It was a half year ago (see review HERE) that Microsoft released the first beta of their VoIP / video phone / SIP program Microsoft Portrait. Microsoft has, in the meantime, released version 3.1.
I was very eager to check it out as 3.0 didn’t support front cameras on any Pocket PC’s, which would be essential for TCP/IP-based video phoning.
To make a long story short, unfortunately, the new version doesn’t support video phoning using front cameras either. It still only lists CAM1: (the rear camera) on all my Pocket PC models with two built-in cameras: the HTC Universal and the HTC Trinity (p3600). This is certainly bad news.
Furthermore, as far as the MS Smartphone compliance is concerned, it didn’t work on either the WM6 QVGA HTC Vox (s710) or the WM5 AKU3 HTC Oxygen (s310). On the former, it just displayed the “Initialize Portrait control failed” and, then, the “Get camera resolutions failed” info messages; on the latter, nothing has happened at all. Both phones are SIM / app unlocked and I’ve tried making Portrait work on them several times (yes, after resetting too).
All in all, it’s still useless for video phoning over traditional TCP/IP. Only get it if you only need it for voice / textual communication on Pocket PC's only (again, it seems it's completely incompatible with MS Smartphones, regardless what the product page states.)
I'm using WM6 on a wizard and am happy to report it did work for me. Pretty fantastic actually. True, the camera is on the back and it's upside down, but it's good enough. I can finally check "video chat from my PPC" off the list!
is it really chat when you can see the other person at the same time as they can see you ?
and is the grps of wizard fast enough to use it prob?
i have an HTC Touch Diamond. And tried this with my MSN. But my contact list was empty. and when i called myself from pc it gave error about my msn version.
With a wireless connection this software can be great. Also it did not use my 3G camera and when i checked in cameras section there is only one option named CAM1.
Anyone else tried?
Tried this on a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul) and it does work for me either with the same results as the previous poster. Any one have this working anymore?
Guys and gals, sorry for not re-editing the entire article so that I can incorporate the update into the main body of the article. Hope it’ll be still be understandable.
UPDATE (10/02/2007): there is an even better, easier-to-install and, what is more, even MS Smartphone (Windows Mobile Standard)-compatible hack. Just download the CAB file linked from THIS post (I’ve also mirrored it HERE, just to be on the safe side, should you not want to register at XDA-Dev to access the download), install it (by simply clicking it on your handheld), power down your device (if it’s a Pocket PC – in order to make sure the Registry changes are all flushed) and restart it.
This hack will add full BT DUN to both platforms. I’ve thoroughly tested it on both my WM6 HTC Universal (a Pocket PC) and WM6 HTC s710 / Vox (a Smartphone) and found it excellent. Note that the traditional, BT PAN-based Internet Sharing will still work alongside with the added BT DUN (tested on both devices).
Note that it has a minor annoyance. After you terminate the connection, you will still be unable to access the Net on the Pocket PC or Smartphone that you used as a modem (also see THIS and THIS for similar bug reports). The solution to this is pretty simple: instead of (lengthy and/or awkward) soft resetting your handheld, just make sure you tap either the data connection icon in Comm Manager (this seem to be sufficient with Smartphones) or, as with, it seems, with Pocket PC’s (like the Universal), just dis- and, then, re-enable the phone connection itself (or, alternatively, en-, and, then, re-disable Flight mode). This all makes this small bug easy to live with.
Finally, Smartphone users: remember NOT to long-press the Red dial button to lock your device – it’ll also terminate the call. Instead, use the standard lock menu accessible via the Power button.
There is also a tutorial on making USB connection work with Modem Link HERE, should it be messed up. Also, the entire thread might be worth giving a read, should you still have problems.
Thanks for FX Belloir for pointing out this hack!
(end of update, the now-outdated original article follows. This means you’ll want to prefer the new hack explained above, NOT the old one I still keep for historical purposes only. It's only the first sections, which explain what this is all about, are worth reading for casual users.)
Anyone having read my article New dial-up networking model of the WM5 AKU3 – a must if you use your WM phones as modems knows WM5 AKU3 (and, of course, WM6) has dramatically changed the way dial-up networking is handled – not necessarily in the good direction. (Please DO read the article if you don’t have a clue what I’m referring to and you have ever wanted to use your Windows Mobile handheld as a cellular modem!)
Microsoft, so far, haven’t really done anything to the problem, except for publishing an article (also discussed for example HERE). Therefore, hackers needed to concentrate their forces on solving the problem. After the first failed attempts (for example mine, as is explained in the first-linked article), at last, some excellent XDA-Developers folks have managed to enable this feature with a comparatively easy-to-do hack. I’ve developed the hack further, making it compatible with several handheld models and ROM versions (the previous version available at XDA-Developers doesn’t support the Universal, Wizard and, probably, several other models because it doesn’t do any forced Registry import – it might only be compatible with the P3600.)
The hack makes it possible to use most WM5 AKU3 / WM6 devices in the traditional (pre-WM5 AKU3) DUN dial-up method, in addition to the new, in WM5 AKU3 introduced Internet Sharing.
This means you can use BOTH technologies and can have the advantages of BOTH approaches. With the “traditional” DUN dial-up, you still have the freedom of NOT having to manually start / reconnect Internet Sharing AND the ability to use clients not supporting the BT Personal Area Network (PAN) profile required by the new Internet Sharing. And, as Internet Sharing is still supported, you can still have a real internet sharing approach, making it possible to use the Internet on both the Windows Mobile device acting as a modem and the client that connects to it (and can still have the other goodies Internet Sharing also offers: for example, the accessibility of the phone even with an ongoing Internet session.)
Again, it’s almost impossible to emphasize how important, how revolutional this hack is! If you’ve EVER tried to use your WM5 AKU3 / WM6 Windows Mobile phone as a modem you know Internet Sharing can be a REAL pain in the back, particularly if the client you’d like to use it from doesn’t support BT PAN.
Installation
Import THIS registry import file (via, say, the brand new, EXCELLENT desktop-side Registry editor of SOTI’s Pocket Controller 6) and copy the contents of THIS file to the \Windows directory of your Windows Mobile device. Soft reset your device and voliá: after this, clients discovering the Bluetooth services your device provides will also see it offering the DUN service (in addition to the PAN one) as can also be seen in HERE.
After this, everything will work just great – as in the pre-AKU3 days. Follow for example THIS tutorial on using DUN modems if you don’t know how it’s done.
Problems
It’s incompatible with some HTC Wizard ROM versions, namely, the official AKU 3.3 T-Mobile ROM – see THIS. It, however, has no problems with mfrazzz's XDA Mobile 6 Release 2a Full at all.
It seems it’s incompatible with WM6 MS Smartphones (Windows Mobile Standard). I’ve tested this on my HTC Vox (S710).
Compatibility
In my tests, it worked just great on my HTC Universal and HTC Wizard. A lot of people have reported other success stories; for example, with the AKU3 HTC Trinity (P3600).
Verdict
Again and again: if you EVER plan to use your handheld as a modem, this hack is a MUST!
UPDATE (11/02/2007): There's a version specifically meant for the T-Mo Dash is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340762 .
Note that if you have a MS Smartphone (as opposed to a Pocket PC), it MUST be application unlocked for the hack to work. See for example See for example http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=2004&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more links on application unlocking. Note that app unlocking is absolutely legal.
Error on a StarTrek
Hey all,
I get the following error after installing:
"Alert
Can't find 'ATCIUI' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all the required libraries are available."
Any ideas? All the components are there...
qnonsense said:
Hey all,
I get the following error after installing:
"Alert
Can't find 'ATCIUI' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all the required libraries are available."
Any ideas? All the components are there...
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Which one did you try? "Technology"'s CAB? Mine?
Menneisyys said:
Which one did you try? "Technology"'s CAB? Mine?
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I tried both CABs, as well as simply copying the files into the Windows directory, all to no avail. My phone is application unlocked and I've verified that the registry entries are all in place... Very confusing.
Motorola Q9c
I couldn't get it to work on the Motorola Q9c either. Any chance there is a way to get it to work with this device?
What Are You Trying To Do
mabmarc1 said:
I couldn't get it to work on the Motorola Q9c either. Any chance there is a way to get it to work with this device?
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If you have bluetooth on your device, then I believe it will work on your device! If you are trying to configure the bluetooth {"DUN"} dial-up configuration setup on your Motorola Q9c, then it will never work. Just install the bluetooth Dun.cab on your Motorola Q9c to the MAIN MEMORY! (NOT IN THE WINDOWS FOLDER)! Soft reset your device. Next turn the bluetooth on, pair the two devices, now the Motorola Q9c is ready to be use as a "modem" for bluetooth {"DUN"} dial-up. Nothing else is to be done to the Motorola Q9c. The bluetooth {"DUN"} dial-up configuration setup should already be on the other device (PDA, Laptop, ect...) that you paired with the Motorola Q9c............! The directions that I'm giving you are for the bluetooth Dun.cab in my thread only............!
VZW Moto Q not working
Okay so I tried the .cab file and stupid me forgot to back up my device before hand. Yeah now I don't have any working Bluetooth.
2 questions.
1) Could someone please provide me with the files from a WM5 AKU3 phone?
ATCIUI.exe
ATCIUI.lnk
atcmdint.dll
bthatci.dll
2) If I can't get these files from someone will a Master Reset get my device back to normal or will it leave the broken files still in place.
This worked great on my Treo 750 w/ATT used it on my TomTom 920. THanks!
Anyone got luck using this on a HTC S730?
I'm trying to access the internet from my QTek 9000 (HTC Universal) through my HTC S730 phone. No luck.
On QTek 9000 (with crossbow's WM6) no clientside PAN is supported and on HTC S730 I cannot get DUN working...
Yes bmorg, master reset will revive your device
user 888
user888
matey did you make any progress with your query?
user888 said:
Anyone got luck using this on a HTC S730?
I'm trying to access the internet from my QTek 9000 (HTC Universal) through my HTC S730 phone. No luck.
On QTek 9000 (with crossbow's WM6) no clientside PAN is supported and on HTC S730 I cannot get DUN working...
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Your quest is similar to one I have. I have a T-Mobile Dash with HTC-S620 WM6.1 Smartphone ROM and EDGE data that I want to access the internet from a SE TM506 with HSDPA 3G data. There is no clientside BT PAN on the S620 and no way to BT DUN to the TM506. I have clientside serial port on the S620 to the TM506 but no app to take advantage.
So far quest was futile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433074
Help for WM6 GSM dial-up internet connection
Hello,
can anyone help me?.
I would access internet with my cell phone (Samsung SGH i780 os WM6) without having any kind of fast data connections with my provider, like gprs edge or hsdpa.
In other word I would connect to the service with a dial-up gsm connection at 9600bps, but WM6 seems to haven't capability to connect to internet this way.
I found here: http://www.modaco.com/content/smartp.../#entry1048254 some related like informations, think to understand that this post tells about to connect a BT device like gps, trough BT connection of a WM6 cell phone, via DUN to internet; someone think this could also be useful for me? If so how?
Please forgive me my english I hope it could have be understandable.
Tankyou.
Roberto Ruvinetti
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Hi All,
Hope this is an appropriate forum
I have a Dell Axim x51v and a kaiser.
Ive noticed the kaiser has an app called quick gps which downloads ephemeris data via the web and leads to a much quicker fix than the axim.
Ive scoured the internet for hours trying to find this software but most seem only to point to htc devices. Can I get this for a Dell Axim at all? FAiling that any other apps to acheive the same?
Thanks in advance for any tips..
I don't think that's possible, at least not the way you think.
Axim X5x doesn'y have built-in GPS unit.
A hardware, bluetooth GPS, achieves satelite fix without any need of communication from the PDA.
Hence I think it's hardware related issue (GPS).
However, what you may find interesting, is finding a BT GPS with support for A-GPS (downloadable ephemeris data from producer's website).
Skytrack A-GPS is one of such device available in the market.
You can read more about the topic that interests you over here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
ahhh, thanks for the clarification!
Makes perfect sense....
Hello,
Is there a way to turn these mobile devices into a bluetooth keyboard/mouse?
I am aware of the gremote porject at http://gbmsoftware.com/ but am looking for a more generic way to turn the mobile device into a remote keyboard and mouse.
A generic solution would be ideal because it could be used with any system (not just PCs) including PS3s, PCs, Macs, Linux, etc.
If something like this doesn't exist, what would be involved in creating it? Would one have to write a bluetooth driver?
I am a developer but have never written a driver or written anything related to bluetooth. If someone can point me in the right direction I may be able to write this thing myself.
Ever any luck with this?
My Frenemy has found an app that does this with WIFI - but your point about universality strikes me as important. Not having to install a server app allows this to work on any platform. I wonder why no answers or other posts.
The EVO 4G would make a SICK remote bluetooth keyboard and mouse...
Thanks...
Frank
Turn mobile device into bluetooth keyboard and mous
No,
Nobody really got back to me and I've since moved on to WebOS. I still think it would be great little tool!
-Ash
http://www.mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx
This will do it.
Wondering the same thing
Hi i have been looking everywhere. I am also wondering the same thing (mainly to connect to my ps3. Could you possibly repost that link? it seems to not be working. thank you!
I am using Samsung i908 with WM6.1, I just bought a Tomtom ONE XL and found that I have no way to connect it with my phone. After I checked and read many articles and found that the problem is from BT DUN, Microsoft makes this function to optional and still provides it to OEM manufacturers, but it seems Samsung removed this function when they produced i908.
Is there any way for me to add BT DUN back? I found that I can find a patch to add this function back if my phone is WM6.0, unfortunately my phone is WM6.1 Please help. Thanks.
I contacted TOMTOM, but they said that's the compatibility issue, they can not help. I also asked Samsung for help, but they have not provided any solution yet. Sad. Do you have any solution/suggestion for me?
Welcome to the forum
Perhaps you have not noticed that this is an HTC devices only forum, however in off topic there is a thread regarding samsung, perhaps there someone can help you
Good luck,