Hi,
is there any hardware difference between O2 "soon to be released" Diamond Pro and the original HTC Touch Pro? Because the O2-Phone is going to be 100€ cheaper here, I would wait until September, if there are no differences...
Does anybody know something about this?
Bye
Hi can you post a link pls
Should be the same hardware, but it may have a different back (Diamond and Victor are the same device, but different back plate).
I suspect the price difference is because of contract subsidising.
Back is plain and keys are blue instead of green
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=vid...-o2-xda-diamond-pro-windows-mobile-smartphone
l3v5y said:
Should be the same hardware, but it may have a different back (Diamond and Victor are the same device, but different back plate).
I suspect the price difference is because of contract subsidising.
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I mean cheaper without contract/subsity. Don't know, why they are cheaper. Looking at handit.de, also o2's Diamond is ~80€ cheaper then the HTC device. Again, without subisty!
knight14th said:
I mean cheaper without contract/subsity. Don't know, why they are cheaper. Looking at handit.de, also o2's Diamond is ~80€ cheaper then the HTC device. Again, without subisty!
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Possibly because the device is locked to O2s network?
NO! --> NOT LOCKED!!
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Well I was in a little bit of a money bind so I sold my ATT 8525 for $300 and an 8125.. Do you guys think that was a decent deal or should i have sold my 8525 over ebay?
Also, should I look into buying a Kaiser or hold onto my 8125 until something newer than the Kaiser is released?
Thanks
ericc191 said:
Well I was in a little bit of a money bind so I sold my ATT 8525 for $300 and an 8125.. Do you guys think that was a decent deal or should i have sold my 8525 over ebay?
Also, should I look into buying a Kaiser or hold onto my 8125 until something newer than the Kaiser is released?
Thanks
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1. I think it was a decent deal.
2. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345262 - I, personally, wouldn't get the Kaiser because of the unfinished firmware. The Touch Cruiser seems to be a better choice if you don't need the thumbboard.
Oh dang.. when did they come out with this new touch? lol
Menneisyys said:
I, personally, wouldn't get the Kaiser because of the unfinished firmware. The Touch Cruiser seems to be a better choice if you don't need the thumbboard.
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Doesn't the Touch Cruiser have the same chipset as the Kaiser?
If I would have known what I know today about the Kaiser, I would probably have picked another device instead.
"TOUCH PRO" "TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO"
my brain is now doing overtime........
When is HTC gonna give us break?
for the last few months i have been waiting with patients for my Diamond upgrade,
Now reading the Diamond posts and checking out
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
i found out that the so called "TOUCH PRO" IS ON ITS WAY GRRRR!!!!!
What does 1 do????
wait again for it to come out,
which by dat time HTC will most probably bring out the "HTC TOUCH PRO DIAMOND ULTIMATE THINGY" or something....
here we go again.......
My advice dont get the 1st batch wait a little longer and you still wont be happy or have wot you wanted in the fist place...
"that didnt make sense see wot its doing to me"
I will do wot HTC wants:
Diamond 1st then wait for the Touch Pro....
So they can sell the same product again & again & again with suttle changes and a shiny new look....like every other company...
Lets have your comments or advice.....
Forget the Diamond - wait for the Pro.
TheBrit said:
Forget the Diamond - wait for the Pro.
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when's it out though, and what century will it be on orange? i'm nearly tempted to go and get a iphone 16gig.
frustin said:
i'm nearly tempted to go and get a iphone 16gig.
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Bite your tongue man!!
In IT, there is always something bigger and better just around the corner, you just have to decide when your going to bite the bullet and buy a phone.
HTC will soon make something better than the Pro, do you wait for that?
Diamond Pro for me
pro for me
i hope tmobile usa will get the pro by years end .... i like the diamond but the pro is the icing on the cake.... found out that tombile uk is getting one of them soon think its the diamond
I must admit that I'm getting tempted by the Diamond. Rumours are that it will be out on Orange in a few days. Still no word on the Pro.
Play.com say they're going to have them on 29 of August for £549.99
http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/news/2008/07/03/HTC-Touch-Pro-Sim-Free-Priced-Dated/p1
Better start saving up!
expansys have the diamond in stock for around £400 ish, TBH HTC is not that pad, the Pro is essentially the long awaited successor to the Universal, there has been nothing pocetable with a
VGA screen
Fold out Keyboard
and up to date spec like in built GPS and HSDPA
since the Uni in 2005
ice_coffee said:
expansys have the diamond in stock for around £400 ish, TBH HTC is not that pad, the Pro is essentially the long awaited successor to the Universal, there has been nothing pocetable with a
VGA screen
Fold out Keyboard
and up to date spec like in built GPS and HSDPA
since the Uni in 2005
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The Universal isn't the most pocketable of devices... And there have been offerings from other companies (Toshiba G9XX anyone?), but the Raphael is probably the best yet!
lol i guess i must have big pockets, the uni was an excellent device in its time, and whilst there have been offerings from other manufacturers, I was talking about HTC
the only issue with either of these phones with me is that they are both only triband... i need quad..if it wasnt for that I would jump all over either one really.
From what I have been reading, wait for the Pro.. I am
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The Universal isn't the most pocketable of devices... And there have been offerings from other companies (Toshiba G9XX anyone?), but the Raphael is probably the best yet!
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G900, i have one and its higher res than the universal and roughly the same size as the TyTN
800x480. However, res aint everything. I am now downgrading on screen real-estate to an Omni because, whats the point in having a tv that will do 1080p but is only 32inch? There ain't none. I now question 640x480. It's all very well having sharpness but, on 2./3.2inch screens, that are essentialy phones, does it make any practical diference? I'm sure there are people who watch movies on there phones but no one can honestly say they are any good at this - yea, yeah, it will play and you can watch it but, come on, its rubbish quality compared to pmp's.
I spoke to orange cs today regarding the Diamond they said if HTC dont change their mind
it shoud be out by the middle of this month @ the latest.....
I've made my mind up im getting it... "THE HTC DIAMOND"
and i cant wait.
The last time i upgraded it became a 12 month contract in stead of 18 so it aint so bad....
""" if i hear that THE PRO wont be delayed much longer i just mite consider waiting"""
i got my ELF as soon as it was released & within a month they released the Vogue & the Nike...
I was gutted but then when i found out that the Nike aint got WiFi,smaller screen and a slide out keyboard that aint much help etc etc etc...i was smiling again (-)
but as 1 of you said ""DO YOU JUST KEEP WAITING AND NEVER HAVE WHAT YOU WANT""
I want 1 & i want it now.....
I cant believe how many ppl have viewed my post looks like its gonna go a long way.............keep em cumming......
Whats the difference
Between the Dimond and the Pro, is it just the keyboard or something else ?
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Between the Dimond and the Pro, is it just the keyboard or something else ?
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The Raphael also has 64MB extra RAM, and a MicroSD slot, but loses the 4GB internal memory...
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The Raphael also has 64MB extra RAM, and a MicroSD slot, but loses the 4GB internal memory...
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Thanks, no doubt its thicker as well, one of the reasons I sold my Kaiser and kept the Niki !!!
I have a few questions that I'm sure one of you all have the answer to. I am in dire need of a new phone, currently using a pos Treo 750. I am stuck between the Xperia and the Touch Pro as most are. Will the Touch Pro work on the T-mobile USA network? Do I have to wait for a US release of the phone or can I purchase one overseas to use thats unlocked? Sorry for all the question but I'm kinda new to all this.
I am looking to trade my TyTN II for a touch pro. My mobile is used with installed Dutty ROM and WM 6.1 . It is in a great condition with no scratches etc (on mobile or screen). Ill also through in my old Tytn for free wich is in a "usable condition", which means the software is 100% working with WM6 but the exterior is used. Do you think this is a fair deal ? Also, is anyone intrested?
Waiting for your responce thank you
No offense, but this is like asking to trade $15 for $30, then saying you'll throw in another $5.
LOL! I can't stop laughing! Hey, after someone trades you, I'll trade you my old Moto Razor for the Touch Pro!
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LOL! I can't stop laughing! Hey, after someone trades you, I'll trade you my old Moto Razor for the Touch Pro!
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lolololol. I totally agree.
@ OP
Dude. If you really want a TP, a tynt + $300/400 is good. I mean 200 is pushing it. That is unless you live in usa.
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LOL! I can't stop laughing! Hey, after someone trades you, I'll trade you my old Moto Razor for the Touch Pro!
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Then I will trade you my trustworthy (has never let me down) Nokia 3210 plus a brick for your Touch Pro!!
yall are mean. like, really mean. no matter how non-sensical the original post.
I'd trade a touch pro for a tytn III. yeah. thats right, III.
Here in Cyprus the touch pro has the exact same price as the tytn II. I don't find it so strange that you would make fun of. I am sure many people would prefare the tytn II against the touch pro, then again anyone is allowed too have an opinion.
Honestly, if you check prices at your local store you will see that many of the older HTC models are more expensive than the newer ones, and date of release plays little role in these hardware driven devices...
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Here in Cyprus the touch pro has the exact same price as the tytn II. I don't find it so strange that you would make fun of. I am sure many people would prefare the tytn II against the touch pro, then again anyone is allowed too have an opinion.
Honestly, if you check prices at your local store you will see that many of the older HTC models are more expensive than the newer ones, and date of release plays little role in these hardware driven devices...
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Considering the touch pro is either equal or better than tytn II in every way (unless you prefer QVGA) there really isn't much reason to downgrade. Any touch pro owner not happy with the phone would be better off outright selling it than trading for a far inferior phone that does not match the value. I'm not trying to be mean, it really is a bad trade.
HI Guys
Would you say that the Touch Pro 2 is a good/closest replacemnt/upgrade to the HTC Universal?
If not which model would you suggest, is?
Thanks
Calli
its its the successor to the tp1
the next one up i dont know wudve been the shft or something similar
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HI Guys
Would you say that the Touch Pro 2 is a good/closest replacemnt/upgrade to the HTC Universal?
If not which model would you suggest, is?
Thanks
Calli
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That´s a good question
On my opinion is not the "official" succesor but it´s the closer we can have till now on the new devices
Of course that fantastic swivel to move from micro lap top to PDA will hardly repeated again...
Me as Universal user as my main phone/PDA I think it´s a not replacement but it´s something to consider as has nice screen and nice keyboard
I don´t think HTC will launch another device more similar at least in 2 years (Hope I´m wrong)
Just my opinion
I might be wrong but I don’t think HTC made enough money with Universal. Furthermore a Building Successor for Universal would be much more expensive than current existing devices.
With the current economy situation I don’t think HTC will risk putting a device on to market which will or cannot amortise the R&D cost.
I believe TP2 is good/best choice for replacing Universal.
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I might be wrong but I don’t think HTC made enough money with Universal. Furthermore a Building Successor for Universal would be much more expensive than current existing devices.
With the current economy situation I don’t think HTC will risk putting a device on to market which will or cannot amortise the R&D cost.
I believe TP2 is good/best choice for replacing Universal.
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Not sure if they did not make $, remember Universal was launched on 2005 and on that time not any device on earth was so complete and powerfull (Even to this date still compete with new models in some specs!)
Refer to the voting here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
But agree, TP2 is the onlt decent replacement I can see in the future
I read from Brighthand, ASUS is going to produce a similar model. We need to wait for more specs to come out though. Hopefully it will have a faster processor.
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I read from Brighthand, ASUS is going to produce a similar model. We need to wait for more specs to come out though. Hopefully it will have a faster processor.
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Please as soon as you know more about this let all us know!
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Please as soon as you know more about this let all us know!
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Yes, if I find more details and news, I will post a link.
HTC TOUCH PRO REVIEW with pictures
I found this site which has detail pictures and a nice review of upcoming HTC TOUCH PRO2.. well I would say confirmed 100% this baby going to be mine
Germn Page: http://www.areamobile.de/tests/htc-touch-pro-2-handson/
Google translation: http://translate.google.com/transla....areamobile.de/tests/htc-touch-pro-2-handson/
Picture gallery: http://www.areamobile.de/php/pages/...or=HTC&bez=Touch Pro 2&imgnum=0&handyUID=1621
I´ll wait...
I´ll wait for ASUS model that cktlcmd commented
But also have TP2 as an option
Just want to have all possibilities before I renew my device
Well IMHO is strange about upcoming Asus clamshell device.. They have already one model M930 and they have screw up big time in sales numbers with that device.
Anyhow is nice to have choices
orb3000 said:
I´ll wait for ASUS model that cktlcmd commented
But also have TP2 as an option
Just want to have all possibilities before I renew my device
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I'ved looked for a mention of the Asus, but don't find anything.
But do you think the Asus will be as customisable as the HTC phones?
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I'ved looked for a mention of the Asus, but don't find anything.
But do you think the Asus will be as customisable as the HTC phones?
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Don´t know about customization but in fact I,ll be not sure to buy a non HTC device....
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I'ved looked for a mention of the Asus, but don't find anything.
But do you think the Asus will be as customisable as the HTC phones?
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Yes, ASUS, don't have it on their site. If WM is it's OS, I don't see why not.
The WM phones Toshiba released can be customized. What will make ASUS phones different?
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I,ll be not sure to buy a non HTC device....
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For me it's different. If I can stay away from HTC, I will. Until they stop using Qualcomm as their processors specially those 624MHz and below.
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Yes, ASUS, don't have it on their site. If WM is it's OS, I don't see why not.
The WM phones Toshiba released can be customized. What will make ASUS phones different?
For me it's different. If I can stay away from HTC, I will. Until they stop using Qualcomm as their processors specially those 624MHz and below.
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Can't we then petition HTC to change/upgrade their processors?
Does anybody know if they read these threads?
Shall we send them a petition?
calli said:
Can't we then petition HTC to change/upgrade their processors?
Does anybody know if they read these threads?
Shall we send them a petition?
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If you think you can make a difference, go ahead...POWER to you my friend. But in all honesty, I don't think they will listen. I remember there was a petition here regarding those missing drivers sometime ago...what happened? NOTHING. HTC have a good working relationship with Qualcomm. It is not purely Qualcomm's fault, HTC has a bigger role played, I am dismayed at Qualcomm for letting HTC degrade their processors.
Well currently I am struggling again with making my decision.
Currently the Touch HD in Hong Kong cost ca. USD 650-700. 3months later when Touch pro2 will come out the price will be further down to I guess 500-600USD. But in other side the Pro2 sure will cost ca. 800-950USD in the beginning.
Looking to the Technical Spec on those 2 devices it comes down really to the keyboard. Now the question: is it worth TO PAY 300-400$ more for having device that has a keyboard.. What you guys think???
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Well currently I am struggling again with making my decision.
Currently the Touch HD in Hong Kong cost ca. USD 650-700. 3months later when Touch pro2 will come out the price will be further down to I guess 500-600USD. But in other side the Pro2 sure will cost ca. 800-950USD in the beginning.
Looking to the Technical Spec on those 2 devices it comes down really to the keyboard. Now the question: is it worth TO PAY 300-400$ more for having device that has a keyboard.. What you guys think???
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Personally I find myself using the hardware keyboard of my Fuze less and less and the on-screen full keyboard less and less. From what I've seen of the HD I could easily see myself ditching the hardware keyboard all togetter
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Well currently I am struggling again with making my decision.
Currently the Touch HD in Hong Kong cost ca. USD 650-700. 3months later when Touch pro2 will come out the price will be further down to I guess 500-600USD. But in other side the Pro2 sure will cost ca. 800-950USD in the beginning.
Looking to the Technical Spec on those 2 devices it comes down really to the keyboard. Now the question: is it worth TO PAY 300-400$ more for having device that has a keyboard.. What you guys think???
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Its a matter of lifestyle. When I used the Pocket PC I thought I would never need a physical keyboard. But since using the Universal, I wonder how I will do without one! It speeds things up considerablly especially when traveling. I would approach the subject differently - read the reviews and take note of the shortcomings of the HD as a phone. The features of the TP2 outway the cost factor - and you have a keyboard when required. TP2 seems to be more business orientated.
Bulldog said:
Well currently I am struggling again with making my decision.
Currently the Touch HD in Hong Kong cost ca. USD 650-700. 3months later when Touch pro2 will come out the price will be further down to I guess 500-600USD. But in other side the Pro2 sure will cost ca. 800-950USD in the beginning.
Looking to the Technical Spec on those 2 devices it comes down really to the keyboard. Now the question: is it worth TO PAY 300-400$ more for having device that has a keyboard.. What you guys think???
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Well, the amount of $ is a lot!, but as a happy Universal user and having tested a lot of "non physical keyboard" devices, I can say that it will never be compared!
Physical keyboard and specially Uni one is the fastest way to type.
It will depend on the use of the device, if only for watching videos and music then kb is not important, but if you use it for typing mesaages, e-mail and surfing (Like I do) then kb is VERY important...
So if we don´t rush to buy devices as soon as they are launched (Wich compnies want us to do) then we wait a few months and a new one appear and that is the perfect time to buy!
COnsumism will never stop, but we inteligent consumers have to think when is the best time to buy.
Hi, looking to get a PDA after not having one for 2-3 years. I used to have a polaris and before that a wizard so I want to know which to consider to get now.
I would ideally like one with slide qwerty, but not particularly bothered.
I have trawled the net but all too confusing , so many out there now.lol.
I would spend up to £180 second hand. I know they all have their niggles , so what is a good all rounder that can be customised with roms and the like?
I used to flash and flash my old one's with allsorts of roms. Been to iphone and got bored of that so I am off back to the old trusty PDA.
What would you guys recommend??????
Cheers all!!
Stu.
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Hi, looking to get a PDA after not having one for 2-3 years. I used to have a polaris and before that a wizard so I want to know which to consider to get now.
I would ideally like one with slide qwerty, but not particularly bothered.
I have trawled the net but all too confusing , so many out there now.lol.
I would spend up to £180 second hand. I know they all have their niggles , so what is a good all rounder that can be customised with roms and the like?
I used to flash and flash my old one's with allsorts of roms. Been to iphone and got bored of that so I am off back to the old trusty PDA.
What would you guys recommend??????
Cheers all!!
Stu.
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get a kaiser they cheap and good. if you are in the usa i could sell you mine.
Take a look at the Touch Pro 2 (rhodium)...it might fit the bill!
josefcrist said:
get a kaiser they cheap and good. if you are in the usa i could sell you mine.
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Hi, I was thinkin kaiser. Sadly I am in the UK though.....
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Take a look at the Touch Pro 2 (rhodium)...it might fit the bill!
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Hi, I need one with GPS built in ideally. I know the kaiser has it built in does the touch pro 2?
Which one has better customability? As in custom roms etc......
Was touching on kaiser myself but was thinking maybe a bit slow now, which would be the same allrounder with gps and rom cooking?
Thanks.
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Take a look at the Touch Pro 2 (rhodium)...it might fit the bill!
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I second that!
Hi, bought HTC tytn II brand new for £100. I think this is a good deal, u think??
I will play on this for a bit then upgrade when I get back into the swing of things.
Thanks for your suggestions guys.
P.s just one thing , the phone is locked to vodafone, I presume it is quite easy to unlock?
(It used to be!!)
Thanks.
Stu.
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Hi, bought HTC tytn II brand new for £100. I think this is a good deal, u think??
I will play on this for a bit then upgrade when I get back into the swing of things.
Thanks for your suggestions guys.
P.s just one thing , the phone is locked to vodafone, I presume it is quite easy to unlock?
(It used to be!!)
Thanks.
Stu.
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Hi, hope you'll have nice time with your new gadget , it's a nice phone, as for sim unlock check this out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
Stu308 said:
Hi, bought HTC tytn II brand new for £100. I think this is a good deal, u think??
I will play on this for a bit then upgrade when I get back into the swing of things.
Thanks for your suggestions guys.
P.s just one thing , the phone is locked to vodafone, I presume it is quite easy to unlock?
(It used to be!!)
Thanks.
Stu.
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good luck with your new toy.
Hi, Ahh, bit of a development, I got the Kaiser , then I got what I thought was the deal I could not refuse.
I got a brand new HTC touch 2 pro for £230, so now I have 2 PDA's when I only wanted one.....arrrggghhh.
I presume this is a good deal and worth keeping over the Kaiser?
What would you guys do?
The Kaiser is for sale if wanted by anyone. (If pro 2 any good)
P.s Why is the kaiser sim unlock free, but htc touch pro 2 isn't????????
thanks.
Stu.
I'd keep both the TP2 is a far superior device than Kaiser but keep the Kaiser as back up, b.t.w the price you got TP2 for is awesome
If you want to compare the specs Device Database @ top of forum will show you how much better TP2 is