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i-mate Ultimate 9502

I was checking some website's to find more info about the phone. And I've seen this:
Processor/ Chipset • 400 MHz Qualcomm® MSM 7200™
Does someone has this device. Does it have the video driver fix?? Can we get the drivers trought I-Mate??
Source: http://www.expansys.nl/d.aspx?i=158753

Someone????????

Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you dug a little deeper, you would've found that the device still hasn't been released.
Actually none of the Ultimate line has been released as far as I know (and according to asia.cnet.com).
I'm sure we'll be all afire to pick apart the dll's on the phone if it comes with video drivers.

ouminan said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you dug a little deeper, you would've found that the device still hasn't been released.
Actually none of the Ultimate line has been released as far as I know (and according to asia.cnet.com).
I'm sure we'll be all afire to pick apart the dll's on the phone if it comes with video drivers.
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Well The Polaris also wasn't released but some ppl got it like 2/3 months before release.

Guys and gals, I’ve just posted a HUGE roundup & quick review of i-mate’s all four new devices to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1967268

I just need the ROM hehe....

Laurentius26 said:
I just need the ROM hehe....
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True True True!

So when it gets released, is it possible to get the driver from there and implement it onto our device? Or is it just a "we can try".

Malik05 said:
So when it gets released, is it possible to get the driver from there and implement it onto our device? Or is it just a "we can try".
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Think, when it releases htc has already released the drivers.

9502
Hey... here in Australia the Tesltra web-site says that the 9502 is having it's world first launch here in Aus... in early March! So maybe the video driver can be grabbed form it after all.....
Telstra also too a full back cover of PC-Authority to advertis ethe device and the 8502 as well... so pretty certain they will be here soon....

Menneisyys said:
Guys and gals, I’ve just posted a HUGE roundup & quick review of i-mate’s all four new devices to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1967268
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thanks for that review. I had been quite interested before impatience got the better of me. Glad I didn't bother waiting!

Slow down guys. Nobody knows anything yet. Several devices use the MSM7200, a few with drivers (LG), none have turned out to be anywhere near a solution, let alone an easy fix. Nothing is for sure until cmonex, oli, chainfire, or a couple other dedicated Kaiser Gurus get there hands on it, see how it was written, what's required, & if it's even possible. Even with the drivers, do we know if the Hardware is there & unrestricted?

GSLEON3 said:
Slow down guys. Nobody knows anything yet. Several devices use the MSM7200, a few with drivers (LG), none have turned out to be anywhere near a solution, let alone an easy fix. Nothing is for sure until cmonex, oli, chainfire, or a couple other dedicated Kaiser Gurus get there hands on it, see how it was written, what's required, & if it's even possible. Even with the drivers, do we know if the Hardware is there & unrestricted?
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Think you forgot McMexican in your list after chainfire
-McMex

Yeah sorry man
It's been one of those days. I think I've had to slap 15 newbies & debricked (well it was a total brick for them) about 14 Kaiser/Tilts.
I'll be sure to remember you next time though!

So has someone managed to get one?

i-Mate Ultimate 9502
xmoo said:
So has someone managed to get one?
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Hey Guys & Girls...
I have just got an i-Mate Ultimate 9502,
was wondering if there was any ROMs avaliable for this device as yet?
I had the JasJam before this one and loved the Schaps ROMs..
Cheers,
Cat..

How are the pictures and video with that phone I was waiting for it to come out. I thought I had read it was not going to be released.
-McMex

icecoldcat said:
Hey Guys & Girls...
I have just got an i-Mate Ultimate 9502,
was wondering if there was any ROMs avaliable for this device as yet?
I had the JasJam before this one and loved the Schaps ROMs..
Cheers,
Cat..
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So tell us about your i-mate's performance.
Have you tried any games? Watched some videos?

The hardware is different between Kaiser and 9502 even if both are based on MSM7200.
LCD/video is different, Camera probably different, keyboard..etc and it is not like Kaiser and Polaris which are both made by HTC.
Cooking a ROM from different hardware is risky and might lead to a brick.
Please be careful.

Also, if they have the US version it has the MSM7201. The version of the 7200 minus the patent infringing features.

New Update By Htc

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition

redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?

zaharakis said:
i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
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I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..
and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads

Things that might improove
Hey,
The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...
Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...

More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.

i think that zaharakis says what we all feel
htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs

Isaygarcia said:
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
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This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...

Rayan said:
On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
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I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.

hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ

Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)

Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything

dubbeld00 said:
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
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your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??
i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public
so they just yellow us for another one time

Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC

I remember when!
Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...

I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.

So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.
- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.
So, by updating what the hell do I gain?
My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.

nphil said:
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
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It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.

why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang !

No update on the Kaiser - HTC 2009 leak

I'm sorry if I'm being redundant with other posts, but I want to share my frustration. From what I saw from 2009 HTC models leak, there will be no real Kaiser upgrade, meaning an improved device WITH lots of hardware buttons and Quad-band... Only touch-heavy oriented stuff.

mbernstein said:
I'm sorry if I'm being redundant with other posts, but I want to share my frustration. From what I saw from 2009 HTC models leak, there will be no real Kaiser upgrade, meaning an improved device WITH lots of hardware buttons and Quad-band... Only touch-heavy oriented stuff.
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I can think on Memphis as a Kaiser succesor

orb3000 said:
I can think on Memphis as a Kaiser succesor
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Hope you are right, but it kind of resembles more the Dream, doesn't it? The Twin (in terms of design) looked more like it but it seems it doesn't have a keyboard and its purpose (CDMA+GSM) seems to be different. But then this is just speculation. Actually in terms of spec, I think the Xperia was the closest thing lately (but not enough to justify an upgrade IMHO).
Let's wait and see, hoping you are right and that the specs are really an improvement. Thanks.

PPC / WinMo Preferences

Guys, I've been wondering for quite some time if there is a PPC out there that "completely satisfies" the needs of various users. Therefore, if it isn't too much trouble, would you mind listing:
1) Key features you would like in a PPC
2) Any PPCs currently in the market (or in the soon-to-be market, i.e. Touch Pro 2) that fit the bill?
**Note: I don't necessarilly want you to limit yourself to WinMo phones; Symbian, BlackBerry, Android, Palm, and even Apple (yes I know...) phones are OK.
For example, I own a Touch Pro and would prefer:
- Larger screen
- Capacitive screen
- More responsiveness (most likely due to a faster processor)
- Thinner (to complement the larger screen to make it easier to type)
Anyways, thanks for taking a look and especially if you contribute.

Really, no one is willing to help my research?
So far, I've only had one Voter. Though appreciated, I'm afraid it's simply not enough.
C'mon guys, what have you got to lose? You'll be expressing your opinion on a matter which I'm sure is on most people's minds here at the forum as well as helping out a fellow member.
Maybe this thread was simply overlooked. Therefore, I feel a BUMP is in order.

Two votes now!

you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.

orb3000 said:
Two votes now!
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And one for the Universal from your Sig (despite being a TP user).
galaxys said:
you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.
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Windows Mobile is a given considering the forum. If I had that option, nearly 100% of the votes would be WinMo. I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info.
Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?

I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...

BB Storm FTW!!!!

montecristo1 said:
I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...
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So the main reason you like your PPCs is the Apps, right?
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BB Storm FTW!!!!
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Surprise, surprise.
Don't see many Storm lovers around .

WildAce786 said:
I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info. Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?
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Here's a current discussion with a lot of scoop and why info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501708

Port Android / WM7 for HD2???

Hi Guys,
This is my first post.... I am firstly thankful to xda team for all their efforts and also to everyone who are working to fine tune WM6 and Android. When will MS learn all this? Damn Windows....(Hope MS is listening)......
Anyway i/everyone am/are totally fed up with WM6... Hope the XDA team is launching Android or WM7 for HTC HD2 (aka LEO) soon... Any NEWS/updates guys????

In short; yes someone (as in a lot of people) is working on both. Welcome to the forums, and check the threads and search function. You will find that threads concerning your questions are quite high in their respective sub-forums. Try and read up before posting, it'll make the stay here quite pleasant. Some people here are tired of answering the same questions over and over, and it'll keep the forums tidy.

very possible but i believe the developers said around end of this year for the android/wp7 on HD2.cant wait......

Well,WP7 is just around the corner.
As for Android,I tried it before but wasn't satisfied because it is maybe interesting at first but later it becomes really boring(Anyway for me).
The HD2's hardware can easily handle WP7 and Microsoft needs to change its mind:just because the HD2 doesn't have a bing key(I think that the problem is about this hardware key.Correct me if I am wrong) this doesn't mean that it is not capable.

@ForceField
Its not just the searchbutton. There are several hardware issues against the "new" mobile concept of MS. Especially the missing sd-card support or better MS don't wan't you to have changeable memory on your device, that might interfere with their "MS marketplace only" app source. That means there has to be much more internal storage in the device itself - like on the iPhone or Palm Pre.
It's definitly easier to become Android on the HD2 since HTC is releasing the nearly similar (hardwarewise) HTC Evo on Sprint - I guess this a nobrainer for the xda-chefs to cook the needed things for that.

microsoft must give an upgrade for htc hd2 because the wm 6.5 is getting boring....some of us loved it but would be great to give a chance to port a wp7 to hd2.. the android operating system is very good too...they made such as good phone as htc hd2 but they gave it away...the next htcs phones doesnt have even sense anymore if i am not doing wrong...after hd2 with sense they throwed away the sense and android came up more famous like HTC Evo or desire..!!!its too bad for such a hi-tech phone to stay forgotten!this phone needs some love so microsoft must give love ;-p and a special gift finally... !!!but at all thanks to god that we have xda-chefs to give us some real dope stuffs to hd2 in nearby ''future''....
ps sorry for my english... ;-p

brodieberlin said:
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It's definitly easier to become Android on the HD2 since HTC is releasing the nearly similar (hardwarewise) HTC Evo on Sprint - I guess this a nobrainer for the xda-chefs to cook the needed things for that.
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It is definitely NOT a nobrainer putting Android on the HD2... the EVO may help a little.... but it is not the same hardware as the HD2. The nexus1 is closer hardware-wise to the HD2. They are using the nexus kernel as a starting point for the kernel they've been already working on for months. But they still have alot of work ahead of them. It is not the same as cooking a new rom. They have to port a working linux kernel.

Help......
God.... i am suffering with ORD... please help.