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Hey guys... I have to finally say goodbye. After a year of hanging around the forum, it is time for me to move on. My wife's Razr was almost trashed and I decided to sign a new contract with T-Mobile to get both of us new phones. I got a T-Mobile Shadow - yes, I'm addicted to Windows Mobile!
So for now my trusty old SDA will live life as a replacement phone. It's living with Nitro's great new ROM. Good luck to him, and to all the other users who are members of this forum.
People come and people go. Already there are a few new people who are proving themselves to be great additions to this group.
Remember, whatever you do, just don't brick your phone. That's the worst way of leaving this forum!
I will come around once in a while to snoop on things. Until then, farewell.
'til next time mate!
i hate when people go
It has been a pleasure having you bipinsen. Don't be a stranger.
Why, again, do you have to leave? You can still hang around and give and gain knowledge.
For the first time in almost ten years I'm driving a car that's not a Neon, and yet I still hang out on my Neon forum.
Stick around, homey - it's still Windows Mobile! And isn't the Shadow made by HTC, too?
Or are you just leaving the Tornado board because you're too good for us now...
Always people come and go. I know i will not go anywhere cause I have one SDA and one new Imate SP5, they both work great. Great job
I wish you a lot of fun with your new device
So I know alot of people have started to think about their next phone after their cappys. I am going to guess most people are thinking about the same candidates I am. I"m lookin at the HTC Inspire, Moto Atrix, and Samsung Infuse.
The Atrix really seems to be the king of them in most specs, i just wish it had a bigger screen than 4". Plus I am still a lil confused about the whole dock thing with it and something costing 500 bucks and ATT "making" me pay for tethering also. I def dont want any of that. I dont mind paying a lil extra for 4G, thats if I actually get 4G speeds. I like the Infuse the best out of the 3 with the screen size and looks, but is it going to be the same regurgitated Samsung problems that most of us are having with our Cappys? I can handle a lil lag, but the poor GPS performance is a deal breaker.
So I am wondering what others are going to go to and why? Chime on in.
I think I'm going to be jumping ship and leaving AT&T entirely if I can talk my wife into it. I'm mostly waiting on MWC to end so I can see what other new phones will be released and on what carrier.
well, you know how the waiting game is with phones, if you wait, you'll be waiting forever. there is always something coming down the pipe.
I'm stuck with AT&T on two of my lines until mid 2012 anyway, so with the Death Star I have to stay. I'm leaning towards the Atrix, but am waiting for MWC as well. Even if the phone does have a locked boot loader, XDA will take care of that with a quickness... ;-)
despite some of its flaws i still can't believe how eager some people are to defect from the best overall phone out there especially when paired with the right rom.
Why did you have to start a new thread on this? There is one titled latest from att on the first page. Did you not see not one? please look around or search before starting a new thread. There are many threads already open on this topic.
I'm stuck with AT&T unless I want to carry multiple phones. They are the only ones that work in Europe. I looked at the all band Nokia but they are simply too expensive.
I want to stick with an Android phone for the simple reason that the community will improve on the standard issue crap. Will the boot loader on the Atrix be locked so as to prevent flashing custom stuff?
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Why did you have to start a new thread on this? There is one titled latest from att on the first page. Did you not see not one? please look around or search before starting a new thread. There are many threads already open on this topic.
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none that had a survey attached to it to see a general consensus. now quit being a cry baby. i mean seriously, some of you ppl in here whine more than a lil school girl. if you dont like the thread, dont vote, shut up and move on.
I am trying to talk the wife into dumping the iPhone 3GS for the HTC Inspire 4G. She really like Google navigation and I think the $99 price may be a deal maker.
I am still in the 90 window on my refurbed Captivate, if I like the Inspire, I may start whining to see if I can get it as a replacement.
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I am trying to talk the wife into dumping the iPhone 3GS for the HTC Inspire 4G. She really like Google navigation and I think the $99 price may be a deal maker.
I am still in the 90 window on my refurbed Captivate, if I like the Inspire, I may start whining to see if I can get it as a replacement.
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yeah, that price is pretty shocking. nice attention getter
boborone said:
Why did you have to start a new thread on this? There is one titled latest from att on the first page. Did you not see not one? please look around or search before starting a new thread. There are many threads already open on this topic.
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Boborone for mod?!?
Thread closed, there are other threads with the same topic.
A good 1 1/2-2 years or so ago, when I was using my TP2 regularly, Mighty made the best rom (personal opinion, not the focus of this post), and we where stuck with the only HSPL out.
Issues this phone was plagued with, but along the way I heard of Mr.X making his own, back then, I was offered by someone the HSPL for my own testing, but I was content to not poison the pool and let Mr.X finish it right...
Now I am back and asking if anyone has this mystical and (from all accounts of those who boast they have it) magical HSPL they would be kind enough to send me?
I really regret now not taking the person on his offer back then because it seems Mr.X has totally gone "POOF" (in relation to anything on mightyrom.com, and any actual dev, only things I can find from him are mundane replys on ppcg) and essentially from what I have heard and asked elsewhere, its been abandoned... It might have been unfinished (HSPL gets re-written when you carrier flash, im fine with that), but its still a far cry better (OFC from the raving reviews on those privileged enough) then stock or the Oily one...
I have failed in selling or trading my TP2 for an HD2 and have decided to start using it again in leu of my Mogul... saying no to that offer has never stung so much
...let me read this again...with glasses!
Kane3162 said:
A good 1 1/2-2 years or so ago, when I was using my TP2 regularly, Mighty made the best rom (personal opinion, not the focus of this post), and we where stuck with the only HSPL out.
Issues this phone was plagued with, but along the way I heard of Mr.X making his own, back then, I was offered by someone the HSPL for my own testing, but I was content to not poison the pool and let Mr.X finish it right...
Now I am back and asking if anyone has this mystical and (from all accounts of those who boast they have it) magical HSPL they would be kind enough to send me?
I really regret now not taking the person on his offer back then because it seems Mr.X has totally gone "POOF" (in relation to anything on mightyrom.com, and any actual dev, only things I can find from him are mundane replys on ppcg) and essentially from what I have heard and asked elsewhere, its been abandoned... It might have been unfinished (HSPL gets re-written when you carrier flash, im fine with that), but its still a far cry better (OFC from the raving reviews on those privileged enough) then stock or the Oily one...
I have failed in selling or trading my TP2 for an HD2 and have decided to start using it again in leu of my Mogul... saying no to that offer has never stung so much
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if you mean the 0.72 HSPL, I can help with that.. I recall some people wanted a newer version because it would work better with some ROMs. if that's what you mean, you can send me a PM.
Reading the other forums for similar HTC devices, ie incredible s, sensation and evo 3d makes me realise how lucky we are. Those devices and therefore forums may be more popular than this one.
But, I find it quite surprising how many of those people that bother to respond to threads on the other device forums, respond with attitude and negativity. Without intentionally bashing other members, by comparison we seen a more considerate bunch, with less "know it alls". Lets keep it that way.
I think that we are very lucky in that sense and should endeavour to continue the good spirit and sense of community.
on the same note do remember that there is a search button which should always be used prior to posting new threads, also remember that when creating a new thread if the tags added aren't any good then it will never be found by others when searching.
As another member says....peace and lets try to carry on the good attitude
Swyped from HTC Desire S using XDA Premium
DITTO. Other phones might have more ROMs, but no support. The sensation forum has so many posts, that one's question would be buried behind 50 others rather than 1 reply
I think it probably has a lot to do with the desire s not being a stand out when it comes to features, but what it does offer is a high quality handset with very reasonable performance.
But I will agree with the quality of posts in other forums, although this isn't an overly active forum, what it lacks in activeness it gains in quality.
I wouldn't worry about a lack of support as we have some great users (proxuser?) porting ROMs almost non stop, LBC for his fantasic ROM and the Virtuous team for their more in depth multi handset ROM.
I really have to agree here. This part of the forum is awsome. Every member gives a hand when needed, developers are close to users, and there is no extra off topic that drives me crazy.
I congratulate me everyday for picking this phone instead of Nexus S !
That, and the nexus s is basically a phone made of happy meal toy plastic ;-) as I have been saying to the three black sheep that are at school with me who all got one in a matter of a week .
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I wouldn't worry about a lack of support as we have some great users (proxuser?) porting ROMs almost non stop, LBC for his fantasic ROM and the Virtuous team for their more in depth multi handset ROM.
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we mustn't forget superkid who seemed to start our ROM porting gold rush! madmax without whose super recovery EXT4 we would have very sore fingers and damaged volume buttoins along with everyone else Marylandcookie and many more I can't remember right now!!
yeah, superkid, proxuser, LBC, Virtuous Team, and others like ben_pyett (who has provided non-stop support in the genreal section) have made this forum what it is
I have a Desire S. My loyalty was tested when my sister recently gave me the Incredible S for my birthday. It was so tempting and I HEAVILY contemplated migrating to it. I went on youtube watching reviews, read reviews, checked out the development community over at xda. After a long struggle of choosing between the two, I gave away the Inc S. I had a choice, and at the end of the day my loyalty stays strong to the Desire S. I couldn't get away from its robustness and slender design. Aren't you all proud?
My point is what kept me clinging was this community of developers. To put it simply, I didn't wanna leave you guys for the very same reasons stated by ben. The Inc S had more ROMs but most of them were abandoned. I stuck around because I am a fan of LBC and have great hopes and belief for it.
And Ben, you're one of the most active members on this development I've seen so the props go to you mate.
Seriously, this device is so underrated. The Inc S may be bigger and slightly better but I feel most comfortable with the DS. It's so adequate, perfect and extremely well designed. I just love the look and feel of it in my hand. Everything is just the right amount.
In terms of size, 3.7" is perfect for me. 4" is tolerable. But 4.3", Jesus Christ. Who else is not diggin' the new trend for smartphones getting bigger and bigger? Not me. Unless its gonna do my laundry for me, I don't a mini tablet as a phone.
"Who else is not diggin' the new trend for smartphones getting bigger and bigger? Not me. Unless its gonna do my laundry for me, I don't a mini tablet as a phone."
Totally agree mate and yeah Ben deserves major Kudos ,he helped me a lot at the start when I thought I had bricked my Desire S and getting the LBC rom
THANKS
Many Thanks gentlemen, but, stop it you're making me blush.
Honestly I didn't create this thread for praise, just simply to point out the differnce between this and the majority of previously listed forums attitudes, just try reading some of the posts from the other forums for yourselves and you'll see exactly what I mean.
I try to put in as much as I can, as I too am only a beginner, this being my first Android device and I figure sooner or later I'll need some real help. I also benefit from the time and effort that's put in by the various ROM cooks and figure that this is the only way that I can give back.
Not escaping the fact that I'm ultimately a bit of a geek who likes this stuff and is always keen to learn (Even at my ripe old age).
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yeah, superkid, proxuser, LBC, Virtuous Team, and others like ben_pyett (who has provided non-stop support in the genreal section) have made this forum what it is
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+1,i totally agree
this forum & all the members are really great
& the community is also getting really big now,thanks to all the hard work of the devs
& also a BIG thanks to Ben for spending so much time here on the forum, helping all of us
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I try to put in as much as I can
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that is what we are thanking you for
This really is a live and warm forum ....
Thank you very much ben_pyett
Indeed this really is a live and warm forum
I got responses and advises here and there throughout the threads within.
Thank you all and keep it rolling
The phone (I call it a Disaster S now) is one of the worst I have ever experienced. I won't bore you with the details, just that I'm with all those who moan some of its even basic features are unpredictable and unreliable at best.
So I too like this forum. I just come here for therapy now ;-)
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The phone (I call it a Disaster S now) is one of the worst I have ever experienced. I won't bore you with the details, just that I'm with all those who moan some of its even basic features are unpredictable and unreliable at best.
So I too like this forum. I just come here for therapy now ;-)
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LOL
<cut n paste from our other thread>
I believe that either you have a massive dud unit, or it's about time that you took the chance and moved to a custom ROM!
I've has this phone since April and have the exact opposite opinion! I've used LBC Mod since it was first available after I S-OFF'd and rooted my phone, I have tried the other ROMS all of which offer different things, depending on what you're looking for, but, for me coming from a WM Sense background I'm very happy with a "working" close to stock ROM that's stable reliable and ideal for daily use.
I'm also on T-mobile UK. Happy to point you in the right direction - if needed.
Well, I don't want to brick my phone (even reports of frying internals just by removal/reinsertion of battery!) or have warranty problems. Already had motherboard replaced once...
Let me count the ways... Some are these things may be Android platform related, some the Disaster S (hardware), some the stock firmware, or network incompatibility.
- Before the motherboard was replaced, phone would spontaneously reboot seeming triggered by being in poor reception areas when it was going in/out of coverage. It also managed to crash my car radio (and itself) when connected to the car radio via Bluetooth (no other phone has done that)
- Now it randomly fails to tell me about market updates, randomly stops notifying of incoming SMSs properly, some settings in some (standard/built in) apps seem to revert for no reason, it occasionally refuses accept an incoming call when there's indicated coverage. I recently had random emails delayed by over an hour (but I wasn't told by the market there was a GMail update)... yada yada
My all-time record up time before doing a restart to (temporarily) fix one thing or another is about 10 days. Normally it's 5 or less. The worst thing is it's unpredictable. I never know when something's going to break and I'll miss calls, emails or txts, or it will get stuck in a syncing loop draining battery (Exchange contacts sync in the HTC Email app gets turned on somehow, even though I keep deselecting it).
It's just a toy really. Something to show your mates down the pub. Not really fit for purpose. And I'm fed up of looking for workarounds or apps to replace in-built functionality that's supposed to work. Blackberry may not be so pretty, but in my experience they tend to do 'exactly what they say on the tin'. I will prob be back to RIM when I can...
wrong thread.
WibblyW said:
Well, I don't want to brick my phone (even reports of frying internals just by removal/reinsertion of battery!) or have warranty problems. Already had motherboard replaced once...
Let me count the ways... Some are these things may be Android platform related, some the Disaster S (hardware), some the stock firmware, or network incompatibility.
- Before the motherboard was replaced, phone would spontaneously reboot seeming triggered by being in poor reception areas when it was going in/out of coverage. It also managed to crash my car radio (and itself) when connected to the car radio via Bluetooth (no other phone has done that)
- Now it randomly fails to tell me about market updates, randomly stops notifying of incoming SMSs properly, some settings in some (standard/built in) apps seem to revert for no reason, it occasionally refuses accept an incoming call when there's indicated coverage. I recently had random emails delayed by over an hour (but I wasn't told by the market there was a GMail update)... yada yada
My all-time record up time before doing a restart to (temporarily) fix one thing or another is about 10 days. Normally it's 5 or less. The worst thing is it's unpredictable. I never know when something's going to break and I'll miss calls, emails or txts, it will get stuck in a syncing loop draining battery (Exchange contact sync in the HTC Email app gets turned on somehow, even though I keep deselecting it).
It's just a toy really. Something to show your mates down the pub. Not really fit for purpose. And I'm fed up of looking for workarounds or apps to replace in-built functionality that's supposed to work. Blackberry may not be so pretty, but in my experience they tend to do 'exactly what they say on the tin'. I will prob be back to RIM when I can...
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Ouch...I feel your pain, although that sounds like you should get a replacement unit under warranty, or move back to something that you'll be happier with.
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Ouch...I feel your pain, although that sounds like you should get a replacement unit under warranty, or move back to something that you'll be happier with.
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Indeed. Hence my comment about RIM. Ironic that my main reason for going Android was the tighter integration with all things in the Google cloud, but in real world terms I've found RIM do that more reliably. Go figure?!?
I don't actually think it's a hardware problem with the Disaster insofar as the nature of the probs makes me think it's firmware and the way I use it. For example I use Exchange, 802.1x wireless authentication, 4 Google apps accounts, etc. I'm sure others do too but maybe not in the same combination. Whatever. Sadly I frequently seem to find what become confirmed bugs in products that others don't.
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Yeah, sorry. Maybe we need a 'therapy' forum anyway lol. Or a new topic "Unlucky to have the Disaster S, lucky to have this forum"
Not everybody is lucky.
I really think that you've got a bad/defective unit. Everybody around here enjoys this phone and squeezes every bit of performance and eyecandy out of it.
Wow... Did I pick the wrong phone to get this year? Every phone Ive had since I started getting smartphones has had some community around it that has developed roms. It seems like the Q hit the scene and got lost. Everyone is either on the galaxy III or EVO LTE. Or is it just difficult or something to make roms for this phone.
Maybe my desire to have a hardware keyboard is getting outdated... I remember when the epic came out and sold out nearly immediately just because of all the people who wanted a hard keyboard.
I guess Im just disappointed ... thanks for paying attention for a moment,
Wow... that's a nice first post introducing yourself to the community...
Maybe a little research before purchasing would have helped you make a better decision?
This phones dev is in it's infancy, most qwerty phones take off a bit slow, see where this one is in a year.
-Saint
Another thing to consider (and I think others have voiced this previously here or something similar)....at least compared to the Epic, this phone doesn't have the innate motivational outright must-have *need* for ROM development and such, for one simple reason: while not saying the phone is perfect, by and large, the phone just simply works and works well on stock alone. As many reviews attested from launch, its also about as close to AOSP in stock form as you're likely to see from a major US carrier with little built-in bloat.
None of that is to say that ROM development wouldn't make it better or isn't desirable by any stretch, but at the same time, there isn't really a general sense of urgency about it either as compared to examples we've all experienced in the past. Hopefully that's due to Google's influence taking hold over Motorola and continues going forward as well.
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Wow... that's a nice first post introducing yourself to the community...
Maybe a little research before purchasing would have helped you make a better decision?
This phones dev is in it's infancy, most qwerty phones take off a bit slow, see where this one is in a year.
-Saint
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Sorry? I didn't realize I needed to introduce myself everytime I get a new phone. I may not post very often, but I have been here for a while. Sadly, my ability to do anything with making roms is very limited and I havent had the time to learn much more than how to root and put in new roms. At the moment Im leery of rooting this phone due to the whole "Void your warranty" thing that motorola has. It may not matter at all since I have insurance, I dont know.
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Another thing to consider (and I think others have voiced this previously here or something similar)....at least compared to the Epic, this phone doesn't have the innate motivational outright must-have *need* for ROM development and such, for one simple reason: while not saying the phone is perfect, by and large, the phone just simply works and works well on stock alone. As many reviews attested from launch, its also about as close to AOSP in stock form as you're likely to see from a major US carrier with little built-in bloat.
None of that is to say that ROM development wouldn't make it better or isn't desirable by any stretch, but at the same time, there isn't really a general sense of urgency about it either as compared to examples we've all experienced in the past. Hopefully that's due to Google's influence taking hold over Motorola and continues going forward as well.
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Fair enough, I suppose I did note that I wasn't having much issues. I guess I just got used to getting a new phone and seeing new roms up almost the same week. Thats happened on the last four phones ive had. I may just have to bite the bullet and just unlock my bootloader so that I can root and use it again. I really am only missing one item that I want, but as mentioned above, Im a bit leery on the "void your warranty" to unlock the phone. I was a little put off by the "no drm content" warning too, but then again, I dont usually watch movies on my phone... just lots of crunchyroll.
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Sorry? I didn't realize I needed to introduce myself everytime I get a new phone. I may not post very often, but I have been here for a while. Sadly, my ability to do anything with making roms is very limited and I havent had the time to learn much more than how to root and put in new roms. At the moment Im leery of rooting this phone due to the whole "Void your warranty" thing that motorola has. It may not matter at all since I have insurance, I dont know.
Fair enough, I suppose I did note that I wasn't having much issues. I guess I just got used to getting a new phone and seeing new roms up almost the same week. Thats happened on the last four phones ive had. I may just have to bite the bullet and just unlock my bootloader so that I can root and use it again. I really am only missing one item that I want, but as mentioned above, Im a bit leery on the "void your warranty" to unlock the phone. I was a little put off by the "no drm content" warning too, but then again, I dont usually watch movies on my phone... just lots of crunchyroll.
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First post in a new forum acts as your intro imo. We are working towards some roms, just a bit slow going atm.
As for the official unlock, have you looked at this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942243
Can't say I have ever used a warranty having insurance, but may put some of your concerns to rest.
-Saint
Well I look at this one of two ways...
Either you a) help make those ROM's that come out within a week of the device's release or b) wait for others to release them.
I am usually in the B category, as the most I've done previously was help test and write scripts... I'm attempting to be in the A category myself, but it's not working out real well (as you can tell...)
So, unless you can help, I suggest you continue to wait. It will come, just give it time... the hardware is solid, and I don't see any issue getting CM9 singing. CM10/other stuff will have to wait IMHO until official JB - unless some other breakthru is made, which would be great.
Regardless, patience is a virtue. Everyone is doing this in their free time, for no profit. I hope to have something fruitful in the near future, but I have very little help and am still learning the ropes of Android development in general...
I was contemplating getting init.d working for us, but I think I'll wait a bit longer. League of Legends is calling me.
Seriously though, the ROMs will start flowing when people find issues with what we have now. And since what we have now is as close to stock as it gets with manufacturer skins, people are pretty satisfied. I know I sure am, otherwise I'd have cooked something up already.
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