Figured I'd post this where some developers might actually see it. Please let me know if anything already exists to do what I'm looking for.
I Just got a new 8525 (USA carrier: Cingular, slightly modified HTC TyTN) and love it so far. BUT there are a couple things I'd love to change...
The FIRST is disabling the flashing notification LEDs, there's two around the front earpiece, the one on the right flashes green for cellular network connectivity and is on solid when charging (orange then green when charged). On the left is one that flashes blue for BT but green for WiFi.
There's already an effort at MoDaCo BUT it also disables vibrate. Need to keep vibrate and ideally would like to keep the ability for the phone to use the LEDs for notifications (voice mail, call missed, etc). Even in my shirt pocket the flashing is always catching my eye.
Next, I'd really like a way to send all audio to a simple BT earphone (i.e. not an AD2P stereo jobbie) for listening to podcasts, audio books, etc unobtrusively. There's something out there called BTAudio, but it doesn't seem to work on this device. When I run it there's noise audible in the earphone, but audio through media player still comes out of the speaker, not the earphone.
Seems this would be useful for all HTCs (and any others?) with slide out keyboards: a way to disable the popup of the onscreen keyboard. An example: I'll open something that requires text entry, the keyboard pops up, I slide the phone open, the onscreen keyboard goes away, I enter stuff into the field then go on to the next one, and the d_mn onscreen keyboard will often popup again, which is very annoying because if covers much of the screen especially in landscape.
--Maybe a way to link disabling the popup to being in landscape?? Would just as soon keep the on-screen button for the keyboard though, with it's notifications for shift and blue dot...
Well, is there any hope?
TheCritic said:
Next, I'd really like a way to send all audio to a simple BT earphone (i.e. not an AD2P stereo jobbie) for listening to podcasts, audio books, etc unobtrusively. There's something out there called BTAudio, but it doesn't seem to work on this device.
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Did you read my related article ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1398&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 )?
Bluetooth Audio is reported to work with the Hermes / TyTN. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278778
BTW, do you want me to relocate the thread to the TyTN forum?
I figure it applies to more then just the TyTN, which is why I put it here. These forums are so segregated now...
I think I FOUND a solution for popup onscreen keyboard annoyance:
http://personales.ya.com/beemer/dow..._WM2003_WM5.zip
you don't need any new soft to disable popup keyboard. first of all, it disappears the moment you start typing with slideout one, and stays gone until you manually activate it. another thing, also found here without any effort tells you about a registry tweak to disable it permamently. search.
banannq said:
you don't need any new soft to disable popup keyboard. first of all, it disappears the moment you start typing with slideout one, and stays gone until you manually activate it. another thing, also found here without any effort tells you about a registry tweak to disable it permamently. search.
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Yeah, the popup goes away, then pops back up as soon as you move to the next field, possibly covering it, then goes away when you type, then comes up again next field... Especially annoying with the gmail midlet (which has problems of its own relating to selecting fields in the first place).
Would appreciate a link for the registry tweak, haven't seen it in any of the Hermes/TyTN tweaking threads, and there doesn't seem to be a way to set nullKB to be the default.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=918794#post918794
try this out for the sip problems... personally don't know how it does, as im fine with ignoring the virtual keyboard;]
I'll have to try that, thanks Banannq.
So I came up with a few more things I'd like a way to do or would be eager to help somebody beta test
The first two relate to being able to unlock and show off the phone to friends and co-workers while keeping some things private...
1: Except maybe for replying to an SMS I really would like a way to make it so I have to enter a password to run the messages/email program, or even better to enter certain folders within it. Love the way Hotmail works on the PPC, but without some way to keep my private email private I just can't use it.
2: Ability to set a default filter in contacts, for example I'd use the 'no categories' filter, but others have many other uses for this. Not sure if I'd want it to apply to quick dialing or caller ID in the phone app, but an option for that too would be nice.
This is just a general one I've heard many ask for:
3: The ability to set the Calendar application's default opening view, for me it'd be 'month'.
Any of these things possible? Anybody else have some small changes/options they'd love to see added?
Hi guyz,
Googled it with no real solution, nobody in the Touch Pro forum seem to have it either.
Is there any way to disable waking my ppc or at least lock the touch panel on notifications like low battery, appointments etc. Message notification is easy to disable, Answerkeys Disabler works like charm when it comes to incoming calls but I want to disable waking up the device on any notification and have only audible alerts.
Often when in pocket or case my TP wakes on low battery or appointment reminder and starts random dialing, texting, etc. which is getting annoing.
Thanks in advance,
dEM
there may be a registry key you can delete so that you don't get notifications at all.... i'm not real sure about which ones though. i'll look around.
EDIT: SHNotificationRemove at msndn :
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa455968.aspx
Good question,hope someone has an answer
how about usin s2u2? doesnt solve it exactly but maybe a workaround?
There are some locking solutions over there. I'm looking for one that doesn't lock my device all the time but only on these notifications. The best will be if it doesn't even wakes up.
Just great! More than a month I've been trying to find a solution to this problem with no success!
Hi,i hope this keeps the thread alive,i would also like to know if its possible and how
Me Too!
I have this exact same problem. When a reminder alerts me on the phone it wakes up the unit and turns the display on. If this stays in my holder it just keeps the phone on because it senses all the pushing... We have a PIN enable so it won't do anything major. But there are times I've pulled out my phone to find it awake (on) and there are * in the password field - so I know it is sensing touches when in the holder. This definitely drains the battery.
HELP PLEASE! Any Fix found?
I'm having this problem as well - anybody out there got any ideas...?
I hate how there seems to be no solution to this! It didn't happen to me in WM6.1, so it must be buried within 6.5 in some dark, fetid, unreachable place :-(
I keep accidentally dialing people with my bum when one of my reminders goes off. Grr!
EDIT: I did finally cave and install a slide to unlock feature (S2U2) which I got from http://a2-s2.com. I was surprised with the level of customization you can do with this program, and I do love how I can have the slider's wallpaper change randomly, so I am greeted with a different image each time I unlock the phone. I know it's not what any of us were looking for, but it's a workable solution for now.
I've since gotten round this by using PocketShield - works well for me. Doesn't work well with the PIN lock though....
I'm using Smartlock for locking the screen; incoming call and stand return from suspend.
It has an option "suspend after lock".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032
disable wake on notification
finally figured it out, a few years later.
still can't find a factory setting for it, but i downloaded NILS (notification lock screen) and it gives you the option to disable wake on notification. hope it helps
Is the turn by turn working properly for you guys? If i want directions read to me, i have to tap the screen. Just wondering if this is like this for everyone, if so it must just be part of the beta. or maybe it's has something to do with the fact that i'm in canada...
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Is the turn by turn working properly for you guys? If i want directions read to me, i have to tap the screen. Just wondering if this is like this for everyone, if so it must just be part of the beta. or maybe it's has something to do with the fact that i'm in canada...
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That's how it works. It does not automatically read to you. You tap anywhere on the screen to have it talk. An different implementation.
well that's kinda silly in my opinion, why would they do that? I noticed my screen also times out during navigation, and when i turn it back on it has to reacquire a gps lock...
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well that's kinda silly in my opinion, why would they do that? I noticed my screen also times out during navigation, and when i turn it back on it has to reacquire a gps lock...
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Dunno. In some regards, it probably makes sense. I use a Garmin for normal GPS navigation, and really, i'm terribly annoyed every time it has to talk. Especially when it repeats itself over and over (such as "recalculating"). The fact that I simply tap the screen and the phone will tell me directions when I need to hear it is rather useful to me. Also the phone doesn't automatically recalculate, which I think makes the most sense. When I drive, and I accidentally go off course, I dont need my GPS to recalculate every 5 seconds. I need to slow down, get my bearings, and then have it recalculate. Because I tell the phone when it recalculate, its not yelling at me every 5 seconds that its recalculating. In other words, I have more control over the GPS this way.
At the same time, I do see the value in automatic direction narration and automatic recalculation. It would have been nice to be able to choose between the two.
Ah. My only real beef with Mango. While not too terribly offputting, I'm wondering if MS was trying to be too different here.
I don't use GPS at all as I'm mostly in Dallas and know my way around the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex. But, I do travel from time to time and GPS can come in handy. That being said, the design choices here seem a wee bit weird.
You tap it to get voice and it only notifies you if you've made a correct or incorrect turn. By that time, it's too late. And, you have to turn around. Now, you don't have to look at he screen as you can tap while watching the road. So, it's not as if it's any less safe but... really?
Edit: Reading prjk's post above, I guess if MS revealed the reason behind this particular design choice, it might more sense for all of us.
Yea it still kinda sucks compared to....
It is very weak, compared to every real navigation system in existence. Not having the option to have the instructions automatically read to you, and not providing any kind of audible warning when you approach a turn, and not automatically rerouting you when you miss a turn, all combine to make the system almost useless.
I'll either be keeping AT&T Navigator, or switching to T-B-T from GPS Tuner if they ever get all of the kinks worked out of their system.
Most people use this thing called a radio when they're driving, or they're having conversations in the car, and I think this approach works perfect during those situations. My car has a built in navigation which automatically lowers the radio and then gives my the direction, but the phone, unfortunatelly, can't do that... So it's best if, when you need the direction, you put the radio down, just randomly tap, and have the kind woman give you the information rather than missing it or it interrupting you... Just my opinion though.
FiyaFleye said:
Most people use this thing called a radio when they're driving, or they're having conversations in the car, and I think this approach works perfect during those situations. My car has a built in navigation which automatically lowers the radio and then gives my the direction, but the phone, unfortunatelly, can't do that... So it's best if, when you need the direction, you put the radio down, just randomly tap, and have the kind woman give you the information rather than missing it or it interrupting you... Just my opinion though.
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Another great example. I always have my music blasting in the car so I can't hear the directions anyway. With this method, I can pause the music, tap the screen to hear my directions, and resume my music. I'm not trying to hear directions over my music, or having to bend to the will of the GPS and have it tell me what to do when it wants to.
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Another great example. I always have my music blasting in the car so I can't hear the directions anyway. With this method, I can pause the music, tap the screen to hear my directions, and resume my music. I'm not trying to hear directions over my music, or having to bend to the will of the GPS and have it tell me what to do when it wants to.
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I'm definitely not trying to rain on anybody's parade here, but there isn't a person here (unless they're a complete weirdo) who can tell me they haven't been annoyed at the GPS interrupting them. Or at missing the directions, and having to struggle to find them. The phone DOES make a noise when a correct turn was taken, and a different one for an incorrect turn, so it does alert you to some degree, but I like the power being in your hands...
I'm sorry guys, but you're really reaching here, and I don't see why you are being so zealous about it.
First of all, the app telling you that you made a correct or incorrect turn after the fact serves no purpose at all. If you are in an unfamiliar area, you need the app to alert you that the turn is coming up, or you are very likely to miss it.
Second, it's kind of insulting to imply that anyone who has a different opinion is a "weirdo".
Third, most people prefer to keep their eyes on the road when they're driving, not fish around for their phone so they can check to see if they are still on course. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the anti-texting laws in some areas might also cover the kind of distracted driving that Microsoft's implementation might cause.
And fourth, we're talking about an option here, not forcing you to join our weirdo brigade. You want to be forced to find your phone, unlock it, and tap the screen to get your next instruction (while potentially driving in congested traffic in an area you don't know)? Fine. I don't. I want the Mango app to behave the same way every other professionally designed GPS navigation system currently available does.
Uh... Do you know what an opinion is? A navigation device interrupting isn't an opinion, but nice try though... I really apologize that my actual opinion is "reaching" for you... I like it, if you don't, sucks, never told you that you should feel the way I do
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I'm sorry guys, but you're really reaching here, and I don't see why you are being so zealous about it.
First of all, the app telling you that you made a correct or incorrect turn after the fact serves no purpose at all. If you are in an unfamiliar area, you need the app to alert you that the turn is coming up, or you are very likely to miss it.
Second, it's kind of insulting to imply that anyone who has a different opinion is a "weirdo".
Third, most people prefer to keep their eyes on the road when they're driving, not fish around for their phone so they can check to see if they are still on course. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the anti-texting laws in some areas might also cover the kind of distracted driving that Microsoft's implementation might cause.
And fourth, we're talking about an option here, not forcing you to join our weirdo brigade. You want to be forced to find your phone, unlock it, and tap the screen to get your next instruction (while potentially driving in congested traffic in an area you don't know)? Fine. I don't. I want the Mango app to behave the same way every other professionally designed GPS navigation system currently available does.
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Not being zealous, but seeing it from both perspectives. They both make sense just fine. Course some people prefer one over the other, and that's perfectly fine too.
IMO, any device whether its your regular Garmin GPS or your Windows Phone device is possible cause for distracted driving. And obviously not understanding or knowing how to use said devices is even more cause for distracted driving.
I'm not sure how you use your GPS devices, but I certainly don't fumble around in my car so it can tell me directions. That sounds like a cause for distracted driving no matter what device you are using. Haha. I would have my phone mounted and already set to navigate. Then when directions are necessary, you just tap on the screen. You tap anywhere on the screen. So you don't even have to look at your phone to hunt for a specific repeat button or something, and that eliminates the need to turn away from the road as well. You would be no more distracted than if you were to have to look at your map on your good old Garmin GPS, or have to tap your Garmin to have it repeat directions that you missed because your music was too loud or because you just weren't paying attention to it. The sounds indicate whether I made my turn or not, then I just tap anywhere on my phone again when I'm ready for the next set of directions. If I go off course, my phone also won't repeatedly yell "recalculating" at me every couple seconds while I try to get back on the right track. I can tell it to recalculate and resume when I'm ready to get back on course.
Its not perfect, and certainly its not for everyone, but for those who like a little more control over their GPS experience, and a little less annoyance, it makes sense.
Has a propper driving 3d mode been implemented yet? kida seems pointless what they have implemented here to be honest. Hopefully the nokia driving app will be available on the store once they sort themselves out and release a phone for wp7.
edit. Acording to an article i read earlier nokia apps will be available for every wp7 phone, but most likely not ovi maps or navigation, those are being reserved for the nokia handsets.
I think we can all agree that having the directions automatically read to you would be a good *option*, even if it's not enabled by default. I only use the GPS when I have no idea where I'm going, so I need something that tells me how far a turn is, then reminds me as I'm approaching, then tells me that I need to turn now.
The old bing app on WM6.5 worked remarkably well. I wish the WP7 navigation could be configured to function like that. Yes it did talk A LOT and got annoying at times if someone else is in the car, but to have tapping the screen constantly be your only choice for being read directions is even more annoying especially if you are in unfamiliar territory.
Aside from that, I'd also like the option to have it automatically recalculate directions when you make a wrong turn. I can't think of an instance of where I'd miss a turn, then not want it to tell me how to get back on track.
To give the navigation some credit though, I use the Zune software for my music when I'm in the car, and it does pause the music when saying something and then resume it after, which is nice.
I used the gps nav for the first time last night and I must say they have some work to do.
I get what some are saying about it's nice not to be interrupted, but last night I needed to know my directions as they were coming up. Make it an option to not automatically read aloud for those that like that. Currently I wouldnt call this turn by turn voice navigation. Most gps units have the ability of getting details or just the bare minimum as far as guidance goes.
Second thing that really annoys me is the layout of buttons. when you are in the directions mode, and then go to the large map, it's annoying to go back to the directions view. Clicking the directions button brings up the new directions field. Also when in large mode, why can't i get voice guidance.
Lack of landscape mode is annoying as well and seems more like a forgotten feature than anything, there's no reason not to have it since metro isn't in use
There also needs to be the option to allow gps to track you if you have to leave the application to do something else. It takes to long, even though it's pretty fast, to re-aquire the satelites.
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Aside from that, I'd also like the option to have it automatically recalculate directions when you make a wrong turn. I can't think of an instance of where I'd miss a turn, then not want it to tell me how to get back on track.
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I can. If you are driving in a city or very populated area with tiny blocks and roads everywhere. If you miss just one turn, then your GPS starts recalculating for you. It'll tell you to take the next right, but it doesn't recalculate in time because the blocks are so small and the next turn is so close, so by the time its telling you to make the next turn to get back on track, you've missed it. Then GPS has to recalculate again, and you miss your next turn again, and this repeats over and over, along with your GPS yelling "recalculate" "take the next right" over and over again.
This is where I think I'll enjoy the manual recalculation the most. If I miss the turn, I simply wait until I know I can respond properly to the next turn direction, maybe on a longer stretch of road, or maybe I can simply stop or slow down somewhere, then have the phone recalculate once, and get right back on track.
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Not being zealous, but seeing it from both perspectives. They both make sense just fine. Course some people prefer one over the other, and that's perfectly fine too.
IMO, any device whether its your regular Garmin GPS or your Windows Phone device is possible cause for distracted driving. And obviously not understanding or knowing how to use said devices is even more cause for distracted driving.
I'm not sure how you use your GPS devices, but I certainly don't fumble around in my car so it can tell me directions. That sounds like a cause for distracted driving no matter what device you are using. Haha. I would have my phone mounted and already set to navigate. Then when directions are necessary, you just tap on the screen. You tap anywhere on the screen. So you don't even have to look at your phone to hunt for a specific repeat button or something, and that eliminates the need to turn away from the road as well. You would be no more distracted than if you were to have to look at your map on your good old Garmin GPS, or have to tap your Garmin to have it repeat directions that you missed because your music was too loud or because you just weren't paying attention to it. The sounds indicate whether I made my turn or not, then I just tap anywhere on my phone again when I'm ready for the next set of directions. If I go off course, my phone also won't repeatedly yell "recalculating" at me every couple seconds while I try to get back on the right track. I can tell it to recalculate and resume when I'm ready to get back on course.
Its not perfect, and certainly its not for everyone, but for those who like a little more control over their GPS experience, and a little less annoyance, it makes sense.
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I don't understand how tapping the screen is a good feature? If your voice navigation doesn't tell you to make a turn ahead of time, then that makes the navigation useless...If you're in an unfamiliar area, how are you supposed to know when to tap?
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I don't understand how tapping the screen is a good feature? If your voice navigation doesn't tell you to make a turn ahead of time, then that makes the navigation useless...If you're in an unfamiliar area, how are you supposed to know when to tap?
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That'e easy. Anytime is a good time to tap if you are in an unfamiliar area. That's the point of manually controlling when you need (or do not) need directions. You choose when you want your phone to tell you where to go. Then once you've started, the phone makes a sound when you are on track, just tap again right after the sound when you are ready for the next set of directions.