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HTC Home Vs O2 Today

Hi
I'm brand new here, and I'm hoping this question may have already been asked and answered but...
I have the new Orbit 2 and really much prefer the HTC Home to the o2 Today.
So I installed HTC Home and it works fine but...
I'm not able to control it in the same as this guy can with the TouchFlo...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5olemDlIRI
I'd like to be able to control it in the EXACT same way; I have UltimateLaunch but it doesn't seem to change the whole screen in the way the video does, just the bit at the bottom.
Am I missing some software?
Many, many thanks
Oliver,.

just bumping my question...

I would be very interested in this too as a new owner of an orbit2
Alfie, can you give me any pointers to the HTC Home app please?

The answer to this thread is actually extremely simple. Remove ALL today plugins except for ultimate launcher then add your HTC plugin onto a tab in UL, then create more tabs with icons and such, set the tab gestures to open/perform the desired tasks and lastly set the height of the ultimate launch plugin to be equal to your entire screen size. After you play around for a bit you will understand. Ultimate launch does not use touchflo, it has its own "touchflo" monitor. I have been using a setup like this for a few days now and am quite happy with it. if you search here in the developer section you will see some threads there for "the better cube", "questions about tabbed today" and others. read those and you will be quite happy.

My O2 Orbit2 did not come with HTC Home, any clues as to where I can get this please?

Do you like Manilla2D/3D or not

Most recent cooked ROM's come with Manilla2D, and now, thanks to the P3D team even with Manilla3D. I personally am not a fan of Manilla, for a number of reasons, and I would like your opinion. So vote please!
I'm hoping for future ROM's without Manilla preinstalled. For the following reasons:
Manilla only shows 1 upcoming appointment. That's not enough overview for me. Furthermore you have to jump through hoops to have it directly open your favorite PIM manager's calendar like Pocket Informant
When wanting to call someone while driving a car, the Cube fits best. I can almost call my wife without looking at the screen once. Scrolling to the persons-tab in Manilla takes a lot of precision and attention.
I use the sound profiles tab in HTC Home Plugin a lot, putting my device on silent or vibrating with one click. I haven't found that funtionality in Manilla
I lock my device a lot, preventing buttons from being pushed in my pocket. Device Lock could be on the programs tab in Manilla (with all my other favorite progs). But then again, it is hard to reach that tab accurately, as mentioned earlier for the persons tab
I really must admit Manilla looks way better than the standard Today screen and it's nice to have something new to look at, but I'm not willing to give up functionality for that.
No disrespect is meant to people who spend their time on cooking ROM's and sharing them with others. I really appreciate everything. I'm just hoping I won't be forced to use Manilla if I would like to use a newer/faster ROM in the future.

Hi deechte
I think that this voting not necessary because both of TouchFlo 2D & 3D will dead when the new version of ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5 will release after a few days and I think that all cooker will add it or at lest release the rom without TouchFlo
follow up this thread to see what will be ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436445
or watch this video
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/the-news/1-latest-news/85-095preview
thx

I really dislike the direction that Manilla 2D/3D takes us. I looks stunning, but like you stated its terrible for us drivers. There is no way to use the phone in landscape with Manilla and it requires a lot of involvement to get where you want to be. HTC Home was elegant, simple point and click, and it worked in landscape also!

secoseco said:
follow up this thread to see what will be ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436445
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Thanks for that information. TL sure looks nice, and I see profiles passing by in that clip. However, it looks as complicated as Manilla to scroll to the tab you want, which indeed takes to much involvement while driving. But we'll see how it really works when it's released.
Btw, just another reason to have a clean ROM, so you can choose for HHP, Manilla or TL yourself.

I agree with deechte. If the ROM comes "clean" every user can install what's best for him/her (in example, I'm used to SPB mobile shell)

deechte said:
it looks as complicated as Manilla to scroll to the tab you want, which indeed takes to much involvement while driving.
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at least you will get more development, support and upgrade not "take it or leave it"
deechte said:
Btw, just another reason to have a clean ROM, so you can choose for HHP, Manilla or TL yourself.
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I partially agree with you because TouchFlo 2D & 3D needs more tweaks to work perfect which normal user can't do it by self

Ultimately, what I would love would be a custom version of Manilla (or even Throttle launcher) that would enable 2D/3D mode in portrait and then HTC Home (or whatever plug-in you prefer) in landscape.

I really like Manilla2D, I wanted 3D but it didn't work and I had to hard reset my phone by flashing a new (but updated at the same time) ROM to get it to work again.
I would love Manilla2D on any ROMs I get from now on.

secoseco said:
I partially agree with you because TouchFlo 2D & 3D needs more tweaks to work perfect which normal user can't do it by self
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You mean that it works better when it's cooked in the ROM?
Well, I don't mind if it's present, if I could just disable it and enable Htc Home.

deechte said:
You mean that it works better when it's cooked in the ROM?
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yes, that is what I meant
deechte said:
Well, I don't mind if it's present, if I could just disable it and enable Htc Home.
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sure you can disable it from Today screen and working as it not present at all in rom, and if you decide that you will not using it at all. you can delete or backup all Manila graphic picture from windows directory to free space in internal storage

Have any of you completely ditched Touch Flo in favor of any other software?

I totally love touch flo but I am not sold that it is anything but eye candy and that other software overlays for WM6.1 might be better.
I was curious if there are people out there who have jettisoned touchflo in favor of something else, and what is that else?
Thanks for your opinions, input and software suggestions.

i go back and forth between wad and manilla

I googled WAD and was soured by what Google thinks I was referencing. )
What are you referencing? Manilla is TouchFlo right, but where does hte manilla come from? What is WAD?

WAD is Wisbar Advance Desktop, here you go:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
There are a lot of nice skins for WAD.

ufufu got it for you
yes manilla is "touch flo"
manilla comes from htc but has been reverse engineered by some developers on xda.

joel2009 said:
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
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i added wad to pda V10 and cant get it to work.. i disabled tf in today but wad still wont display weather etc..
its just a black screen
i really like the look of what wad is supposed to be..
any help is greatly appreciated
thanx

i see it the same way.. Manila2D/TF3D is good only for having your PDA look cool. it's not as useful as a PDA could get.
I set my UltimateLaunch to be as useful as i could using FEWidgets/Makecall (for speed dialing)/Rumball's weather/some internet icons and a networking plugin... and so forth.
..

How do you feel wisbar advanced desktop comapres to SPB pocket plus, do you have any experience?
Glad to hear I am not alone with tf3d not being the ultimate in work horses, I will look into ultimate launch.

by blank screen does it actually look like a blank screen, or does it look like there is nothing on your today screen. wisbar has to be completely designed by hand, or you have to download a theme file.
go here for a theme and tutorial i have put together.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442813

I have the same question and thoughts - perhaps WAD or SPB mobile shell would be a better fit b/c of the greater potential for customization. Can anyone comment on the memory usage / responsiveness between tf2d and WAD or tf2d and SPB mobile shell?

the opposite here. i used to have ultimateLaunch, but when Manila (TF3D) was born, ditched UL and now I am a happy manila user... love the changing themes every now and then, and everything else that comes with it, e.g. great graphics (rain animation is nice) and the close to no maintenance. manila is a little less flexibile the UL, but, pros overcome cons, for me at least.

Touchflo 3D Contacts

I was wondering if anyone has started a app that has the same type of contacts tab that touchflo 3d is running, if so is there a .cab file and is it possible to make it run with Touchflo 2d?

You can't use the same contacts widget on TF2D. You can create your own using flash and use it with FEWidgets/ThrottleLauncher.. if you want to request the creation of such a widget look for FEWidgets widgets creation thread and post a request there.

So I would be able to implement a flash tab into throttlelauncher but not touchflo 2d....is there any thoughts of someone porting over that option or is there yet an actual manilla touchflo 3d cab ported over, or a rom with that packed into it to be used on other HTC devices?

TF3D was ported but is now still in it's infant stages. Also, it requires a massive amount of power and has a few bugs. you will need a strong device to run it properly.

Could you possibly give me the link to the thread were they ported it and uploaed or where they are talking about it..and also when you say a really fast device are you meaning a top wm6 device or would something like the AT&T tilt be able to run it but very laggy, sorry about all the questions..always hoping to learn more.

james23238 said:
Could you possibly give me the link to the thread were they ported it and uploaed or where they are talking about it..and also when you say a really fast device are you meaning a top wm6 device or would something like the AT&T tilt be able to run it but very laggy, sorry about all the questions..always hoping to learn more.
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Look into the Kaiser ROM development thread, There are a few ROMs with TF3D cooked into them! I have a tilt running the L26 V4 TF3D ROM, and it works great for daily use! Very stable and its eye candy! Check it out! And read everything you can!

[SOLVED] Best Kinetic Scrolling app?

Hello all,
I'm recently returning to touch screen WM devices after having a 6.1 smartphone for a few months.
I can't live without finger scrolling so i must ask, which is the best add on for finger scrolling? I used to use ftouchflo, it was ok, but it wasn't kinetic. Then i upgraded to ftouchsl, but it was quite buggy.
Now I see the touch diamond and touch pro/fuze as well as the lg incite with nice, built in kinetic scrolling. Is there any way to port such an add on to the Tilt? (The phone i'm using) or are there any good alternatives?
Thanks!

does anyone have any input on this or is this sub forum just dead?
I've tried all different types of add ons and i'm really just looking for some users' opinions.

it's christmas lol wait and see what people say later on today

I don't think there's anything better to use than the FtouchSL...

use HTC Touchflo instead of ftouchflo, or ftouchsl,. it have so many option anyway,.

I beleive that if you install TF2D found on the development and hacking forum it will include HTC Touchflo, which works great as far as I am concerned.

htc touchflo is far more superior than ftouchflo or ftouchfloSL. I have tried both on my Polaris. The kinetic scrilling in HTC is very good.

You have a HTC Tilt yes? If so, is touch scrolling enabled? (Settings->System->TouchFlo, if that doesn't exist, I suggest you flash a cooked ROM, most of which contain TouchFlo built in).

-G- said:
use HTC Touchflo instead of ftouchflo, or ftouchsl,. it have so many option anyway,.
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The only and big advantage ftouchflo/ftouchsl has over HTC touchflo is that it is cofigurable. while using the handwritten notes (I use PhatPad) the touch scrolling can be switched off while using ftouchSL/ftouchflo whereas it remains a pain in thw [email protected]# using it with HTC touchflo.

Thanks everyone. I had a hermes a couple months ago and when i put m2d on it, it didn't include touchflo for the whole system. Apparently it does now? I'll try an m2d rom on my tilt when it comes in a day or two and see what happens.