on. (See my last roundup of them HERE) However, there’s a major difference between it and any other, previous phone controller solutions: it’s able to show the contents of the phone’s screen in resolutions up to SVGA (800*600) or XGA (1024*768) on phones with less and equal/more than 128 Mbytes of built-in RAM, respectively.
This means if you have a QVGA (320*240) phone, you can still enjoy using (most of) its applications (and even some games) in either SVGA or XGA resolution, depending on whether it has 64 Mbytes of RAM built-in, or more. On top of this, it has excellent screen redraw efficiency and very low CPU utilization – the latter is very hard to measure even on slower models.
This, basically, offers the same possibilities as either a built-in, digital VGA output (like that of the Dell Axim x50v/x51v or the i-mate 6150/8150). Note that these shouldn’t be mistaken for analogue TV output found in, for example, the i-mate 8502/9502 – the latter has far worse quality and, for “real” presentations (unless it’s a showing lower-res videos only), pretty much useless resolution. Several Symbian S60 phones like the Nokia N95, N82 etc. also have analogue TV output only. (See THIS for more info on these questions.) Also note that the VGA output speed will still be much lower than that of phones or PDA’s with built-in video output circuitry: they, in general, are capable to provide 100% speed when driving an external monitor (even the Dell Axim x50v/x51v, at XGA resolution, with disabled internal screen). An external, software-based solution will have much lower speeds – that is, you won’t for example want to demo the video playback or fast-paced action gaming capabilities of your phone using REDFLY Mobile Viewer. Nevertheless, REDFLY Mobile Viewer is still one of the fastest screen displayer applications – in some tests, it has turned out to be even faster than SOTI’s Pocket Controller, the so far, best application in this respect.
Installation
Get both the desktop EXE (REDFLYMobileViewer.exe) and the CAB file from http://www.celiocorp.com/viewer. These must be separately downloaded and require receiving two e-mails with the download links. Note that this is a 60-day trial version.
There are four different client CAB’s available: RFS5*.CAB, RFS6*.CAB, RFP5*.CAB or RFP6*.CAB. It’s pretty easy to find out which is which. After the leading “RF”, the next letter (either S or P) shows whether it’s a phone / PDA is a touchscreen-enabled, professional (P) or a touchscreen-less, standard (S) phone. Similarly, the next digit, 5 or 6, refers to the Windows Mobile version (5 or 6; note that earlier versions aren’t supported).
After downloading the files, install REDFLYMobileViewer.exe on your desktop and transfer the (right) CAB file to your phone / PDA. Install it on the latter by tapping it; let it restart your phone so that the Redfly client service can start listening. (Note that I would certainly have welcome a solution employed by most other remote controllers: upon noticing the client phone doesn’t have a deployed CAB, they could do it automatically. Hope this is fixed in the future.)
After rebooting the phone (PDA) and reconnecting USB so that activeSync / WDMC is started, you can already click the “Connect” button in the desktop controller.
Opinions, comparisons
Indeed the extended resolution works great. I’ve tested it with the following apps:
- Internet Explorer Mobile (on the iPAQ 210, HTC Wizard and HTC s710)
- Opera Mini 4.2 and some games running under Jbed
- Built-in system applications, setting utilities etc.
- Office Mobile applications
All of these applications (and the dynamic resizing-capable games) did sense the non-standard (non-QVGA/VGA) screen resolutions and resized themselves without any problem.
Second, the speed. If you’ve read my previous phone / PDA controller articles, you know it well enough the more data you’re transferring over USB from the comparatively low-powered, slow processor of the phone, the slower the presentation will be; that is, the frame rate will drop.
While certainly not without problems (slowdown being the most important), REDFLY Mobile Viewer certainly excelled in this area too – it delivered a consistently good framerate at even the highest resolutions. In this regard, only the fastest SOTI’s Pocket Controller can be compared to it.
There are some problems with it, though. Should you want to use this suite as a generic PDA / phone controller suite, you’ll find some of the missing functionalities (for example, clipboard synchronization or, at least, emulating pasting text to the PDA / phone via the keyboard) and incompatibility issues (you simply can’t run some games and apps – most importantly, ones that can only work in Portrait mode) pretty restricting. That is, if you’re looking for a traditional PDA / phone controller and you are absolutely sure you won’t make advantage of the resolution enhancement capabilities of the app, just look elsewhere: even SOTI’s Pocket Controller is cheaper – and is much more featureful (except for, of course, the resolution enhancement).
Screenshots
Let me present you some shots of the app controlling several of my phones / PDA’s. Note that the shots are all pretty huge; this is why I’ve only put in low-resolution, low-quality thumbnails in my article. Just click them to see the original, high-quality, large images
Opera Mini running on my HP iPAQ 210 in XGA resolution
On devices with 128+ MByte RAM (like the HP iPAQ 210), you can select resolutions larger than SVGA (800*600)
On devices with less RAM (say, 64 Mbyte), you can only use either WVGA or SVGA (the other two menu items are grayed out):
(taken on a HTC Wizard)
(taken on a HTC s710 touchscreen-less smartphone)
Just like on my WM6.1-based WM Professional Pocket PC phone, the HTC Universal, it didn’t work on my WM5 176*220 HTC s310 (Oxygen) (screenshot here) so I couldn’t test how it fares.
Benchmarks
As far as CPU usage is concerned, while not connected, it’s sufficiently low: 0.2…0.4% (REDFLY.exe) on the 200 MHz Wizard (and even less on faster devices). While actively controlling the phone, it still remains almost unmeasurable – WAY better than most other, comparable solutions.
As far as screen redraw speeds are concerned (see THIS for more info on all this),
- on the QVGA, 200 MHz Wizard, the number drawing benchmark has shown every second frame (and lasted 10s). Video HERE
- on the VGA 624 MHz HP iPAQ 210, the number drawing benchmark has shown every 1.5 frame (but lasted 19s – that is, there has been some lagging). Video HERE.
Note that Nanobotz, the other “standard” program I use to evaluate screen redraw efficiency, didn’t start with Redfly being active. When starting the Redfly client with the already-running game, nothing could be seen on the desktop either – it was all black. Nevertheless, Speed Racer delivered VERY good results – approximately 1 fps on a 200 MHz (!!!) HTC s710 / Vox Smartphone (video HERE).
In a nutshell, compared to other PDA / phone controller solutions
Pros:
- Revolutionary resolution extension on both all devices
- very low CPU usage
- support for special buttons not necessarily present on all models: the two softkeys, OK and the red/green phone buttons (not present on WM Classic models)
- decent screen refresh speed
- no keyboard input problems on WM Standard (no-touchscreen) devices
- no compatibility problems with Windows 7 (tested under build 7000)
Cons:
- No built-in screenshot capabilities
- No clipboard synchronization or paste emulation via keyboard
- No goodies like file synching / registry editor
- Can’t operate in Portrait mode: if you switch to it manually on the PDA, it won’t obey
- Limited compatibility with some? most? games (Portrait only?) – iGo doesn’t work either. Airfadude, in the other hand, works:
so do Java games under Jbed. For example, Speed Racer running in 800*480:
(video, taken in the 800*480 mode on the slow [200 MHz] HTC s710 HERE)
- If you don’t want to take advantage of the screen resolution, very expensive ($39.99) – even more than SOTI’s Pocket Controller
- resolutions over SVGA only available on models with 128+ MB of RAM (note that it will work with far less actual free RAM)
- It seems to be incompatible with some models (like the above-mentioned HTC Universal and s310)

Dream Phone Literally " Wishlist "

I was wondering what would be a DREAM Phone could be like which can be reality with todays tech or 2 yrs from now.
Keeping HTC HD2 Specs as standard, what the other features you would like to see in future Phone of HTC's.
To keep it easy i have some ideas (may be stolen )
Suggest yours (Be realistic - dont suggest a 10X optical zoom cam or a mini drilling machine.)
Video Out analog + digital
USB Host
FM Transmitter
Thermometer + Humudity ctrl would be a plus
Dual Sim in world phone mode
Battery larger than 1500 Mhz
Solar Charger
HD Videos Player
3D Graphics Engine with HW acceleration
Four Hardware buttons near edges for Playing Games
I don't mean to be rude, but your list doesn't get close to the sort of things that I would like to see in ideal a device. In no particular order:
Picture Camera; 3-5mp No more than 5 as too many pixels for a small sensor would render the pictures too noisy. Decent optics and a proper flash (not LED) with manual as well as auto. Digital only zoom would be fine, with the option to specify size/resolution. Able to record HD video with zoom (without assisted lighting).
Front Camera; for voice calls, but more importantly available as a webcam for voip and messaging applications. 640x480 and capable of 25fps. Able to record.
GPS; assisted GPS with voice turn by turn navigation software, downloadable maps of all available territories, capable of walking and cycling modes as well as driving.
Compass; to assist the above standalone as a walking tool and also integrated with the GPS for streetview.
FM radio; not requiring headset as aerial so it can be played through the device speaker(s) or a bluetooth headset. FM transmitter.
Video; able to play HD video and support for accelerated flash videos.
Connectors; HD Video out, stereo out via standard 3.5" jack. USB connector for charging and supporting USB host.
IR; transmitter receiver with programmable (both the IR codes and the button appearance and grouping) multi-device remote control application. Good range transmitter.
Screen; Large resolution (capable of widescreen HD) AMOLED capacitive touch screen with a small capacitive compatible stylus built in to the phone.
Phone; Voice and video phone with integrated Voip. Dual Sim where both can be active (with separate controls for ring, vibrate, and silent) or individually disabled and password protected.
Sound; stereo with decent bass and volume. Full media player including video, audio, and lossless formats.
Networking; GSM and 3G with top current specs and multi-band (ideally able to support voice and data in Europe, Japan, and the USA - although this is a point that can be compromised on given its impracticality). Wireless-n compatible wifi. Tethering (and ethernet) via bluetooth and USB port.
Memory; large program memory (1GB?), large ROM for OS and built-in apps, large storage (16Gb) microSD slot (HCSD high speed).
Processor; 1.5Gb Snapdragon.
Barrery; large capacity >12hrs talk time >240hrs standby >6hrs video playback
OS: Linux kernel with root access android.
Form factor; Like the Touch HD.
Now although close, this is unachievable at present (combining form factor and battery life for example). I strongly doubt anything like it will exist any time soon (despite the wishlist not being that outrageous on an individual item by item basis). It would be ideal, though.
My old SPV e100 had a thermometer!
Id like TV out. I plug the laptop into the tv, but then I cant browse the net! Nightmare!
I don't mean to be rude, but your list doesn't get close to the sort of things that I would like to see in ideal a device. In no particular order:
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No Problem Mate : Even i was thinking the same after posting.
However i agree with your ideal device exept i just want it to be running Win Os as i use a pc a lot so hacking / modifing is lot easier.
now coming to the post...
USB host with video out (digital) can completely elminate netbook / notebooks as we can connect a full desktop keybaord adn monitor ...few ppl at my work place hav asked for such technology...
My wishlist for a dream device
2Ghz processor
1Gb RAM
HTC Universal unbeatable form factor
4" VGA pivoting screen
Slim and nice design
A hardware keyboard
5Mpx camera
Front VGA camera
quadband
3G capable in México
Included all the great business features in Rhodium, like conference call
Maybe 2012.........
I want a usb port so i can plug in flash drives and extra hard ware. i also want at least dual micro sd card slots.
and i want it to look similar to the universal but with a screen that nearly takes up the whole lid plus more hard ware buttons.
Based on nexus one hardware (OLED 480*800, good memory, processor), i.e. best features of HD2 and Omnia 2
More hardware buttons (possibly detachable)
3.5mm audio line-in
Compass (good idea trendend)
Dual microsd slots (giving 2*32Gb storage)
USB host (unlikely!)
Software:
Nice new Windows Mobile without the niggles
An audio application 1/10 as good as rockbox
A working version of skype
A proper Onenote mobile, syncing to the cloud
Gaming platform (not that I'd use it, but it would help WM to progress)
Some things I don't see the need for:
FM radio: obsolete with internet?
Video out: I guess this is for showing off to friends, but are you likely to have the right cable to hand?
Thermometer/humidity: does this integrate with anything else the phone does? Otherwise just get an analog one and glue it to your phone!
CSMR said:
Some things I don't see the need for:
FM radio: obsolete with internet?
Video out: I guess this is for showing off to friends, but are you likely to have the right cable to hand?
Thermometer/humidity: does this integrate with anything else the phone does? Otherwise just get an analog one and glue it to your phone!
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FM Radio is ubiquitous and of high quality. Still the best option for local news and sport as well as traffic reports. I like FM radio and don't want to carry a separate device. Video out becomes more useful when the device can record video. Shoot video, edit it, show it on a big screen. I'd rather carry a cable than another dedicated device and a cable.
As for temperature/humidity. I'm not particularly interested in it built into the device, because calibration could be a nightmare (given the device itself generates heat). I could be interested in remote devices (that connect via the USB host, perhaps?) with the likes of themocouples, pressure sensors, heart rate monitors, pulse oximeters. That could be useful with the right software....
I'm talking about my dream device. I do not require you to subscribe to my dreams. In return I'll stay out of yours.
Not perfect, but I'd probably settle for Something like this. Except with android.

Desktop mode extended screen?

I don't know about you, but I think the missing piece of the puzzle is the ability to do extended screen onto something else, I'm aware that there is no video out through the USB port, but Miracast is very useful and I use that quite a lot too. The limited screen space of the tablet kind of detracts from the experience, the CPU is powerful enough, like on Samsung's dex, to run a desktop environment, and most of the time screens aren't 2560 X1600 anyway! Only issue is display latency through miracast.

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