Builtin GPS receiver and Mapopolis - Touch Pro, Fuze General

I recently evolved from an Eten-500 to the TouchPro. I notice that two of my GPS programs will not properly function on the TP. Specifically, they fail to access the streaming data from the built-in GPS receiver.
As we know, the TP has the builtin GPS assigned to COM4 by default. This is changeable in the Settings menu.
The following GPS programs properly access the builtin GPS:
- PathAway
- MemoryMap
- Turbo IRC
- GPS HTC Tool
- GPS Cycle Computer
The following GPS programs fail to access the builtin GPS:
- SirfTech
- Mapopolis
As a remedy for the failing programs, I am able to have them read GPS data from an external GPS receiver (Holux 236) which is connected to the TP via bluetooth (assigned to COM5). In this case, I can reduce the TP's battery load by turning off the built-in GPS receiver when using Mapopolis. This is done by:
- Settings > System > External GPS
- GPS program port = (None)
- GPS hardware port = (None)
- Baud rate = 4800
- Manage GPS automatically = [x]
Note, SirfTech shows the baud rate at 4800 bit/s when connected to the Holux receiver. Elsewhere in the TP's setting for the GPS receiver, a baud rate of 4800 is also given. So, this seems to be the native rate for the TP.
On a personal note, I love Mapopolis (despite it having become unsupported). It is regretable that it won't access the built-in GPS receiver of the TP. On the up side, my use of an external GPS receiver (like the Holux) will provide stronger receiption and extend the battery life of the TP when used in this configuration.

Built in GPS receiver and Mapopolis
Hi, I have been using Mapopolis for a few years in the UK and Europe and it is a fantastic piece of sotware, the speed of the routing engine has probably never been bettered and it's demise is sad and regrettable. I have the latest maps and can still use it for a few years at least. I am running it on my Diamond at the moment with a Holux M1000B receiver as it will as you say not pick up on the built-in GPS. Is there any way to make it use the built-in GPS or is it impossible?

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TomTom Mobile 5 & Imate SP5

Just recently purchased an Imate SP5 and TT5 Mobile. Both work really well with the Tomtom GPS unit.
I also have a Syson Sirf III unit, and I cannot manage to make it work with TT5. I've tried selecting "other Bluetooth GPS" in Tomtom settings with no luck at all.
Can anybody please help me???
Why don't you want to use the Tomtom GPS?
Don't use Other Bluetooth...
I assume that you know what COM port your GPS is accessible on, and what the speed is (presumably 38400). Use the Serial NMEA selection and then set the appropriate baud rate and choose the port. That usually works more reliably.
Hope this helps!
It's not that I don't want to use tomtom's GPS. I have two cars and I want to have a GPS installed in each car to the cigarrete lighter, so that I don't have to take the GPS unit with me every time (most of the time I forget).
As to NMEA selection, the Tomtom5 version for smartphone only lets you choose Tomtom GPS receive or Other GPS receiver. Period. No "other NMEA GPS" and then select the baud rate like in the PocketPC version.
I think that you can only use one GPS in your mobil phone, cause the first one you have paired is using the incoming com port, and the second one can´t reach that port becouse it is asociated with the first one.
I can´t use 2 identical GPS units in my C500. Only the first one that i have paired works.
..but maybe there is a solution for this.

TomTom disables BlueTooth on exit

Hi,
I use a BlueTrek earpiece (bluetooth) to enable handfree calling with my Qtek9100. I Also use TomTom Navigator.
When TomTom starts it enables the BlueTooth connections (if not allready active). This is usefull since I use a BlueTooth GPS with TomTom.
However, if I exit the TomTom Navigator application it is also disabeling BlueTooth, resulting in loosing the connection with the earpiece.
Does anybody know if this can be changed?
Perhaps a registry key I can change to solve this small, but annoyng, problem.
Gert-Jan
Turn on bluetooth before you start TomTom, then when you quit it should stay on. Does on my xda IIi anyway
The same on my magician. TT5.1 returns BT in the state it was before starting TT. TT5.0 however always shuts down BT on close.
Regards, M
I tested this last week, but came to the sam conclusion.
No matter what the state of BT, TomTom always disables BT on exit.
Gert-Jan
Ditto with my XDA2i running TomTom5 with a Qstarz BT-Q880. Slightly annoying.
However, if I press one of the hard buttons (such as the Contact List button), when the new window is brought up TomTom is minimised. Then, I can Switch (from hfrmobile.com) to Close All - and while this disconnects the GPS device, I've doublechecked and it doesn't disconnect my bluetooth headset, nor does it turn off the Bluetooth itself.
So, that in itself is a quick-and-dirty workaround hack, but I've not come up with any other solution thus far. Currently scouring the registry and the configuration files (what few there are) for a fix - it may be that someone with infinitely more coding ability needs to hack the TomTom .exe to disable this switchoff, though that's no mean feat.
You will probably find that if you reconfigure your GPS reciever in the Tomtom preferances as an "other wired receiver" select an appropriate baud rate, then select a Bluetooth com port, it will still work with a bluetooth GPS receiver but will completely leave your Bluetooth alone.
This does also mean it wont start it automatically if it's not allready on.
That doesn't work - the only way my Qstarz will work is if I configure it as Other Wired NMEA GPS and then run it on Bluetooth COM6, setting the baud rate appropriately (the Qstarz will accept any rate from 4800 to 115500 anyway, so that's rather irrelevant). Even if it's set as other wired GPS, the bluetooth is still disabled upon TT exiting.
This is also the info advised by the TomTom website if you're having problems getting your GPS to run with the software, so I'm guessing it's the only way. I'll have another look round the TT web site when I'm not so pushed for time.
What Tomtom version are you guys using? After a little play with mine I can say that with GPS setup as a bluetooth device. If bluetooth is on when I start Tomtom it stays on after I exit.
I use version 5.2 for Pocket PC
Well, small update - after having TomTom pop up the Bluetooth Manager box every time it starts up, and asking me which device I'd like to use as default, I managed to select the Qstarz Serial Port Connection shortcut which I created (had to manually create the link after setting up the device pairing) - I checked the option to Use this connetion by default, and now TomTom leaves the Bluetooth turned on after it exits!
Smashing stuff, means I can now use my headset and TomTom simultaneously in the car.
This is with TomTom 5.000 (4890) with GPS driver v1.20 and using the Great Britain Plus Map (v571). Bosh!
I get something different on my QTEK S100. When the QTek starts receiving the GPS signal (via bluetooth), TomTom freezes the screen for about 2 seconds and then closes TomTom.
Any ideas about this problem?
Is it because I had "MagicButton" installed? I uninstalled it, did soft reset... but the problem is still there. I can I know if it is MAgicButton doing that?
Thanks
DoubleW

BT GPS with Oziexplorer

I have the P3600i (running WM6 out of the box), and although I can use the internal GPS for both TomTom and OziexplorerCE, when I'm using the external Bluetooth BT-338 GPS, OziexplorerCE does not even show the Outgoing Com port I have for the BT-338, whereas TomTom seems to be able to find that Com port and use it (tested simply by having the BT-338 outside, and using the P3600i inside with no sats visible).
Anyone found a workaround?

configuring tomtom

Hi. I would like to know how I should configure my tomtom on my o2 xda orbit. Under gps status, I have a few choices here, other bluetooth gps receiver, other nmea gps receiver, tomtom bluetooth gps receiver, and tomtom wired gps receiver. I am not sure which one to choose. I chose a random one, and it is showing gps baud rate 4800. I do not know what a baud rate is, and whether or not I have made the right choice. There is also another choice that is confusing me. com4, com9, gps port, com0, com2, and serial port. Thanks.
To find out what settings your Orbit's GPS is using and also to check it works at all, download GPSTest. This will scan your device for it's GPS chip and then attempt to get a fix on available satellites.
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Hi. I would like to know how I should configure my tomtom on my o2 xda orbit. Under gps status, I have a few choices here, other bluetooth gps receiver, other nmea gps receiver, tomtom bluetooth gps receiver, and tomtom wired gps receiver. I am not sure which one to choose. I chose a random one, and it is showing gps baud rate 4800. I do not know what a baud rate is, and whether or not I have made the right choice. There is also another choice that is confusing me. com4, com9, gps port, com0, com2, and serial port. Thanks.
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From memory it was com4: 9600 then stand at the window for a few minutes until it gets a fix. While you are waiting if you go back into the gps settings you should see if any satellites are seen (grey bars) and locked onto (blue bars)
hth
SKYPECAST said:
Hi. I would like to know how I should configure my tomtom on my o2 xda orbit. Under gps status, I have a few choices here, other bluetooth gps receiver, other nmea gps receiver, tomtom bluetooth gps receiver, and tomtom wired gps receiver. I am not sure which one to choose. I chose a random one, and it is showing gps baud rate 4800. I do not know what a baud rate is, and whether or not I have made the right choice. There is also another choice that is confusing me. com4, com9, gps port, com0, com2, and serial port. Thanks.
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Hi,
In your phone settings you should set the External GPS applet to have HW = com8 ; SW = com6
In TomTom choose 'Other NMEA' set baud-rate to 115200, com = 6...
First fix might take some time.
Dirk

[Q] Ext. GPS for Captivate?

Has anyone found an app that will enable an external GPS receiver engine (Delorme) BT-20 interface with my Samsung Captivate? The resident Captivate gps is not usuable.
The Captivate finds the BT-20 via BT bitstream ok. The BT-20 has a 12 channel receiver and meets NMEA 2.0 specs.
Can anyone point me to a gps application program (road map) (or any physical map ) that works in this manner? Note: The Delorme "Street Atlas" with pda/export is Windows based only.
TIA!
Schutzbugel said:
Has anyone found an app that will enable an external GPS receiver engine (Delorme) BT-20 interface with my Samsung Captivate? The resident Captivate gps is not usuable.
The Captivate finds the BT-20 via BT bitstream ok. The BT-20 has a 12 channel receiver and meets NMEA 2.0 specs.
Can anyone point me to a gps application program (road map) (or any physical map ) that works in this manner? Note: The Delorme "Street Atlas" with pda/export is Windows based only.
TIA!
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Search on Market for "Bluetooth GPS Provider"
Thanks
MovieStar,
Using my 2 pieces of hardware (Delorme BT-20 BT receiver and i897 Captivate) I downloaded from Market, "Mobile-j.de". It paired quickly and placed a lat/long cursor at my house using Maps (google) or Latitude. No other features were evident but it worked.
I also tried "BlueTooth gps Mouse" which also worked. Maps, offers the various facility of different map structures ie terrain, contour and roadways, easy search for gas stations, coffee etc., etc. and it all integrates fairly well.
Using a separate gps receiver enables placing it where signal strength is better and BT-ing to the Captivate set where you can utilize its information without distraction. I live in an area where 2g/edge (ATT) is the norm so we'll see how it works away from WIFI broadband.
So thanks MovieStar!

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