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Hi everyone, I'm not sure if this is the best forum to post this, but here goes.
I use Windows media Player on my WM6 phone, well Duttys 6.1 actually, but i don't think that will change anything.
I know its not generally the preferred player, but I like it. Anyway, my question, is there a way to tell it to ONLY scan a specific folder to add media to the library, or does it have to always scan then entire memory card.
The thing is, I use my TyTN II as my portable MP3 player, so I have alot of music stored on my memory card, but I also have newsbreak download all my pod casts to my memory card too, and media player adds these podcasts to the library too.
So is there a way I can tell it to just scan my Music folder so these other audio files don't get mixed in with my music library.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
ps. if your solution is 'use a different player' please don't bother.
thanks...
Has nobody any idea's.
Even a 'No, give it up' would be better than nothing.
I will like to know too also a way to keep my radio streams easy to play
Bump, this is actually a good one. It's such a hassle when you add one or two songs or videos and then have to tell WMP to update and watch it re-read and re-add 500 files. I have a 4GB micro and that can take awhile!
Please, somebody, anybody.....
Make playlists that is what I do. I have oodles of audio books on my memory card and to avoid them get scrambled in when I shuffle I just load a playlist.
As for the using a 2nd media player I do that also when I don't want to load navigate to find the playlist and change settings from shuffle to consecutive playback. I just use HTC Home with HTC Audio manager for in a hurry playback of music. Hope this helps.
Edit: Just wanted to add I decided to play with WMP a little more after posting and fund that If you use the ID3v1/ID3v2 tags and sort that way it is really useful too. But to simplify a solution again I recommend a playlist. You can create and edit you playlists right on the phone. If your tags are accurate you can make a proper playlist in no time.
Playlists are the things I really wanted to avoid, I add and remove songs and albums pretty much everyday and having to recreate the playlist everytime seems silly.
Thanks for the contribution though.
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.
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Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?
When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?
WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.
Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!
I'm one of the few people who actually like the Music tab's interface (using the zoom to scan a song is very nice, IMO) but I have a question about removing songs from the library...
I deleted the stock songs from my device and now, when I go to the music tab, I get the 'searching...' message and, when I go to library, all the old songs are still there, but with exclamation marks rather than album art.
I went to WMP and deleted all the songs in the 'My Music' list, so I know the two aren't tied together.
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?
Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng. That should force AudioManager to re-search your device for Music (you'll need to disable TF3D and make sure Audio Manager isn't running in the background to delete the file. You also may need to use Total Commander or Resco, however selecting "Show all Files" in File Explorer may also work).
I personally haven't tested it by deleting any files first, but I don't see why it shouldn't work (though you did indicate it shows "Searching" everytime you go to the tab, so this may not work). It's something to try, at any rate.
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Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng.
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That didn't work. The deleted songs still show up and it still doesn't see the new songs. You figure they'd want these devices to be user friendly and make it easy to copy your music onto it. Or remove songs you don't want.
bryceowen said:
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?
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I have my Music in \Storage Card\Music (because that's where Windows Media puts them by default when you sync it), and I've never had any problems with AudioManager finding my Music. Perhaps you should elaborate on your setup, ROM-wise.
Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)
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Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)
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No, you shouldn't need to. I'm really not sure why it wouldn't be working.
What Carrier are you on? What location? There may be a ROM update floating around somewhere that will solve your problem.
I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...
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I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...
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I don't know if that's possible, unfortunately. I'd actually suggest a hard reset to see if that fixes the issue. If you're going to do that, you may as well update to the new AT&T ROM. I, unfortunately don't have any other suggestions for you.
Actually, the only other thing I can think of is that it's an issue with your SD card, but that wouldn't explain why AudioManager won't update.
go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.
I actually found the solution on the AT&T support forums. (HOLY CRAP! Useful information was ACTUALLY found there for once!)
Two words:
Soft reset.
Don't know why I didn't try it sooner.
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go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.
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The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.
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The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.
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I assumed you'd tried that. That's usually the first thing everyone tries, so I didn't even bother suggesting it. Glad you got it working.
i dont like to restart the phone. it takes a really long time to boot up. it always finds the songs with the way i listed. i even have all my album art.
All,
I've searched the forums and I've seen that people are asking how to exclude certain folders from the search path of the htc music engine. While this approach may work for some, it doesn't work for me, because I would have to know all the folders where music is stored to exclude them, and that can be a pain if you have several programs installed on your device.
What I've been trying to do is I've been trying to find out how to restrict or "force" the htc engine to search for music in one folder that I can configure and only in that folder. I save all my music to
\Stogare Card\Music\
But i have audio books in \Storage Card\My Documents\My Books\Audiobooks\
and when i go to the music tab, it tries to play my books (very annoying) and also, it plays the system sounds from the \Windows folder and any other sounds that it finds from the \Program Files\ folder, etc...
Does anyone have any idea how to tell the player to ONLY scan the \Storage Card\Music\ folder for music?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
ZaidSenall said:
All,
I've searched the forums and I've seen that people are asking how to exclude certain folders from the search path of the htc music engine. While this approach may work for some, it doesn't work for me, because I would have to know all the folders where music is stored to exclude them, and that can be a pain if you have several programs installed on your device.
What I've been trying to do is I've been trying to find out how to restrict or "force" the htc engine to search for music in one folder that I can configure and only in that folder. I save all my music to
\Stogare Card\Music\
But i have audio books in \Storage Card\My Documents\My Books\Audiobooks\
and when i go to the music tab, it tries to play my books (very annoying) and also, it plays the system sounds from the \Windows folder and any other sounds that it finds from the \Program Files\ folder, etc...
Does anyone have any idea how to tell the player to ONLY scan the \Storage Card\Music\ folder for music?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
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Dunno about Sense Music Player (I stay away from HTC bloatware and only use third party or MS apps), but some decent 3rd party media players that allow for excluding dirs when building up their library. See the "Library scanning: ex/including folders?" row in the chart in my dedicated article at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415063
btw, my article has a lot of other goodies you may find extremely useful
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Dunno about Sense Music Player (I stay away from HTC bloatware and only use third party or MS apps), but some decent 3rd party media players that allow for excluding dirs when building up their library. See the "Library scanning: ex/including folders?" row in the chart in my dedicated article at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415063
btw, my article has a lot of other goodies you may find extremely useful
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I've tried using third party players (TCPMP, Nitrogen, Mortplayer) but i can't control any of those with the forward/back buttons on the HD2 hands free, and when I lock the phone with the end key to put it in my pocket, the only player that keeps playing music is the Sense Music Player, all the others stop playing and i have to unlock the phone and hit play again.
Also, with Sense Music Player, I can be reading something on the internet, or using my GPS and I can still change songs without having to go to the music tab or switching applications by simply using the forward/back buttons on my hands free, so i prefer to skip the files i don't want to listen to (little annoyance) to having to switch applications or to not being able to lock the phone (big annoyance)
So in my opinion, the only thing that the Sense Music player is missing to be perfect is the ability to tell it which folders to scan for music, like Mortplayer does, for instance.
I use mortplayer for audiobooks, the ability to add bookmarks to mp3 audiobooks is great, no other player can do that as far as i know. (there is Overdrive Media Console, but you have to use THEIR audiobooks)
thanks for your reply, though... as i said, all help is appreciated.
ZaidSenall said:
I've tried using third party players (TCPMP, Nitrogen, Mortplayer) but i can't control any of those with the forward/back buttons on the HD2 hands free, and when I lock the phone with the end key to put it in my pocket, the only player that keeps playing music is the Sense Music Player, all the others stop playing and i have to unlock the phone and hit play again.
Also, with Sense Music Player, I can be reading something on the internet, or using my GPS and I can still change songs without having to go to the music tab or switching applications by simply using the forward/back buttons on my hands free, so i prefer to skip the files i don't want to listen to (little annoyance) to having to switch applications or to not being able to lock the phone (big annoyance)
So in my opinion, the only thing that the Sense Music player is missing to be perfect is the ability to tell it which folders to scan for music, like Mortplayer does, for instance.
I use mortplayer for audiobooks, the ability to add bookmarks to mp3 audiobooks is great, no other player can do that as far as i know. (there is Overdrive Media Console, but you have to use THEIR audiobooks)
thanks for your reply, though... as i said, all help is appreciated.
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btw, as far as button assignment problems are concerned, did you try third-party tools? see my dedicated article at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337602
Create a file named .nomedia in the directory in which you don't want them to show up. This works on Android, not sure what OS you're using.
Edit: You're using sense. It will work. Worked for me anyways. I have "Better Keyboard" installed and it stores all sounds on SD Card so I created .nomedia and viola, it's all gone from my music player. File needs to be blank, just needs to be named .nomedia.
Another edit: I guess you're not android. I thought you were talking about Android Sense. I'm sorry, but I can't help on this matter. Very sorry. However, if you ever get Android, there's a trick for you.
will check this out and see what I can do with it.
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btw, as far as button assignment problems are concerned, did you try third-party tools? see my dedicated article at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337602
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Tried it, but windows doesn't let you create a file with only an extension and no file name... it would have been great if it had worked! There's got to be a registry setting somewhere! if only somebody knew it and shared it!
thank you for your help, though! I appreciate it!
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Create a file named .nomedia in the directory in which you don't want them to show up. This works on Android, not sure what OS you're using.
Edit: You're using sense. It will work. Worked for me anyways. I have "Better Keyboard" installed and it stores all sounds on SD Card so I created .nomedia and viola, it's all gone from my music player. File needs to be blank, just needs to be named .nomedia.
Another edit: I guess you're not android. I thought you were talking about Android Sense. I'm sorry, but I can't help on this matter. Very sorry. However, if you ever get Android, there's a trick for you.
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One workaround i found is making a playlist with all the songs on the device and skip all other audio files, but this is annoying and takes a lot of time...
try using A_C S2P AND S2U2
S2P will only detect play/pause. It will not detect track forward/backwards.
iam also looking for this solution on my omnia 2 with sense 2.5, went to the registry with no luck
Another option is to hide all folders you don't want SENSE to scan. Read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5504259
I have the same problem... I can't believe HTC didn't think about this issue!
In old version of windows mobile a dummy "ignore_my_docs" file use to do the trick.
Don't know if it is still effective in wm6 or if it works with the sense media player....
+1 i have the same question
The .nomedia works
This is what I did, I followed the advise of the .nomedia, but since windows does not allow a nameless file I created a "a.nomedia" and pasted into the folder I wanted to exclude.
Then with ES File Explorer in the phone I did a rename and removed the "a". It worked like a charm!! Now I can use HTC Sense Music and no third party.
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The .nomedia worked however how do i remove it if I wanted to?
Hidden file?
Es file explore doesn't find it
I recently decided to start using my music player on my HD2 due to the newest Cookies HT 1.8 update, and Windows Media and Sense Music player seems to have lots of bugs within the music player and/or missing options and other stuff i cant seem to figure out. I'm just puzzled and thought maybe others are having the same problem
1. I had a ton of music all mislabeled tags and no artwork, so first i tried to use the update on Sense tab to replace the artwork with the generic melody icon. ***That feature NEVER works for me, It doesn't seem to work even on very well labeled music tags. even when i enable WiFi, it doesn't give me artwork. (this is the first issue)
2. Why can I play music from both Windows Media, and Sense Music. its kinda an issue. Sometime I like to go my SD and play a MP3 file, But I'd rather have Sense Music player do all the work, it seems to run much smoother than Windows Media player. How do you relink your mp3's to play to Sense music player when clicking on a Mp3 files from the SD Card??
3. I updated my library using Windows Media, since Sense Music tab seemed to be lacking that feature to update the library altogether. Adding Music, Sense is kinda glitchy and I sometimes just have to soft reset to find a new mp3 just added. Using Windows Media to update your library is a nightmare!! Windows Media took 50++ of my ringtones and placed them into my Music library. then to make it even worst, it added every single sound effect from my phone and all 30 so games with sound effects installed on my SD card. (No one wants to be jamming out, then the music player flips to the next song that just happens to be a Japanese airplane pilot from "Flight Commander" Then another good song. oh back to the Japanese pilot again.) Now i dont know how to untangle this mess. I hate Windows Media. Why wont it just allow me to pick what folder I want to update rather than scan unnecessary files throughout my whole device that i may not want in my library? i get even more angry when of course I can only delete one file at a time from my music library after it just added an unnecessary 200 sound effects; which is now mixed all through my music library list.
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I am hoping someone here is an expert with the music library and tell me what file to delete to reset the library memory or maybe a way to avoid the media player from adding useless sound effects to my library. perhaps someone that can modify the music player to add features or a program to help modify the music experience.
Thank you
1. I've got this problem too, and I guess it's the lack of sense supporting the ID3v1 or ID3v2 meta data tags. You could use this application to check and edit the data, but -as I said- that's only a guess.
2. No, that's just not possible
3. Open your favorite registry editor, and browse to
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ MediaPlayer \ Preferences \ FoldersExcludedFromLibrary
set the value to the folders you would like to exclude from indexing, like:
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FoldersExcludedFromLibrary="\Storage Card\My Documents\My Ringtones;\Storage Card\Program Files\Flight Commander;"
Good luck!
I can't thank you enough for the info to exclude folders in my music file. YES!!! I'll give it a try... i'll probably have to hand delete unwanted stuff? or will it disengage once i type in the excluded?
can i get sense music to update, or do i have to use the dual setup from media player to search and update tags? i used media monkey to update my tags, but sense shows outdated info. its kinda strange it's sticking on the old file tags as well
Does this effect both music players????
3. It's not working with this registry value! Does it have to be to an specify folder or can i make it broad?
(I tried this to eliminate a whole mess of sound making programs and games)
FoldersExcludedFromLibrary="\Storage Card\Program Files" meaning everything within program files are excluded.
***so far it doesn't recognize this value at all. it's frustrating if I have to add each independent file within a game, ringtone, garmin, etc... that's a lot of research and coding
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I can't thank you enough for the info to exclude folders in my music file. YES!!! I'll give it a try... i'll probably have to hand delete unwanted stuff? or will it disengage once i type in the excluded?
can i get sense music to update, or do i have to use the dual setup from media player to search and update tags? i used media monkey to update my tags, but sense shows outdated info. its kinda strange it's sticking on the old file tags as well
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Go to \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\ and delete the file AudioManager_Eng.vol that should delete the sense music library, which will be rebuild after a restart of your device. Note that this folder and file may be hidden.
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Does this effect both music players????
3. It's not working with this registry value! Does it have to be to an specify folder or can i make it broad?
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No, it does only effect the windows media player. Have you done a softreset after applying the registry changes? (Then update lib in media player)
Yes, I've been dozens of soft resets after editing my registry. its kinda an automatic thing since i know it must boot the modded material before it can fix/ correct the issue.
In this case, i don't see why i'm adding entries into the registry to exclude folders; if it has absolutely no impact on Sense Music player. I need Sense MP to not play my game sounds effects if i am randomly playing all songs.
I have found a cab that resets my sense library every time i restart my phone, so it doesn't take up additional boot time, with the added benefit of rebuilding the library. I guess truly, i must create a playlist in order to avoid this issue... i wish for a program like the iphone music player but incorporated like Sense MP.
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In this case, i don't see why i'm adding entries into the registry to exclude folders; if it has absolutely no impact on Sense Music player.
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As said before the registrykey only affects the windows media player library settings.
I found these keys:
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HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config
device_scan_path, device_scan_path_0, ring_tone_path
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Set device_scan_path_path and device_scan_path_path_0 to \Storage Card\Music
Haven't tested it, but it should work. The ringtonepath can be used as a single exclusion path
I was curious if you updated your rom? I, too, started paying more attention to my music player after updating co0kies to 1.8. I have read on dozens of threads about the issues on the sense music player and have experienced most of them at one point or another to the point of not wanting to even use it. Anyway, after updating to the new rom the player and audio eng. miraculously became dramatically more stable. It didn't solve everything but certainly cleaned it up alot. Just wondering....
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I was curious if you updated your rom?
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i use cht 1.8, but I'm sure that doesn't effect the problems you're facing
yeah, I've updated my Rom a while ago. just updated stock T mobile USA Rom, but i don't think any of this should be an impact because its still sense 2.5 (ver. 2012) within both stock and update.
I think I'll just remove some of the games causing the conflict since i don't even play them. i've cleaned up the music library as good as i could. when i find the cab file, I'll post it on here so others can refresh their library.