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WM6.1 for HTC S720/5800/Fusion/Libra/Boss

I am on Telecom NZ and have a Okta Boss, which is the HTC 5800/Libra/S720 etc. Which is CDMA/EVDO.
It's WM6.0 smartphone
Why is there no dedicated thread to this HTC phone in the smartphone area?
Would I be successful in using the VOX WM6.1 rom on this device?
How can I get into the bootloader to backup the current ROM, I tried using Power+Camera but it still boots into the phone.

I basicly want to know the same thing :-/

How many times it has to be sayed ... ROM for some device is only for this device. It won't work on any other device so ROM for Vox is only for Vox and it won't work on other devices

Man, your topic got me excited there for a second since I'm on VZW with a 5800. I'd love to see somebody out there create a ROM for our phones with 6.1 on it.

to be 100% honest, i dont think many people care about the CDMA versions, its really because CDMA providers are all garbage and lock everything down

pr5owner said:
to be 100% honest, i dont think many people care about the CDMA versions, its really because CDMA providers are all garbage and lock everything down
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Wow, aren't we being just a little harsh? Some of us in the US at least stick to the CDMA carriers since they, ya know, tend to have a lot better coverage area. The whole major aspect of owning a cell phone.

I think its not fair, The members on here are making ROMs for the S710 which is a hell alot older then the S720. Who cares what type of phone it is. All people want (Including ME) is Windows Mobile 6.1. Its not that big of a request.

pr5owner said:
to be 100% honest, i dont think many people care about the CDMA versions, its really because CDMA providers are all garbage and lock everything down
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About that comment, Its funny, Becuase the HTC S720/Libra made it into the top 25 most popuular Smart Phones. And has stayed there since its release. If anything, I think that all the ROM hackers/makers should stop making ROMs for the S710, Which is a much older and crapper phone (No Offence) and start making ROMs for the newer and better ones.

the S710 was replaced by the S730 a long time ago, the S730 blows away the 720, and yes the ppl like CDMA because of coverage not becuase of what phones the provider has.
but im in a major city where coverage with GSM is actaully better than CDMA, and the CDMA phones we have here are all total crap. the rom that comes with the telus S720 is the worst windows OEM rom ive ever seen. its slow, its HIGHLY unreliable, it requires resets near daily also it doesnt even have MMS capability. telus for some stupid reason didnt include the arcsoft client.
this is why i say not very many people care about it, it CHEAPER and easier to get a PDA phone and just throw in a sim card.
also im waiting for a rom for the S720 as well but i know it will never come, i need a super lite rom with no telus crap on it so the phone will actaully function properly. as you can tell i support them at work.

pr5owner said:
the S710 was replaced by the S730 a long time ago, the S730 blows away the 720, and yes the ppl like CDMA because of coverage not becuase of what phones the provider has.
but im in a major city where coverage with GSM is actaully better than CDMA, and the CDMA phones we have here are all total crap. the rom that comes with the telus S720 is the worst windows OEM rom ive ever seen. its slow, its HIGHLY unreliable, it requires resets near daily also it doesnt even have MMS capability. telus for some stupid reason didnt include the arcsoft client.
this is why i say not very many people care about it, it CHEAPER and easier to get a PDA phone and just throw in a sim card.
also im waiting for a rom for the S720 as well but i know it will never come, i need a super lite rom with no telus crap on it so the phone will actaully function properly. as you can tell i support them at work.
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Finally Telus/HTC releases the Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM update for Telus S720 (Libra)
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=79&cat=2&dl_id=106
As per the site:
HTC S720 (TELUS) Update - Version 3.03.661.2
Adds EVDO Rev. A capability for faster download and upload speeds*
Upgrades to Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Improves overall device functionality and stability
Adds new shortcuts for easy access to TELUS mobile email, TELUS navigator, Pocket Express applications

belgarionr said:
Finally Telus/HTC releases the Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM update for Telus S720 (Libra)
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=79&cat=2&dl_id=106
As per the site:
HTC S720 (TELUS) Update - Version 3.03.661.2
Adds EVDO Rev. A capability for faster download and upload speeds*
Upgrades to Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Improves overall device functionality and stability
Adds new shortcuts for easy access to TELUS mobile email, TELUS navigator, Pocket Express applications
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Will this work on verizons version smt5800 ?

belgarionr said:
Finally Telus/HTC releases the Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM update for Telus S720 (Libra)
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=79&cat=2&dl_id=106
As per the site:
HTC S720 (TELUS) Update - Version 3.03.661.2
Adds EVDO Rev. A capability for faster download and upload speeds*
Upgrades to Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Improves overall device functionality and stability
Adds new shortcuts for easy access to TELUS mobile email, TELUS navigator, Pocket Express applications
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Will they Provide ROM update for HTC S720 Reliance in India?
Is there any way to install Telus ROM for my Reliance s720. I tried and got error INVALID VENDER ID.

We Need an Unlocker
We need an unlocker for the bootloader, so we can load custom ROMs, and kitchens,
I have a Verizon SMT5800, and I'm stuck on WM 6.0 until someone does.

skank_boy said:
We need an unlocker for the bootloader, so we can load custom ROMs, and kitchens,
I have a Verizon SMT5800, and I'm stuck on WM 6.0 until someone does.
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Any update?

For those still interested, there is an update to 6.1 for Verizon's SMT-5800 available at http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=81&cid=1&mid=292&carrier=Verizon Wireless

This is a little bit old, but I'm in a bit of a bind - I have a Telus S720 that I haven't used in ages, and I'd REALLY REALLY REALLY like to use WM6.1 on it. The thing that pains me is that the update exists, and Telus are happy to give it to me - but they link to HTC's site for the download, and HTC (being the most customer-friendly company ever) have removed all their old phones from their website, including support links.
Thanks, HTC!
If someone has a copy of the Telus S270 ROM update to WM6.1, I'd REALLY like to get my hands on it.

ATT Fuze ROM Questions

All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob

robroy90 said:
All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob
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why dont you just flash a new rom to it?
internet sharing is there you just have to open from file explorer
and the NA touch pro will be available after the fuze with 3G

I thought about that...
Ok, I had considered that, but if I do flash a ROM, which one?
If I flash it, will it have the appropriate application/registry entries to support the bands for proper 3G operation here in the States?
GRRRRR.... why do they pull this crap? Apparently it is too much to ask to get a true "world" phone with all the bands in hardware and software!
-Rob

well i work for at&t and i was given the fuze as a demo device about a month ago and have since decided to keep it (kind of a nice thing). you can do what i just did to mine. I flashed it with HTC firmware, then flashed the at&t radio's onto it. I was also given a link to a cab file that switches the keyboard to the at&t layout (my only gripe change).
The onlything i see intresting is the Fuze's we got in last week, when i booted one up and played with it for a customer, i noticed they have a 1.95 SPL they are shipping with. wonder if that will effect flashing to the unsigned spl. And i will say, They didnt trim much out from original software, however they gave it the good ole' at&t bloatware.

waterhurley said:
well i work for at&t and i was given the fuze as a demo device about a month ago and have since decided to keep it (kind of a nice thing). you can do what i just did to mine. I flashed it with HTC firmware, then flashed the at&t radio's onto it. I was also given a link to a cab file that switches the keyboard to the at&t layout (my only gripe change).
The onlything i see intresting is the Fuze's we got in last week, when i booted one up and played with it for a customer, i noticed they have a 1.95 SPL they are shipping with. wonder if that will effect flashing to the unsigned spl. And i will say, They didnt trim much out from original software, however they gave it the good ole' at&t bloatware.
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your store got multiple fuzes in??
and heres a question about bloatware on the fuze
with my 8525 whenever i hard reset i let it do the first customization to set the device up but i soft reset when it begins the 2nd since that is when att crap is loaded. does the fuze have a similar setup? or all at once

lbhocky19 said:
your store got multiple fuzes in??
and heres a question about bloatware on the fuze
with my 8525 whenever i hard reset i let it do the first customization to set the device up but i soft reset when it begins the 2nd since that is when att crap is loaded. does the fuze have a similar setup? or all at once
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All the configuration is done during one customization screen. A soft reset to kill the bloat must be done before you see the "3...2...1..." countdown.

NotATreoFan said:
All the configuration is done during one customization screen. A soft reset to kill the bloat must be done before you see the "3...2...1..." countdown.
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thank you
now with my 8525 i found if i cancelled the first one it messed up stuff and the phone didnt work right
if i cancel it on the fuze does everything still work and simply get rid of the att crap?

robroy90 said:
All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob
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Rob-
I bought my Fuze off eBay so I can't swear that it is the same version as what will ship but I'm pretty sure that it is.
On mine, you can check or uncheck "use proxy server" in the Media Net settings just like on your Tilt. Also, mine DOES include the Internet Sharing. I haven't had a chance to test it out yet, but since it's there I'm guessing it works.

Internet Sharing is in the official AT&T ROM. As a matter of fact, when you connect the USB cable, you get 2 choices: Activesync or Internet Sharing. No Wireless Modem crap on the Fuze.

lbhocky19 said:
why dont you just flash a new rom to it?
internet sharing is there you just have to open from file explorer
and the NA touch pro will be available after the fuze with 3G
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Where did you find out that there will be a NA Touch Pro after the Fuze is released?

GPRS Settings For ATT Fuze on Tmobile UK

Hi all,
Have a ATT fuze that am using in UK on T-mobile and although the GPRS connection is active, I cannot browse at all. Gives me a network error? What am I missing? I have NATF V 2.2 Rom running that I installed yesterday (Quite chuffed about that since I was a flashing rom virgin!). I used to have a Palm treo 680, so I just swapped my sim over.
Help and thanks!

I have also changed the proxy settings in Opera as per one of the posts and still nothing! I would appreciate your help as I am lost...

Bump! I have tried searching for this but am not getting anywhere!

Tilt vs G1

I have recently switched from AT&T to T-Mobile... I have a Tilt w/ HardSpl 3.29. It is Sim and CID unlocked and I have flashed a few different ROMs and currently have Dutty's 3.5 on it. The only problem is that AT&T uses 2100 mhz and T-Mobile uses 2100mhz and 1700Mhz so i can only use edge for data. Does anyone have any opinions on the G1 and how it would stack up against this Tilt. I like WinMO and feel like i am getting more proficient with modding it. Is there going to be alot of things that the Tilt will do that the G1 will not be capable of? or vice versa?... Thanx for any thoughts... 1st Post so bear with me....
Phone: AT&T Tilt
Carrier: T-Mobile
Sim-CID unlocked
HardSpl 3.29
Rom: Dutty's 3.5

JaceNSteale said:
I have recently switched from AT&T to T-Mobile... I have a Tilt w/ HardSpl 3.29. It is Sim and CID unlocked and I have flashed a few different ROMs and currently have Dutty's 3.5 on it. The only problem is that AT&T uses 2100 mhz and T-Mobile uses 2100mhz and 1700Mhz so i can only use edge for data. Does anyone have any opinions on the G1 and how it would stack up against this Tilt. I like WinMO and feel like i am getting more proficient with modding it. Is there going to be alot of things that the Tilt will do that the G1 will not be capable of? or vice versa?... Thanx for any thoughts... 1st Post so bear with me....
Phone: AT&T Tilt
Carrier: T-Mobile
Sim-CID unlocked
HardSpl 3.29
Rom: Dutty's 3.5
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Welcome to the forum
My vote goes for Tilt because WM is a more mature OS than Android, perhaps in the future will be a good OS but by now I´ll stick to WM

Hands down the Tilt with WM, but no 3G. I find the tmob edge speeds & battery usage very good. I'm looking at the TP2 w/3G when it comes to tmob usa Jul 22nd!

btw what is soooooooooooooo good about andriod other than it is not by MS? heee

I've used the tilt, and by now I have to say I like the G1 a lot more. There's no lag that accompanies WM, and it's just been a great experience with Android. Especially now with all the great ROMs being cooked, plenty of apps to choose from in Market, and overall awesomeness + ease of use.

Thanx for the input so far.... its not that android is so good just that Tmobile doesn't have any other PPc's from HTC that run on win mo and i thought i would get a lot better speed with the 3g... I hadn't considered the Battery!!! I tried a Touch Pro w/Sprint for a few weeks before going to tmobile but it was impossible to lock the screen... it would wake up for every voice, text, or email message or if the key board was opened even a little... the phone ended up have many apps running all the time and it killed the battery... i had to charge it 3,4 times a day... HTC told me the HTC branded phone didn't do it.... the Sprint and verizon version both have this flaw... Sprint repair center told nothing they could do.... i had one the first week they came out.... i don't know if they have jumped on that yet...

I'd go with the Tilt, but it's close.
I've got a Tilt, and my son got a G1 about 2 months ago.
His hardware seems snappier to launch apps and in screen transitions. The integration of apps on Android is pretty cool as well. Infomation from one app is easily shared with other apps in the platform. There are WM apps that do this, Live search, and SPBMS3 come to mind, but in Android it feels seamless. the Google maps experience of street view on the G1 is also quite cool and uniquie to that device.
What WM (Tilt) has over Android, and someone above mentioned as well, is maturity and breadth of app (and mod) availability. With mostly free apps, my Tilt can do just about every cool thing the G1 can do, and more. If you like the Android look, Throttle Launcher can give that to you. The availability of apps for WM is many multiples of what is out there for Android (so far).
I will say that network speed definitly pushes me toward the Tilt. That is one area that he and I have done head to head comparisons. I'm on att, and my HSDPA, available even at my rural home, blows Tmob edge out of the water. If I had to go back to that, I'd be a lot less happy with any device.
I hope this helps

almost just for the face of 3g i would go with the G1 , my girlfriend has one and from experience i can say its a pretty great phone !

Telstra TP2 questions

Hey guys,
I recently got a Telstra TP2 on a new contract, but I can't stand what they've done to the ROM. For those who don't know, Telstra have added 4 extra tabs on TF3D (downloads, telstra applications, tv, news and sport) which can't be removed or turned off, and they've put 12 locked (unremovable) program shortcuts on the start menu.
As I'm in a rural area, I need the 850 band the Telstra version of the phone supplies, and I'm worried that flashing a new cooked rom will lose this functionality (I'm very new to this). As it is, the shipped version of the Telstra rom isn't found on this site through the wiki (version 1.19.841.3 (51489) wwe), so I'm scared that I'll lose it forever and won't be able to put it back on if something goes squirly.
Is there anyway I can get around this besides flashing a cooked rom, and possibly losing the shipped rom forever?
Also, have any other telstra users been able to use HDWall on the phone to replace the crappy blue telstra background throughout the device?
Many thanks,
Tim

Welcome to forums
Have a look on Rhodium ROM development and choose another ROM!
Good luck,

Thanks for the welcome
I've had a look around, making some heads and tails of it, but I really need to know if I'm going to lose my 850 band with Telstra if I flash another cooked rom without all this Telstra garbage on it.

No you wont
850 is a hardware stuff related and you cant change it with any ROM, so you can install
Just have a deep read on the how to section in rhodium rom development
Enjoy,

Hi there, me again.
I was at the Windows 7/Windows Phone pre-launch in Melbourne on Tuesday, and picked the brains of the Microsoft employees manning the Windows Phone booth showing off Winmo 6.5 on the TP2 and D2. One of the first things I was asked during the conversation was if I had already flashed 6.5 on my phone, which I was surprised about. I mentioned my reservations about losing the 850mhz band with Telstra NextG, and the employee told me that the support for the band is built into Telstra's crappy ROM, and would be lost if flashed with anything else.
Are they yanking my chain or what?

I would like to know this too.
I`ve changed my ROM twice, saved my original one.. and I`ve finally encountered a connectivity issue...
Perhaps it`s my using a Telstra, Unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 with an Athine ROM (though it really doesn`t make any difference what ROM I use... Maybe) on my Rogers BlackBerry Internet plan.
But I`ve used the Sony Ericsson Xperia on it and a few weeks prior to this date, have had no problem surfing the internet.
It MAY be the fact that Rogers is having problems with their network in downtown Toronto, so I`m hoping it`s not my TP2...
In any case, I`m using HDWalls on my phone.. but I`m just (un)installing the individual walls as I go along.
There`s something wrong with my computer that I have to fix because I cannot install the items necessary to use HDsWalls on the phone, and on the computer.
But so far, it`s been the best.
Although, I just have to say.. if you don`t have anything like "background for all" sort of cab files on the phone, I believe;
1) The phone runs faster
2) The background quality is crisper/better
Took me 2 weeks for me to get my Telstra Touch Pro 2 from Australia to Canada, and it was worth it.
I BELIEVE just changing the ROM will do nothing to the radio.
Moving into radio talk, I was wondering if I updated my Telstra phone with the latest AT&T radio build, because the hardware is for 850mhz and so is the build...
Will it enhance my connectivity?
Does anyone have any expertise on this and help shed some light?