I am looking to set up a hosted exchange for myself. I really only want the direct push but the other stuff would be nice too. The major caveat is that I want to use my own domain. I have a mail2web account, I just don't want adbots looking at my mail, nor do I want a mail2web.com domain address.
So, what is the current favorite solution?
I am also not above hosting my own email server on a linux machine if I can find something cheap and reletively easy. I don't know what servers support it on linux.
I run my own server Exchange 2007 on Windows server 2008. I can tell you that I'm really satisfied. I have a dynamic dns account with dyndns and works perfectly.
It was my first time setting up a Domain but I found it affordable with some google search for issues and explainations. I really didn't know where to start but after some hour I had my exchange working great!
I think is the best mail server, expecially the 2007. And great integration with wm
anyway I'm using these stuff because I have msdn subscription (so the software is free for me) and I had an unused pc which already had 64bit environment and a good amount of ram (exchange is really heavy!)
But without msdn I don't think Windows solution will be cheap. You can try linux but I think it requires more skillness and it has no integration with wm phones
I was gonna say... Exchange is like $700 bux in my neck of the woods. I can't lay out that kinda dough. Plus, I don't have the machine to run it right now. Unless I found a used copy of '03. But, I don't think you can do that.
Anyway, I am always up for learning. I found a program that provides direct push from a linux server, but it was also expensive. I find it very hard to believe that there are no open-source linux solutions for emulating exchange.
I guess I will have to pay someone to host it. The best I have found so far is around $15/mo for one user. The only reason I wanted to have my own solution is so that I could set it up for the family/friends too. I don't want to start a business, but I know my dad would like to have m$ DP.
email [email protected], $5 per month for 1gb storage, he'll alias your domain for you also.
Supports Direct push & OWA (believe me it's more useful than I thought it would be).
Great Service and his Customer Experience is tops.
I've been using him for months.
I may go that way. I really wanted something all in one. I have been spoiled by the convenience of my IMAP access to gmail. Way better than pop.
I really don't want to give up the freedom that comes from only having one account. I just want one account, with my domain, that has IMAP access for home, and OTA sync/push for my phone.
Basically, I want my own exchange server without the costs. Again, I wonder about linux exchange clones but haven't found any free/cheap ones.
Let me know if you're still looking for a hosted solution. I can support Outlook Anywhere, OWA, IMAP, POP3, and best of all can host your domain or you can just point your MX record at my gateway. FWIW, I do spam filtering better than just about any other host out there.
PM me if you've got any questions.
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I'm looking to partake of some vendor's service for the purpose of PUSH functionality. What does everyone here use? Their own MSE box, hosted Exchange, 4smartphone.net, web2mail.com, or some other service?
Personal Notes
- 4smartphone.net looks like the best, but you have to pay a year in advance (no monthly payments). Forget that.
- web2mail.com doesn't look like it supports SP2 which enables Push.
- I don't have a license to run my own Exchange box
- Other hosting services chanrge $15+/month and mostly without SP2.
What else are the choices out there? Now that we have ROM's that support it, I would assume MANY people will be looking for a solution on the server side.
Use vgsmail and keep your current mail server.
http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/
Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl
jeremyjoslin said:
Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl
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I use 4smartphone.net as of yesterday -
I've set up mail forwarding from my belfast-biker.com domain to the 4smartphone one, it sync beautifully, BUT...!
It syncs lovely between OWA (I think that's it, the web-based Outlook thing) and the Exec, but there seems no link with my normal Outlook, and I'm sure there should be.
Also, when I receive emails, they go to my device, and my OWN, but not to my normal Outlook anymore, I'm sure it's coz I've failed to establish a link I should have done.... any help?
I see from another posting in the diamond forum that people have managed to get BB Connect running on the diamond.
At the moment I use system7 on my nokia n95 to get email pushed from my work exchange server, however everyone else in the office has a blackberry (I didn't want one of these hence my finding an alternative solution).
does anyone have any experience of the direct push technology offered with windows mobile 6?
I might use the bbconnect application (if I can get it working) as it appears to do everything I want it to, but I just thought that if there's already an app in WM that does the trick, I might as well stick with that.
You say you have exchange at work?
The push email system will work just nicely with it, you might have to get onto your network admin and see if they offer activesync connection to it but its very likely they do. You sync your email, contacts, tasks and calender with it...works a treat.
I currently use DenaiL's service on here and it works very nicely...you should be up and running pretty swiftly if ur network admin confirms you can use it.
EDIT: Activesync is built into EVERY ROM in windows mobile and this is the primary way to sync the device over the air (via GPRS/HSDPA or wifi to get push email) or via USB.
we have exchange server at work, but I doubt they'll let me add any software (activesync) to it.
Exchange already has the software needed in it, its a native function of exchange to allow a windows mobile device to sync with it.
EAS is a native part of exchange, but it is turned off by default i think.
I know my place have it turned off, despite all the company mobile supporting EAS, and all the employees using HTC devices that natively support it.
Go figure.
I think they want to save a couple of hundred of quid on a certificate, and spend thousands of pounds on corporate intellisync licenses instead.
so my company would have to invest in a new license to enable EAS?
I'm pretty sure they would have to buy a license to allow me to use BBConnect too? I know that we are running 5 or 6 BBs in the company, each one requiring a license....or have I been misled?
thanks, I really want to ensure that my push email will work perfectly on the device when I get it.
I dont own a HTC Touch Diamond or a Touch Pro. I own a HTC Touch and use Hosted Exchange as my primary email service provider. I use the direct-push technology in WM6 and sync with my exchange account. It works like a charm and I have yet to experience any problems with it. I get my email on my Touch within 10 seconds of receiving the email in my inbox.
Memory fades about Exchange 2003, however, I *think* Exchange direct-push is enabled by default on Exchange 2007. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Exchange 2003 w/ SP2 automatically enabled Direct-Push. Same w/ all flavors of 2007. With Exchange 2007, admins DO need to enable Active Sync, but they can do it on a user by user basis if they want to. It shouldn't be a big deal for your IT admins to turn it on for you. Hope this helps.
excellent, thanks for the replies. We are running 2003 SP2, so hopefully in a few days time I might have proper push email. the app I'm currently running (system7) is totally crap at the moment..had nothing pushed for nearly a week!!
This may seem petty to some, but it's a pain to me:
I have a domain hosted by Microsoft, as part of their Office Live setup. Overall it is an arrangement that works very well for me.
Windows Live on my Athena x7510 works exactly as it should, too and I receive my e-mails in just about real time.
BUT on the device the mail account is listed at Hotmail. Yes, I know Windows Live mail uses the Hotmail platform, but the point is MY e-mail address is NOT a Hotmail address.
I have always held the belief that any business using a free e-mail address, such as Hotmail, cannot be serious about itself and portrays an image of being amateurish.
Often, at clients' sites, I may need to show a client a message I've received on my phone, so I don't want any Hotmail bits being displayed.
Any ideas on removing the Hotmail branding?
Am I the ONLY person that wants this changed?
Evidently nobody else has any interest in this!
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\Hotmail]
"FriendlyName"="BrandAsYouWant"
Hmmm, why not getting yourself a real weghosting + domain + email?
x-X-x said:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\Hotmail]
"FriendlyName"="BrandAsYouWant"
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And so obvious once its been pointed out! Many thanks!
Junner2003 said:
Hmmm, why not getting yourself a real email rather than HOTMAIL?
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can you not read?
he has real email, but hosted by microsoft, so his phone THINKS its hotmail
rorydaredkign said:
can you not read?
he has real email, but hosted by microsoft, so his phone THINKS its hotmail
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Yes, I can read and have updated my above post for you, so, you can understand me! Played around with that Office Live stuff from Microsoft myself for a while to see how it works. It is absolutely useless if you really want to use it for business.
Junner2003 said:
Hmmm, why not getting yourself a real email rather than HOTMAIL?
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But I HAVE real e-mail! If you cared to read what I wrote, you'd have seen that my site's hosted by Microsoft.
I have masses of bandwidth, various Sharepoint-type web apps and I can custom build many more, I have masses of server storage, I have secure workspaces that I can share, etc. etc. Go have a look at http://smallbusiness.officelive.com/LearnMore/ and you'll see what I mean.
My e-mail is my own and is branded - it ONLY shows as Hotmail on my Athena x7510.
OfficeLive Small Business might not be everybody's cup of tea, but I work for myself and it suits my needs perfectly. Because of what I do I'm mobile very often and I depend heavily on Remote Desktop. I use it to connect to clients' systems, as well as my own back at the office.
Mobile e-mail is essential to me and in this regard Office Live certainly delivers the goods. I run a custom utility on clients' servers and it alerts me by e-mail of anything untoward on such monitored systems. At times I show clients such alerts when on site, meaning I show them the alerts on my x7510. This is why I needed the Hotmail branding removed, because I DON'T use Hotmail.
Makes sense?
Junner2003 said:
Played around with that Office Live stuff from Microsoft myself for a while to see how it works. It is absolutely useless if you really want to use it for business.
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Can I suggest you don't simply use their freeby stuff and go for the big boys choice? Had you done that you'd not have posted a claim that you can in no way support.
Having just completed a rather large MOSS 07 custom implementation for a client (with the bespoke code written in C# using the VS 08 IDE) I know my way around web servers, web services and web sites.
But I run a business, not a hobby, and I don't get paid spending weeks coding a fantastic web app for myself. Instead, I reduce dev time massively by using Office Live. This is why I find your claim that it is useless for business to be extremely ridiculous.
Perhaps you should learn how to interact with web services? Then you could also pull system info off a server using WMI and write it directly to a Windows Live workspace accessible only to your client and yourself. Business means more than owning a desk, you know?
Yes, I know! I understand that not everyone has the know-how which is needed to run his own site. I understand that some people depend on Microsoft doing the job for them, NanoRuler. Even though OL works one way or another, I wouldn't call this a professional setup for a business solution - I believe Germans call thsi "Shuhflickerei".
During the past 15 years, I have not only set up tiny servers but developed and programmed entire internet portals, so, chill out, get a beer and enjoy the tv program ... !
I've been wondering. Bear with me here. This might be a dumb question. If it is I'm sorry. Just keep in mind that from the outside in this whole exchange thing is tough to understand if one has never used it.
Once you have an exchange client app.
You still need an Exchange server correct? Who provides that? Are the companies providing the Exchange Client Apps also providing us with an Exchange Server?
Ysleiro said:
I've been wondering. Bear with me here. This might be a dumb question. If it is I'm sorry. Just keep in mind that from the outside in this whole exchange thing is tough to understand if one has never used it.
Once you have an exchange client app.
You still need an Exchange server correct? Who provides that? Are the companies providing the Exchange Client Apps also providing us with an Exchange Server?
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Yeah, if you have an Exchange client like Outlook or Entourage, you can access a POP3 or IMAP4 mail server provided by most ISPs, but if you want Exchange facilities like calendaring, tasks, push e-mail etc. then you need access to an Exchange server - you can either buy a license and host it in-house on your own server or you can buy Exchange server hosting from a commercial hosting provider where you can rent a certain number of mailboxes (probably cheaper if you only want a few mailboxes, e.g. a small team).
HTH
G'day.
I've been running Exchange 2003 for myself and a couple of winmo using friends for around a year now, but I really want to use Exchange 2010 for its SMS features and better Outlook web access.
Unfortunately due to the hardware requirement of the latest Exchange, it is not financially tenable for me to host it for a small group. So I was wondering if you guys would like to be hosted for?
Exchange 2010 features specific to winmo (6.5+);
-SMS Sync'ing/backup
-SMS response from Outlook/OWA
-Push
Naturally there is the usual exchange features of contacts/calenders/etc. Don't think I will be able to do Voicemail without messing around with a SIP provider.
I'll also add host server using applications that people think would be nice. For me, that would be TrackMe - others may have other ideas which I will have no issue adding provided it is possible, and it can be shared for us all. Will also be able to allow users to point there own domains at the server, and send from them.
I imagine I should be able to allow mailbox sizes to go between 2-6GB, depending on how many people are interested.
So for this poll, would you be willing to pay $5 towards such a service? I'll try serve for as many people as possible, but I won't oversell the space. Could upgrade specs as and when necessary though .
Feel free to ask me any questions about my idea!
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Exchange is good stuff. I don't think that many people realize the many benefits of using it!
Intrested yes
But a few questions, what about reilibility if your server breaks? are we going to have to change our email addresses?? lastly how fast is your connection as you could get quite a few accounts ???
Thanks
dr_strangetrick said:
Intrested yes
But a few questions, what about reilibility if your server breaks? are we going to have to change our email addresses?? lastly how fast is your connection as you could get quite a few accounts ???
Thanks
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There are a number of ways you can ensure mail delivery without the intervention of the Exchange server
-1. Setup a secondary mail account, and a forwarder as your second MX entry in your DNS config (provided you have your own domain - 123reg.co.uk do this for example)
-2. Wait. The message will be delivered eventually. SMTP servers tend to retry for awhile until successful.
I doubt I will add our own backup exchange server. Although I will backup mailboxes so if the server does die for whatever reason, they can be restored when it is fixed.
Yes, you will be able to use your own domain to receive, and send mail from the server. Obviously, this won't work with domains you don't own (hotmail, gmail etc). So yes, you can use your own email address. Should that be an issue, I will provide a generic address such as [email protected]
As for connection speed - this is not something I would be hosting on my home connection, although it would handle it fine. Home connections are often blacklisted by destination SMTP servers. The server will be in a datacenter with either a 10mbit or 100mbit uplink, in the country where most our users are. However, it is unlikely I will allow more than 30 users on our server due to mailbox storage considerations. I only want enough people to make the server financially viable for myself, I am not out to profit.
Besides, judging from the poll so far, I don't think I'll have enough users to start!
I actually have a hosting setup for a few XDA users. I charge $50/year with "unlimited" storage - I haven't seen any mailboxes grow uncontrollably thus far, so we'll see how it goes. I have two mailbox servers (for those of you in the know, yes, it is a DAG) to ensure uptime. Both servers have RAID 1 hard drives. One is hosted in a datacenter in Chicago (Ubiquity) using a Dell PowerEdge 1950. The backup server is self hosted at home - so mail access may be slow if the primary goes down.
Let me know if you guys want more details.