Is there a way to use the Raphael's in-built radio, to get tmc information in a gps program(like igo 8)?
I'm asking this, because I know Raphael has a radio with rds support, and if one is connecting the headset, it should be able to receive tmc too, not just normal radio stations.
But if it's not able, I think it is just up to the software, so someone with the proper knowledge could write a software to use it
Hi
I think this is technically possible, however, it would mean carrying the Touch Pro always with the headset cable plugged in. On my TP the radio won't start unless this cable is inserted. So, I suspect any radio TMC software would also want the cable connected ??
Regards, D
Cheesy Dave said:
Hi
I think this is technically possible, however, it would mean carrying the Touch Pro always with the headset cable plugged in. On my TP the radio won't start unless this cable is inserted. So, I suspect any radio TMC software would also want the cable connected ??
Regards, D
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you would need an antenna to receive tmc as it is transmitted at a much lower power than the radio broadcast
Cheesy Dave said:
Hi
I think this is technically possible, however, it would mean carrying the Touch Pro always with the headset cable plugged in. On my TP the radio won't start unless this cable is inserted. So, I suspect any radio TMC software would also want the cable connected ??
Regards, D
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Yes, but you usually use tmc in a car, so it doesn't matter you have to plugin in a cable or not
ardsar said:
you would need an antenna to receive tmc as it is transmitted at a much lower power than the radio broadcast
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You mean the headset's cable is not enough as an antenna to receive the tmc?
mydexterid said:
You mean the headset's cable is not enough as an antenna to receive the tmc?
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untested and untried. Look at all the issues tomtom had with their dedicated TMC receiver in the uk - many complaints of no signal etc. Their final solution contained a lead with ferrites in order to attenuate unwanted signals in the hope of achieving a stronger TMC signal. Finally they got it right! The sensitivity of the radio will also play a part in this.
www.navilock.de
There is a bluetooth tmc unit available wich u can connect behind you car antenna and it will transmit tmc signal by bluetooth.
I'am using it with navigon and it work perfect.
You only need gpsgate to make a virtual bleutooth commport wich navigon can recognize!
After long long long searches (!! thanks to Barkeeper) ... I found that Franson GpsGate can help Navigon MN7 to find and get active the GPS data of my Raphael.
It is a kind of port replicator that provide a virtual com to the other programs, like MN7. I don't understand why MN7 needs this workaround, but it is.
GPS test and VirtualGPSce would not help MN7 to work correctly on my raphael.
Today I will stress a lot my new MN7 that I bought "in the dark"!
ulric72 said:
After long long long searches (!! thanks to Barkeeper) ... I found that Franson GpsGate can help Navigon MN7 to find and get active the GPS data of my Raphael.
It is a kind of port replicator that provide a virtual com to the other programs, like MN7. I don't understand why MN7 needs this workaround, but it is.
GPS test and VirtualGPSce would not help MN7 to work correctly on my raphael.
Today I will stress a lot my new MN7 that I bought "in the dark"!
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And how is this post related to TMC?
mydexterid said:
And how is this post related to TMC?
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1. Mine is usefull like your.
2. I just wanted to thank Barkeeper1979 that help me in a big trouble. Excuse me sir!
ulric72 said:
1. Mine is usefull like your.
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I don't understand this. Pls rephrase.
ulric72 said:
2. I just wanted to thank Barkeeper1979 that help me in a big trouble. Excuse me sir!
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Then you should do this in pm. This thread is about using tmc with Raphael. Your post has nothing to do with this. (so as this post, unfortunately)
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I have the new XDA II car kit that works well if I'm making a call, well well enough, I now need to get the antenna for the kid, I have been to Tottenham Ct. road and have no help from those sad shop keepers.
Who's antenna fits in to the kit and will it work with everyones software.
Help I've never had sat nav before.
Thanks
Most car kits (if not all) don't include a builtin GPS receiver - so an antenna alone would not be enough! You probably need to buy a GPS receiver (most of these have internal antennae) that connects to the socket on your carkit... the one to get will depend on the socket type.
Let us know exactly which car kit you have (e.g. post a link to it) for more information.
Thanks, I have got tthe Tom Tom reciever and it had the same American phone socket that fitted into the car kit and it fired up first time, I am well impressed.
The onoy problem I now have is if Tom Tom is taking me somewhere and I recieve a call it locks up as I end te call (not during) and I have to exit the program and re launch it. A pain when on the motorway.
Thanks
I know it doesn't answer your question, but both this and this appear to be the same issue.
Let us know if you manage to sort it out!
Thanks for the link mate
There seems to be the same probllem with others.
Just got back with a few beers inside me and really ought to sort this thing out tomorrow.
Hic hic
I love you all
Adz Butler
If you want to use Mapping software then you need a GPS receiver. The Emtac Bluetooth GPS works, provided that you install Bluetooth Tools.
Do you want a GPS Receiver that plugs into the SD slot or one that plugs into the connector at the bottom - i.e. a Serial GPS.
Don't buy a GPS Antenna - they are cheaprer - but they are no use to you except to plug in to a GPS receiver to get better signal
Mike
"Most car kits (if not all) don't include a builtin GPS receiver"
This will confuse people - most people think of a "car kit" being for handsfree audio.
I think what you are referring to is a street navigation kit.
mikeaus said:
"Most car kits (if not all) don't include a builtin GPS receiver"
This will confuse people - most people think of a "car kit" being for handsfree audio.
I think what you are referring to is a street navigation kit.
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Huh? I think you failed to spot the word don't.
Hi
I have a 3 yearlod XDA1 in perfect working order, and have been thinking about using it again.
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to add sat-nav to it, and if so what I need to do it
Thanks
Steve
Yes you can add sat nav - a friend of mine has and it works perfectly.
You need a gps reciever, in car charger and a memory card large enough to hold the map data.
Can't remember if the xda1 has bluetooth, if it does you could get a bluetooth gps unit but i prefer a wired unit because you don't have to remember to recharge it.
Also obviously you need the satnav software.
Thanks very much for your help
Ill sort it
Steve
xda1 doesn't have bluetooth so you'll have to get a cable to connect the gps receiver to the ppc. oh, you'll probably have to find a cable to connect both the receiving and the power source...having gps drains the hell out of you battery.
cheers
Is there a possibility to listen to the FM radio while charging. The problem is that the FM radio only works with plugges headphones. Maybe there is a solution with a special USB cable?? any ideas or solutions??
y cable is available on market mate!
Bye
it's not possible
i bought a y-cable just a few days ago.
you can charge your battery, or you can listen radio.
don't know if this is a software bug, or simply not possible...
oppaunke said:
it's not possible
i bought a y-cable just a few days ago.
you can charge your battery, or you can listen radio.
don't know if this is a software bug, or simply not possible...
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what is the handsfree u r using?
i belived that the radio only worked with the wired headset
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i belived that the radio only worked with the wired headset
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yes, but rce100 remote headset cannotwork with y-cable .
thats the reason i ask,with the wire headset incuded there is no problem with y-cable.
oppaunke said:
it's not possible
i bought a y-cable just a few days ago.
you can charge your battery, or you can listen radio.
don't know if this is a software bug, or simply not possible...
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I don't understand why HTC implements only one connector on their last devices, just since the HTC Touch came out on the market with only one connector for USB and Audio, i suspected that the only one thing is that HTC want to save money at the device's production and to get in another way some money selling their accessories.
I still remember the advantages with 2 different connectors Audio and USB, hearing a TV streaming and at the same time charging the device.
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yes, but rce100 remote headset cannotwork with y-cable.
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Is this the Y cable you are referring to?
There is also a mention of a driver for the rec100 "to function correctly" which I can't seem to find
hi!
i meant this one:
http://www.amazon.de/Y-Adapter-3-fa.../ref=pd_sbs_ce?ie=UTF8&qid=1197505192&sr=8-13
audio-output works;
charging works;
but not at the same time!
if the fm radio works without a headset attached... i don't know, but i'll test it
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Is this the Y cable you are referring to?
There is also a mention of a driver for the rec100 "to function correctly" which I can't seem to find
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Yes that is the y-cable i talk about.
unfortunately it's not a driver problem to work with rce100,they said its about power.
not know any details.
Is there a spot to connect a external antenna like on tytn at the back?
No there is not.
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No there is not.
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Are you sure?
Its usually hidden somewhere in the battery compartment under a sticker or label or rubber plug. It might even be under the battery its self.
What is very strange i found it in one phone under a lable saying Void if removed...
Very odd considering the plug while not public common use. Is a perfectly viable antenna connection and often used in rigs, car phones and business.
But most phones have them.
Yes, this doesn't.
thnx for the info guys. hmmm this might change my descion to get it. unless it has better reception then i get with my Tytn i wont be able to get reception without it.
This is an issue for me too, as I just found this:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/products.asp?partno=TCANTENNATPRO&model=
Says it's an external GPS antenna for the HTC Touch Pro...
Or would this work?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10939.htm?referer=FR_PROD-PR-P-10939
The first thing is discontinued, obviously because they found out (probably by some angry buyers) that TP DOES NOT have a GPS plug.
The second is a full BT GPS device. Works with any BT enabled computer or PDA (inc. the TP).
GPS Antenna
I was also disappointed that there was no BT antenna available.
I was seaching some GPS antenna maker hoping to find some that could use existing MiniUSB port on TP but it seems the port is unable to support communication with GPS software.
So sad, this would have been a good enhancement to TP if there was MiniUSB GPS antenna maker.
Guys do you know what you are talking about?
I suppose not.
BT or USB are not "generic I do it all" technologies. They work based on specific protocols.
A GPS antenna is usually passive equipment - and even for active ones we mean that something amplifies the received signal.
THAT signal (and in fact the whole antenna), is "stupid". It is the part of the chipset to receive the ELECTRICAL data and make them into usable data.
I am not sure if I am getting through, my English are not the best, but the point is that you are looking in the wrong place for the wrong thing.
Now if you want a real USB or BT GPS that you will use instead of the internal ones, that's a whole different story. This works and actually does it by using the "COM" (serial) support that both USB and BT include.
To make the story more complete though, USB solutions will not work for devices that don't support "USB-host" (i.e. being the host part not the client part of the connection). Most WM don't have this (and yes Diamond and TP also don't). So you are left with BT.
To be honest if you are ready to pay for that premium (and you seem to be, by the links you give), what is your problem if what you connected is a full GPS that "replaces" the internal one or not?
I hope everything is more clear.
I presently use a TyTN II, and have an external aerial as the mount for the device is under a metal dash, so shields the signal...
I therefore need an external receiver for GPS.
Se here: http://freespace.virgin.net/shaw.clan/modifications.html and click on the TomTom hiolder link, although this is with the older QTEC 9100.
Make sense?
For driving with my Garmin in the car i used a Re-Radiating in my Xterra with excellent results.
This is basically the setup I have, although the internal antenna wasn't integrated into the power plug.
http://www.semsons.com/gpsreran.html
Mine is a bit more similar to this so you can control where you mount the internal antenna.
http://www.mapsdownunder.com.au/cgi-bin/mapshop/MG-GPSPHMANTRA45.html
I have yet to test it on the Fuze but will probably do it when I have time this weekend. The change in signal strength is drastic (on the garmin).
Woow insanely expensive!
Kerensky97 said:
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I have yet to test it on the Fuze but will probably do it when I have time this weekend. The change in signal strength is drastic (on the garmin).
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Please let us know if it works.
The combined WLAN / Bluetooth / FM chip in the Defy ( WL1271 ) is able
to not only receive FM Radio, it can also transmit Audio !
Both solutions support Bluetooth specification v2.1 + EDR, and provide FM transmit and receive functions to turn the handset into a personal area broadcast device.
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http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...993&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=ProductBulletin+OT+wilink_6
So another locked feature that would make the Defy even better.
This thread is to collect informations that could help to enable it.
I always wondered why nokia is the only company (I know of anyway) that puts FM transmitters in their phones.
It is such a good way to listen to your music in unfamiliar places like friends house, rental cars, work cars.
This would be awesome to see working!!
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The combined WLAN / Bluetooth / FM chip in the Defy ( WL1271 ) is able
to not only receive FM Radio, it can also transmit Audio !
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...993&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=ProductBulletin+OT+wilink_6
So another locked feature that would make the Defy even better.
This thread is to collect informations that could help to enable it.
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I know this will be the dumbest question to ask, but can we also use it with mic and speaker for it to make it work like a two way communication device. Eg; police radios
In my opinion:
everybody must wait for the motorola that they would open the bootloader for the developers who will write the necessery drivers... like the 720p record and touch to focus
AtomCity said:
In my opinion:
everybody must wait for the motorola that they would open the bootloader for the developers who will write the necessery drivers... like the 720p record and touch to focus
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And continous-autofocus video recording? xD
Nokia N86 have special internal antenna for FM Transmitter.
Wow, this would be awesome if you got it to work. The one thing is miss from my old SE w980
Sent from my Defy
Interesting...
Aerial
1806 said:
Nokia N86 have special internal antenna for FM Transmitter.
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I think you have hit the nail on the head there. unless the defy has suitable aerial which i doubt because you have to use headphone cable for the aerial.Might be wrong thought. hope i am because this was a great feature of nokia's
its posible FM transsmisor on Defy ???
insestito said:
its posible FM transsmisor on Defy ???
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It's hard to tell.
There is no datasheet and the drivers are closed source.
If the chip does not require additional circuitry for the transmitter,
then there is a chance to get it working.
As antenna you could just cut the cable from an old headset and plug it in
while transmitting, if the same antenna is used for receiver and transmitter.
chaihg said:
I know this will be the dumbest question to ask, but can we also use it with mic and speaker for it to make it work like a two way communication device. Eg; police radios
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I think in theory this could be possible.
But as the range of the transmitter is max 10-20 meter, this would be
very limited
Maybe from one room to the other.
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I think in theory this could be possible.
But as the range of the transmitter is max 10-20 meter, this would be
very limited
Maybe from one room to the other.
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Yayy, feels good to know i can think electronics thanks.
so.... if defy have an internal antena, i can listen the radio via bluetooth?
It could be a very nice car kit for the people they don't have bluetooth inside.
n7650_fun said:
It could be a very nice car kit for the people they don't have bluetooth inside.
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If you don't care about others listening to your conversation while you are in a traffic jam . It's OK for music but i would never use it for conversations.
The defy would be one hell of a phone if you could get it to work, and the one/ones behind it one hell of a developer. At least to me. Can't understand how you guys discover everything and a few days later you show up with new stuff to play around with.
Is there anything you cant do with the Defy?
Crazy phone, freeking unbelivable talented developers!
Sent from my Defy
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It's hard to tell.
There is no datasheet and the drivers are closed source.
If the chip does not require additional circuitry for the transmitter,
then there is a chance to get it working.
As antenna you could just cut the cable from an old headset and plug it in
while transmitting, if the same antenna is used for receiver and transmitter.
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The transmitting antenna has to be a tunned length known as the SWR (standing wave ratio).The length of the antenna is extremely critical.
If a driver enabled the transmitter , but the was no antenna present irreversible damage could be coursed to the hardware.
The antenna will be internal.if the is one.
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The transmitting antenna has to be a tunned length known as the SWR (standing wave ratio).The length of the antenna is extremely critical.
If a driver enabled the transmitter , but the was no antenna present irreversible damage could be coursed to the hardware.
The antenna will be internal.if the is one.
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That is basicaly true, but those transmitters are only allowed to have some nanowatt (in most countries) . I think its rather unlikely an untuned antenna would break the output stage at this energy level. But i am not shure
But anyway, after reading some infos about the chip it looks like it has a seperate Antenna output for the transmitter that needs to be connected.
It seems unlike the Bluetooth part, audio cannot be send to the transmitter over any data path. It has to be connected to dedicated analog or digital (I2S) audio inputs. So the only way this could work at all is that Motorola connected all needed lines and just did not add software support.
I dont know how likely this scenario is ...
The transmitter is normaly controlled over the Blutooth interface via HCI.
Commands can be found here:
http://wiki.lsr.com/GetFile.aspx?File=/SWRU193G - Bluetooth Vendor Specific HCI Commands.pdf
This would be the first.app I pay for.
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