I recently just got a Samsung Jack i616 and it had Windows Mobile 6.0 on it. I upgraded it with the official 6.1 upgrade from Rogers, and everything upgraded fine. But when I call someone, or someone calls me I can't hear them and they can't hear me. I know the phone worked before the upgrade, but now I'm not sure as to why it's doing this. I've tried restarting the phone, but nothing has worked. I haven't found anything on Google, so I thought I'd post it in the forum that I know has come up with so many miracles that made my HTC Touch Elf so enjoyable.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
**Update**
Fixed the problem by dialing *2767*3855#
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same problem
Hi
I am having the same problem. have you resolved the problem. I would like to see your solution as this is driving me up a wall.
Fibrolan
P.S. I am on the fido network
I have experienced this same issue. I bought a new i616 on the Fido network, upgraded to wm6.1, made a test phone call, and then removed the sim.
While the sim was removed I setup all the software I use (took about a week) and played around with the phone (GPS, etc) to be sure I understood it's capabilities. And then I put the sim card back in - exactly the same issue you have had - it makes and receives calls but there is no sound on any end.
I fixed this by doing a hard reset (with format) - immediately after the format, I tried a test call again and it worked (sound on both ends). I then proceeded to setup the phone again (this time with the sim card still in it) and at the end of installing all the software, the phone still worked.
I have no idea why it stopped working in the first place.
The code you mention does a EEPROM reset which appears to be a carrier unlock on some phones - is your phone now carrier unlocked?
On a side note, the software/hardware on this i616 appears to be a complete train wreck - the GPS sometimes works, sometimes doesnt, sometimes the phone does not allow sound when making phone calls, the bluetooth doesnt connect to some of my devices that have never had any connection issues in the past, etc. These are pretty fundamental issues. I have had a couple of HTC WM phones for the past several years and I have never experienced anything like this with them - perhaps the Jack will grow on me but just setting it up has been a pretty poor experience.
Well, it happened again - no sound on either end during a phone call. I havent done anything since the last rebuild - eventually the sound stopped working.
A full reset with format fixes the problem but I think I have reached the limit - I am not going to rebuild it again because I have no idea when the phone stops working - I do not know what to do differently.
I am going to return this phone for something else - this phone has been remarkably bad (especially for a phone which gets great reviews).
Any ideas what is going on?
same issue
So far the only way to resolve this is the format... rogers says the phone is defective but considering the issue is more than just me I expect a replacement jack is not a guarantee that this issue will go away...
Hi,
I think I have found the culprit that is causing the problems. whe you do an unlock for application, the problem will start happening. not installing the unlock application the phone will work fine.
the only real benefit for the unlock application is getting the gps to work on com4. most applications will work without running unlock.
if anyone has way around this I am listening.
Fibrolan
fibrolan said:
Hi,
I think I have found the culprit that is causing the problems. whe you do an unlock for application, the problem will start happening. not installing the unlock application the phone will work fine.
the only real benefit for the unlock application is getting the gps to work on com4. most applications will work without running unlock.
if anyone has way around this I am listening.
Fibrolan
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What unlock application are you talking about? Since I fixed the problem myself, I've only had the problem once, which was probably from trying to install a bunch of applications to my phone(which I fixed just by restarting the phone).
The * code that I posted was from the BlackJack II Rogers 6.1 Instructions
I believe he is talking about the application unlock. There are two things I put on my phone that require it - the GPSID thing (connect the GPS to a COM port), and WM5torage (phone looks like a USB drive).
I will format, and will not apply the unlock, and see what happens.
Thanks.
So I've been running into this problem more and more often now. It's seemingly random as to what triggers it. I've tried pulling the battery..turning it on and off..nothing seems to work. I don't really want to do a full format because I don't want to lose all my stuff on there.
I've also found out even with a bluetooth headset, I can't hear anything..I also can't hear anything if I plug in the headset that comes with the phone.
Hopefully we can find out a solution as to why it does this.
Ah so I am not alone.
My fido jack on 6.1 that is also application unlocked (Some of my apps do require this to be done, one way or another..) is doing the same thing. Sometimes I just have to reboot a few times in a row and it comes back, but as of this morhning I've done it 3-4 times and still no sound.
I have given up. I have decided not to app unlock the phone - it is the only way to guarantee the phone still functions as a phone and I have tried many, many things to get it to work. This definitely limits the capabilities of this phone.
This phone is a disaster - the GPS does not connect through a com port like almost every other GPS device on the market, not all of my bluetooth devices work with the phone, and if you app unlock it, it stops working as a phone.
I like the scroll wheel though.
any progress on this?
i have same issue:
-i616 (fido/roger jack)
-want to get GPS working
-but app unlocker will break sound (no sound during calls) on WM6.1
i think the unlockers are only for i617 blackjack2, but not for the canadian version...
any ideas???
I am still trying to figure out the root cause of this problem. Yesterday it happened again to me so I pulled out the battery, removed the sim card, and then reinstalled everything and it worked - no hard reset required. It hasnt happened since so I havent tried the sim card removal again, so it could just be a fluke.
But, if it does turn out to be sim card related, is it possible we are using older version sim cards? The phone came with a new one but I just stuck to using my older one. What abaout everyone else - new or old sim card?
Thanks.
I also have the samsung jack (fido) i616 and also cannot hear the calls on both ends on occasions...even prior to app unlocking so it may not be the app unlock that is causing the issue.
I would turn off and on the phone and it would work again.
Is there a permanent solution to resolve this?
Thanks in advance
Samsung Jack i616 - Can't Hear Calls - Callers can't hear me
I was scanning the xda-developer site as I have both a TytN II and a BJII and thought do I bother telling my story or not - I figured if I can save someone else the hassle, the Major headaches, the time and the Expense it is worth it. So hear goes, get a coffee and put your feet up as this is a long story. If you just wanna know the outcome and solution skip to the end..otherwise just settling in for the story.
Like many of you I bought an BJII from a well known Chinese Mall(PM) and at the same time got it unlocked. I got the phone home and immediately upgraded it to the Fido WM6.1 official rom as I had been using 6.1 on my Tytn II forever without any major headaches. This was my first mistake. (actually my 2nd the first was buying the dam phone in the first place). Right after the upgrade, after making a call, the caller could not hear me and I could not hear them. Only a Hard reset(HR) fixed the problem. After the reset, I then proceed to install some smartphone apps, (sda application unlock, MoDaco smartphoneGpsActivator, MS smartphone GPSID, Garmin Mobile XT etc) after installing my seventh app I decided to make another test call. I encountered the same problem, so I set about uninstalling one app at a time to see which one was the culprit. This did not work and only a HR would fix the problem. This nonsense installing, hard reseting went on for about a week.
Frustrated I took the BJII back to PM, but the dude did not want to give me my money back - he claimed because I had upgraded to 6.1 any software upgrades regardless of whether it was an official rom or not was not covered under warranty. At this point I was not sure whether I was facing a software issue or a hardware issue. Anyway, I took the phone home, and this nonsense with the phone and calls went on for weeks. The last straw for me was being in the mall with my wife and she's calling me and I did not hear the phone ring. Was she mad or what? So to prove I was not dodging her and eying up the babes I got her to call me while I had the phone in my hand and sure enough the phone was ringing, but there was no sound. We did this 4 times- I switched the phone on & off each time - so another HR - problem goes away.
I am Hugely frustrated by this point , however, I set about reinstalling my apps - as a side note one of the apps that I wanted to install was SPB backup 2 - BJII didn't like it so I could not use it hence having to reinstall each app everytime 1 by 1 after a HR. Anyway, this demon possessed phone would at least 3 times a week need to be HR. I was so frustrated that I decided to try the At&t rom,(Mistake #2) it crashed in the middle of the upgrade and bricked the phone. It would not turn on period. Now before you start, I am not a newbie, I have been messing around with windows smartphones and pocketpc for years - in fact my first pocketpc was a compact and it was grey scale, my first ever pda was a Psion, so I know how to flash phones, and cook my own roms.
Anyway, I took it back to PM and the dude wanted to charge me $150 bucks to fix it. I walked out the shop and tried another vendor he said that he would reflash it for $50. He had the BJII for 3 days and in the end could not fix it.
I took the BJII back to the original guy, I tell you I am a pacifist but I am ready to kill at this point and we almost get into a fight as I was wholly convinced at this point that it was a hardware issue. He refused to send it back to Samsung as he reckoned they would charge me an arm and a leg to fix it as they would know straight away that this was a software flash that went wrong. In the end he said that he could fix it for $80 bucks- given that I wanted this phone and I wanted it working(it is great for messaging) I said fine. Yes he did get it working, but had to install a new logic board(motherboard). Thankfully he also installed WM6.0. I decided to leave well alone this time and just install my apps. I have had the phone back for 2 weeks now and have been using it everyday and have had none of those call or sound issues.
I suspect that there is a serious problem with the 6.1 upgrade and it has nothing to do with application unlocking the phone or any other 3rd party software. No presenting any keys in any combination is going to magically fixed this call issue - so please don't be fooled. My advice if you want it, is to Not upgrade to 6.1 at all. WM 6.1 offers some nice features, but not enough to go through this amount of headache, frustration and money.
Anyway peeps Happy New Year.
And avoid WM6.1.
Smartb
Smartb - I liked the story despite the fact that I cried more than I laughed. Seriously, I couldn't agree more with you. Indeed this 6.1 upgrade is the cause of our pain. I've spent hours doing the same thing you have less the ROM installs.. Mine came with the Rogers 6.1 ROM installed.
I'm at a loss for what to do. My latest venture is to compare registry settings with a HR image and after installing a software that breaks the phone. The software I tested with that always broke the phone was SPB Wireless Monitor..
I could ALMOST live with the issue if SPB Backup worked. But of course, it breaks the phone too!
So far, I've successfully gotten these softwares installed without the phone breaking:
- MS GPSID
- TCPMP + FLV Plugin
- Activesync with Exchange
- Garmin Mobile XT
- Facade 1.4.0
- CHome Configurator
These break the phone:
- SPB Backup
- SPB Wireless Monitor
- SDA Unlock
Any ideas how I could downgrade to WM 6.0? My phone came pre-installed with WM6.1
Dave, I don't think you can because there is no 6.0 rom floating about out there believe me I tried. I spent hours looking for one and couldn't find any. There were other roms for the 607, but I wouldn't risk using those. Sorry Mate.
Smartb.
Rogers is sending me the 6th refurbished Samsung Jack
I am having the same audio problem described here. Hard reset, which is every "tech support agent's" answer to everything, is NOT NECESSARY.
I have popped the battery out and stuck it back in and this has worked, other times it has not.
I have turned the phone off and on again and this has worked, other times it has not.
Rogers is sending me the 6TH REPLACEMENT Refurbished phone I have received, I may ask them to start sending 2 at a time, just to be sure.
They won't allow a hardware switch, they will only replace the phone with the same phone. They will try to get me to take a hardware upgrade though for like $200.00 and make me agree to 3 more years.
I am only hoping that the next refurbished one I receive will have this 6.1 bug fixed.
Here's my take on this...
Had this problem from pretty much day 1 with the i616 from Fido, it would occur randomly and intermittently (I could go 3 weeks without experiencing it). But about 2-3 weeks ago, it seemed to be stuck like this, switched to my nokia phone, called fido and they sent a replacement. In the meatime looked for something to backup the current phone to transfer everything to the replacement. That ended up being sprite backup.
Got new phone, made some calls it worked fine. Backed up old phone with sprite and restored to new phone. New phone now has same problem. Start uninstalling, no joy, eventually wipe clean, try restoring again, same problem, wipe clean, install a few of my apps, works fine for a few days, then same problem. Uninstall all 3rd party apps except SK Tools Standard, audio works again.
Wipe device install only a few apps, working fine, this morning I install sprite backup and audio goes away, uninstall sprite audio comes back...
Next send message to sprite support as follows, we'll see what they have to say, next step would be to backup, then wipe and only install sprite and see if problem reoccurs or whether it's an interaction with one of the apps below.
Samung Jack SGH-i616 (aka BlackJack II) running windows mobile standard 6.1, call audio stops after installing sprite 6.5.4.8. This consistently happens when installed and problem goes away once uninstalled.
It's a manifestation of this problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439620
The following other software is installed on the device.
Webis Flexmail 4.1 beta (bulld 3317)
Webis Pocket Informant 8.52 beta (build 2339)
(note problem occurs with non beta versions of both apps)
Sk Tools Standard 3.3.3.1
Synthesis SyncML Pro 3.0.2.22
Total Commandder/CE 2.51
The rest are the standard apps that ship with the device in rom.
Unicornasaurus said:
I recently just got a Samsung Jack i616 and it had Windows Mobile 6.0 on it. I upgraded it with the official 6.1 upgrade from Rogers, and everything upgraded fine. But when I call someone, or someone calls me I can't hear them and they can't hear me. I know the phone worked before the upgrade, but now I'm not sure as to why it's doing this. I've tried restarting the phone, but nothing has worked. I haven't found anything on Google, so I thought I'd post it in the forum that I know has come up with so many miracles that made my HTC Touch Elf so enjoyable.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
**Update**
Fixed the problem by dialing *2767*3855#
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I didn't use my brain before typing this code. This code effectively hard reset my phone!!! no warnings or anything.
I am repeatedly facing the following problem.
When a call arrives, the contact pops up on the screen almost immediately, but it takes around 5 or 6 rings from the callers end for me to hear the ring on my phone.
Eg. You call me and i will see your name on my screen but it will seem for you as if i picked your call only after 6 rings, but only then my phone rings!! HELP me a lot of people are complaining that i am not picking the call immediately due to this...
Never faced this problem in wm 6.1 or earlier versions.
Somebody kindly assist me
Thanks in advance.
Hi !
I had the same problem. I think it happened when the screen was locked.
It got better after upgrading to a 23001 build.
Which build do you have on your phone?
greetz
Hi flushbeer! Thank you very much for your prompt response! Appreciate it.
I am using [July 4th][PDACorner] Ultimate-X2.V5 -23001|M2D|CHome|Enhanced Version
I even tried TPC Elite prior to that!
And yes u r right i think it happens when screen is locked. Even otherwise i think it happens.
Am using the 23001.x build only!
Thanks again buddy!
Weird... I use the same ROM and this is the FIRST ROM where I don't have this problem.
(I tried many 6.5 ROMs before and with all of them I had this Problem)
greetz
Sorry guys please read the rules, if you have problems post on the threads where you get your ROMs
Mods, please close this thread
sorry guy...
but i don't think this problem ist rom related.
in my opinion it ist build-related and therefore a more or less generic problem.
but it's not my thread anyhow
Hey it aint fair, nobody answers my question anywhere (( If only anyone can answer this.
Maybe it's becoz you are running some software that is not compatible with WM65. Like some builds of MS Voice Command. But you have to sort it out by yourself.
Edit: The way to find problem apps for your ROM:
Backup all your data;
Hard reset;
Install your apps one by one;
Every time after installed a new soft, soft reset, and check the problem occurs or not, if not, install next one, soft reset and check again, until you got the problem occured again.
Then you know it's the last installed app crashes with something. (Maybe not crash with the ROM, but other apps installed before it. To sort this out, you have to change the sequence of cab install and test again. For example, after already know the probs app, hard reset and only install this see what happen.)
What if you did not find it until installed last app? Congratulations, you already solved the problem.
This is the most foolish(time consuming) way, but it works on most cases for probs sorting.
Edit2: BTW, last time when I have similiar probs as yours, by using above-mentioned method, I sorted it out that it was caused by MSVC. (Edit3: Also if my memory is still correct, another badass for WM6.5 maybe the WM6.5 lockscreen,)
What radio are you using? Did you change radios and see if that makes a difference?
I dont know if this is the right way to ask this question, or the ringt place in the forum. I just know ive always found a lot of answers here before and now ive come to a dead end. Ive had a problem with my samsug sgh-i780 for atleast six months that i cant fix. I try to every once in a while, but just end up extremely frustrated and agitated. So, this time the same thing happend again, but i am willing to try and do something productive instead and vent my anger and problem here instead
The problem with the phone is that it refuses to connect to the internet. But only specific programs on the phone. Most of them connects perfectly, both via GPRS and WIFI. The problem is the programs that are from microsoft. They all promply refuse to acknowledge any connection whatsover to the internet.
I use WM 6.1, its not the shipped OS but i've updated it with samsungs official updating rom. So, the programs that refuses are IE, windows marketplace, windows update,the built-in podcasts and rss-reader program, maybe some others.
However, these programs COMPLETELY REFUSES to connect. Almost INSTANTY an alert window with "no connection avaliable. please change your settings or try again." or something similar pops up. Immedietly. Extremely provocing to me, since I know theres both a working gprs and wi-fi connection that ALL the other programs (opera (3 different versions)), coreplayer, etc can use, and do USE flawlessly all of the time. Gah, even writing about it drives me crazy
So anyways. Ive googled this thoroughly on SEVERAL occasions, ive gone through every single internet setting i've found on this mobile phone and changed it back and forth on several occasions, ive searched and searched this forum several times but ive ended up with nothing to guide me in troubleshooting/fixing this and i feel like my next step is throwing it into the wall. Wich wouldnt really SOLVE the problem... but atleast eradicate it
Long post, my bad, ill try and keep it shorter. Just wanted to write it all out, maybe im leaving out important info, feel free to ask me complete your picture if this with whatever you need to know. Maybe someone of you recognizes this problem immedietly and knows what it is and how to fix it. Any way, im happy to recieve any ideas and suggestions you might have.
Thank you in advance,
Malte
The best thing you can do right now is wait until i bring an SGH-780i from my workplace and go through the steps with you I'll have it by tuesday/wednesday.
(that is, because i can't really think of a reason for this to happen unless microsoft has found a way to block unofficial roms from using their applcations (doubtful)).
Awesome! I like the timing of yours; tuesday is my birthday
Will be waiting
/Malte