Hi Ladies and Gents-I am having the WORST time finding a solution to my battery life problem. I've even goten a replacement device from AT&T in case it was an internal problem.
Sitting idle during the day except for the device checking email every hour, a text here and there, and an occasional 5 minute phone call; my Tilt ends up at 20% at the end of an eight-hour work day.
Others have indicated that they've had upwards of 70% battery at the end of the day, with much more device use!
I've had the battery tested at Batteries Plus, and they conclude there are no bad cells nor leakage.
I live in the Indianapolis area and am using Radio 1.64.08.21 and Utty's April 29th Hybrid ROM if that's useful information.
I also use GPS golf software, but can only last 8 or 9 holes. It's madening!
Can someone help?
Thanks....
i think you answered your own question. the gps drains the battery like crazy
sd73ta said:
i think you answered your own question. the gps drains the battery like crazy
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I agree...gps is a killer
sd73ta said:
i think you answered your own question. the gps drains the battery like crazy
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Thanks, but I thought about that. The other folk have the same device and use their GPS actively without disabling when not in use...
maiahsdad said:
Thanks, but I thought about that. The other folk have the same device and use their GPS actively without disabling when not in use...
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Well, if you leave the program running in the background instead of closing it, then it will continue to actively use the GPS. In which case 8 hours would be a good battery life. Try actually exiting the programs that use GPS when you are not using them to see if that affects the battery life. Some roms will kill the program if you click the X in the corner, and others only minimize it. Just a thought.
skatdawg said:
Well, if you leave the program running in the background instead of closing it, then it will continue to actively use the GPS. In which case 8 hours would be a good battery life. Try actually exiting the programs that use GPS when you are not using them to see if that affects the battery life. Some roms will kill the program if you click the X in the corner, and others only minimize it. Just a thought.
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Obviously, your not just complaining about battery life on the golf course. That does sound like abnormal battery drain during a regular day. I had the same problem when I had push email active.
I hard reset , reloaded all my programs without push email , and my battery life was back to crappy normal. 100% to warning popup in about 24 hours.
The push email was keeping Edge connected all day despite my settings in Kaiser tweaks/Advance Config.
skatdawg said:
Well, if you leave the program running in the background instead of closing it, then it will continue to actively use the GPS. In which case 8 hours would be a good battery life. Try actually exiting the programs that use GPS when you are not using them to see if that affects the battery life. Some roms will kill the program if you click the X in the corner, and others only minimize it. Just a thought.
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Thanks for the thoughts. I appreciate all of you input. This is exactly the first thing I did when I noticed the drain. I set my preferences to "CLose Programs When Tapping X". I also double-check with the "running programs" tab in the top, right corner of the Today screen. At least I feel good about trying the right things to help my situation.
I'm thankful for any and all input. I hopefully will find a solution soon.
denco7 said:
I had the same problem when I had push email active.
The push email was keeping Edge connected all day despite my settings in Kaiser tweaks/Advance Config.
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Thanks so much for you input. Now... I'm using the email setup program that came with the ROM. I set up my POP 3 account (somehow it reverted to IMAP but still works) with SBCGlobal and all works well. but what I DON'T know is if this is PUSH mail. Not familiar with how it works exactly.
i would never use the GPS unless its pluged in...
In the car gps on, I leave plugged in
I also use gps today, cool little program too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370384
Listening to music via bluetooth and leaving gps on all day will kill the battery. 4 hours at best.
I charge at my desk and listen to bloototh music, (people think just an IT guy with bluetooth ear piece)
Charge in the car Listen to music, GPS and take calls.
I try to stay above 50% on battery if I can, just in case I want to flash a new rom when I get home.
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
i would never use the GPS unless its pluged in...
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If IT refers to the GPS being plugged in... Uh... it's integrated. But if you mean the DEVICE being plugged into a charger... that's not possible if I'm outside of the vehicle. And for my golfing program, carts don't have chargers (I usually walk anyways).
But there's definitely something going on that's eating my battery.....
I appreciate all of the comments thus far.
Hi maiahsdad,
It was me who was getting 70% at the end of a day, what can I say, not anymore... I don't know what the problem is - but i was using the same configuration (Leos V7 with included radio). last week the percentage was falling in front of my eyes... i didn't know what to do, flashed again and again different roms and radios, still no god results. I'm now on Leos v8 light with SPB Shell on top of it, but am not happy with my battery life AT ALL... 7% of battary gone in standby overnight - used to be 3%. the only thing is I have BT onn at all times.
looking for a solution....
slovoflud said:
Hi maiahsdad,
It was me who was getting 70% at the end of a day, what can I say, not anymore... I don't know what the problem is - but i was using the same configuration (Leos V7 with included radio). last week the percentage was falling in front of my eyes... i didn't know what to do, flashed again and again different roms and radios, still no god results. I'm now on Leos v8 light with SPB Shell on top of it, but am not happy with my battery life AT ALL... 7% of battary gone in standby overnight - used to be 3%. the only thing is I have BT onn at all times.
looking for a solution....
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Hi slovoflud, you could try to remove spb shell and see if it is eating up your battery. I used to install it but now no more and I noticed some improvement in battery life. The radio included is the best IMHO in terms of battery life.
dereknas said:
Hi slovoflud, you could try to remove spb shell and see if it is eating up your battery. I used to install it but now no more and I noticed some improvement in battery life. The radio included is the best IMHO in terms of battery life.
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are you talking about V7 or V8 ?
I'm using V7. I have not tried V8 yet because I'm waiting for V9 but I would think that V8 should perform the same.
slovoflud said:
are you talking about V7 or V8 ?
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I've found V7 & V8 to be refreshingly light on battery usage with the 1.58*** ROM that was found to work.
denco7 said:
The push email was keeping Edge connected all day despite my settings in Kaiser tweaks/Advance Config.
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I ran some tests - which I have a hard time believing - on Push on/off and the Kaiser Tweak settings for a constant connection. The tests were run over three evenings (so I was sure I was not using the phone for calls or data sessions). I found that having push on, off or the Kaiser Tweak settings for disconnect after 1 minute or constant on made no difference. Obviously, if you get a bunch of email from the Push connection, that will make a difference but my intent was to check to see if the persistent data connection made a difference in battery life; it did not.
The reason I did this I found that the Kaiser Tweak setting for automatic disconnect prevents simultaneous data and voice connections in HSDPA mode; which is key benefit to using HSDPA, at least for me.
Like I stated; results I have a hard time buying but I have repeated the tests with the same outcome.
As a result, I just leave the Kaiser Tweak setting at constant data connection and turn Push Email on when I need it (usually during the work day when I am out of the office).
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are you talking about V7 or V8 ?
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Thanks to both of you. Is there a cab for V8 that I can download. I don't have it currently so I KNOW that it's not causing my battery life problem. But I would like to try the cab.
Thanks.
maiahsdad said:
Thanks to both of you. Is there a cab for V8 that I can download. I don't have it currently so I KNOW that it's not causing my battery life problem. But I would like to try the cab.
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400118
over there
I have to kind of disagree with the whole push email thing draining battery. Yes it makes sense but heres my scenario
I'm using Dutty's Diamond V1 ROM
Radio: 1.65.16.25
I'm using Windows Live for my Hotmail acct. which pushes my email
I have Blackberry Connect software from 3 other email accts. for my job
Always using H signal 3.5g speed
Bluetooth stays on even though I don't use it because I find that I save battery life when I keep it on.
Yesterday I charged my phone it was at 100 percent in the morning. Haven't charged it since and right now 3:00 pm eastern time my battery is at 64 % casual use. Which is by far the most pnenominal life I'd had. I'm going to see how long it'll last before it dies.
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Since two days I'm having a huge power drain on the faria WM6 WWE os. Anybody else having the same problem. I already edited my reg (HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement change this value to 0.) but it won't help.
power drain is losing approximate 5% of battery within one hour...
Never I had this problem with all the others WM6 os versions (until now). And this is bad because I love the faria os versions. Theire good, fast and stable.
i have noticed the same thing, i thought it was something extra i installed but most of the wm6 roms i have tried are battery hungry, i wonder why? if my phone is 100% and i dont make any calls 2 hrs later i go to use it and its at 75%
mun_us rom is wm6 and the battery has never lasted so long since i had it
when i first flashed the rom it installed this cab file straight away with others i have attached it maybe thats whats helping out my battry life
Save That Power
Open up Batery Status by Clicking and Holding the icon for it on the home screen. Tweak the OMAP settings. Set the over clock to or around 260. Then turn the scaler on. set this to the original cpu Speed. That should help. Worked for me.
stp55 said:
Open up Batery Status by Clicking and Holding the icon for it on the home screen. Tweak the OMAP settings. Set the over clock to or around 260. Then turn the scaler on. set this to the original cpu Speed. That should help. Worked for me.
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I had noticed the same with this ROM and tried to enable the scaler. It had no impact. I moved back to mun_rus which as easymob says is much kinder on the battery.
It would be useful if some could confirm his thoughts on this.
I notice that my battery will drain faster when I am using my EDGE connection for internet or streaming purposes, but for anything else the battery seems to last much longer (sitting idle or simple phone calls)...
easymob said:
mun_us rom is wm6 and the battery has never lasted so long since i had it
when i first flashed the rom it installed this cab file straight away with others i have attached it maybe thats whats helping out my battry life
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What does it do?
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What does it do?
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It activates power management for you sd card.
The default setting is off wich means you sd card is running at full power thus draining your battery faster.
With the setting on, power is only consumed when you're actually using the sd card therefore saving your battery.
I used the CPUScaler from BatteryStatusTool which is in rom. Setting it to 121mhz, so battery last for a long time. in standby the cpu dont needs so much frequency, even with programs like im+ in the background.
try this:
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My only suggestion is to turn off IR. That should save you some juice.
It works for me!
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My only suggestion is to turn off IR. That should save you some juice.
It works for me!
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I just noticed the drainage also. I'll try your suggestion....Thanks
Infrared modules are very efficient in recent devices so should cause very little battery drain at all. I remember a report someone did using their Axim on Aximsite.com and they reported that with IR off the overall extra operating time bonus was less than a minute.
No Probs with MB WM6
I had battery issues with other WM6 roms, but don't have that issue with MB WM6 rom. Not sure what is different.
Try putting your pda near a bunch of IR devices, and watch your pda get battery drained!
neonkoala said:
Infrared modules are very efficient in recent devices so should cause very little battery drain at all. I remember a report someone did using their Axim on Aximsite.com and they reported that with IR off the overall extra operating time bonus was less than a minute.
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Today al of a sudden my battery started draining rapidly. I have the Faria now for a week & was very happy with it. But now my power drops extreme fast. I have nothing new installed. I enabled the powersaving for SD, but that doesn't help. Wondering what's causing this all of a sudden drain.
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Try putting your pda near a bunch of IR devices, and watch your pda get battery drained!
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Well that's pretty obvious, I meant when the unit is in standby because generally the Wizard isn't going to be near/communicating with IR devices. In standby it is very efficient like most things compared to being powered up. Also I just got Noviiremote coincidentally and I found that the IR module was pretty weak, especially compared to my old Axim, I have to be very close to use it. If its weak then its probably not using much power so I would say IR, unless being surrounded by IR devices a lot is of insignificant drain to the battery.
I also had the powerdrain issue with the Faria rom; but when I deleted the SC.lnk and javapushservice.lnk with the StartUp Manager it seems I lost the powerdrain issue.
I disconnected my phone at 7am this morning and now it's almost 11am and I lost 3% with use of Pushmail, Internet GPRS and 2 phonecalls.
Krypt said:
I also had the powerdrain issue with the Faria rom; but when I deleted the SC.lnk and javapushservice.lnk with the StartUp Manager it seems I lost the powerdrain issue.
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What does these two do? especially SC.lnk? - Sorry. I got the ans. Thanks anyways. I will test and let the forum know.
SC.lnk is the shortcut to rotate the screen; that one should probably have no effect.
The javapushservice.lnk starts the elatepushservice; I assume that one consumes the power
Is there a tweak out there that stops the stupid battery from guzzling? Im tired of charing it constantly and I swear it takes hours and hours to charge it back to full power. The thing cant last longer than a day without loosing power I cant stand it. Whats making it use all that power? I thought maybe if I switch wireless it would help but I didnt notice a difference.
I can get 2 days out of my battery.
I let it drain to 1% and then stick it on charge over night. When i get up the battery will be at 100% and then 30 minutes later down to 90% but it settles down after that.
I do not have wifi and bluetooth on all the time, just when I need to.
sORRY DOUBLE POST................
Archangel22 said:
Is there a tweak out there that stops the stupid battery from guzzling? Iam tired of charging it constantly and I swear it takes hours and hours to charge it back to full power. The thing cant last longer than a day without loosing power I cant stand it. Whats making it use all that power? I thought maybe if I switch wireless it would help but I didnt notice a difference.
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I don't understand people telling battery lost for 2 days..... even if we keep phone idle it will lose power in 24 hrs i believe....try like this try to use ROM with out manila & with manila once you will know the difference other than that there is some tips to save battery in Energy ROM thread in 3 rd 0r 4th post ..
4 days normal usage.
Manila2, GSM
15 minutes call, 6~10 text message, sync exchange, 30 minute ebook reading per day
If I build rom myself from the kitchen. It usually runs for 2-3 days.
However, in most cases when I try decent cooked ROM, for example, Energy - battery drains in about 5 hours. That's been the case with other cooked roms as well.
I suspect that some popular configuration change done by cooks causes battery to drain in certain environments. Would be nice to find out which change is that.
Processes and services often place a strain on the life of the battery; add to the mix a buggy service or application that further shortens battery life and one has an unusable device.
Another habit that can shorten Li-ON battery life is full discharges - near 0%. One of the members put out a thread a while back on research he/she had done on batteries - worth the read if you haven't already.
Cheers,
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If I build rom myself from the kitchen. It usually runs for 2-3 days.
However, in most cases when I try decent cooked ROM, for example, Energy - battery drains in about 5 hours. That's been the case with other cooked roms as well.
I suspect that some popular configuration change done by cooks causes battery to drain in certain environments. Would be nice to find out which change is that.
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I just had the same experience, cooked for the first time and my battery was better than it has ever been!
Since then I have flashed to RRE 21731 6.3 and it seems my battery has stayed the same (Brilliant, 2 Days no problem).
The only thing ive done differently is I have used the new UK Voda rom as my Stock Rom that i flash before flashing custom, and i believe this may have something to do with it...What, I don't Know.
I also believe changing the Radio After a flash can affect battery life, I always try to flash a new radio before a Custom rom.
I have wondered for some time wether the European Touch Pro is slightly different to the US Fuze in its hardware, Since most Cooked Roms are configured for the Fuze maybe that is what it is?
maybe we will find out..One Day
turn off 3G and you will get much better battery.
Get a Blackberry Bold. My phone has been on for 2 days, sent around 150 texts, got in 150, I'm at 85%
ukjock said:
I can get 2 days out of my battery.
I let it drain to 1% and then stick it on charge over night. When i get up the battery will be at 100% and then 30 minutes later down to 90% but it settles down after that.
I do not have wifi and bluetooth on all the time, just when I need to.
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That will ****-up your battery, you should never let it drain to 1%, just charge it when you have the time, preferably before it drains to about 20%.
I guess it all depends on the eye of the beholder, I come from the Diamond part of XDA, and we are lucky to get 24 hours on the Diam.
I was happpyyyyy with my new TP battery life -compared to Diam that is-
But ya, turning of 3g and being picky about processes and back light helps.
Greets to all.
Search the development and Hacking thread for Windows Long Life/save your gonads. Chainfire is developing a neat application to automatically switch from 3G when not needed. I tried an early version and it seemed to significantly increase my battery life.
Check my sig....it tells you how to deal with Li-ion batteries...
battery stuff on my site
Check out chapter 17. I cover this pretty thoroughly.
Archangel22 said:
Is there a tweak out there that stops the stupid battery from guzzling? Im tired of charing it constantly and I swear it takes hours and hours to charge it back to full power. The thing cant last longer than a day without loosing power I cant stand it. Whats making it use all that power? I thought maybe if I switch wireless it would help but I didnt notice a difference.
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An app that may help is Advanced Task manager, it has a widget to end all running processes/tasks which i tap before putting mine to sleep about 1000+ times a day it seems. go in and exclude ones you may want to exclude always and then its as simple as 1 click. as everyone else said, no gps,wifi,3g when not 100% necessary. also, get widget "toggle disply" from rounded labs and keep your screen completely dim (not like you can't see it...), being able to make it bright when you step outdoors. Also, toggle backlight app for root users keeps the pesky keyboard backlight off when you don't want it on (suggest making keyboard shortcut for quick toggle). last but not least because i'm sure theres plenty more, but yesterday i switched to cyanogen's newest stable ROM and it seems to be much more effective than any other i have tried in the means of saving battery life. had wifi on after a 98% charge for about an hour and a half (30mn usage) and it only went down to 91%... wow. "and that's all, i have to say, about tha-aat"- Forrest Gump
Firstly I don't think this is the right sub-forum for this question since it's not a specific ROM question.
Secondly, try nueDynamicClock, if you use the right settings, you'll extend your batt life by at least 1/2 a day if not more.
alexnoalex said:
If I build rom myself from the kitchen. It usually runs for 2-3 days.
However, in most cases when I try decent cooked ROM, for example, Energy - battery drains in about 5 hours. That's been the case with other cooked roms as well.
I suspect that some popular configuration change done by cooks causes battery to drain in certain environments. Would be nice to find out which change is that.
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It's really very simple. Flash an awesome rom, and the battery burns and burns. Flash a rom you hate, and the battery lasts forever. Don't over-think it.
hi guys.
i was eager to start up this discussion and am glad to find it here itself.
even am really finiky about battery.
tried alot of thing but cudnt find any spcl tweaks.
though i came across some registries from advanced config and other wise also but they seem to be more worse.
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
when i use these tweaks the power consumption of my rom reached to 4.112 volts(as per power detect) which otherwise without these tweaks is 3.992 at startup.
more power consumption i guess means less battery i guess.
and even if its not still these tweaks as per my usage show bad results.
why so?
and arnt there spcl application which can detect the packages which might consume more battery, as i have over 50 packages in my rom and it'll hell to check which eats more.
Some tweaks I do
I have also found for me that disabling these things in advanced config also helps.
Performances
> File System cache: Disabled
> File System filter cache: Disabled
> Glyph Cache: 32kb (advised) I'm not sure if disabling this one is a good idea. I like having a little bit of glyph cache on my device.
Light senor
> Light sensor polling: Disabled.
*Note: If you want to still have light sensor on (this means the auto backlight feature) I would set the:
> Light sensor polling interval: 2000. This will make it poll every 2 seconds instead of every .2 seconds. I would even try setting it to 5000.
The backlight will make a huge difference on how long you battery will last. The brighter it is the more the battery needs to light up that screen. If you turn off the polling all together it will make the battery last longer.
Also running fancy UI apps will also deplete the battery more. Just common sense really as another poster alluded to earlier. The more things you have running and sucking up memory the more battery it will consume. If you disable TF3D or other apps such as this you will get your battery to last longer. Given that these devices are meant to have these types of programs on them you will have to weigh the options of how much you really want to "tone down" your devices to get the most out of your battery.
Also different radios will cause you battery to last longer. I suggest to everybody that they try different radios to see which ones last longer. Also people who live on the edge of 3G and EDGE area will cause the battery to drain faster as it constantly switches in and out of 3G coverage.
WMLongLife is a great app if you don't need 3G while you phone is just sitting in you pocket. It works great for me and when I want to use 3G I simply launch opera and the program will automatically enable 3G once again.
There are many things that you can do to improve your battery life. I encourage everybody to find what is best for them given what they use there device for and try and test things out. The best way to tell which works best for you is to simply try it out for yourself.
**NOTE** I also set all ROMs that I flash with a page pool of 0. I don't know if this has any real effect on battery life but it does seem to make my battery last a little bit longer. Not sure if this is a placebo affect though.
first thread.
im using energy rom, the battery dies in a day.
anything i can do to make it last longer?
thanks in advance.
dim your brightness
there are lots of things you can do, dim the brightness is one (turn off automatic adjustment of the brightness too, so it stays dim)
make sure any pop3 email isnt checking too often
turn off push mail
there are some hardware disable cabs i used on mine, i dont remember the link but they are from ninjaduck on ppcgeeks
use NRG's service disable cabs to turn off background services you dont need
although even after all this mine still only lasts about a day, but its ok for me since it docks on a charger every night
one more thing to keep in mind, CDMA phones will always have shorter battery life than their GSM counterparts, since CDMA phones have to keep in constant contact with the tower (so the radio is always in use)
I've used to rum sprint stock rom and my battery lasted me only a day if even that. But now, I'm running my own clean and simple 6.5 no manilla rom and my battery last last like 3 days.
Definitly backlight adjustments will help. Also there is a setting under the WIFI, for Performance which made some diference on mine. The big thing is to make sure: Bluetooth is off when not in use, because it'll search non stop, same thing with WIFI, keep it off, when not in use. And the big thing I did, I switched my email, to check every 2hrs, rather than on demand. I went from 4-6hrs to an easy 10hrs. Hope something helps!
Also, when I'm using apps like Trapster, or a radio streamer, you obviosly need to keep the "system" on, which includes your screen, And when I started using a Screen Off App, I noticed a pretty big diference.
what is simple 6.5
delfin12 said:
I've used to rum sprint stock rom and my battery lasted me only a day if even that. But now, I'm running my own clean and simple 6.5 no manilla rom and my battery last last like 3 days.
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I got this phone from someone, and it has manilla of some sort, what kind of rom do you have? where did you get it from?
Thanks
I built it myself using Calkulins kitchen. Is your TP2 HSPL unlocked? If so, I may be able to upload it for you so you can download it, PM me
Since OC'ing my device, I have been getting 2-3 days per charge using the stock Verizon MR2 release. Others who have OC'd have noticed the same thing. Check the OC threads both here (where it all starts) and on PPCGeeks (where we talk about what we find on XDA).
Stock Sprint ROM. Seidio 3500MAH Battery. 3G always on. Surf over 3 hours a day, make quite a few calls, signal in both my work location and home are not that great, so phone looks for a signal a lot, and Stream video from time to time. Doing this, the battery still lasts about 8 to 10 hours. My wifes phone has a stock battery and lasts about 9 hours without doing all of what I do on mine. Her battery sometimes is down to 10% or less. Mine never gets under 25%. If I am streaming from my SlingBox, I can get about 3.75Hours out of my battery.
Improved Battery Life!
Tybalt39 said:
Since OC'ing my device, I have been getting 2-3 days per charge using the stock Verizon MR2 release. Others who have OC'd have noticed the same thing. Check the OC threads both here (where it all starts) and on PPCGeeks (where we talk about what we find on XDA).
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Similar experience for me. After OC'ing my stock 6.5 MR2 VzW TP2 with OCT v1.5, turning off push email and push internet, etc., I can get 2 days most of the time.
Bully Dawg said:
Similar experience for me. After OC'ing my stock 6.5 MR2 VzW TP2 with OCT v1.5, turning off push email and push internet, etc., I can get 2 days most of the time.
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I'm new to all this. What's OC'ing stand for?
overclocking
Here are the settings I'm running on CM7 to get amazingly bananas battery life (with the display being on for about 5 hours!)..
1. Conservative governor: 245mhz - 1017mhz in CM7 settings
2. Install the 'BatteryCalibration' app from the market. This app caused the single biggest improvement for me after having flashed so many roms and never calibrating the battery. If you've calibrated it before though, I don't think it'll be very useful for you.
3. Install 'NoBars' from the market to automatically turn on airplane mode when you have no service. (This might be useless to some of you if you always have a signal; Very useful in NYC subway though)
4. Use a 2G toggle widget to have the phone only use the Edge connection when you only need it to receive calls/ texts and don't need the high speeds. I use the toggle widget in the CM7 notification bar. HUGE battery saver.
Give these a shot and let us know how they work for you
I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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As you can see by my display being on over 3 hours, I used my phone a heck of a lot today and still have over a third of my battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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Question: It's cool that your display was on for 3 hours, but what did you do as far as app usage??
If you did use your phone "a heck of a lot" wouldn't some apps like "internet" "maps" or something show up on the battery use %'s???
For example, currently, other than phone idle, cell standby, voice calls and android, there's also internet, mail, maps, and other apps that I used today alot.
Good observation. I have no idea how android chooses which apps to show on there, but I think it depends on the ROM? I remember on Iced Glacier cell standby would barely use 5% of the battery and on CM7 it uses >40% consistently. Idk.
Maybe what those apps used up here was nothing compared to the display, wifi and phone idle time.. Just a guess.. But I did use the browser and xda app and listened to music via the Rdio app running in the background several times throughout the day, and sent multiple texts and have had my wifi on for about 5 hours now. I can't really find a menu that would show these statistics except in the Spare Parts app, and here you go..
I got 17 hours just yesterday with 9% left with moderate to heavy use (texting, web browsing and ps1 emulation).
I didn't do anything besides use faux's kernel with the smartass govenor. I have the max speed overclocked to 1.8 as well...
Nice. I just got over flashing new kernels for a while since the stock CM7 one has everything functioning perfectly and new kernels would improve on something but mess up something else in my experience.
I can't seem to find a 2g toggle widget that works with Royal Glacier. (one touch, I've found a few that take you to settings) When I was running Royal Ginger I would always use the one that came in the notification bar.
Wifi status is also a good app to remind the forgetful to turn off wifi when they leave the Area.
Aspeds2989 said:
I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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This is GREAT battery life... i wonder what word i'd use to describe mine.
i Pulled my Phone off the Charger this morning @ 7:20pm EST. Now it is 3:13 EST. and i've got ~50% left. So thats what like. 7 hours
neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.
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neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.
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since my last boot. 8:10AM when i loaded the new CM7. 1h 1m 59s.
Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-Battery-Charger-HTC-Mytouch-4G-Merge-/290556738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.
Maybe. All I know is my battery increased dramatically after running that app once.
I measure battery life by how many hours I am able to keep my display on before it dies rather than how long after it comes off the charger (like nedilinger does). My battery used to die after about 3 hours of the display being on. Now it consistently lasts 5 hours.
Anyway, I was just trying to let others know what I did to get a really good battery life on my phone thinking it might be helpful. Apparently that's not appreciated. Thanks tho.
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Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.
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How long does 1 of those batteries last?
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simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.
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simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.
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does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?
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does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?
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Better than what's reported under CM7. The battery life I posted above was on RG.
you say you don't sacrifice 4g but you admit you have a 2g/edge widget?
To me "not sacrificing 4g" means not ever turning it off, maybe i'm mistaken
I had battery issues, I'd have to charge it mid day else it would die. Juicedefender helped a bit (claimed to do 1.7x battery life) but I uninstalled it, rooted the phone, and uninstalled a bunch of stock apps
For some reason now my battery lasts a very very long time, don't know how or why that is. I also admit I don't use it as heavily as some people, but my habits have not changed and I did have to charge it mid day (like i said) even with little usage
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Obviously, it's hard to say without describing how I use my phone, but I get probably 10-15 hours of medium-high usage. I probably get about 4-5 hours of talk time. I'd say the Chinese ebay batteries probably last 80-90% as long as the OEM battery. Quite decent considering the price.
My earlier thoughts about the BatteryCalibration app could be wrong. I don't really know all the details about how Android battery calibration works. I just assumed that it simply learns about all the bad spots in your battery so that your phone doesn't instantly jump from 80% to 30%. I also assumed that the phone would die when the battery had no power left, as opposed to when it says 0%, but maybe that's not the case. Regardless, if it helps you, more power to you and I appreciate you sharing the app. I didn't mean to come off as an unappreciative ****. If I did, sorry bout that.
Background: I have had phone 11 months. I am very familiar with how the battery drain is while it is stock (WiFi ON all the time). battery lasted ~16h which is plenty for me.
Rooted phone, Battery Life on AR14 and IceColdSandwich (and others) was around 20h with WiFi on all the time and light use.
Recent Kernels (anything IceColdSandwich 3.0.0+ or AR 23+ (haven't tested between 14 and 23) cause a base of around 50mA of drain even when phone is locked. Battery life is ~8-10hours WITH NO USE. I have tried these ROMs without installing ANYTHING on them with the same results.
Current Widget does not identify an offending program from what I can tell.
WiFi off, the phone lasted 2d9hr of pretty light use.
I first started looking into WiFi when I forgot to turn off airdroid and unplugged the phone for 3 hours. I found AirDroid still running but could not connect to it via laptop or desktop until I tinkered with the phone a bit more and the WiFi connection cycled.
However during this time, the charge lost on the battery was a reasonable rate, and after the WiFi connection cycled it dropped like the usual rock.
What I've tried:
WiFix
WiFi polling interval increase
Cleaning/checking battery cover contacts
Changing battery covers
Battery Calibration (which is a myth from other reading I've done)
A couple of different programs like Juice Defender.
On the list to do:
Try a different Kernel
Root my friend's phone and trade him hardware (he says he never uses WiFi, so it won't be an issue for him)
/wrists
Thanks for all the suggestions and help so far. I understand that the problem is pretty obscure and seems rare.
on icecoldsandwich ive seen quite a few people show an improved battery draining using lordmods newer bfs kernel. maybe give that a try and report back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
kernel: http://goo.gl/ZqBZl
btw, very good informative question. its heart warming usually we get 'my battery sucks yo, fix it!' haha
Here is some irony.
Exitz ICS AR25 has been on the phone for a couple of days and has lost essentially 10% per hour when not on the charger (been off work in my house) After the 4th day, I installed AirDroid and AngelCamera. I took it off the charger last night...
92% 6 hours later AND the phone has been awake(?) all night...
Seems I left AirDroid 'running' but couldn't connect to the phone through AirDroid until after the WiFi cycled...
I will see how the drain is today. I'll out of the house all day tomorrow (half a day in Denver), toggle off the wifi for a day at home, and then try your suggestion Darunion.
Here are a few screen shots (first two are old), and honestly, I don't know how much I trust the battery stats.
IceColdSandwich 2.0.0 pretty much shows that battery life I have been used to for a long time including before rooting. Not AMAZING, but not fail. (WTF Proximity Recaibrator 29% of Drain on a 16 hour day?) Also note this is about the same rate of drain I experienced with Existz AR14 last week. Light use and ~16-19 hours of battery life. Not amazing, but I can live with it.
IceColdSandwich 3.0.0 pretty much shows the battery life I have been getting with any ICS roms since.. well 3.0.0 was released. Oh and the voice call that is 37% of drain lasted less than 10 minutes.
Existz AR25 (someofthedrain.png) the steep drop was a 20 minute phone call...
And Finally Airdroidwtf.png is the same install three nights later (this morning) If I could get battery drain like THIS on a regular basis...
Anyway, I'll keep trying to isolate this down to the specific 'area' of the phone that is causing it....
Edit: and as for Darunion commenting about the information I've included... I'm a patient person, I don't want to be a drain on the community, and I have no issue trying to solve a ROM, APP, Radio, RIL, Or watever issue. I'm only posting because the issue isn't unique to a ROM but is unique to a time frame AND the issue is not solveable via Google or XDA search
Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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I have not specifically toyed with the covers as part of trouble shooting. I will be sure that I look at them after my battery finishes charging on WIFI.
It does seem to be more a software difference, (I've casually be at this for the better part of 2 months) as I have seen expected performance when flashing back to a ROM I've used.
Thanks, I like being able to limit variables and this will be one I check before charging the phone again.
(What I'd really love to do is convince my brother or one of two friends who have the Inspire 4g to let me root their phones so I can trade them phones for a week and really isolate out hardware issues
fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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Right now, I'd like to figure out WHY my WiFi is so bad on battery drain with later AOKP releases.
I'll try to rule out hardware issues (I'll look into antenna and MAYBE convince a friend to let me root their phone and trade them for a week... if not then covers at least.)
But likely this is something about newer releases and how my WIFI is setup. I don't live in a high-density area, so it's not because of too much wifi trafficz (I can barely see a 2nd wifi with any device and it's on the opposite end of the frequency choices.... by my settings)
Anyway, I am a very patient person, so I'll continue working on this slowly so that I can be thorough and find the real cause of the problem.
What I would wish is for someone to point me in the direction as to how WiFi MIGHT drain the battery so hard for later releases but not earlier. I'll be reading up more on logcat and how to read it in regards to wifi... but searching and reading is hard because 'wireless' and what not are very vague terms
Now at 1% (still) and 2d9h... is MORE than double my record on the first roms I tried after rooting OR my stock rom. and MORE than quadruple my record on any of the newer roms
I've swapped battery covers with a friend this past weekend, and the WiFi being on still drains the phone considerably (~8%/hr) when turned on. So if it's a hardware issue, it's not in the battery cover.
Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
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Thanks for taking the time for this response!
I started by running current widget for about a week and with a 3 different roms AR23(?), IceColdSandwich 2.0.0, IceColdSandwich 3.0.0.
I was stock for 11 months, and ICS2.0.0 was a little better than battery drain than stock. AR23 and ICS3.0.0 were terrible and pretty much ran a constant 50ma drain asleep or awake as a baseline.
I'd really like to figure out what the difference is with the older AOKP and the newer AOKP, but that may never happen.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
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I've been testing with stock roms since a couple weeks before I posted this thread. This is because current widget didn't really show any specific program causing the issue, so I wanted to make sure that I didn't have some issue from my installed programs.
The most I've installed (out of necessity is AirDroid and AngelCamera) in the past few weeks. Both were installed when I ran without wifi on one charge for 2d9hrs.
(I don't have a google+ account, I don't have juice defender or any task managers aside from the stock rom)
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
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I'll do this and see if that helps things. Thank you
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
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This is likely going to have to be my solution. Just run cell data all the time unless I am doing something specific like downloading files or uploading pictures.
OR
Maybe I can convince my friend to let me trade him phones (root his and nand backup and then restore all his stuff to my phone) and see if it is about the same drain. His phone was bought a couple months after mine AND from a different vendor, so it isn't going to be out of the same manufacturer's lot.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
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Thanks again. I'll definitely try the wifix along with the rest of your suggestions that apply
I'm in the same boat you are. I'm running ics aospX ar-26 and I can barely get mine to last from 8 til 4. Wifi is pretty prevelent around here and I leave it on most of time. I guess I could try turning it off til I need it. Anyway I'll be following this thread.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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I actually have read quite a bit about battery calibration... and before I flashed a new ROM, I've made sure that current widget has been tracking 0ma for a while. (Only reliable way to be sure you have a full battery from what I can tell)
The batterystats.bin file and calibration has been ... contended in a number of places, mostly stating that when taken off the charger 'full' the battery stats file is overwritten... which makes calibration a non-issue (assuming that you occasionally charge your phone for a while after it hits 100% from time to time)
The problem is that the WiFi mA draw is HUGE compared to what it should be (in theory from reading other people's logs), and it's not because of the battery cover. AND It's not as bad in older AOKP ROMs than it is in newer ones. SO it could be a hardware issue exacerbated by a change in how WiFi is handled, but the hardware issue was never noticed because the battery life Stock was sufficient for my needs.
I've been busy working so I haven't been able to continue troubleshooting the phone (damn my patience), but Mondayish, I'll likely have traded my phone with a friend and root it and flash a new rom and see how the drain is with completely different hardware from a different vendor from a different lot of phones.
I had a similar issue with wifi. I changed the build.props wifi supliment scan from every 15 seconds to 180 and used the wifi fix manager apk. That seemed to help. Coupled with a proper battery calibration and I'm back to my display being the major battery draw.
So don't know if that helps but it seemed to work out my bugs.
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This I can do right now.. and given I'm on the same, unmodified AR24 release, I can observe it for the weekend before I annoy my friend about his phone.
Seems the WiFi scan interval was already set to 100... moved it to 180 anyway.
I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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The phone ran for 2days 9hours with WiFi off and lasts for 8-10 hours with WiFi on. I am pretty sure that it's not a Radio/RIL or a Battery capacity issue. ;(