Hello,
While the thread for questions in the Development forum seems to be an o.k. idea, I believe that there should be an entire forum dedicated to questions. The questions thread seems to have become a mess, with a ton of discussions all mixed into one giant thread.
I think that an entire forum should be dedicated to just questions and answers, instead of just one thread. Shorter threads allow users to find information more quickly, and also makes information easier to find in a search.
I don't know if this is the completely wrong place to post this or not, but I just think that this needed to be seen, and that things could be made more simple and easy.
YES! great idea (no sarcasm)
we totally need this. people don't know where to post their question and they end up posting in either development (Where its not supposed to be) or the thread of the program that they need help with (where it never gets answered)
BRILLIANT!
Any moderators thoughts on this?
isn't the whole forum concept about asking and answering...
there is no need for aditional forums
why would you ask questions about eg artemis in some "qestions forum" when you can ask it in the artemis forum,where others have artemis and experience with it
i mean i get bugged by questions that are asked 1000times but the new forum would be useless
farukb said:
isn't the whole forum concept about asking and answering...
there is no need for aditional forums
why would you ask questions about eg artemis in some "qestions forum" when you can ask it in the artemis forum,where others have artemis and experience with it
i mean i get bugged by questions that are asked 1000times but the new forum would be useless
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The "General" forum has so many hits because many users have dealt with multiple devices. So, if there was in fact a "General Questions" forum, the Development & Hacking thread wouldn't become so cluttered with random questions, along with the sticky thread.
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Is probably because of the fact that people who really knows the answer do not care to read this part of the forum. Agree people?
There are plenty of people who read this section of the forum every day and come up with answers.
chill.
Do people really read this section? and answer?
Shalom Nir,
In almost 2 years of daily reading in the forum I have to admit I hardly read the question section... Look for yourself at any given moment - over 600 view the hack part, less than 10 in the question part...
Do the math - it is x60 likely to get an answer if it is published in the hack part. Not that you are not right, it is against human nature..
hehe. the questions & answers section only exists for about... 2 weeks now... that might be the reason
if you post in the development and hacking now you are asked to post here (or yelled at) and your thread may be moved or deleted. people are in that section to work on or download software, not to answer questions like "which is better, throttle launcher or wad"
as the section grows more and more, and people become more aware of it, they don't answer your questions there.
Another thing, when people log on they usually do look through the questions section to see if they can be a help, but if they can't then they move along. in other word people don't "dily-daly" around, they get the job done and then move on.
percisely put.
Every time I visit this site, I pay a visit to the Questions and asnwers forum. (since the QandA section has existed) First I check my previous posts to see if I can help those people first, then I search the QandA section to see if I can help with some of the new questions. If I can Help, I do try, if I can't I don't say anything and I leave to begin my own searching and reading, I constantly check back to New Posts to see if anyone has any new quetions I may be able to help with as well. This section does not show many people visiting because you don't need to stay long such as in the DandH section. there just isn't that much reading to do here as there is there.
Well put answers...
Sorry for playing the devil's advocate for you guys. I just pointed out what seems obvious. i did not even notice the Q&A section is that young... Silly me.
OK, you got me, from now on I am going to pay a visit to this section (as I just did). I don't post much but I am a WM user for 3 years now, starting with ETEN G500 , moving on with HTC P3600 and hopefully getting a touch HD as soon as it is supporting 3G in the US (yes, i still hope it will in the near future against current posts). My poor trinity is my witness, as there isn't one WWE ROM I did not test...
Since i am not a cooker, nor a talented graphic designer, I will try to help on this section as much as I can. Thanks for all the cookers , they are the ones to blame I hardly sleep since i was introduced to this forum...
i'll drink to that
Theoretically I agree with those defending the section. However, I just posted a question and 368 people are in dev and hacking and 1 person is in Q&A....me. Maybe it will take a little time for people to journey over that way. we shall see.
it doesn't matter how many people are in the Dev&Hack section and how many in the Q&A section.
the dev&hack section is NOT intended for questions, it's intended for Development and Hacking.
the fact that people spend most of their forum time there is natural because they can get the latest updates for their apps.
you can't expect people to sit in the Q&A section, it's pointless. as joel said, you pass by, check if there's something you can solve, and move on.
So, should questions and answers remain in a single thread as they are now, or are they better of in their own Q&A subforum, with a separate thread for each topic?
Yes I know this is a new thread but I think it qualifies for one
this is gonna get merged into that big thread!!!
i think it should be a sub forum because:
1) the links don't redirect you to the post, it only takes u to the thread, which is huge
2) sometimes the answer is 10 pages behind the question, completely out of order
There is already an extire Q&A subforum. There are a lot of very wonderful users helping out over there. We probably wouldn't even need a Q&A thread here if people would just post their questions in a thread that already addresses the topic, or actually search before starting a new thread. Either way, this topic has been addressed before, and we're not gonna add device specific Q & A subforums at this point.
It's not hard to see which way this poll's gonna go!
It realy should be a sub forum, but it don't need to be a device spesific subforum. As long as the question have a tag for what device it's about.
The problem with the long Q&A thread is that it's impossible to search up anything in it. You can search and find someone that have asked the question you wanted to ask, but there is no way of searching where the answer is.
I do see some benefit in one long Q&A thread, that is to ask stupid question that most other forum users know, but if it's a more difficult question that only a handfull of member can answer it needs to have a own thread.
As it was pointed out one of the most important thing to do is to make sure everyone makes good topics for their threads. If someone make a thread called "Help, it doesn't work" they should be banned for like a week.
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It realy should be a sub forum, but it don't need to be a device spesific subforum. As long as the question have a tag for what device it's about.
The problem with the long Q&A thread is that it's impossible to search up anything in it. You can search and find someone that have asked the question you wanted to ask, but there is no way of searching where the answer is.
I do see some benefit in one long Q&A thread, that is to ask stupid question that most other forum users know, but if it's a more difficult question that only a handfull of member can answer it needs to have a own thread.
As it was pointed out one of the most important thing to do is to make sure everyone makes good topics for their threads. If someone make a thread called "Help, it doesn't work" they should be banned for like a week.
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There already is a Q & A subforum, so i'm not sure why everyone keeps asking for one. As for the Q & A Thread, I think people forget that it's not intended to be a resource like the wiki. I created it as a safe place where users can ask the same silly questions as many times as they need to. Most of the time if users had really searched then they would't be creating new threads constantly anyway, but rather they'd find the answer or post in another thread on a related topic. I think a lot of the confusion is caused by people thinking that the Q&A thread is supposed to a searchable resource. IMO if the answer isn't really eays to find in the Q&A thread you should just ask it again. I have tried to monitor the responses to make sure people aren't flaming users for now searching, as that thread is a flame free zone.
I am no longer able to post questions or respond to questions in dev forums. What am I missing here?
I tried to post on a HTCHD2 forum and the message I got was if you have less than 10 total posts, you aren't allowed to post. I found that very frustrating as I (i) had an answer for someone (which was educated) and (ii) couldn't ask a very specific question about a significant problem I was experiencing with the mod. So, now I'm trying to post 10 "meaningful" posts...argh.
Gents,
The rule was put in place for very specific reasons, in that new members were spamming the develpoment forums with questions that if they had bothered to search would have found the answers.
This nuisance was putting developers off; i mean what good is a develepor forum without developers???????
The correct place for questions is the Q&A forum NOT developer forums. You should ONLY be posting there if you are a contributing to the thread/development or be dev'ing yourself.
Trust this explains why, enjoy the forums and please be aware of what you are posting where.
Cheers.
Tim.
Thanks, and I do understand the thought process. But, it's discouraging to see people with 300+ posts that are posting ill-educated and noobish questions, while I couldn't post a question which was valid and I had done my research...even the developers are sometimes poor about how the threads are used. By the way, likely most of the users here are gents, but not me...:> After posting some thoughtful replies elsewhere, I was finally able to post on the "proper" forum. I do think you are getting a lot of questions in the general Q&A which would best be addressed in the proper forum, but they can't post there...Anyway, have a great day!! And, thanks for replying to us.
Okay, so you would rather questions in the Q&A section rather then in the threads dedicated to the ROMS?
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Gents,
The rule was put in place for very specific reasons, in that new members were spamming the develpoment forums with questions that if they had bothered to search would have found the answers.
This nuisance was putting developers off; i mean what good is a develepor forum without developers???????
The correct place for questions is the Q&A forum NOT developer forums. You should ONLY be posting there if you are a contributing to the thread/development or be dev'ing yourself.
Trust this explains why, enjoy the forums and please be aware of what you are posting where.
Cheers.
Tim.
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The rule had said that it was applied to users that joined after a certain date but members that have been here for awhile but acquired new posts were also affected when it was put into place.
i have some questions about developing roms and i'm willing to learn and get started.
i posted my question in the Q&A Forum 19 Vies now answers on page 2 allready.
My question are directly pointed to develop roms for samsung galaxy tab. so the dev's who could help getting me started have to read but they can't since they won't look in here.
Great ^^
Frustrating because frequently no replies. For example, I posted a question - 77 views, 0 replies. However, at least I can now post on the relevant forum! LOL.
have a great day...
Hey Guys n Gals,
Let me make this clear for avoidance of doubt.
Device specific forums generally have their own Q&A section, so if it is device specific, ask it in there.
If it isnt device specific ask it in here.
Dont ask general questions in developer forums for example "how do i root my xxxxxx" , they will get moved to Q&A or at worst deleted.
These are the rules, they are here for everyones guidance and to prevent dev forums from being cluttered with n00b questions.
Trust this makes things crystal clear, if not feel free to pm me.
Cheers.
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I didnt want to post this in any particular thread because i dont want to flame on anybody, but if your thread is a question about functionality, it does not belong in the general section. Please post things where they belong to help keep the place tidy. This sections should be for general discussion, not really troubleshooting. Thanks guys.
I have thought this (or similar things) over the last few days. More and more people seem to be posting very similar threads, and repeating questions that have been already asked (& answered) - not to mention threads that don't really seem to have a purpose.
As a fellow noob, I suggest that we don't clutter up the board with duplicate issues and things posted in the wrong forum. I don't want to wear out our welcome. We need xda!
Is there an easy way to move a thread if you have already posted it in general rather than Q&A?
I don't know if it's the same here, but at most boards I'm on you can ask someone to report your post and leave a message requesting that the thread be moved by the mod.
Usually you can't report your own posts, is why you have to ask someone else.
I'm bumping this so it hits the top again.
t1mm0, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums.
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I've been visiting XDA for many years and always find the answers to my questions via searching rather than posting questions.
I've therefore never had the requirement to post in the development section but I do now regarding ICS RC4.
I realize that there are many users who never search and *do* post stupid questions but is there any way for someone like myself to skip the 10 posts?
This isn't perhaps the best titled thread but I kinda feel like this since I'll have to post another 8 stupid threads before I can get to the folk who may know the answer to my question.
If you want to post a question about something related to a ROM, try looking in the Q&A section for the ROM you're using. You can post there without the 10-post limit, and unless you're bringing up a specific bug or have some sort of code to contribute to the item you would be posting under, that section should be able to handle whatever you would need.
New users should really read this I suppose.
I know it makes sense. I just needs an answer quickly
t1mm0 said:
New users should really read this I suppose.
I know it makes sense. I just needs an answer quickly
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If the Q&A isn't getting you where you need to be, you could always try the waters of sending the developer in question a PM. Depending on how swamped they are, you might get the answer you're needing a lot quicker.
It's really a stupid rule. What it should be, is 50 posts to make a thread in the dev section.
Sent from my SGH-I897
I can see the objective of it the rule but yes, 50 posts to start a new thread in the Dev section would make more sense to me.
Agreed. I lurk, learn, and do. And I'm grateful to those who do develop on this platform. But I can't participate because I haven't passed the magic 10-post rule.
And I'm a software developer (not Android) by trade, so I understand what facilitates discussion and what does not, and I have a pretty good idea what are reasonable questions and what aren't.
The purpose of the Dev section is to post about developing not questions that is what the q&a or general
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t1mm0 said:
I've been visiting XDA for many years and always find the answers to my questions via searching rather than posting questions.
I've therefore never had the requirement to post in the development section but I do now regarding ICS RC4.
I realize that there are many users who never search and *do* post stupid questions but is there any way for someone like myself to skip the 10 posts?
This isn't perhaps the best titled thread but I kinda feel like this since I'll have to post another 8 stupid threads before I can get to the folk who may know the answer to my question.
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There are specific threads set up in Q&A for most of the ROMs, including ICSSGS RC 4. Post there and you'll be read, and most likely answered.