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WM6 Update

Hey guys whats up, does anybody know any info on the stauts on WM6? Any word for the 750? I just cant wait for it to come out.

I've heard no earlier than June, although nothing says that it can't take a little longer than that.

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I'd bet on late summer, early fall

No one knows for sure.. ..there is some dude in Spain that said in an interview that the update will be available in june. But there isn't any info about wich carier, or where it will be released. Guess they keep us left in the dark about this one

marsonist said:
I've heard no earlier than June, although nothing says that it can't take a little longer than that.
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Palm Insider says June and has pictures. I doubt it will be on time, something will keep it from being released on time.
http://www.palminsider.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=685

I bought the Treo 750 based soley on the fact that Palm annouced the Windows Mobile 6 update was official!
Been using WM6 on my wizard for 3 months now. Always wanted a Treo 750, but couldn't bear to go back to WM5.
Hope this is released sooner rather than later!

karl578 said:
I bought the Treo 750 based soley on the fact that Palm annouced the Windows Mobile 6 update was official!
Been using WM6 on my wizard for 3 months now. Always wanted a Treo 750, but couldn't bear to go back to WM5.
Hope this is released sooner rather than later!
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I felt the same way, but I really like a lot of the usability enhancements Palm made. I didn't want to move away from WM6, but Palm has made the transition easier to accept. I just can't wait until WM6 is released - that will make it all better!

speaking of enhancements, I very much like the threaded messaging feature on the Treo 750. Hope that remains intact on WM6 for the Treo?!

karl578 said:
speaking of enhancements, I very much like the threaded messaging feature on the Treo 750. Hope that remains intact on WM6 for the Treo?!
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I hope they integrate it into the actual messaging app, so I don't have to waste a Start Menu item and/or key shortcut.

Sorry richy, but I wouldn't expect any major differences between the WM5 and WM6 builds. The majority of the enhancements belong to WM6.
Why does the messaging app take up more space or more key shortcuts than the pocket outlook inbox? (In the settings menu you can specify what shows up in the start menu)

Hope this upgrade eliminate those stupid %#@&!(@#^ bug(S)...
I can wait for june or july... but it must be bug free ^^

Djoe said:
Hope this upgrade eliminate those stupid %#@&!(@#^ bug(S)...
I can wait for june or july... but it must be bug free ^^
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I harldy think it's gonna be bug free, but I've owned a few other WM devices Prophet, Wizard, Tornado, Typhoon and Voyager by HTC and I must say that the Treo is by far the most stable, although it's not the fastest or the most tweakeable device. This is probably due to the business customer they are aiming at
Things that will remain:
- annoying E-mail on the left soft button
- SMS -> left softkey DELETE instead of NEW. Lucky for us Treo users we have our threaded SMS
The thing I'm looking for is the extra speed with WM6 on the Treo, seen in it action and it sure looks promissing!

mccune said:
but I've owned a few other WM devices by HTC
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Well I don't have that many, but i'm using PDA that many, i;m a second hand PDA seller ^^ so i change my PDA a lot.
IMO: O2 mini & O2 IIi is the best, havent try flame -.-
mccune said:
and I must say that the Treo is by far the most stable, although it's not the fastest or the most tweakeable device.
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Stable... dunno bout that, I'm using Pocket Breeze and Handy Switcher that always running in the background. My Treo kindda in love with hang
not the fastest n tweakable... yes, can not agree more with that. That's what i afraid from WM06, it more resources hog and not tweakable (My thought)
mccune said:
Things that will remain:
- annoying E-mail on the left soft button
- SMS -> left softkey DELETE instead of NEW. Lucky for us Treo users we have our threaded SMS
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I'm using SKtools, so I can change the left soft button... I know u can do it without SKtools... But I can't ^^
mccune said:
The thing I'm looking for is the extra speed with WM6 on the Treo, seen in it action and it sure looks promissing!
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Let's cross our fingers and hope for the best. coz this the the PDA that i love so much... My first Treo ^^

I think the fact that the WM6 update for the Blackjack was leaked is a great sign for the 750 because they were supposed to be released all around the same time. I was very amazed that AT&T didn't pull it down from the forums on their website.

Djoe said:
Well I don't have that many, but i'm using PDA that many, i;m a second hand PDA seller ^^ so i change my PDA a lot.
IMO: O2 mini & O2 IIi is the best, havent try flame -.-
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I would really like to get my hands on a Flame, but I don't think the Flame is being released in The Netherlands
Djoe said:
Stable... dunno bout that, I'm using Pocket Breeze and Handy Switcher that always running in the background. My Treo kindda in love with hang
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I use PocketBreeze, AgendaOne, Messaging and pBar that are always open on my device, I only need to softreset after installing a lot off stuff, or when the program requirs it
Djoe said:
not the fastest n tweakable... yes, can not agree more with that. That's what i afraid from WM06, it more resources hog and not tweakable (My thought)
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I've watched a video about WM6 on the Treo and it's much more faster than WM5 if you ask me! Can't wait to gain a few more % off extra speed on the OS!
Djoe said:
I'm using SKtools, so I can change the left soft button... I know u can do it without SKtools... But I can't ^^
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I don't think you can change the left softkey to just one function!? You will always have that anoying E-mail app under the left soft key.
Djoe said:
Let's cross our fingers and hope for the best. coz this the the PDA that i love so much... My first Treo ^^
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lol I agree, altough I am thinking about getting myself a HTC Trinity. Hard choises

- delete -

OOT mode = on
mccune said:
I don't think you can change the left softkey to just one function!? You will always have that anoying E-mail app under the left soft key.
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You can change your left soft key (LSK)...
My LSK goes to messages, so not only email but when I click on my LSK there are two option appear, SMS and Email (coz Trroe seperate this fuction)
I'm using SKTools, it's a tweaking program ^^ and the good news is; u can change it into anything with SKTools
there you go http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html

Djoe said:
OOT mode = on
You can change your left soft key (LSK)...
My LSK goes to messages, so not only email but when I click on my LSK there are two option appear, SMS and Email (coz Trroe seperate this fuction)
I'm using SKTools, it's a tweaking program ^^ and the good news is; u can change it into anything with SKTools
there you go http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
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I think it's a language thing goin' on here
We mean the same thing. You can add an extra application, but you can't get rid of the e-mail!

I just install the WM5new button and assign it to the left soft key. Now I can select to send new SMS, MMS, email, Word doc, etc...
Works pretty good.`

oo3 said:
I just install the WM5new button and assign it to the left soft key. Now I can select to send new SMS, MMS, email, Word doc, etc...
Works pretty good.`
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Sweet, thanks for this.

Dial any contact from the Today screen

I just discovered a cool WM6 feature:
"One excellent new feature in Windows Mobile 6 Professional is the ability to begin dialing contacts from the Today Screen. If you just start typing someone's name, the Today Screen will switch to the phone dialer and offer contact suggestions that begin with the letters you just started typing."
Source: http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=4218

wow, that's really useful. thanks.

Well, this only works if your device has a hard keyboard. since the software based keyboards are not accessible from the Today Screen.

c_shekhar said:
Well, this only works if your device has a hard keyboard. since the software based keyboards are not accessible from the Today Screen.
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well our wizards do! lol.. obivously...

c_shekhar said:
Well, this only works if your device has a hard keyboard. since the software based keyboards are not accessible from the Today Screen.
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Hmmm. . . I kinda' figured that was a "given", since it was posted in the Wizard forums, and the Wizard has a hardware keyboard. But then, I've been wrong before. . .

newbie2 said:
that was a "given", since it was posted in the Wizard forums
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Precisely my thoughts (which was why I posted it here).

Great tip. Thanks. I always hate pulling out the stylus.

Cootek Touchpal, A new input method for WM Device

A new Input Method for Windows Mobile
A quick review
TouchPal is a brand new Input Method for Windows mobile which is pretty fast, accurate and convenient. But what’s best is that it is completely free for download until december 8!
In opposition to other solutions, TouchPal provides a “normal” QWERTY on-screen keyboard, with keys being easy to press with thumbs (animated gif here). In addition to that, the guys behind TouchPal have made switching from uppercase/lowercase really easy and fast: you just have to press and hold the selected letter and swipe up/down to change the case… and this is BRILLIANT!
The same technique is used to input punctuation… Making it (one of) the only input methods available where you don’t have to make a key combination or press twice to input what you are looking for.
Another deal-maker is the speed of this thing: even on an HTC Touch, I was able to get a really decent input speed (read: fast). Fire-up the video below and see by yourself!
However, you have to love the QWERTY keyboard because it’s the only one this solution provides (same goes with the predictive thing, it’s english only). I guess this will be supported somehow in the later releases.
Still, it’s the best input method I’ve used so far on Windows Mobile, and I’ll advise anyone to give it a try!
YouTube Video
Free Download till Dec 08th
Download TouchPal here, and its documentation here.

Interesting idea, but doesnt work.
1. Installed the cab.
2. Soft reset.
3. Click the arrow, get the list of SIPS.
4. Click the TouchPal thingy.
5. Nothing happens (device seems to hang for a second or two).
This is WM6 with the Kaiser.

shaharprish said:
Interesting idea, but doesnt work.
1. Installed the cab.
2. Soft reset.
3. Click the arrow, get the list of SIPS.
4. Click the TouchPal thingy.
5. Nothing happens (device seems to hang for a second or two).
This is WM6 with the Kaiser.
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Did you soft-reset your device? And it is possible that TouchPal is incompatible with some other non-default soft keyboards. My friend got TouchPal work after uninstalling a Chinese keyboard and reinstall TouchPal->Soft-Reset. He decided not to go back to other keyboard, even decide to give up hardware keyboard.

yeap. step 2 there. and i dont have any sips.

shaharprish said:
yeap. step 2 there. and i dont have any sips.
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do you have password setup for your device? if not, it is worthy of trying setup a password for your device. someone fixed this issue by this approach.

Can't wait
Excellent concept! Tried in on my VGA device. Got an error message saying "can't initiate dictionary" but it launched regardless. Great way to input different characters, especially between upper and lower case characters. I also like the keys to input web addresses!
Great job. Can't wait for a VGA version!

mphayvanh said:
Excellent concept! Tried in on my VGA device. Got an error message saying "can't initiate dictionary" but it launched regardless. Great way to input different characters, especially between upper and lower case characters. I also like the keys to input web addresses!
Great job. Can't wait for a VGA version!
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I guess you download wrong cab. "can't initiate dictionary" was a mistake and has been fixed. One of my friend encoutered this issue on several hours ago's build. He downloaded it again, seems that issue has been resolved!
So, you can try to download it again. Soft-reset your device and then install the new cab right after reboot.
BTW, VGA version is available

Great SIP! The only thing I am missing is the swedish characters åäö. I will still use it becouse it works so well.
Does anyone know if it is using the built in dictionary?

OMG i Think this will be my default SIP

On my touch it works fine. But this sip is quite haevy. Does anyone know how to create other dict for it.

i've installed on my touch and jasjar, both are working fine. of course i used the differet installer for qvga and vga.
i've uninstalled pcm keyboard for now.

Custom Words.
Simply edit the engdisct_usr.txt and add the words you want. It can be found under the \Prorgam files\TouchPal\.
In case you use non-english words, It's advisable to select " precise Input Mode" under options.
leszcz2 said:
On my touch it works fine. But this sip is quite haevy. Does anyone know how to create other dict for it.
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veeru27 said:
Simply edit the engdisct_usr.txt and add the words you want. It can be found under the \Prorgam files\TouchPal\.
In case you use non-english words, It's advisable to select " precise Input Mode" under options.
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Oh, great info. I tried and found the dictionary was only loaded after WM reboot. So, adding your words, soft-reset device and then select TouchPal will make your customized words appear.

I can't get it to work. Everytime I select the keyboard under the Input Method in between the softkeys I just get the regular WM6 keyboard. I'm trying this on my Mogul. Any ideas?

SIP Change
Use this SIP Changer. I get the same issue with this SIP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008

seems cool giving it a try now... working ok on my hermes
now to turn the caps lock off lol

mybeautify said:
do you have password setup for your device? if not, it is worthy of trying setup a password for your device. someone fixed this issue by this approach.
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Yes. I have a password set up on my device.
Has anyone been able to make it work on a Kaiser?

I have it working on my Kaiser
I have no password set on the device

I also have it working on my Kaiser and Ameo. For Ameo I neede to install SdCert... to get it working

RPG0 said:
I have it working on my Kaiser
I have no password set on the device
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I installed it to my Kaiser, without issues. Just a detail, the SIP keeps in the screen even when the windows that instantiated it lost the focus. But is working fine.
Regards,
Taguapire.

How to change the hard keyboard to Chinese mapping?

Hi there all, I have searched and read and then searched some more, even on other forums but (probably due to my technological stupidity) I have not found an answer... I need to use Chinese sometimes when emailing or smsing etc and I like to use the hard keyboard if its going to be a long one (amazing how quickly I got to like the qwerty keyboard)... now I have AEKmap so I can quickly change from the English one to a Chinese one (or so I thought) but I find that it does not have a Chinese keyboard listed in the options (just the default and a couple of Russian options). I have CEStar installed and also the d-ear Chinese sip as well as the 10 Key d-ear sip... but still cant find an option to enable the Chinese mapping for the hard keyboard. Am I missing something obvious (all to likely given my skill with tech stuff) or do I need to find a Chinese keyboard map? thanks for any help anyone can offer...

CE star is a solution but it s not free
and the logiciel bug my HTC wizard and Kaiser (hard reset)

Thanks but I already have CEStar but when I slide out the hard Kb it wont let me choose a Chinese layout and I can not type in pinyin... (wont let me choose a sip), would sip change help here?

Shadowdh said:
Thanks but I already have CEStar but when I slide out the hard Kb it wont let me choose a Chinese layout and I can not type in pinyin... (wont let me choose a sip), would sip change help here?
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install CESTAR or A4 pinyin input for Kaiser
then, open up your registry editor
go to HKLM->HARDWARE->DEVICEMAP->KEYBD
change curlang to 0x804
restart your kaiser
slide out your keyboard, the Sym/Tab button should allow u to switch to chinese input (if yours is a Eur/US device)
if yours is a Chinese APAC device, then you should see a chinese character at that button.
the button is on the left of the space bar

I have CEStar and it works perfectly for me. as long as you select the chinese mode, you will be able to eithe type in chinese with the keyboard (slide-out) or type with the stylus (regular)

Ruffruff... thanks for the advice, if I make this regedit will it be chinese layout all the time or can I select between default and Chinese in AEKmap?
Zcsx1985 yeah I sort of worked it out, I had to select the sip in portrait and then when I slid the keyboard out it worked fine...
Actually now that I have done that I can bring up the sip switch thing (little triangle next to the keyboard symbol on the screen) after sliding out the keyboard which I couldnt do before and now its all ok... well so far... cheers

Shadowdh said:
... and also the d-ear Chinese sip as well as the 10 Key d-ear sip...
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Hi Shadow, how did you get the d-ear sips to work? Any special configurations necessary?
I have not managed to get them to work properly. when i type any messages, it appears right on my kaiser screen but when sent, my client will receive a whole page of question marks.
Did you overcome that issue?

sunstorm said:
Hi Shadow, how did you get the d-ear sips to work? Any special configurations necessary?
I have not managed to get them to work properly. when i type any messages, it appears right on my kaiser screen but when sent, my client will receive a whole page of question marks.
Did you overcome that issue?
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I didnt do anything special, just install and then use... is your clients phone set up to receive Chinese characters cos thats the only reason for them not being able to receive them I can think of.. of course I am not too knowledgeable about such matters so it might be something else... if it is perhaps try uninstalling and then reinstalling... plus I am using a cooked ROM not stock...

Shadowdh said:
Ruffruff... thanks for the advice, if I make this regedit will it be chinese layout all the time or can I select between default and Chinese in AEKmap?
Zcsx1985 yeah I sort of worked it out, I had to select the sip in portrait and then when I slid the keyboard out it worked fine...
Actually now that I have done that I can bring up the sip switch thing (little triangle next to the keyboard symbol on the screen) after sliding out the keyboard which I couldnt do before and now its all ok... well so far... cheers
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I have an English ROM, how can I get Chinese MENU (switchable to English) and Chinese Pinyin input...? Thank in advance....

I'm using a WWE ROM and after I installed CE Star and the input method, it works great without any registry modifications
but one thing that bothers me is everytime I need to open the soft keyboard, press the "Chinese" symbol" once, then I can use the "input switch" button on the hardware keyboard to switch between typing English and Chinese ...

Tony as Kw31 says, CEStar is my main IME and it works fine, only conflicts with MS reader when its in Chinese mode (and also Pleco2 but thats another program)...

Text Problem!! This really sucks

Ok so when I get a text or email on my TF3D and I open the email or text. Then I hit reply/open the qwerty and the box comes. then I start to type and it goes into my phone!! I x the phone out and im back to main display with qwerty open. So then I have to go back in messages select message and reply.
Anyone else????? This is frustrating when you are trying to type a quick message.

Yes i have encountered this problem, not just with texting. Try pairing with bluetooth in landscape...i bet the passcode prompt does that same thing?

mrvanx said:
Yes i have encountered this problem, not just with texting. Try pairing with bluetooth in landscape...i bet the passcode prompt does that same thing?
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If issues like this dont get fixed I will dump this in the garbage drawer, sad but windows really needs to get stupid stuff like this figured out. I never have these issues with RIM and other devices.

GlobalM3 said:
If issues like this dont get fixed I will dump this in the garbage drawer, sad but windows really needs to get stupid stuff like this figured out. I never have these issues with RIM and other devices.
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Perhaps try a cooked ROM such as fireROM?? if you leave the ROM as it was when you bought it then you havent played the game!

mrvanx said:
Perhaps try a cooked ROM such as fireROM?? if you leave the ROM as it was when you bought it then you havent played the game!
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This is my first windows phone that has had the hardware I like so I havent really done all the cooked and hacks etc..
Can you link me to this I would love to keep this phone.
Thanks!

I think I have read somewhere that you should give it a sec or 2 before you actually start typing the qwerty.
This way you will have the same window infront of you.
Regarding BT, that really sucks but still a one time thing if it's a headset and you do not pair devices every day...
But all in all, I think we shouldn't be worried.
This is just S/W ****ty bugs that will be fixed when we have our great chefs cook their 3rd or 4th ROM release we will have satisfying results.
I just hope this forum gets the attention that was on Kaiser, then we will all enjoy
I remember Kaiser's WM6 ROMs had a similar bug,
Comm Manager kept popping every now and then infront of you and was fixed in time...
We have to keep in mind that this is the start and we will have to be keen on all threads posted around.
I just hope we get all the help from the greatest devs at Diamond forum as it won't be alot different.
Differences in time will be known to chefs and as they cook a Diamond ROM they can add some stuff and release it to Raph as well.
Way ahead of myself aren't I
Alot to look forward to, which is the fun of WinMo IMO
Cheers

the other way of doing it is to wait until the reply screen is actually shown before you open the keyboard.
If i hit reply in TF3d and then immediately open the keyboard before the compose screen has appeared, then yes, it does exactly as you describe.
if i hit reply, and then open the keyboard AFTER the compose screen has appeared, no such problem.
you need to let the messaging app open before you open the keyboard, otherwise the opening of the keyboard triggers tf3D, not the messaging.
Minor bug, and one that will no doubt be fixed soon enough by the devs here.

rhedgehog said:
the other way of doing it is to wait until the reply screen is actually shown before you open the keyboard.
If i hit reply in TF3d and then immediately open the keyboard before the compose screen has appeared, then yes, it does exactly as you describe.
if i hit reply, and then open the keyboard AFTER the compose screen has appeared, no such problem.
you need to let the messaging app open before you open the keyboard, otherwise the opening of the keyboard triggers tf3D, not the messaging.
Minor bug, and one that will no doubt be fixed soon enough by the devs here.
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I have tried this, it does not always work.
Thanks for the suggestion.