Hi guys
I've just unlock my Orange tytn2 because I want to use a Tmobile UK sim .I did read here sometime ago that flashing Orange phones might brick it.How do I go about using a different rom so as to get Tmobile setting?
Thanks
There is a piece of softeare called connection setup. this will auto detect the network and your tmobile sim and will prompt you to install the settings.
I am on Orange UK and that software was taken off as part of the Orange UK customisation.
Now, usually most cooked ROM shefs have included this Connection Setup software with the ROM. so once you flash your phone (and only do so after you have extensivley Read and Read the froum) you will be able to get the setup automatically.
If you didnt want to go through all of that yet, you need to find the cab (software) and run it. most threads with cab collections will have it.
bammyman said:
Hi guys
I've just unlock my Orange tytn2 because I want to use a Tmobile UK sim .I did read here sometime ago that flashing Orange phones might brick it.How do I go about using a different rom so as to get Tmobile setting?
Thanks
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Make sure you hardspl before flashing a new rom, most roms have connection setup after the flash.
If you want to avoid bricking your Orange TyTN II, and wish to flash a new radio (or new rom including a radio), you'll have to SIM unlock it first.
I did it on a french Orange TyTN II, and everything went fine.
If you directly flash a new radio (alone, or together with the ROM), the SIM lock window will pop-up, and you will have to get the code from Orange before being able to use your phone again.
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Hello!!
I have a question:
i have bought spv e650 that is locked to orange can i unlocked it by instaling other rom (that dont have simlock)??
and if it is posible what rom to install?? VOX?? DOPOD??
or if it is possible can i unlock my curent rom?? cid and sim
Oki, two little things I learned...
There are at least three types of lock.
SIM-LOCK - You're locked on one provider
CID-LOCK - You're locked to one "manufacturer"
APP-LOCK - You can't install some stuff on your phone.
While the APP-LOCK can be disabled by simply using a registry editor (do a search, you'll find tons of answes), the other two are a bit more complex to get rid of.
CID-LOCK prevents you from installing a ROM from a different brand or distributor. Example, you bought a e650 and you want to install the non branded HTC rom? You can't. It will tell you "Invalid vendor id".
For this check the Bootloader thread, some people here can do MAGIC.
For the SIM-LOCK... Well, either you pay your provider to unlock it for you or you go to a company able to do it. Still no way of doing this on our own.
Ka.
so if i remove cid-lock i can instal other ROM, but if i'll do that i will no longer have sim-lock?? is there a ROM that is whitout sim-lock??
Sim lock
Hi
Even if you flash the htc rom that is not sim locked it will not remove the sim lock as this is hard coded onto phone and currently can only be removed by imei check or your network provider, providing that they carry this phone.
I am getting an Orange branded Kaiser next week and will want to revert it to the official HTC Rom, I have never done anything like this so am a bit green. I have downloaded the file RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar
Can any one tell me if this is the official English version of the HTC rom and also is all I have to is follow the idiots guide in the other thread on this forum.
I'd recommend you ask orange for the sim unlock code before attempting this.
Unless you're happy to flash your phone and be unable to use *any* (including oranges) sim in it.
T-Mobile
Subliminal Aura said:
I'd recommend you ask orange for the sim unlock code before attempting this.
Unless you're happy to flash your phone and be unable to use *any* (including oranges) sim in it.
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is it the same for T-Mobile? Had a HTC TYTN and now a T-Mobile Vario III and prefer to have the HTC rom because I cannot get the Windos live to auto sync / as messages arrive post a SR ever
Cheers
D
Your fine to upgrade as long as you don't touch the radio portion of the Rom.
HardSPL your phone, then decompile the HTC rom and create a new rom using only the OS portion. then install using Pofs custome RUU installer.
Cheers
I held back on changing my Orange UK ROM for the same sim-lock reasons. However I simply used HardSPL first & then flashed my phone with the Sleuth ROM as it doesn't touch the radio & therefore bypasses the sim-lock issue.
Am now very happy and de-oranged.
alanwesty said:
I am getting an Orange branded Kaiser next week and will want to revert it to the official HTC Rom, I have never done anything like this so am a bit green. I have downloaded the file RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar
Can any one tell me if this is the official English version of the HTC rom and also is all I have to is follow the idiots guide in the other thread on this forum.
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Apologies in advances for the noobness of this question. I have an Orange Tytn II and would like to use it on O2. I've been using the phone for calls, so it's unlocked. I've got Internet settings for the O2 Stellar from O2 and entered them but it still won't connect making it rather useless to me.
From reading it seems to by because the radio is locked to Orange? CID locked? is that right?
I've successfully run the HardSPL, which I understand will now enable me to install other ROMs. What I'm not clear on is if I do this if I will permanently SIMlock the Orange phone or if the HardSPL gets round this problem and I'll be safe to put on another ROM and so letting me get online and 'deOrangig the phone'.
I've read that I can put on a ROM as long as it doens't touch the radio. But does this releveant only if you want to stay on Orange? Will it let you use another network SIM? And which ROM would that be anyway.
Bit confused as you can see. Any help appreciated.
Hi,
I have just had my Orange Branded HTC TYTN 2 arrive (Think that its called the Kaiser) and I am looking at getting rid of all the horrible Orange branding stuff as its slows the phone right down and just looks ugly. Now, what I flashed the utility on my device (cant remeber the name but its the file that is needed before any flash is done is that helps) so now what do I do? I have downloaded the HTC rom but that is way below the version that is on my phone already (1.81) so that is where I am .. is there anything that I can do?
Thanks
Scott
svssolutions said:
Hi,
I have just had my Orange Branded HTC TYTN 2 arrive (Think that its called the Kaiser) and I am looking at getting rid of all the horrible Orange branding stuff as its slows the phone right down and just looks ugly. Now, what I flashed the utility on my device (cant remeber the name but its the file that is needed before any flash is done is that helps) so now what do I do? I have downloaded the HTC rom but that is way below the version that is on my phone already (1.81) so that is where I am .. is there anything that I can do?
Thanks
Scott
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If you feel brave, you can dump your current ROM, use the kitchen, strip it down, and flash it back. Also, just because the ROM version is lower does not mean the ROM is inferior. HTC ROM worked great for me but I moved to helmic's custom ROM because it was more stripped down.
Unlocked Code Error???
Hi,
I have flashed my orange Tytn with the dutty rom and now its asking me for an unlock code? whats this all about?
is there anyway to revert back to the orange rom if this does not work?
Thanks
svssolutions said:
Hi,
I have flashed my orange Tytn with the dutty rom and now its asking me for an unlock code? whats this all about?
is there anyway to revert back to the orange rom if this does not work?
Thanks
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When does it ask you for an unlock code?
unlocking code
afer it have booted up and installed all the custom software,
its saying the following
SIM Lock
Network is locked. please input your unlocking code.
what do you think?
Thanks
You have sim-locked the phone. With the Orange phones you are only supposed to flash the OS ROM. Flashing the radio ROM results in sim locking the phone so even your Orange sim card won't work. Lucky for you apparently you can get it unlocked by paying one of the guys on here £25. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314547&highlight=orange+sim+lock
go here http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php I have used them before with no problems . You don't have to wait 3 weeks and it costs the same
Or as the advice above , this forum is littered with threads on problems flashing Orange phones , shame someone did not advise you of this . Still get it unlocked and you are free from all that Orange Cr*p and its Network lock
svssolutions said:
Hi,
I have flashed my orange Tytn with the dutty rom and now its asking me for an unlock code? whats this all about?
is there anyway to revert back to the orange rom if this does not work?
Thanks
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You should have read the sticky's on top of this forum first. Then you would have known you need to run Hard SPL first. I've done the same and have no problems with my rom.
You could still try flashing it with hard SPL and then again flash with a rom of your taste, but I can't garantuee it will work...
Hi,
I want to change the ROM on my Kaiser (Orange UK TYTN II) but I am struggling finding some help. I have downloaded all the files from the deconstruct and dump thread but I dont know what to do with them as the instructions dont seems that clear - I know that I need to flash the OS only but I am stuck there. What do I do?
can anyone help me please?
Thanks
Scott
svssolutions said:
Hi,
I want to change the ROM on my Kaiser (Orange UK TYTN II) but I am struggling finding some help. I have downloaded all the files from the deconstruct and dump thread but I dont know what to do with them as the instructions dont seems that clear - I know that I need to flash the OS only but I am stuck there. What do I do?
can anyone help me please?
Thanks
Scott
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The basic is that all shipped ROMs are one flashable NBH file. To manage that file you need two apps. One called NBHExtract to extract the content of NBH file into NB files (search here for it) and htcrt to pack the NB files you need into a NBH. If you need to flash only the OS, then take the 03_OS.NB and pack with htcrt. The use Kaiser CustomRUU to flash the OS only.
Hope that helps you.
Cheers.
Hi, I have downloaded the dutty rom and run the NBHExtract program and its extracted 2 files, now I have used the htcrt and that has created a NB file which I understand that I have to now use the Custom RUU file. Will this just flash the OS file and keep the radio etc? the reason I ask if that I have the Orange UK TYTN 2 and I know that if mess with the Radio file then it will SIM Lock the device. Unless someone else can tell me something else. Does what I have done sound right and will it now work on my TYTN2 without it being unlocked?
I have flashed my UK Orange TyTNII,
Firstly and most importantly i flashed HardSPL which you can find in one of the sticky's, connect your phone and run the .exe file and follow the instructions to install it.
Once i had done that i downloaded the HTC Original Rom, using Winrar i took the NBH file out of the HTC_Original_ROM.exe and placed it in a file. Then using NBHExtract i decompiled it into it's sections (Splash Screen, OS, Radio, SPL, IPL) then i repackaged just the OS.nb back into an NBH file and flashed that to my phone.
Using this method i only altered the OS and I have HardSPL installed for protection against bad flashes.
I did not have any problem with the Phone asking for a SIM unlock code
Hope that helps
Cheers
Mousey
HI,
I am thinking of getting a TyTNII on Orange UK, but because I will be travelling abroad, I want to be able to use local sim cards.
I understand that Orange phones are locked down, what would I have to do to make it 'sim free'?
Do I need to flash the rom as described above?
Also, why is it not good idea to flash the original HTC ROM? The 'sim free' TyTNII can take any sim, whats changed in Orange models?
Thanks in advance for you help.
T-mobile is the same
I would like to get the HTC rom on my Vario III not for simlock just because most of the time the rom is just more stabel how do i do this already flashed my old vario once from wm5 to wm6 but its bin a long time since i have bin here anny help?
roks said:
HI,
I am thinking of getting a TyTNII on Orange UK, but because I will be travelling abroad, I want to be able to use local sim cards.
I understand that Orange phones are locked down, what would I have to do to make it 'sim free'?
Do I need to flash the rom as described above?
Also, why is it not good idea to flash the original HTC ROM? The 'sim free' TyTNII can take any sim, whats changed in Orange models?
Thanks in advance for you help.
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On the Orange TyTnIIs there are two types of locks:
a) CID Lock
b) SIM Lock
The CID lock stops you from loading a replacement ROM on the device.
The SIM lock stops you from using a non-Orange SIM.
The free HardSPL software handles the CID lock issue, allowing the ROM to be replaced.
The SIM lock issue cannot currently be fixed with a free solution. There are people on the forum who can SIM unlock it for you for about 20 quid. This will allow you to use any network's SIM in the device, but in general, has little to do with the ROM upgrade issue (though see next caveat).
If you simply run HardSPL to deal with the CID lock, you can now install a new ROM. However, if you blindly install a ROM that contains a different radio rom to orange's radio rom, then the device will behave as if any SIM, including an Orange SIM, is invalid. To get around this you have two options:
a) Only install a ROM which has no radio rom in it, but only changes the Operating System rom, or
b) pay someone 20 quid so that the phone is SIM unlocked, so that when you run HardSPL and install arbitrary ROMs you have no risk of the above problem occurring.
I went with a), and simply ran HardSPL then installed Sleuth's ROM since it doesn't have a radio rom in it. This worked fine; it replaced all Orange's crappy customisations and works.
Solution a) is not what you are after though. You basically want to use a non-Orange SIM, which means you have to SIM unlock it. This doesn't require the use of any software like HardSPL or any ROM upgrades, but *does* require a 20 quid payment to some bloke (via the horrible paypal system, and apparently he wants a copy of your passport/ID for his safety, which ruled this out for me - I'm happy to pay 20 quid, but certainly not happy to be sending my passport details to men in the shadows). Here's his URL - apparently it takes minutes and is done online: www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Hope that helps.
Thanks alot divert, that explains it well.
I take it that the same is true about T-mobile version as well?
I have bought my HTC TyTN II from Orange Netherlands and the ROM language is dutch... therefore I'm struggling to learn as much as possible from this forum how to change the ROM with a WWE one.
This thread is more closely to my situation and I dared to intervene...
So far I understood that first I have to install HardSPL to be able to change the dutch ROM. This is clear to me. Then I have to choose a ROM version (without Radio in it to avoid locking the SIM). Can you help me in this matter to suggest me a stable english ROM? (also the download link if is possible ).
Then I have to install this ROM. Considering that I never did this before I am a little bit afraid not to permanently damage the phone (is it possible?). Some things are not clear to me.
Do I have to dump my dutch ROM before I install the new one or not?
Is it possible to back up the dutch ROM and in case something goes wrong to restore it?
Is not knowing the dutch language a problem during the installation?
What is the simple and safest way to install the new ROM .. can you please have the patience to guide me step by step in this matter? I would really appreciate this...
Thank you!
Later edit: I can PayPal...
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I take it that the same is true about T-mobile version as well?
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I've no idea roks, sorry. I didn't answer your question for a while as I thought someone who knew might. Perhaps they will. Maybe you need to start a new thread for the TMobile question, as this thread will be read primarily by those on Orange UK I'd guess.
topogan said:
I have bought my HTC TyTN II from Orange Can you help me in this matter to suggest me a stable english ROM? (also the download link if is possible ).
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As I said, I installed Sleuth's ROM, since that does not affect the radio. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343867 - he's put a download link there.
Someone else said that Dutty's Rom also does not affect the radio. Here's the thread for that one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341879 - I have not tried it though, so I can't confirm. If an Orange UK user does try it, please post your results in this thread so that other people can be reassured it works.
Another user, kyphur, is keeping a nice list of current Kaiser ROMs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343198 but it's not clear from that thread which ROMs don't affect the radio. I had to go and read the individual ROM threads to find out. I repeat, Sleuth's ROM does not affect the radio, and someone else tells me that Dutty's Rom doesn't either.
topogan said:
Do I have to dump my dutch ROM before I install the new one or not?
Is it possible to back up the dutch ROM and in case something goes wrong to restore it?
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I did not back mine up, because I wasn't sure how to restore it, so I just took a risk (silly, really, but fortunately it all worked). Someone did put instructions on how to do all this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066 but I was too lazy to do it.
topogan said:
Is not knowing the dutch language a problem during the installation?
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I don't know anything about the Dutch Orange phones. I only know about the UK Orange phones from what I have read on the forum and from my own experiences. I can't confirm that Dutch Orange devices have the same SIM lock issue as UK Orange phones. Even if they don't, though, I'm reasonably sure the same upgrade process will be fine for you, as it only upgrades the Operating System (OS) ROM.
When I did the upgrade, all the instructions were in english and on the PC, not the phone. You don't need to read anything on the phone itself, so I would say no, the fact that the phone language is Dutch should not be an issue. I assume the hardware is the same (though perhaps you have a different keyboard layout, and I don't know enough about the OS to know if this is an issue). If someone else knows better, please say.
topogan said:
What is the simple and safest way to install the new ROM .. can you please have the patience to guide me step by step in this matter?
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All I can tell you is what I did - remember this is for Orange UK TyTnII:
ORANGE UK TyTnII Rom Upgrade Steps:
First, try to read the Stickies at the top of this forum. Even if it doesn't make a lot of sense to you, there might be something important to you there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378
Download Kaiser HardSPL and follow the instructions.
Here is the thread with the download link and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Download a ROM that only affects the OS. I used Sleuth's.
Here is the thread with the download link and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343867
That's it. It's actually pretty simple despite sounding very scary. This is thanks to the clever people on this forum making these tools for us (thanks guys)
how to unlocked simcard from orange network, so i can use any sim.
yup666 said:
how to unlocked simcard from orange network, so i can use any sim.
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This thread is about changing the TyTnII Orange UK Rom, not SIM unlocking it. Nevertheless, your question was answered as part of post #7, which you should probably read.
In summary, there is currently no free solution to SIM unlock your Orange UK TyTnII. You can pay someone GBP 20 to do it for you: www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
ok i recentley whent into trouble with my spv e650 (cant get a signal) and now i cant appunlock this phone ..whats going on?! iv updated to the new orange rom ...i run sda unlock and it first says phone not unlockable and then after i click ok it says sda unlocked - but i done this 10 times alredy and still my phone is app locked. about the network issue, iv been down to my local orange shop and thay said its not a prblem with the arial its a swproblem ...so i want to flash a orange uk radio rom( i seen it on these forums somewhere) - but i need the app unlock to work ;( please can someone help me, as i need this phone for importaint phone calls
thanks alot
Hypola said:
ok i recentley whent into trouble with my spv e650 (cant get a signal) and now i cant appunlock this phone ..whats going on?! iv updated to the new orange rom ...i run sda unlock and it first says phone not unlockable and then after i click ok it says sda unlocked - but i done this 10 times alredy and still my phone is app locked. about the network issue, iv been down to my local orange shop and thay said its not a prblem with the arial its a swproblem ...so i want to flash a orange uk radio rom( i seen it on these forums somewhere) - but i need the app unlock to work ;( please can someone help me, as i need this phone for importaint phone calls
thanks alot
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have alook on Modaco.com
there are a couple of ways I know of application unlocking an orange e650 - there is an official french orange site where you give them your IMEI number and they send you an unlock program. Alternatively you just need to just Pauls unbranding tools - which unbrand the orangeness and then the sda unlock works.
I have attached the two unbranding tools here - upload them to your phone an run the prep one first and then the other.
For full instructions look at Modaco.
Thanks for the reply, i have flashed back to gonzo's 6.1 rom and i have flashed the new orange radio rom, buts still cant get any network covrage, any ideas on this and reg fixes? i know its not an atenna fault because i tryed another orange sim in it and it was on full signal and then 5 mins later its went back down to no signal, i need some help on this issue, i have looked around this forum buti cant find anyone that has/had the same problem.
anyone care to help me?
try a hard reset
Try a different radio. Get them here.
Thanks for the replys, iv done a hard reset and flahed the rom to gonzo's and back to the new orange(uk) rom and to the neo rom, flashed the radio from the old orange(uk) radio rom to the new and back.. still no affect ..does it matter which radio rom do i use? i mean could a diffrent one say from htc work? or can i only use the orange(uk) radio roms?
[EDIT1] Ok i have tryed flashing all 4 radio roms and still no affect
ok tryed all radio roms, reflahed 6 updates (incl dr.gonzo's and the neo rom i like them both ... me want dual boot htc phones....) anyhwho. any tips i have taken my vox/spv apart and there looks like no fault ..like a lose connetion or something, and everything was fine (sucks putting the thing back together with only a phillips screwdriver and a blunt knife - the keybord screen brown ribbon ...ugh never again xD) right thay wher nice storys any tips cause this phone is relly scewing me over ...... real head spinner
oh one idea, would unlocking and changeing the network help? it shouldent change it so ...but woth the ask
bump, need more help
You might wanna flash back the original ROM and use the warranty!
um the thing about that ..is it was a phone of a friends ..that i brought off him for £80 ..so no warrenty ...