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Still no body knows how to unlock the ext-rom? I try everyehere here, but still no one can do it?
I've been wondering that myself since I moved over from a PDA2k and saw how easy it was to do it there with the Unlocker tools.
Apparently, since it's so comparatively new and the architecture is allegedly different from some of the other models, the only individual who went far enough to hack it is no longer active or no longer a willing participant in the community. His much-appreciated hack simply cleared out the Extended ROM area and moved it into the usable Storage memory area.
Until we get more people who are acclimated and bold enough to risk tinkering with their Magician models, it's either an all-or-nothing scenario when it comes to the Extended ROM. For me, I decided to hold out from installing the "BigStorage" hack until I know we can easily go back and forth without jeopardizing our devices with SD card-flashing techniques. There seems to be too many variables (read: ROM variations) to make me feel comfortable about possibly flashing some other carrier's version or rendition of the ROM onto my i-mate NA-850MHz JAM.
Ext rom
Ok Beondthetech I understand - it's not to easy load aplications to ext rom (like MDA2) . We wont personalize our devices after loading system ( after Hard reset ). Aplications like ewallet , callmanager , ... etc. Metod is not relevant. W wont only automatically instal other programs ( not included on rom ). Or what's the metod to enrich orginal rom. But I prefer upload ext rom. Tools like Unhide and Unlock not work ( Error: FL_IOCTL_HW_PROTECTION- Yhe parameter is incorrect). When I try something write i saw Cannot copy : error code 19 The media is write protect (after use loadvdisk.exe) Thanks for all replies . Sorry for my english.
As I understand it, the memory configuration and layout is different between the Blue Angel and the Magician devices, so the Unlock tools won't work.
I decided to remove my Extended ROM portion altogether and use Anansky's BigStorage hack. I now have 27MB of Storage area instead. I copied out the Extended ROM's CAB files and incorporated it into my normal "build" when redoing all my applications on a new device.
How to make your own ExtROM for the Magician
I recently managed to make my own ExtROM for my Magician.
A short howto:
1. First dump your rom to a SD-card, using the well know method.
2. Next get the rom to your pc, using ntrw
3. Using a Hex-editor, copy 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) to a file.
4. Mount that file as a virtual Harddisk (I use the virtualdisk-plugin for total commander)
5. Modify your ExtROM on that Virtualdisk.
6. Umount the Virtualdisk.
7. paste the contents of the (modified) file back into the rom-file, at precicly the same position and save it under a different name.
8. put the modified rom back onto your SD-card, using ntrw.
9. Flash your Magician, with the new rom.
Have fun with your modified ExtRom
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DrChair said:
I recently managed to make my own ExtROM for my Magician.
A short howto:
1. First dump your rom to a SD-card, using the well know method.
2. Next get the rom to your pc, using ntrw
3. Using a Hex-editor, copy 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) to a file.
4. Mount that file as a virtual Harddisk (I use the virtualdisk-plugin for total commander)
5. Modify your ExtROM on that Virtualdisk.
6. Umount the Virtualdisk.
7. paste the contents of the (modified) file back into the rom-file, at precicly the same position and save it under a different name.
8. put the modified rom back onto your SD-card, using ntrw.
9. Flash your Magician, with the new rom.
Have fun with your modified ExtRom
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Does that remove the simlock?
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Oesie said:
Does that remove the simlock?
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Nope, it's only a way to customize which things are installed after a hard-reset.
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
Hi!
I can not find this section in my file. i use hdd Hex editor. see the attachment. thankx
Pamela said:
Hi!
I can not find this section in my file. i use hdd Hex editor. see the attachment. thankx
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You miss understand. 2BC019C (HEX) is Location not Content.
ups...
Sorry... :wink:
thankx
Pamela, he is referring to the exact position in the file, not a hex string to search for.
The idea is that you're ripping a chunk out of the ROM dump and turning that into a mountable volume, to which you can modify the contents, then inject the modified chunk back into the ROM dump, then SD-flash your device.
3EC019C hex = 65,798,556 decimal
2BC019C hex = 45,875,612 decimal
65,798,556 - 45,875,612 = 19,922,944 bytes
So, from the ROM dump you make, you'll be ripping out nearly 19 MB into a file that you'll use as a "virtual hard disk" to make changes as necessary.
WinHex and UltraEdit are two good hex editors, and WinHex is good for ripping chunks out and injecting them back in (you don't want to "insert" the code, but replace the 19,922,944 bytes with your modifications - inserting will make the ROM dump file larger and corrupt it).
little_frog said:
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
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I was trying to understand Anansky's bigstorage rom, by comparing it with my own rom, when I stumled over something that looked very much like a FAT16 bootsector. So I had the start-address. Knowing that the size of the ext-rom was 1300000 (hex) it's simple math to find the end-address.
DrChair said:
little_frog said:
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
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I was trying to understand Anansky's bigstorage rom, by comparing it with my own rom, when I stumled over something that looked very much like a FAT16 bootsector. So I had the start-address. Knowing that the size of the ext-rom was 1300000 (hex) it's simple math to find the end-address.
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Thanks.. DrChair
BeyondtheTech said:
Pamela, he is referring to the exact position in the file, not a hex string to search for.
The idea is that you're ripping a chunk out of the ROM dump and turning that into a mountable volume, to which you can modify the contents, then inject the modified chunk back into the ROM dump, then SD-flash your device.
3EC019C hex = 65,798,556 decimal
2BC019C hex = 45,875,612 decimal
65,798,556 - 45,875,612 = 19,922,944 bytes
So, from the ROM dump you make, you'll be ripping out nearly 19 MB into a file that you'll use as a "virtual hard disk" to make changes as necessary.
WinHex and UltraEdit are two good hex editors, and WinHex is good for ripping chunks out and injecting them back in (you don't want to "insert" the code, but replace the 19,922,944 bytes with your modifications - inserting will make the ROM dump file larger and corrupt it).
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Wow! Is it possible for any1 to make an App that will do this Automatically? similar to the bytecopy app provided by some1 in this forum(great work btw!)? Or go the distance and upload a cooked ROM with the most useful apps that will go in after a Hard Reset?(based on the experience of the gurus and nice peeps in the house)
Use at own risk.
Sorry if it sounds too technical, but theoretically, one can go into the bootloader mode of the Magician and just dump the Extended ROM area to the SD card (i.e. d2s 82BC019C 83EC019C [untested!]), then 'ntrw read' it, mount it, edit it, unmount it, 'ntrw write' it, then 's2d 82BC019C 83EC019C' to write it back to the Magician.
I haven't found any documentation on 's2d' so that might be the reason he's dumping the entire ROM, then extracting the Extended ROM portion.
There are a good threads on how d2s/s2d is used on an iPAQ and an XDA II, but I'm sure it can be applied to most Pocket PCs:
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=46855
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/PDAforum_posts.asp?TID=62&PN=1
And these are possible commands and its arguments for use in the bootloader mode:
http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/h2200-port/1/0146.html
Hi!
I have problems to mount the file to a disk. What ending should the file have? *.iso *.nrg ???!!!
i also have problems with total commander. the plugin does not work...
Plz HELP!
Pam
Hi!
now i fixed my problems... thankx
But an other question:
Is it possible to create a small ext. Rom only for IIWPO so that the rest of the Storage is useable to install Programms in?
What about a NEW self cooked Rom with IIWPO. There are many threads about this with the other HTC devices. Is it possible with the Magician without loosing the Big Storage??
Thankx. By, Pam
BeyondtheTech said:
theoretically, one can go into the bootloader mode of the Magician and just dump the Extended ROM area to the SD card (i.e. d2s 82BC019C 83EC019C [untested!])
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That would be d2s 82c00000 83f00000
BeyondtheTech said:
I haven't found any documentation on 's2d' so that might be the reason he's dumping the entire ROM, then extracting the Extended ROM portion.
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I didn't know that command existed. I thought i tried that once (s2d, without any arguments) to flash back a entire rom when I'd put back the sd-card when i was already in BL-mode, but iirc that gave me an "Invalid Command" message...
Anyways i'll give it another try this weekend.
And thanks for the url's, already googled for boatloader commands but found none
Pamela said:
Is it possible to create a small ext. Rom only for IIWPO so that the rest of the Storage is useable to install Programms in?
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I'm still trying to figure that out aswell, but uptill now without any succes...
It would be nice to have approx 10 MB ext-rom and the rest added to storage.
I have updated to 1.13 Big Storage, and now im missing a few tiny but helpful things.
before my jump to 1.13 i noticed my GPRS icon had a 'disconnect' button, now on 1.13BS it doesnt, so i find it hard to disconnect my GPRS connection, i dont like having it on all the time, only as and when.
Have i not installed something from the extended rom to fix this?
Also, how can i change the MMS/SMS/Email and Ringtones. I want to use mp3 tones for all, on the SPV C500 it was a reg hack that fixed this, is this the same?
Ive got a wav file as my ring tone at the minute, but its mahoosive!
Is there a loudspeak option on the phone? and is there a way to add voice dialing/typing?
Hi vini,
You're now experiencing plain WM2003 :-(
So go for the reg.hack for mp3 ringtone selection or put them manually in the rings folder.
GPRS disconnect is the same or you get the cab from the ori. ext-rom to get the disconnect button in the bubble or you use spb pocket tips&trucs to add it or push the red disconnect button for a few seconds.
So everything you mentioned isn't plain WM2003, but very handy indeed. Which means the providers are sometimes useful.
Cheers, M
red disconnect button? i dont get that
another bug/problem ive found, is im only getting 70 characters on Certain sms messages, i think. when i Reply this happens.
The red button to disconnect a phone call.
Seems like you are using unicode in your sms replies these double byte characters are using your precious sms space. You can turn them off, but don't rember how. It has been discussed many times before, so a search on unicode should help you.
Cheers, M
How to???
Hey ppl,
I downloaded the zip file from ftp site\magician\big storage ROMS\WWE 1.13.zip
Extracted it and found bs113.nbf file.. now how do i use it to upgrade my Poket PC? Ive gt no much knowledge in this bigstorage thngy and so can u help me.. Tanx a lottt in advance...
hey Carty, there is a tutorial which explains all (ive attached it)
that is all i followed and this thread.
ive worked out that my SMS allowance (usually 160 chars) is cut to 70 if i use a ' or any form of strange punctuation.
i was writing 'whats the weather like' and it automatically changed it to 'what's the weather like' i noticed id been cut to 70 chars, but deleted the
' in "what's" and i got my 160 char limit back, freaky! but how can we fix it? or is it just me?
BS without MMC reader!
hey vini,
I faced the same prob as u rite nw, tat msg ting.. u gotta change some settings in messages.. il telya my settings.. go to messaging,accounts and ul see a setting for text messaging.. click on tat and itl take u to a place wer yr opperator# will b ritn.. belo tat thers an option "use unicode wen necessacy" check tat on...
Now to mine, i read ampda' ting and found tat i need an mmc reader.. bt i don have it and heard somewer someone who told tat u cld do it wit usb itself if u already have a patched file... can yu help me pls...
For an update to rom 1.13BS go to the thread about upgrading to 1.13 and radio 1.13 in the magician upgrading etc. section. Find the post from hlt. He wrote a complete how to & posted the tools. A few posts later I added some minor comments on the how to. You will patch a shipped rom & upgrade via usb. No need for SD- or MMC-readers.
Regards, M
H oltp,
I chkd yr posted reply and uve mentioned abt getdevicedata.exe to b copied to device... wer frm i get tat application (getdevicedata.exe)?
and how to decode tat nk.nbf file?? help me pls.. as i sed, im new!
Dear Carty,
Hlt posted the tool nbfdec in that thread, hexedit can be found on the ftp xda:[email protected] in one of the magician sub-directory. The getdevicedata file is part of the shipped rom which you can download from the ftp at the magician\shipped roms subdir.
Does this help you?
Regards, M
Hi oltp,
tanx for yr qwik reply but the thing getdevicedata.exe is not working.. i extracted it from Tmobile' 1.13 rom and transfered it to my Poket pC and clicked on it.. no sign of it getting executed or error msg.. i chkd windows directory and text file not created.. wot to do buddy??
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Carty said:
hey vini,
I faced the same prob as u rite nw, tat msg ting.. u gotta change some settings in messages.. il telya my settings.. go to messaging,accounts and ul see a setting for text messaging.. click on tat and itl take u to a place wer yr opperator# will b ritn.. belo tat thers an option "use unicode wen necessacy" check tat on...
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ive unticked "use Unicode when necessary" and it works fine.
Carty said:
Hi oltp,
tanx for yr qwik reply but the thing getdevicedata.exe is not working.. i extracted it from Tmobile' 1.13 rom and transfered it to my Poket pC and clicked on it.. no sign of it getting executed or error msg.. i chkd windows directory and text file not created.. wot to do buddy??
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What about skipping it & using the maupgradeut_noid? My guess is that that stepnis meant to avoid the country id error. So is maupgradeut_noid. So download it fRom the ftp, put it in your dir. with the other extracted files from the shipped rom, execute it twice & you must be there.
Regards, M
FIne,
ive got
1.enterbl.exe
2.getdevicedata.exe
3.Rom upgradeUT.exe
4.ms_.nbf
5.nk.nbf
6.radio_.nbf
7.ruu.conf
8.ruu.dll
9.UI.dll
from the original shipped T-mobile' ROM
Got MaUpgrade.exe from ftp
got bs113.nb1 from big storage folder under ftp...
i have 'em all in one folder... i also added a line 'checkid type..' in ruu.conf to avoid country id error.. so now i directly run MaUpgrade file in bootloader mode or to delete any file from above.. i mean, the Bigstorage unpatched file from shipped ROM.. which file is it? and do i have to decode or do somethin to tat bs113.nb1 file? cz the original rom had files in nbf format..
Oltp, tanx for yr reply and help me wit tis nw.. im annoying you too much i gezz
Hold on, slow down a bit for this old man.
You're mixing things up. The bs113.nb1 is a complete romimage & cannot be used in a shipped rom upgrade.
To use that file you need a different procedure:
- dump your current rom on a sd-card
- get it on your pc
- copy the first 416 bytes from your dump into (overwrite) the bs113.nb1
- write the modified bs113.nb1 on your sd-card
- put in your magician
- press power
- wait till it finishes
- reset
- done
For the shipped rom you need to
- decode the nk.nbf to nb1 format with nbfdec
- open nk.nb1 in hexeditor
- search twice for the mentioned bit pattern & replace it with the usual BS pattern
- encode the modified nk.nb1 to nk.nbf again
- connect your magician with usb to pc (no need for bootloader mode)
- run maupgradeut_noid (this will check your device & puts it into bootloader with the enterbl file)
- follow instructions on pc screen
- keep an eye on your very dark magician screen
- wait till it finishes
- reset
- done
Cheers, M
Man i made it!!
Finally i made it.. All my thanx to whoever helped me..specially to oltp.. Im sorry oltp if ive annoyed u but i ws confused & im new too.. anyway, wot i did ws, patched the BS ting in the shipped ROM' nk.nbf file after decoding it.. I don understand 1 ting.. this is the easiest method of all BIgStorage' methods.. it doesnt require a mmc reader too.. Then y dn they jus place the patched nbf file in the original shipped rom and place it in BigStorage folder.. Cz every BS folder in ftp i see, there are some oter files wich i won understand.. Anyway tanx to oltp for helping me wit his replies sooon.. Finally I got BiggggG STorage
I belief herman3101 uploaded a modified nk.nbf, don't know the exact location. I just uploaded my rom to help someone here at the forum.
So everybody can choose his/her favorite method.
& I just like to patch myself, if something goes wrong I know who to blame.
Have fun with your new rom.
Cheers, M
Hi
I know there are lots of people asking how to save space and mostly they get told to use 'search' and check the stickys.
I'm a keen gadget lover but have no technical background. I have a 64mb Tmobile MDA (with the horrible branding) and the following setup:
R 1.00.10
G 1337.36
D 1.01.00 WWE
I've heard/seen references to big storage etc but I don't really understand it.
Can someone either give me:
- a really simple way to update my rom etc, or
- suggest another way to delete stuff that I won't need (don't want to delete stuff only to find half the programs no longer work)
- explain the easiest way to get rid of all the Tmobile stuff
Many thanks in advance
To prevent the Branding stuff from loadibg you must hard-reset your magician (backup first!!) and after the initialization (calibration etc) you must soft-reset just before the customization starts. You got about 3 to 5 seconds to press the softreset, so when your screen reads 'tap screen to start using ....' you put the stylus in soft-reset hole & then tap the screen. As soon as the default blue WM background appears you press the stylus to soft-reset.
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
To gain more storage you can move camera & album from \windows to storage folder. Remember to change shortcuts & registry as well. This saves ariund 1MB. More is possible: I've got < 8MB ram memory allocated to installed stuff with almost all ext-rom cabs installed. Yes I moved a lot.
To gain BIGstorage you can follow instructions below, but first you should get more familiar with the magician I guess. You can save your ext-rom cabs though & update to rom 1.13
url in instructions. To upgrade you just connect the magician to usb & start the downloaded shipped-rom & follow the instructions. Make a backup first & write down your gprs settings, caus you'll have dutch ext-rom cabs after the update. They're in English but contain dutch TMO settings.
Instruction for BS:
- Get nbfdec.exe from the thread 'Upg to 1.13 WWE ROM (with 1.13 Radio) in 10 easy steps!' @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&start=0&sid=75c5e40168a22052fb7c5554bddd68c2
- get maupgradeut_noid.exe from the ftp
- Download the shipped rom from:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
- Download the Hexeditor from:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html
1. Unzip NL_11300_131_11200.exe (or any other shipped rom)
2. Put NBFDEC in the same directory as the unzipped shipped rom files
3. Copy the getdevicedata.exe to your Magician and execute to write DeviceData.txt
to \Windows and view with notepad
5. Decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1:
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
6. Hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt
(probably only if using a rom from other provider)
7. Replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor:
locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 in the nk.nb1
(use binary search for this!!)
7. Encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
8. run maupgradeut_noid.exe to upgrade CE image
Also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
Regards, M
Many thanks OLTP for your reply....perhaps it's me but I still find that quite technical....when I have to rename stuff etc I'm not sure where it is to do it.
The tmobile branding piece is clear and I'll have a stab at that tonight though.
Perhaps I'm just destined to struggle with memory or buy a 128mb device.
Appreciate you taking the time though - anyone else want to have a pop at help a keen but useless gadget lover !
BS is unfortunately quite technical & this is the easiest way.
I suggest to remove the branding, that will save some storage. get more accustomed to your magician by exploring it without changing.
I can write you some steps for moving files to gain more ram.
maybe in the future you can think about BS again.
Cheers, M
pna: oltp's guide is about the best you'll ever get!
Basically, to debrand, do what he says in the first paragraph. This will remove all the additional TMobile gunk being installed. So, you need to hard reset (which will restore your system to "factory condition", and wipe everything), and then soft reset at the right time. Then you have a nice, fresh clean system. You can then read the board to see what files you might have skipped by achieving this, but frankly, you won't have missed much.
You can get your tmobile settings (for gprs etc) from here:
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sp3_setup.ihtml
FYI, before doing anything, get hold of a copy of GSFinder+ or a similar explorer. You will need it do any kind of installing/renaming etc.
Before venturing into the hardrest/soft reset business, consider if you want to do the big storage hack. Again, oltp's guide is perfect, but first the theory: the Extended Rom is like a small disk stuck inside your phone, carrying "backups" of the tmobile configuration stuff. If you do Bigstorage, it'll free that space for your use, giving you an extra 20mb or so to use for free. You can install stuff in there, and use it as a small, but bigger, disk to store stuff on. There's no reason not to do it, other than it's difficulty:
Difficulty? Yes, it takes some time, but instructions are provided, and clarified by oltp, so just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.
It does require some knowledge, or confidence to learn.
So ideally, you want to:
1. Backup any files you want to keep.
2. Do Bigstorage.
3. Skip extended rom rubbish.
However, before you worry about bigstorage or anything technical, I suggest you just do this: clean up your system as it is now, and then just in future remember to install every program you want directly to your SD Card. If you do that, your system will generally have more than enough memory to run well. You can skip all the bigstorage and extended rom business. It's only necessary for those on a particularly tight memory budget. This should be fine for your needs I think.
FYI: to install onto your SD card, always choose NOT to use "main memory" when installing from your PC, or on the PDA, download and use a great program called cabinstl. That will allow you to install to your SD card.
V
oltp said:
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
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oltp, do you mean I cant rename, move, or delete any of the files in extended rom? So its safe even if they show?
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
Sure,
You can use bal666's tool to convert the ext-rom part of a romdump to a diskimage which you can mount under Windows XP, with appropriate software ofcourse.
Then you can do whatever you want with your ext-rom. Requires flashing of your magician & a hard-reset.
For starters I recommend to skip executing of the ext-rom by applying a soft-reset just before the custmization starts after a hard-reset. This way you won't cripple your device.
M
Many thanks OLTP & vjay555,
The branding thing worked a dream and saved me 6mb.
Now want to do big storage. Have got all the downloads ready but just need a bit more help on the 1-8 settings.
I'm really sorry that I need such basic help - haven't really got a clue what I'm doing but prepared to give it a go - please help.
1. No problem with this...even I can do this.
2. Where is this...I assume I move them to the Magician using explore (through activesynch) - am I right...if so, is there an obvious place that the unzipped shipped rom files will be.
3. Can't find a copy of getdevicedata.exe, Where do i find it, and then how do I execute to write DeviceData.txt
5. Afraid I don't know how to do this
6. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
7. How do I do this
8. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
Also, a little confused in the section after no 8 - what do I do here?
Hope you haven't lost patience with me. Hope to hear back soon.
Cheers
Paul,
I recently updated the wiki (top right link on each forum page & go to the howto part of the magician section) with the BIG Storage from shipped-rom method. This contains some more info than this thread. Pls read it & mail me the remaining questions, you've got my email-address. I'll add some extra help then.
Cheers, M
Trying to download latest UK rom on WIKI site but the link to this ROM is not working: OS 1.12.00 / ExtROM 1.12.131 / Radio 1.12
Any ideas?
Ta
Yep a broken link, pls use this to go to the shipped rom section from the ftp: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/
Maybe I take the time tomorrow to check some of the links
btw latest uk-rom should be 1.13WWE from TMO.
nm8 said:
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
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you may want to check this out at htt*://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=395&PN=1. it is based on bal666 info. go check it out.
That's about romcooking and can be found herevas well. It's no BS hack.
Yes, it's no BS. But just a little info for nm8 to do ext rom customizations from his last reply.
Hi,
I have been on this site for about a week now. I was drawn here by the desire to take my Imate JamIn up to WM6.
So I pulled from the web the file:
RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID_QTEK and hurled it onto my PDA
It went from Imate to QTEK but still worked pretty well. So I then went and loaded Upgrade Happy from a site in Roumania.
This loaded but was distinctly unimpressive and unstable so I managed to downgrade to the WM5 file above again.
Then I tried Smart1's v2 WM6 file and this went on OK. However, I have experienced a few issues with the battery and other things like Timewizard, etc.
So I have gone back to the NVID_QTEK WM5 file again.
BUT I would really like to put back on my Imate ROM which I have stored away. Sadly, whenever I try and load the ROM it states that the version is lower and I can only do an UPGRADE ( I get a 286 error).
I have searched here and Google and think that I can Un CID my phone (not actually sure what this does mind). I have read posts suggesting that once done I can load any version of any Prophet ROM on my PDA.
I went off and ended up on PDAMobiz and pulled down a file called:
PDAMobiz.com_ProphetAKU2_unlockCID.rar
But this site is incredibly slow and the file is corrupt when I finally get it down.
Can anyone explain to me whether it is possible to get to reload my earlier ROM version Imate ROM? If it is can anyone explain what I need to do and perhaps put up a link to an area where I can pull the tools down.
This website has a great reputation for helping each other out and I am sure that my ignorance will be forgiven,
Kind Regards,
Sam.
Hi
This is because you have upgraded your ipl/spl and these can't be downloaded.
But don't worry it's not a problem
if you have the original rom you should have a .nbf file?
You can use typho5.exe -x xxx.nbf (whatever it is called) this will extract the individual elements (ipl/spl/os/extrom/radio/splash screens) as .nb files.
Then use nb2nbf to build a new nbf file without spl/ipl parts. copy this file back to your backup folder (rename the original one first) and install again
Good Luck
Thanks - I have just a couple more dumb questions...
FlykThewiz,
Many thanks for your help.
I have the file:JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_shi.exe
Do you know how I get the .NBF out of it?
Also,
You couldn't point me to the tools you mention could you?
If I do what you said then do I get back my own Imate Splash screen too?
Do you know if I will suffer any problems with things being different versions?
Once again many thanks I will let you know how I get on.
Kind Regards,
Sam.
You can use winrar (free download - search google if you don't have it) to extract the files in your exe.
One of the file will be the nbf.
I will sort out the instructions for you but I have to go out for a couple of hours at the moment.
T H A N K Y O U
flykthewiz,
You are simply The MAN
Many, Many thanks,
Sam.
I don't know about being the man - i had the same problem myself.
Attached is a zip file with the two tools you need.
I suggest you create a folder called c:\rom and copy the contents of your exe file and these to programs into it.
goto a dos cmd window and cd \rom
type "typho5 -x nk.nbf" (no quotes)
you will then have a number of *.nb files in c:\rom
rename nk.nbf to nk.org
send me the list of nb files you have.
ZIPPED with winzip 12
Hi flykthewiz
is 92000000-Splash.nb is the imate pic when softreset
cause am using AKU3.3.13.ASERG after I unlocked my Jamin with RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID .... and want to go back only for the Imate screen instead of QTEK, and can I flash with it only
thanks
Splash Screens
There are two splash screens - the one you mention is the first (often blank)
The second is 9d000000-xxx.nb this is the one that is displayed most of the time when the phone is booting. To enter this in nb2nbf you need to manually enter "HTC Logo" as the image name.
secoseco said:
Hi flykthewiz
is 92000000-Splash.nb is the imate pic when softreset
cause am using AKU3.3.13.ASERG after I unlocked my Jamin with RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID .... and want to go back only for the Imate screen instead of QTEK, and can I flash with it only
thanks
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FlykTheWiz,
Thanks for the tools.
The files I have are as follows:
30/03/2007 13:50 59,768,832 80040000-OS_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_1.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_2.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 196,608 92000000-Splash.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 2,621,440 96000000-GSM_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 10,485,760 9b000000-Extension.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 65,536 9d000000-HTC.nb
28/03/2006 15:51 74,713,088 nk.nbf
16/09/2005 12:20 53,248 nb2nbf.exe
13/03/2006 19:09 784,972 typho5.exe
I have loaded up the nb2nbf file but have no idea what to do with it - The only option appears to be for a Tornado...
Thanks,
Sam.
Ok
fill in nb2nbf like the image in the attached zip file.
Important notes:
1. use the ... browse buttons to select your files and the length field will be filled in for you (the image shows mostly zeros)
2. the image name for the extended rom is Extension Rom (not Extended) and you have to type it manually - its not in the drop dow list.
3. the start address for OS.nb is 80040000 (not 82040000 which the program defaults to)
4. you need to manually type HTC Logo in image type - its not in the list.
Do not add the ipl and spl files! (these are the ones that are causing your problems)
When its all filled in click on Translate and when that is finished exit the program.
If you have copied all of the contents of your extracted exe to c:\ROM you should have a program called ROMUpdateUtility.
Connect your pda to usb and run this program and follow the instructions (you've done this before )
After its finished your phone will hard reset and you should have your original ROM.
It doesnt matter that ipl and spl are different versions
Good Luck
flykthewiz said:
There are two splash screens - the one you mention is the first (often blank)
The second is 9d000000-xxx.nb this is the one that is displayed most of the time when the phone is booting. To enter this in nb2nbf you need to manually enter "HTC Logo" as the image name.
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thanks for replay
in Imate rom, splash screens and HTC Logo are differ from NVID QTEK rom
Can I flash only those 2 files to get back the Imate screen
thanks
Yes you can
secoseco said:
thanks for replay
in Imate rom, splash screens and HTC Logo are differ from NVID QTEK rom
Can I flash only those 2 files to get back the Imate screen
thanks
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Nearly there
FlykTheWiz,
Many thanks for the instructions. I have done what you suggested with NB2NKF
However, When I try to run my RUU utility I get error code 238 Cannot Read the file.
I extracted all files into a single directory and replaced the default .NBF with my new one. Then ran the RUU tool.
Am I being a numpty?
Many thanks,
Sam.
hmmm
Try the appropriate RUU from the attached
If your ipl ends in .000 use G3 version
if ends in .0001 use G4 version
T H A N K Y O U
I would just like to thank you for your kindness and patience. I have now got the HTC device reblown to the original condition that I started from (with the exception of the IPL/SPL).
Using the G4 utility worked for me.
On the way I have learned a great deal and appreciate your assistance.
Thank you very much,
Sam.
No problem at all
flyk (definitely) thewiz !!!
Flykthewiz... Many thanks for your input to this thread... your tutorial has helped me (and many of us) more than almost ANY other on this site!!! You are obviously very knowledgeable in this "art"!!!!
Since we have not seen much input from Jesterz or Smart1 lately (I can understand that it is time-consuming...!) , can I suggest that maybe you could take up the reigns and offer to this community your first Prophet ROM build??? (Any +AKU base will be a help??)
Please do consider doing this - I *know* you can do this and although I appreciate it can take a lot of your personal time and effort to achieve.. I am sure that your contribution will be appreciated and valued by us all, if u were to attempt such a project!!?
If not, we do understand... but please stay around here and continue to help us all with your flykth-wiz-dom!!!
Moz.
Thanks for your vote of confidence, but I have to say - you must be joking
I only started looking at modifying ROM's 2 days ago and it is a minefield. I have absolutely every respect for Jesterz, Smart1, Nghianha, and all of the guys over at PDAMobiz. I think it will be a long while before I am anything like of their calibre!
Mozzerr said:
Flykthewiz... Many thanks for your input to this thread... your tutorial has helped me (and many of us) more than almost ANY other on this site!!! You are obviously very knowledgeable in this "art"!!!!
Since we have not seen much input from Jesterz or Smart1 lately (I can understand that it is time-consuming...!) , can I suggest that maybe you could take up the reigns and offer to this community your first Prophet ROM build??? (Any +AKU base will be a help??)
Please do consider doing this - I *know* you can do this and although I appreciate it can take a lot of your personal time and effort to achieve.. I am sure that your contribution will be appreciated and valued by us all, if u were to attempt such a project!!?
If not, we do understand... but please stay around here and continue to help us all with your flykth-wiz-dom!!!
Moz.
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help for step by step help for change boot logo imate jamin
Hi all:
1. how to extract tools.zip on pc
2. my pda (i-mate jamin) and update smart1-new v2 . don't like change i-mate boot logo to Qtek how to change boot logo to original i-mate jamin?
thanks for step by step help.
"...a long while..."??? I don't think so!!! Still, your openess and willingness to share what you have learned in such a short while is refreshing to see on this forum!! I still say T H A N K Y O U ! !
flykthewiz said:
Thanks for your vote of confidence, but I have to say - you must be joking
I only started looking at modifying ROM's 2 days ago and it is a minefield. I have absolutely every respect for Jesterz, Smart1, Nghianha, and all of the guys over at PDAMobiz. I think it will be a long while before I am anything like of their calibre!
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You never told anybody how to do it and then you complain of constant requests
I don't want to cook Wm6 I just want to change some files in my current WM5 Rom!
Could you please tell me how can I do it?
It does not need to be told how to do it, but told how to search ! A lot of people here know how to do it, just GOOGLE it !
sorry, I've already searched... Maybe I'm searching badly!
Could you please help me?
Basically you need to extract the ROM installer, you will find an nbf file in it, then get an NBF file converter, to convert it into some sort of editable format, then you start cooking the ROM, placing whatever you want, and in the end, convert it back into NBF
Hello,
You might find something useful here:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255064
It would be more helpful if people genuinely try to help others instead of directing them to Google.
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hey
if you can wait a day or two, i will write up a nice simple guide for everyone and have it stickied
i will also provide links to the tools required. it really isnt as difficult as some people thing! it just LOOKS difficult!
and we are a community here, so lets just help rather than-use the fricking search!lol. we were all n00bs once!
duke_stix said:
hey
if you can wait a day or two, i will write up a nice simple guide for everyone and have it stickied
i will also provide links to the tools required. it really isnt as difficult as some people thing! it just LOOKS difficult!
and we are a community here, so lets just help rather than-use the fricking search!lol. we were all n00bs once!
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if all were like you ...
I know it isn't but in so much amount of infos it's not easy to find ones that apply to your device or even thing you wanna do!
Need help too
Yea, Please..my probs are the reconverting my data into a .nb->nbf file...after flashing My phone hangs in First Bootscreen...please help!Only Reflashing helps...i really want to cook a rom by myself.
Ive used THIS kitchen...but it is for Wizard-devices only....but i think,it can be used for Tornado,too.
as far as we tried we could not make a proper dump of the wm5 tornado...
but i did manage to build a rom kitchen with wm6 for the tornado...this was a whileago and the base rom is the same as the current available...if ther is enougth request i may be inclined to update the RK and release it.
to get you started here is some pointers.... you can use the same tools from the wizard, imgfs tools.
When I use nb2nbf_wizard.exe, is this created nk.nbf flashable for my Tornado (german XDA Phone aka HTC Douton)?
There is an nb2nbf_Tornado File out there,too, but my Phone stuck in first BootScreen.If i use the Wizard-Tools here and use the nb2nbf_Tornado,(by retyping the Start Adress from 8004000(for Wizard) to 8204000 (for Tornado)) it works well fine, Flashing works well,too,but stuck in first Screen every time.Ive only delete the Solitaire-Folder,but it dont work for me..maybe you have more luck!Or...faria may Post a RomKitchen exclusive for our lovely Tornado..
Have you removed the first two bytes of the initflashes.dat? When not, it can't be booting correctly! That was my mistake when I started to cook my own ROM's for my HTC Prophet (XDA Neo)!
What?
really?I may think,it is only needed after a Registryedit....thank you.!
edit:did not work...
arpy said:
There is an nb2nbf_Tornado File out there,too, but my Phone stuck in first BootScreen.If i use the Wizard-Tools here and use the nb2nbf_Tornado,(by retyping the Start Adress from 8004000(for Wizard) to 8204000 (for Tornado)) it works well fine, Flashing works well,too,but stuck in first Screen every time.Ive only delete the Solitaire-Folder,but it dont work for me..maybe you have more luck!Or...faria may Post a RomKitchen exclusive for our lovely Tornado..
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i have the same problem like you.
I've made a nk.nbf from the *.nb files with nb2nbf_tornado.exe.
I've also extracted *.nb (OS, IPL, SPL, etc) from nk.nbf from windows mobile 6 alpha and then 'translated' those nb files with nb2nbf_tornado.exe. Same result: succesfull flash, stuck in first screen every time..
so not the "initflashes.dat" file is guilty..
...and nobody out there may help us?
arpy, it seems that if I include only OS without IPL & SPL in nb2nbf, all are OK..
But still with my modified OS does not get over the first splash screen.. maybe i've done smth wrong. In dump folder, I've added some files (some overwritten), i've removed some files, modified initflashfiles.dat (last line blank, + removed the two first bytes with winex), modified the hv files (saved in unicode standard, first line REGEDIT4, last line blank.. complied: no errors). replaced carrier_splash and shutdown
that's all what I've modified ...
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arpy, try to translate only the OS module with nb2nbf_tornado. and tell me the result. also, tell me what changes you've made
edit2: found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298327 . improved tools
edit3: i've dumped my modified OS module with tadzio's ImgfsTools and discovered that initflashfiles.dat had the two bytes that i've removed with win hex.. what the?!
i've removed again, and run the whole build rom process again , but this time with tadzio's ImgfsTools.
Same result.. (stuck in first screen)
Maybe i've modified something wrong.
edit4: i've repeated the whole process and OS module flash and work ok . I haven't tried yet with all modules, only OS. I think I've made some mistakes when trying to replace drivers.
@DSF
Can you post a Step-By-Step Solution?I want to figure out my prob...which tools do you use?And how?May you Post your ROM?
well, i will post summary. i hope to release a "tornado romcook kitchen" and more detailed steps these days.
here is my OS module:
http://rapidshare.com/files/45915194/RUU.rar.html
right now i'm trying to figure out how to make the sd driver from iphone/other roms to work on my custom rom. every time i try other sd driver, i cannot view the card.
i'm using the tadzio's ImgfsTools (see link in my previous post).
steps:
- download typho5.exe, ImgfsTools, nb2nbf_tornado (you can get them by searching via gogole)
- copy all those files in the same folder, eg: ROMDEV
- copy nk.nbf in ROMDEV
Commands:
1) typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
2) imgfsfromnb.exe 82040000-OS.nb imgfs_raw_data.bin
3) imgfstodump.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin
Now the OS files are dumped in dump folder. Do the changes (delete, copy, modify, etc). When editing registry and initflashfiles.dat file, perform the important steps describeb at http://www.molski.biz/romcooking.html (turn off word wrap and use UNICODE in notepad, etc). If you're dune with those things do next:
4) imgfsfromdump imgfs_raw_data.bin imgfs_new.bin
5) imgfstonb imgfs_new.bin 82040000-OS.nb 82040000-OS_final.nb
if no error occured in the whole process, run 6) nb2nb_tornado.
There, chose the nb files, OS will be 82040000-OS_final.nb and not 82040000-OS.nb. Don't forget to use the correct image name. (eg: for 82040000-OS_final.nb chose OS)
The language, oem, operator version, cid can be left blank.
When you're done, press translate.
Copy the generated nk.nbf file in the rom update folder (RUU), execute ROMUpdateUtility.exe and follow the normal flash steps..
That's all.
Thanks to all those ppl that made this possible
PS: if you flash only the OS module (without IPL & SPL), even if the update proces crashes, you will not 'brick' your phone . Mine happen to crash on 2%.. i transpired instantly
kartam said:
You never told anybody how to do it and then you complain of constant requests
I don't want to cook Wm6 I just want to change some files in my current WM5 Rom!
Could you please tell me how can I do it?
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Actually, I have some files about how to cook a rom, but they all Chinese, and may be useless for you.
DSF: the way you describe works with the tornado. thx. ive testest
an usefull app to edit initflashfiles.dat and the registry files is "notepad2".