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I got my Tilt a month back and now interested to install one of the custom made ROM. But i have some basic questions. Please ignore my innocence.
1) As far as i understand Tilt has 2/3 kind of software that can be flashed
a) The GSM Radio
b) The OS
c) Something i missed.
Can someone correct me if i am wrong above.
2) What is Hard SPL? Is that just a tool to flash or it is needed to run the OS / Radio / Other software?
3) What is splash screen? The one that splash when we restart the phone? Why someone want to change it as it is a screen saver. It appears only on reset's if i am not wrong.
4) By flashing the Tilt with new ROM, will it flash the Radio along with the OS? Or it depend on the build. I see some ROM build's with Radio and some ROM's without Radio. Is flashing Radio is different way of doing? Or Hard SPL?
5) Is the Radio software and OS are integrated? Can i use the Radio that comes with Tilt along with some good ROM like dutty's / Custel?
6) Are these custom made ROM's are having drivers for all the hardware ( GPS, Camera, WiFi receiver, 3G Data receiver, BT etc) Do i need to take care of anything? I know that a fix is available for keyboard.
7) There are lot of ROM's around. Popular Dutty's and Custel ROM has got impressive feedback. I am planning to try Custel first. Are the below steps are right?
1) Connect Kaiser to computer using USB cable
2) Make sure ActiveSync icon is GREEN
3) RUN Kaiser-HardSPL.exe on Computer (PC)
4) Follow instructions on screen
5) Once Done, run the Kaiser_RUU.exe and that's it?
I see you scream SEARCHHHHHHHHH...
I did and i am slightly confused as I am just new to this world. I am trying to conclude my assumptions/ understanding.
Thanks.
For questions 1-3 regarding what can be flashed to a Kaiser/Tilt.
HardSPL -- Bootloader. Need to flash this before you can flash anything else that's not HTC or AT&T certified, e.g., cooked ROMs.
Splash -- Only shows up on resets. People like to change it because they can
Radio
OS
Questions 4 & 5 about cooked ROMs bundled with radios and how to flash:
Some chefs choose to include a radio in their NBH file, some chefs don't. You can find links to radio roms and flash it w/o OS.
Currently, there are two radio versions out for the Kaiser and one is dependent on a specific OS version (ATT OS 1.60.502.3 + Radio 1.27.14.09).
Use KaiserCustomRUU to flash .NBH files, which may or may not be included in the ROM release.
Question 6 about drivers & such:Depends on the cooked ROM and what has been removed from the shipped ROM. The Tilt keyboard fix applies to HTC 1.5.405.5 based ROMs only.
Question 7 - how to flash:Yes, your steps look fine.
Hope this helps...
Thank you and I appriciate your help. This gives me some confidnece. I am going to start flashing my Tilt with Custel ROM. Thanks again.
Hello this is my first post.
I have recently been trying out various WM6.1 roms and now have the issue where I can only use GSM (G3 and HSPDA just don't work)
I have tried various radios and downgrading to a reconstructed stock rom. However nothing seems to work. From reading other threads it seems to be a hardware issue, so I need to restore it back to the original settings for repair.
I have the original OS on now, but need to now put back on the original radio and SPL version; however I don't know which versions these are. Also I have a custom start screen so need to go back to the original T-mobile one as well. Any help on how to do this would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I had a problem like you aswell; after upgradig my sound just went away, even after installing the radio. What I did was flash my TYTN2 with the official 6.1 rom (radio included). It's in of the threads, I don't think it'll take you too long to find it =)
Hope that helps!
I have tried various combinations of the original (6.1 and T-mobile) roms and radios and nothing seems to work.
I think that one of the radio roms may have fried my G3/HSPDA chip. GSM works fine but I bought the phone for hi speed data and now can't use it. If any one knows a software fix for this it would be billiant. However at the moment I think I will have to wait until T-mobile bring out a rom so I can restore the SPL & splash screen from that. (hope that wont be to long)
Any other suggestions welcome as I will try anything to get this problem sorted.
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I have tried various combinations of the original (6.1 and T-mobile) roms and radios and nothing seems to work.
I think that one of the radio roms may have fried my G3/HSPDA chip. GSM works fine but I bought the phone for hi speed data and now can't use it. If any one knows a software fix for this it would be billiant. However at the moment I think I will have to wait until T-mobile bring out a rom so I can restore the SPL & splash screen from that. (hope that wont be to long)
Any other suggestions welcome as I will try anything to get this problem sorted.
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Radio 1.27.12.11 should work fine
How did this finish? Have you sent back your device or did you have it working? Did you find, if yes, where did you find the SPL and Splash screen?
Let me know, thanks in advance!
I decided to wait until the new T-mobile rom came out with proper SPL / Radio, and just stick with GSM.
I couldn't find either the proper SPL or splash screen. I think these need to be extracted from a proper T-mobile ROM.
However after 4 days G3/HSPDA just started working again. I didn't change the rom or radio (just stuck with Sluth's WM6.1). I must conclude that it was something to do with T-mobiles network settings that they resolved.
Hi there, i'm search all the fourm for Treo750 and find no answer, so finally, I decied to ask.
I new got an Treo750 ATT (Unlocked) and it come with the very rear Radio ROM now which version is 1.17.20.00 (from ROMver 1.16??I don't know)
the problem is, with this radio, i have no internet access and have horriable singal drops, the worest is, it often sleep in to dead(like o2 xda flame).
So, I first tried changed the OS rom, but I flashed all roms all versions--from Offical to wm6.1, no luck...the problem still have.(I kick out the radio rom part from Offical ROM, see below for reason)
I don't know if there is something wrong with the hardware but I do have those steps below:
Flash OS rom, SPL, HardSPL,Radio
ONLY THING THAT I DIDN'T change was the Radio ROM, first I cannot flash it.
it always stucked at 0%, and wait for 45mins, still 0%. I restart the device, reflash the radio less OS rom, startup, and radio don't change, the problem still have....
I tried everything, form offical rom with radio, even the Cheetchunlocker radio patch, SD/ActiveSync. All operation realted to flash the radio will result a hang....
BTW: I'm working in China, and will last for years.... I really have to change the radio to compatible with the China Mobile GSM....
I've flashed several ROM's to my x7510, starting with Cmonex's 1st WWE ROM, followed by a few versions of Xacsx's ROM's, always going back to Cmonex's every so often.
After having installed one of Xacsx's ROM's, the keyboard layout changed from QWERTY to QWERTZ and I had to do a reg edit to correct it. I learnt from somebody here that QWERTZ is a german keyboard layout, which fits seeing Xacsx is german.
Now here's the strange thing - after having flashed a previous ROM with QWERTY layout, I still had the QWERTZ layout. The setting had somehow "survived" the flashing?
And it gets better. After having flashed Xstep's ROM, the phone on my device remained turned off and nothing I could do would turn it on. That is a MAJOR crisis for me! I flashed Cmonex's ROM again, to see if I could recover from that and hoping it was simply an error with the ROM.
Xstep's ROM has RealVGA built in and the default setting is 92 dpi.
After flashing Cmonex's ROM my device was running at 92 dpi, even though RealVGA is not installed! I had to install it just to change the settings back to 192 dpi.
And still the phone doesn't turn on!
Update:
The problems I experienced were down to two things:
1) I had flashed two ROMs that each contained their own extended ROM's in succession
2) Somehow I had messed up the radio on my x7510
THE SOLUTION:
1) Flash the extended ROM supplied by Cmonex, together with the matching ROM
1. customruu for x7510, grab it from attachment. use this to flash roms.
2. nbh building tool for x7510, in another attachment. just choose X7510 from device list to work with it.
3. some stock OS links (some taken from RUU some from dumped / reconstructed roms)
WWE (english) 19209: http://rapidshare.com/files/16043971...forATHE400.zip
WWE (english) 19217: http://rapidshare.com/files/16043113...forATHE400.zip
GER (german) 19217: http://www.filedropper.com/x7510gerruusignedforathe400
CHT (taiwan chinese) 19209: http://rapidshare.com/files/15981958...forATHE400.rar and a mirror http://www.megaupload.com/?d=30L24D8W
NEW: WWE (english) 3.29.707 rom: http://rapidshare.com/files/16967590...RUU_Signed.zip
+ extrom for 3.29.707: http://rapidshare.com/files/17304340...707_extrom.zip
make a mirror for others too please if you can =)
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2) Flash the x7510 radio supplied by Xtep
I have repacked the radio for a x7510. You can download it from: http://rapidshare.com/files/191672003/x7510_Radio_1.58.rar
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I have axcsx's WWE ROM loaded on my x7510 which I loaded after loading cmonex's 3.29 rom. To be honest I did not know that a QWERTZ keyboard existed, however, all of the keys on my keyboard keys appear to work exactly as one would expect - QWERTY fashion without any required registry fix.
I did download xtep's rom but I'm now not likely to load after your experience. I wish I had more technical knowledge to suggest a fix. cmonex posted after a long absence yesterday. Perhaps it worth a pm?
Still wonder why you had a keyboard issue and I don't?
I actually flashed ALL of Xacsx's ROM's at one stage or the other. I believe the problem started after I flashed version2 of his WWE ROM.
Time for an update:
The QWERTZ instead of QWERTY issue I believe was down to one of Xacsx's ROM's having over-written the extended ROM (he warned that it would).
I've downloaded Cmonex's HardSPL, WWE ROM and matching extended ROM, then flashed 1st the HardSPL, then the extended ROM and finally the WWE ROM.
As a result, I no longer get the 96 dpi upon startup, and the keyboard reverted back to QWERTY.
At least that's progress.
But, the phone still simply won't turn on and I get an error message about Device.exe
I'm hoping this isn't due to hardware failure and that there is a software fix for it, but time will tell.
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But, the phone still simply won't turn on and I get an error message about Device.exe
I'm hoping this isn't due to hardware failure and that there is a software fix for it, but time will tell.
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It does not sound like a hardware problem. Have you tried searching at the Windows folder if you do have the Device.exe file? It might just be because of a missing file. I don't know the contents of the Ext ROM, but could this file be in there too. Maybe when you upgraded your Ext ROM, this file was not included. So everytime you perform a hard reset, since it is missing from the Ext ROM, it does not install to your device.
If the file is present in the Windows folder, maybe the registry is pointing to a wrong file.
Had a look and there is no DEVICE.EXE in Windows
your problems with the keyboard layout or 96DPI are dued to ExtROM. In the ExtROM of my ROMs I have added a configuration file to switch to 96 DPI, you have said before that Xacsx said something similar about QWERTZ layout.
The real problem is that Cmonex's ROM does not include ExtROM, so although you revert to his ROM, you still have the previous extROM (from Xacsx or mine). You also need to flash the official ExtROM released by Cmonex.
About the phone problem, I cannot help you. I haven't experimented that isue on my own x7510 (tested both WWE and ESN roms). Anyway, if is a ROM problem, it sould be solved by flahsing another ROM.
Device.exe is in XIP part of the ROM.
Yes, I've already re-flashed Cmonex's extended ROM, thanks Xtep.
To be honest I don't believe your ROM is to blame. I have reflashed Cmonex's extended ROM, then her matching WWE ROM, in that order and still I get the DEVICE.EXE error and still the phone won't switch on.
That pretty much tells me it isn't ROM related.
I've attached the log file (renamed to .TXT) to this post - any help is gratefully received!
It may be worth flashing the full HTC ROM, which incliudes ROM, ExtROM and Radio; once up and running again, you could then reflash your cooked ROM of choice.
Factory ROMsdo tend to fix some of these odd problems.
Hi Neil,
I was under the impression that's pretty much what Cmonex's plain vanilla WWE ROM + matching extended ROM was, which is why I flashed it.
Only thing I haven't done yet is reverting back to the stock SPL.
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Hi Neil,
I was under the impression that's pretty much what Cmonex's plain vanilla WWE ROM + matching extended ROM was, which is why I flashed it.
Only thing I haven't done yet is reverting back to the stock SPL.
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I sugest you to flash a Radio again (I thin that version 1.58 in this thread is from x7510).
You problem is when you activate the phone and that is managed by radio.
Thanks Xtep - I think you're on the right track with your suggestion, but that radio won't flash to my x7510. It keeps failing with unsupported device error message.
Any ideas where I can get hold of a stock radio?
NanoRuler said:
Thanks Xtep - I think you're on the right track with your suggestion, but that radio won't flash to my x7510. It keeps failing with unsupported device error message.
Any ideas where I can get hold of a stock radio?
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That is because this file is for Athena x7500.
I have repacked the radio for a x7510. You can download it from: http://rapidshare.com/files/191672003/x7510_Radio_1.58.rar
You are indeed a scholar and a true gentleman!
Xtep, I've got phone functionality back! Thanks a stack!!!
And right now I'm re-flashing your ROM!
Did that work NR?
If not, can you PM me- I may have a suggestion, but can't post in an open forum
Hi guys, my raphael was working good when stoped working the EDGE radio, it connects right on the anthem, but doesnt get signal, loosing the information with the connection timeout reason.
I think it is my radio, I have never messed with raphael HardSPL, just installed the rom 5.05.401.1 WWE official HTC rom disponible on the official HTC WEBSITE, only clicking on the file.
And I updated my radio too, installing the 1.11.25.01 version, official to the fuze, it was working so good, suddenly it broken the signal and have already passed 5 days.
I was thinking about re-installing the radio, seems that when I installed the 1.11.25.01 Radio version I didnt need to loose all my installed programs, data etc, only updating the rom, not loosing information as in the ROM installation.
I would like to re-install this rom version, or the last and best rom version with loose my data, I didnt remember the procedure, if I needed to instal the HardSPL or no, but by my remembering, only executed the .exe files on the desktop
help please!
i was needing this help so much, please help me guys, i tested my chip on another mobile and worked the edge
Be sure to flash Hard SPL before you do anything!!!!!
After you do that, you can go ahead and flash.
If I were you, I'd flash a different radio to see if it works better, I recommend .28, .32, and the .19 test.
If that doesn't work then let us know.
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Hi guys, my raphael was working good when stoped working the EDGE radio, it connects right on the anthem, but doesnt get signal, loosing the information with the connection timeout reason.
I think it is my radio, I have never messed with raphael HardSPL, just installed the rom 5.05.401.1 WWE official HTC rom disponible on the official HTC WEBSITE, only clicking on the file.
And I updated my radio too, installing the 1.11.25.01 version, official to the fuze, it was working so good, suddenly it broken the signal and have already passed 5 days.
I was thinking about re-installing the radio, seems that when I installed the 1.11.25.01 Radio version I didnt need to loose all my installed programs, data etc, only updating the rom, not loosing information as in the ROM installation.
I would like to re-install this rom version, or the last and best rom version with loose my data, I didnt remember the procedure, if I needed to instal the HardSPL or no, but by my remembering, only executed the .exe files on the desktop
help please!
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I cannot say if your radio is the problem. If you're installing an official HTC or provider ROM, you do not need HardSPL. If you want to install a cooked one here off XDA, you do. This great guide will help you flash a cooked ROM and/or radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
You're right, if you flash a radio, then you will not lose anything in your Storage Memory. If you flash a ROM, you will, so be sure to back up your PIM. PPCPimBackup does a great job for that, you can find it at d0ugie's site: http://blownfuze.org/ Your contacts and calendar should come back right away after the restore, but the messages take a while to rebuild, so don't touch it for at least 15 mins after the reboot.
I was trying to flash the HardSPL, and it goes to an ERROR
Trying to flash a Radio goes to an ERROR too, my raphael is only accepting the official's HTC ROM, when flashing anything it cracks on 0%
wtf?
basmareck said:
I was trying to flash the HardSPL, and it goes to an ERROR
Trying to flash a Radio goes to an ERROR too, my raphael is only accepting the official's HTC ROM, when flashing anything it cracks on 0%
wtf?
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By default, you cannot flash anything but an HTC or provider ROM; you cannot flash radios either. You have to flash HardSPL before you flash a custom ROM or a radio.
Have you tried running SSPLManual.exe as outlined in the guide above, step 2 note 2?