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I haven't found any threads directly comparing the two... I'm tired of the boring today screen and even HTC Home. Which is better on the Wizard Manilla 2D or SPB Shell 2.1? I've tried Manilla and I really like it but it takes up a lot of resources and disables some apps I've come to rely on. (Battery Status, and Smartskey) I wanted to get some opinions before shelling (he he) out the greenbacks for SPB Shell.
What a stupid question!!!
Well don't I feel like an ass... Here you guys just got Manilla working on the Wizard and I'm asking which is better. I've seen threads for Manilla for a while now and never read any of them. I wasn't really interested in Manilla until I was browsing around and saw some of the skins. I thought I'd give it a try. Since I just went in last night and downloaded it and installed it with no problem, I assumed it has been working on Wizard for a while. In my defence I did search for a comparison but found none.
i vote foe manila
Iv tryed both and Manila is wey cooler and in new to wizard, bur SPB Shell its much much usfull so its your choice
i was a big spb mobile shell user when it 2+ first hit......I must admit...I now use Noonski's rom and I enjoy the device much much more...it's somehow made for our device where as mobile shell is universal plus with all the skins and clocks being rapidly designed and made available you can have whatever flavor you like....as with mobile shell....seems lately the designs are all just versions of the same concept...where m2d is fresh and to me faster as it is cooked into the rom...I had about 43 megs left on mine after flashing and right now I'm just trying to streamline and keep about half that while piling on the goodies I usually enjoy in my phone...using a 2g sd card I'm able to run much from there....unless mobile shell upgrades to 3 I'm going to say m2d wins
wyzepro said:
i was a big spb mobile shell user when it 2+ first hit......I must admit...I now use Noonski's rom and I enjoy the device much much more...it's somehow made for our device where as mobile shell is universal plus with all the skins and clocks being rapidly designed and made available you can have whatever flavor you like....as with mobile shell....seems lately the designs are all just versions of the same concept...where m2d is fresh and to me faster as it is cooked into the rom...I had about 43 megs left on mine after flashing and right now I'm just trying to streamline and keep about half that while piling on the goodies I usually enjoy in my phone...using a 2g sd card I'm able to run much from there....unless mobile shell upgrades to 3 I'm going to say m2d wins
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I had forgotten all about this question. Thanks for the answers. I'm back on the kick again and I was wondering if you still feel the same? I have tried M2D as a add on and cooked directly into the ROM. I have still yet to try SPB Mobile Shell. I may just get off the fence and do it. Worse thing could happen is I have to flash back to my HTC Home.
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I haven't found any threads directly comparing the two... I'm tired of the boring today screen and even HTC Home. Which is better on the Wizard Manilla 2D or SPB Shell 2.1? I've tried Manilla and I really like it but it takes up a lot of resources and disables some apps I've come to rely on. (Battery Status, and Smartskey) I wanted to get some opinions before shelling (he he) out the greenbacks for SPB Shell.
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I tested twice solutions, it's my opinion:
M2D:
Positive
- Very excellent look
- Very fast, reponsive
- Switch window animated
- Several weather cities
- Most smart panel
Negative
- Memory leak
- Not stable (plugin reboots unexpectly)
- Memory used (+15Mb storage and +8Mb ram) with all apps needed
- Seems doen't work with S2U2
- Get pad action when using other programs
- Task switch to front automaticaly
- Landscape problems
- cannot show multiple calendar events
- poor weather city
- Must install all HTC programs (music player, pictures, ...)
SPB shell 2.1
Positive
- Less storage and ram memory (- 5Mb ram)
- Compatible S2U2
- Skinable (look of M2D, Xperia X1, WM7)
- Stable
- Cities for weather (Valenciennes is in the list)
Negative
- Less responsive
- M2D skin very slow
- Only one city for the weather
- S2U2 weather does not work
- Cannot have the standard windows taskbar and softkeys
- Today SPB plugin different with M2D today skin window.
- Strange organization of functions...
In conclusion, there is no perfect version, I reloaded Clean Rom and re-used standard WM today screen (battery status, calendar, time, messaging...)
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Negative
- Memory leak
- Not stable (plugin reboots unexpectly)
- Memory used (+15Mb storage and +8Mb ram) with all apps needed
- Must install all HTC programs (music player, pictures, ...)
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1) Yes there is a bit of a memory leak but with tools like QuickMenu and Oxios Hibernate you can reclaim this
2) The issues with this plugin being unstable can be overlooked by the price tag
3) What taskmanager are you using ? M2D Built into wizflo weighs in at 5mb storage and 3.5 mb ram.
4) You dont need all the HTC Programs, use M2DC to disable the tabs you dont use
Great info guys. That is the kind of input I've been looking for. Thanks.
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Great info guys. That is the kind of input I've been looking for. Thanks.
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I have tried SPB Mobile Shell many times i made my custom made configuration and i think it works great, i have never had problems with it. I was wondering that it worked fast enough on HTC Wizard. No problems with cities in weather. It consumes a bit more of RAM and storage and it is necessary to install it in the device memory. Another bad thing about SPB mobile shell is that after installing it on the Wizard it booted very slowly after soft reset it took about 2 minutes until the device boot up. But anyway all these apps M2D, SPB Mobile Shell, TouchFLO etc are looking great but i do not like em. I like standard WM today screen with battery status, messages, today agenda, it is the only way to see all the necessary things on the today screen!
BEtter?
M2D is free..
spb yooou have to buy....
I am a believer of the bet things in life are free...
Hi All,
I am looking for a Home Screen Plugin for my Flint.
I have seen many nice looking ROMs but I do not want to flash the ROM until the device is out of warranty!
I am just looking for a nice home/today screen!
I am also looking for a nice little app like the old battery status!
I had this on my old XDA Orbit, which displayed Battery charge and signal strength in %, and memory card info, as well as CPU temp and also had an overclock facility too! I had my standard Orbit (201Mhz) overclocked and running very nicely and stable at 299Mhz!
Also if there is anything else anyone recommends throwing into the mix then please do so!
Many thanks
Alex
check your email
i have shell 3.i will try an send it to you if it loads on email
I use iFonz2 which is an iphonelike shell and I love it. Luckily you can configure it to be quite unlike iphone in appearance, because I don't want to look like an iphone wannabe. I just want the wonderful functionality. I'ts free and you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482986
I can second SPB Mobile shell 3, I use it on my Flint and it looks great - and is very customisable. Check out the forum on SPB for some useful aditions such as widgets for VGA screens.
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I can second SPB Mobile shell 3, I use it on my Flint and it looks great - and is very customisable. Check out the forum on SPB for some useful aditions such as widgets for VGA screens.
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I did try try SPB Mobile Shell 3 - I wasn't that impressed! It didn't run very well!
It was slow and jerky, not smooth! - Is that how it is or do I need to tweak some setting somewhere to make it run better?
I installed it and it worked fine. No setting changes, no jerking, no delays. I did add the VGA widgets and a few other mods from the SPB forum, but it didn't alter the performance. Perhaps it's the ROM you're using, or other apps you have installed? Although I have do also Wisbar adv3 running and eveything is still OK. My partner has SPB MS3 on her XDA stella and it runs even smoother and quicker than it does on my Flint, but I wouldn't describe mine as slow or jerky. Hope this ramble helps
I've just re-installed it, but its still slow and jerky when rotating between screens!
Anyone have any ideas??
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I've just re-installed it, but its still slow and jerky when rotating between screens!
Anyone have any ideas??
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Screen rotation with Spb MS3 is a known issue. Are you using the latest version- Spb did some work to improve it, but its still slow.
How do you find the screen transitions if you stay in the same orientation? For me they were fast and smooth, though I've stopped using any shell programs now due to their memory usage.
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Screen rotation with Spb MS3 is a known issue. Are you using the latest version- Spb did some work to improve it, but its still slow.
How do you find the screen transitions if you stay in the same orientation? For me they were fast and smooth, though I've stopped using any shell programs now due to their memory usage.
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I believe it was the latest version!
If I'm honest I really didn't like it!
I just migrated from a Tytn2 running Athine OS Manilla Edition (TF2D)
I was really impressed with it! It was quick, smooth and easy to use!
Thats what I am really looking for on my XDA Flint, but I don't want to move away from the standard ROM until the device is out of warranty!
I'd normally say go for broke with a new ROM as there are tools around to restore the SPL and OS to the release version, but as the O2 ROM is pretty similar to cooked ROMs in terms of performance I'd agree with you.
What to you actually want from a Home Screen?
I've now reverted to the standard WinMo home screen with whichever standard plug-ins I want, plus SBP Weather and Chronos alarm. On top of that I'm now using LaunchPad from Panoramic Software which can take over the Start button, or a softkey, and which opens up a full screen icon grid of 'links' to programs, settings or files.
I've reviewed it Here; not a Home screen, but does the job for me
hippy999 said:
I believe it was the latest version!
If I'm honest I really didn't like it!
I just migrated from a Tytn2 running Athine OS Manilla Edition (TF2D)
I was really impressed with it! It was quick, smooth and easy to use!
Thats what I am really looking for on my XDA Flint, but I don't want to move away from the standard ROM until the device is out of warranty!
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Have you considered TF2D on your Flint, not 100% perfect has a few niggles but fairly responsive on my X7510. see here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
gewin said:
What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,
I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.
Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
Complexity
Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.
@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....
I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...
Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.
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I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...
Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.
my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.
spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...
UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.
I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...
i envy you mate
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i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....
At present I'm using trhe newest Energy ROM. Nice work.
I just wondered if there was any ROMs made for easy of visual use.
I'm a but long in the eye now and find using the phone sometimes a strain on my eyes. Age and all that
The Energy ROM is very good but I probably only use about 1/20th of the apps and stuff it loads. Some of the ones it installs I don't even know what they do
I would love to see a ROM made for vision clarity, bigger fonts and more simple but just as useful front screens.
Is there any of the cooks that can advise me on this ?
Thanks
maybe it's not a rom, but a software that you need, like point ui : http://www.wm6software.net/utilities/pointui_1_5.html
not the lame 2.0 which tries to do exactly the same as touchflo, spb etc, but the 1.5, which was very very eye and finger friendly, especially on small screens like the one on touchpro, with big icons, big texts, big lists etc..
so can I get a ROM with none of this HTC touch slide screen and Sense, maybe just a really basic front end.
well I've installed that app, started it and all I get is a blue blob start up screen than nothing happens.
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If you are looking for a simple rom with a good user interface I usually go back to the basic Euro Touch pro rom. I then add a few apps by cab that I need but I also add SPB Mobile shell to it. Retains all the hardware funtionality. I of course turn off TF3D.
SPB can replace your start menu and for bigger fonts go to start\settings\system\screen and enable cleartype and adjust your font size.
When I install this rom I usually install the following apps for basic and a little advanced user functionality:
SPB Mobile shell 3.5 (UI) -Worth the money-
Advanced config 3.3 (changing pagepools and storage locations)
Total Commander 2.5 (self-explanatory)
GPSTest 1.04 (for GPS locking)
SKtools (easy tweaking and cleaning-latest version-I bought it at pocketgear.com)
Bing (directions, searching, Navigating etc.)
Lumos (latest version for backlight control)
Touch Response (latest version-simulated haptive feedback)
Microsoft MyPhone (Secondary sync)
Of course it is all based on taste. Just thought I would stick that out there for ya.
Font size is at its largest, isn't enough
I have to say out of whats on the phone with this energy ROM i think I only use 3 things, and one is now missing in the new ROM.
Phone
Wi-Fi Router
Notes and Tasks.
Google Maps
Facebook
SMS
Freecell
Mostly hooked up to my PC with MyMobile so I can use my big screen. never browse now as the screen is to small.
Just looked at thr Captains basic ROM
2010-02-25_Cap_Special_NO_MANILA_23541
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Font size is at its largest, isn't enough
I have to say out of whats on the phone with this energy ROM i think I only use 3 things, and one is now missing in the new ROM.
Phone
Wi-Fi Router
Notes and Tasks.
Google Maps
Facebook
SMS
Freecell
Mostly hooked up to my PC with MyMobile so I can use my big screen. never browse now as the screen is to small.
Just looked at thr Captains basic ROM
2010-02-25_Cap_Special_NO_MANILA_23541
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Why don't you try my Titanium ROM then ? It's pretty basic, IMO
Trouble I have is reading through all the threads on a ROM, theres just to much old rubbish per thread. I can't filter out whos going on about which version and which ROM is which.
Pruning should be compulsory
They get all wrapped up in tech speak and CHt HTc DDL ROM RAM NND GGH OOH, which doesn't mean a thing to me, or probably a lot of people
Ill try yours out now
What else would I need. I want the Wi-Fi and a few tools but none of the
ArkSwitch ( no idea what it is)
Backup Fav ( never use Fav to start with)
CHT ( turned that off straight away)
Shake and whatever ( why)
World Card ( Useles)
XDA UC ( no idea)
BINg
well you get the picture
There was a good simple task manager in the last ROM but its missing now
And I liked the page with all short-cuts to you most used apps. It looked like the iPhone, very handy to use.
TAEL roms are pretty good
OK I'm lost wheres the Energy Titanium please
SiL3nTKiLL said:
TAEL roms are pretty good
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TAEL, is that a ROM type or the maker of the ROM ?
Thanks
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Yes TAEL is the chef of the rom.
I am currently using captains manilla 2.1 rom. Pretty basic uses the old TF3D type interface. but still has newer features. The only thing missing would be the facebook app. but that can be installed via cab. Seems to be simple enough yet has plenty of tools to get the job done. It has the simple HTC task manager as well.
Does Pointui.Home.1.5a.Wm5. work on it
Ahh I see it says WM5 I wonder if that why it doesn't work on mine.
Trying the Cpts one, systems font seems smaller and I can't seem to find any O2 UK set up cab anywhere
Font size???
It does enlarge through screen settings but I can try and find a magnifier that could swipe across the screen. Of course most of the chefs have knowledge enough to make a "handicapped" rom as microsoft sells it in windows. (Magnifier , speech etc.)
What would be good is an App like the iPhone one that turns the phone into a magnifier. I could deff use that when I was out to read labels and small stuff.
Using
TAELROM_v4.23569_STANDARD_21MAY10
Cpts one I couldn't get the O2 settings for.
i have found something that might help you http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/WinMobile-Magnifier-27412.shtml
Well I gone and brought an iPhone, please don't shout , Only way I can see if it is suitable for me is hands on.
Probably wrong place to ask but anyone recommend a decent iPhone forum ?
Thanks
Still got the HTC so all is not lost
i ve posted the new version of htc sense with the other cabs that we need for running on ours tg01 and other wvga device
install this for first NETcf 3.5
then in order sdkcerts
AUDIO
oem audio
sd hc for to see microsd card
Music tab fix
image album fix
after you can install the sense cab
2.5.2019
for change the language you can use this app
mlm 0.6
but one question now: What about free RAM after install and use this apps ?
BIBUBO BCJ said:
but one question now: What about free RAM after install and use this apps ?
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it depends of your rom...if you have the toshiba rom no brand you has about 50mb
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i ve posted the new version of htc sense with the other cabs that we need for running on ours tg01 and other wvga device
thank you for sharing with us!
the cab has 24 MB. I think is a light version and not full worked sense?
pls describe what has function and what fails
thanks!
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Is it possible this sense cab has been run through Chainfire's CFC Compression utilities?
mirolg said:
melpycar said:
i ve posted the new version of htc sense with the other cabs that we need for running on ours tg01 and other wvga device
thank you for sharing with us!
the cab has 24 MB. I think is a light version and not full worked sense?
pls describe what has function and what fails
thanks!
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Yeh same question here! hey miro, glad to see you got yourself a galaxy tab, i also got mine a month ago! do you still have your tg01?
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I tried installing this, 2 things:
After installing the cab for sense, before you restart your tg01 remember to run the sdhc cab otherwise you won't have access to your sd card!
Also, weather does not seem to work for me.
Had to hard reset my device
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I tried installing this, 2 things:
After installing the cab for sense, before you restart your tg01 remember to run the sdhc cab otherwise you won't have access to your sd card!
Also, weather does not seem to work for me.
Had to hard reset my device
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thanks, how much ROM memory does.it take up after install?
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mirolg said:
Yeh same question here! hey miro, glad to see you got yourself a galaxy tab, i also got mine a month ago! do you still have your tg01?
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Yes, i have my TG01 baby also. Galaxy tab and froyo 2.2 is so cool. I have flash with XJM6 firmware.
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olyloh6696 said:
Yes, i have my TG01 baby also. Galaxy tab and froyo 2.2 is so cool. I have flash with XJM6 firmware.
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cool im still on the stock froyo build :/
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thanks, how much ROM memory does.it take up after install?
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It takes up about 60-61mb i think
Been testing this afternoon, with ffboy's 21908 clean 6.5 rom i have about 58mb free ram, if i disable start menu i can get upto about 84mb free ram, not bad, messaging for sms works ok it seems, shame weather doesn't seem to work, perhaps thats to do with a missing commmanager, not sure yet.
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It takes up about 60-61mb i think
Been testing this afternoon, with ffboy's 21908 clean 6.5 rom i have about 58mb free ram, if i disable start menu i can get upto about 84mb free ram, not bad, messaging for sms works ok it seems, shame weather doesn't seem to work, perhaps thats to do with a missing commmanager, not sure yet.
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weather works on 100% .. commanager isn't present for obtain free ram !
InsertNameHere said:
It takes up about 60-61mb i think
Been testing this afternoon, with ffboy's 21908 clean 6.5 rom i have about 58mb free ram, if i disable start menu i can get upto about 84mb free ram, not bad, messaging for sms works ok it seems, shame weather doesn't seem to work, perhaps thats to do with a missing commmanager, not sure yet.
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wow! that seems like a nice amount. on ffboys 6.5 sense rom if i dusable startmenu, htc phone dialer + lockscreen, i can only get a maximum of 81mb at boot, with only 6 tabs enabled! the ram sounds very nice on this. any other bugs found?
This sense works SOO smooth and quick! I like it! A good option to not use a sense rom, but just a nice clean rom and then this on top! Left me ample of free space to use for my apps!
I have LOADS of apps installed on it, but I am using miROM4 (very stable and clean!) and I have 224MB worth of phone storage used up (out of 268MB) - and in terms of memory usage - 45MB still available after all my apps installed and this sense installed. I am looking forward to disabling start menu and will see how much difference it can make.
Does 45MB sound good guys? Especially after me having a lot of cabs installed already! My phone isn't freezing or hanging at all!
Following works perfect:
Flip Clock
Calender
Quicklinks
People tab
Messaging tab (with HTC)
Emails tab
Calender tab
Internet tab (adding bookmarks a bit slow, and can't see preview)
Photos tab
Stocks tab
Twitter tab
Audio tab
Settings tab
Following doesn't work:
Wireless controls don't work in settings
I need some free RAM I guess Any ideas how?
I tried to install Start menu replacement - and lost access to my storage card! I had to use hard reset, now I will update fresh free RAM with miROM4.
Results
Only 71MB free on a totally neat and clean miROM4!! Should I be disappointed? How come miROM cooks sense in his rom with other stuffs and gets away with 80+ free RAM!
drupad2drupad said:
This sense works SOO smooth and quick! I like it! A good option to not use a sense rom, but just a nice clean rom and then this on top! Left me ample of free space to use for my apps!
I have LOADS of apps installed on it, but I am using miROM4 (very stable and clean!) and I have 224MB worth of phone storage used up (out of 268MB) - and in terms of memory usage - 45MB still available after all my apps installed and this sense installed. I am looking forward to disabling start menu and will see how much difference it can make.
Does 45MB sound good guys? Especially after me having a lot of cabs installed already! My phone isn't freezing or hanging at all!
Following works perfect:
Flip Clock
Calender
Quicklinks
People tab
Messaging tab (with HTC)
Emails tab
Calender tab
Internet tab (adding bookmarks a bit slow, and can't see preview)
Photos tab
Stocks tab
Twitter tab
Audio tab
Settings tab
Following doesn't work:
Wireless controls don't work in settings
I need some free RAM I guess Any ideas how?
I tried to install Start menu replacement - and lost access to my storage card! I had to use hard reset, now I will update fresh free RAM with miROM4.
Results
Only 71MB free on a totally neat and clean miROM4!! Should I be disappointed? How come miROM cooks sense in his rom with other stuffs and gets away with 80+ free RAM!
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hi drupad2drupad!
i will be honest with you... 45mb is soo little to play with. before i began using start menu disabler, i used to get 45mb too, which sounded nice. but now with the startmenu dosable + manilla dialer, and lock screen, im used to seeing 70mb plus all the time! the lowest it will drop to is 60mb. on boot it has about 80mb. which would you rather have... less ram for more eye candy(windows startmenu) or 10mb extra ram for a standard startmenu. same with the manilla phone dialer, and lock screwn. think about the 30-40mb extra RAM you can save. it can run so many more programs. aand potentialy give better battery life? i advise that you back up your device before installing the replacement. if you don't get it right, you may not be able to a get to any menu at all and have yo hard reset. make sure you have sense running before you install the cab. i willpost you some links when i am back on my pc.. (on my tg atm) but do asearch on the forum. BTW may be oftopic but if you use these tweaks with spb shell you get 90mb + RAM!!!! i use spb shell with mobilesense themethough , so i get 80-70mb RAM. but use miros 'trick' to try and stop the memory leak problem.
cheers!
olyloh6696 said:
hi drupad2drupad!
i will be honest with you... 45mb is soo little to play with. before i began using start menu disabler, i used to get 45mb too, which sounded nice. but now with the startmenu dosable + manilla dialer, and lock screen, im used to seeing 70mb plus all the time! the lowest it will drop to is 60mb. on boot it has about 80mb. which would you rather have... less ram for more eye candy(windows startmenu) or 10mb extra ram for a standard startmenu. same with the manilla phone dialer, and lock screwn. think about the 30-40mb extra RAM you can save. it can run so many more programs. aand potentialy give better battery life? i advise that you back up your device before installing the replacement. if you don't get it right, you may not be able to a get to any menu at all and have yo hard reset. make sure you have sense running before you install the cab. i willpost you some links when i am back on my pc.. (on my tg atm) but do asearch on the forum. BTW may be oftopic but if you use these tweaks with spb shell you get 90mb + RAM!!!! i use spb shell with mobilesense themethough , so i get 80-70mb RAM. but use miros 'trick' to try and stop the memory leak problem.
cheers!
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Thanks a lot for your input Oly!
Here is what happened last night:
I am using miROM4 - Retroclassic type 6.5.x clean.
I add throttle launcher and played around with this amazing WM7 theme by fireslave - very smooth and close integration too - but battery drain was massive! Lost my battery in less than 3 hours!
I started looking in the forum to see if I can find a solution, and stumbled across another WM7 theme that was just uploaded by headhunter. Amazing theme, tried it, battery drain issue same, but more integration, din't like the tiles look - so disable it.
Removed both themes and throttle launcher completely.
Installed SPB Shell and tried Doc&Mskips Android themes- as much as the eye candy they are, they help explore SPB to max! Loved it, no battery issues, no ram issues. But since I ended up being a little perfectionist, I hated those lags in loading icons - spoilt the look of tg01 and theme! Everytime I swipe to next page and icons take few microseconds to load! :s (that is THE only feature I HATE about SPB!)
So removed SPB and themes completely.
Then came across this Sense. Installed it, played around. Made that feedback. It ran smooth even with such low memory, but then while adding facebook pictures to contacts, it took absolute ages and froze too!
Another bug I discovered was - messaging. Although I said it works, it doesn't completely! I found that when I tried replying messages from HTC client, it kept saying 'Sim error, switch on the phone!' However, my phone obviously was switched on and the issue I guess is with 'Wireless/comm manager' as mentioned before.
Issue with disabling start menu and replacing it : I used the cabs to replace start menu, but I think the sd card cab in first post is somehow related to winmo start menu. As soon as I disabled my start menu on this sense, I lost access to my sd card!! I removed the cab after this and SD card access was back :s
So removed sense too! hard reset my phone 3 times to make sure I have nothing left on it.
Now I am using basic, very basic windows phone with over 140mb clean ram. No UIs installed. It has 6.5.x start menu at bottom, on the home page I have SMS indicator and date with black wallpaper. I know it sounds so boring, but works FAAAAst! I will be bored with it soon but I was so fed up with memory issues, sms issues, UI lag issues and freezes, battery drains!
I am using my tg01 for occasional browsing, calls, texts since 11pm last night and my battery remaining is 90% !!
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks a lot for your input Oly!
Here is what happened last night:
I am using miROM4 - Retroclassic type 6.5.x clean.
I add throttle launcher and played around with this amazing WM7 theme by fireslave - very smooth and close integration too - but battery drain was massive! Lost my battery in less than 3 hours!
I started looking in the forum to see if I can find a solution, and stumbled across another WM7 theme that was just uploaded by headhunter. Amazing theme, tried it, battery drain issue same, but more integration, din't like the tiles look - so disable it.
Removed both themes and throttle launcher completely.
Installed SPB Shell and tried Doc&Mskips Android themes- as much as the eye candy they are, they help explore SPB to max! Loved it, no battery issues, no ram issues. But since I ended up being a little perfectionist, I hated those lags in loading icons - spoilt the look of tg01 and theme! Everytime I swipe to next page and icons take few microseconds to load! :s (that is THE only feature I HATE about SPB!)
So removed SPB and themes completely.
Then came across this Sense. Installed it, played around. Made that feedback. It ran smooth even with such low memory, but then while adding facebook pictures to contacts, it took absolute ages and froze too!
Another bug I discovered was - messaging. Although I said it works, it doesn't completely! I found that when I tried replying messages from HTC client, it kept saying 'Sim error, switch on the phone!' However, my phone obviously was switched on and the issue I guess is with 'Wireless/comm manager' as mentioned before.
Issue with disabling start menu and replacing it : I used the cabs to replace start menu, but I think the sd card cab in first post is somehow related to winmo start menu. As soon as I disabled my start menu on this sense, I lost access to my sd card!! I removed the cab after this and SD card access was back :s
So removed sense too! hard reset my phone 3 times to make sure I have nothing left on it.
Now I am using basic, very basic windows phone with over 140mb clean ram. No UIs installed. It has 6.5.x start menu at bottom, on the home page I have SMS indicator and date with black wallpaper. I know it sounds so boring, but works FAAAAst! I will be bored with it soon but I was so fed up with memory issues, sms issues, UI lag issues and freezes, battery drains!
I am using my tg01 for occasional browsing, calls, texts since 11pm last night and my battery remaining is 90% !!
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wow! soundslike you spent ages trying to customize your phone! abt the issue with htc messaging client, i think it is something to do with the default htc messaging 1.5 not included in this compiled cab. i havent really tested it yet, so i really cant halo you there i our throttle launcher as well, but i agree; battery usage is too much(newer version rely on the 3d accelorator to run contantly, therefore sucking up your battery and RAM. i was going to try mskip's and doc3000 droid theme too, but didint get a chance! i recommend using mskips wp7 theme... it is beautiful! there isno lag, plenty of free RAM, and great battery life. i also dont experience the spb icon lag thing. i think it is based more around 6.5.5 builds. they are generally slower, and consume more resourcses which give you less RAM and speed. also how did you mangage to get 140mb of free RAM!!! i tried using plain windows mobile hone screen (not titanium) and with all startmenu etc disabled i only get 100mb + on a 6.5 rom...
anyway cheers hope this helps!
olyloh6696 said:
wow! soundslike you spent ages trying to customize your phone! abt the issue with htc messaging client, i think it is something to do with the default htc messaging 1.5 not included in this compiled cab. i havent really tested it yet, so i really cant halo you there i our throttle launcher as well, but i agree; battery usage is too much(newer version rely on the 3d accelorator to run contantly, therefore sucking up your battery and RAM. i was going to try mskip's and doc3000 droid theme too, but didint get a chance! i recommend using mskips wp7 theme... it is beautiful! there isno lag, plenty of free RAM, and great battery life. i also dont experience the spb icon lag thing. i think it is based more around 6.5.5 builds. they are generally slower, and consume more resourcses which give you less RAM and speed. also how did you mangage to get 140mb of free RAM!!! i tried using plain windows mobile hone screen (not titanium) and with all startmenu etc disabled i only get 100mb + on a 6.5 rom...
anyway cheers hope this helps!
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Sorry melpycar, not hijacking your thread!
I have tried mskips wm7 on spb. To be honest I love all spb themes, but dont like spb lag! I will flash a 6.5 rom and see if it's solved! I think 140mb free ram at boot near to default on mirom4 approx 100mb :s
But after giving it some time it drops to about 90mb free (stays constant approx all the time)
I din't do anything special at all. If you disable startmenu on plain winmo home screen, how did you manage to access programs :S
Regarding this cab - I would love to see if pyro's htc messaging clients are included! I tried to replace current messaging client by pyro's one but it lead me to black screen. I was able to do it on sense roms, but not on this sense. Any chance to being able to cab it up? This cab is surely smoother than sense roms, but if these above mentioned issues are fixed, it will work a charm. I haven't tried using CHT, CHTE with this sense as I had exchange emails encyption on, but could someone please try and tell us if CHT works? and also RAM update after CHT please?
drupad2drupad said:
Sorry melpycar, not hijacking your thread!
I have tried mskips wm7 on spb. To be honest I love all spb themes, but dont like spb lag! I will flash a 6.5 rom and see if it's solved! I think 140mb free ram at boot near to default on mirom4 approx 100mb :s
But after giving it some time it drops to about 90mb free (stays constant approx all the time)
I din't do anything special at all. If you disable startmenu on plain winmo home screen, how did you manage to access programs :S
Regarding this cab - I would love to see if pyro's htc messaging clients are included! I tried to replace current messaging client by pyro's one but it lead me to black screen. I was able to do it on sense roms, but not on this sense. Any chance to being able to cab it up? This cab is surely smoother than sense roms, but if these above mentioned issues are fixed, it will work a charm. I haven't tried using CHT, CHTE with this sense as I had exchange emails encyption on, but could someone please try and tell us if CHT works? and also RAM update after CHT please?
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this sense is really quick because it is one of the latest builds, 2019. im currently using build 2016. it is very quick but could be as quick as this! i havent hade any time to test, i will try to soon asap! a tip to save ram is get yourself MMTaskManager (somewhere on this forum) then after you finish acessing music and photo videos tab, kill the processes AudioManager.exe and AlbumSearcher.exe this can save you a total of whooping 15mb ram! i have been using this method for many months now, im deciding on creating a thread on how to save RAM on sense... i know so many tweaks!
i will see if i can try miros miROM4 and get that RAM! Yeh disabling the starymenu with standard today srreen will not let u acess your apps, but you can install QuickMenu or MMAppLauncher.
cheers!
olyloh6696 said:
this sense is really quick because it is one of the latest builds, 2019. im currently using build 2016. it is very quick but could be as quick as this! i havent hade any time to test, i will try to soon asap! a tip to save ram is get yourself MMTaskManager (somewhere on this forum) then after you finish acessing music and photo videos tab, kill the processes AudioManager.exe and AlbumSearcher.exe this can save you a total of whooping 15mb ram! i have been using this method for many months now, im deciding on creating a thread on how to save RAM on sense... i know so many tweaks!
i will see if i can try miros miROM4 and get that RAM! Yeh disabling the starymenu with standard today srreen will not let u acess your apps, but you can install QuickMenu or MMAppLauncher.
cheers!
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hello olyloh6696, thank you to point me to MMTaskManager. In forum i can´t find a cab. can you the upload, please.
info of this sense 2019:
Thanks to jmart518 for this cab and melpycar for sharing.
After install and after audio-fix, Musictab works fine.
Album don´t work. No Home Background change, no Contact Photos
(Contact/Homebackround/Pic- Fix, one bug= fonts in menu to big)
Locating- Settings in Settings not works.
weather works only with manual editing, not over Locating (over wifi)
No phone dailing from Favorite Contacts (Manila Dailer-fix)
i will make and upload the necessary fixes