Question: Is this legal - General Topics

Hello,
I'm reading the forum for some months now and I have to thank everybody for the mass of information that can be found here.
My question:
At our company, we have about 70 people all using an HTC P4350 (Herald). A lot of those people like the HTC Touch interface (the HTC home plugin), problem: the Herald don't come with that plugin.
Do you guys thinks that it is legal to install the HTC Home plugin on the Herald?
Thanks for your responses.

The HTC Home Plugin is freeware.

Jadel said:
The HTC Home Plugin is freeware.
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Exactly, it's totally and completely legal, if HTC had minded this then they would have made it harder to get in the first place but they don't, in fact they probably appreciate people using their software on their phones.

OK, thanks for the clarification!

they dont as far as i know just let people dl it from their site havent read their EULA
but i would not call it freeware and any direct inquiries aimed directly at htc would prob get the response that it's not free
i would put in the category HTC dontcareWare

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Petition for official WM6 update

Hey guys, while searching around I came across this petition:
To: HTC Headquarters
We, the undersigned, would like to request that HTC releases an official Windows Mobile 6 Professional ROM for the HTC Universal PocketPC Phone.
We do believe that it is unfair, to say the least, to spend up to $1300 or €1000 for a Pocket PC phone, and not have a proper after-sales support in terms of OS upgrades, just one and a half year afterwards.
We do not understand HTC's decision to provide free WM6 upgrades to other PDA models, such as the HTC Advantage, the HTC TyTn, the HTC S620, the HTC P3300, and the HTC 4350, due to them being focused in messaging, and leaving out the HTC Universal, a PocketPC which, due to it's unique shape and hardware QWERTY keyboard, remains highly focused on messaging, office work, and internet browsing.
Over the past months, a number of "cooked" WM6 ROMs for the HTC Universal were released on unofficial websites. Those ROMs, even though being unofficial and thus having a ton of problems, proved to be superior from WM5, both in terms of PocketPC and phone usability, and numerous people use them for everyday use.
So, we kindly request HTC to consider the possibility of releasing at least a Windows Mobile 6 Professional WWE English ROM for the HTC Universal.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
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Windows Mobile 6 for the HTC Universal petition
I highly doubt that something may come out of this, but it's worth trying
I agree with you, who knows??
Good job
Signed. Will spread among the friends...
Petition signed
Can someone sticky this?
Enjoy!
hi
i have signed, requesting do the same,this might work
Regards
hi
i have signed, requesting everyone else to do the same,this might work
Regards
hi all
i have signed, and i'll requesting everyone in www.ce4arab.com
to do the same
Regards
Signed
Will ask other people too.
Who cares about HTC, I thought Imate who sold the device to me, should be providing the wm6 rom.
SIGNED
I'm with you guys 1000000000%
Digs said:
Who cares about HTC, I thought Imate who sold the device to me, should be providing the wm6 rom.
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HTC is the manufacturer of the device HTC Universal. Imate just rebranded it as JasJar. If HTC doesn't do it. No way I-mate will.
Hi
Just signed in!
there are 60 signatures in total as of today... including mine
i think this is a long shot but you have my 1 vote guys!
regards
ethan
Has anyone here inform the HTC about this petition?
btw, SIGNED.
Signed.
I will tell it in spanish forum.
SIGNED
Signed too.
signed..hopefully they give it to us
signed as well.
and now, let's keep our fingers crossed for a few years until the last Uni user dies of old age...
SIGNED
Signed As Well
Signed......lets see hey
Signed, lets hope it works !!

Htc Plugin & Touchflo

Can anyone tell me how to get the 6 tab HTC Home Plugin & the Touchflo cube on a Treo 750 for AT&T? I have tried to find it but I just can't seem to, Thanks to anyone who can help. Also I have used Touch Commander, is it a good sub for the Touchflo cube?
AT&T TREO 750 Windows Mobile 6
your choice of phone is your problem
kingvash said:
Can anyone tell me how to get the 6 tab HTC Home Plugin & the Touchflo cube on a Treo 750 for AT&T? I have tried to find it but I just can't seem to, Thanks to anyone who can help. Also I have used Touch Commander, is it a good sub for the Touchflo cube?
AT&T TREO 750 Windows Mobile 6
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Might want to try getting the right phone.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437
Sorry, but the Treo and HTC phones aren't even the same breed, go searching on the Treo forums for something similar.
My post is about as kind as you're going to receive... sorry buddy, you're barking up the wrong site.
mengesb said:
Might want to try getting the right phone.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437
Sorry, but the Treo and HTC phones aren't even the same breed, go searching on the Treo forums for something similar.
My post is about as kind as you're going to receive... sorry buddy, you're barking up the wrong site.
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You handled that very well!!
Well i actually have the 3tab home plugin as well as the touchflo cube and they work great, someone in another thread showed me where to get them, i guess you are not as knowledgeable or intelligent as you thought. You do show however, that ignorance and rudeness knows no boundaries.
Have a good day, fool.
mengesb said:
Might want to try getting the right phone.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437
Sorry, but the Treo and HTC phones aren't even the same breed, go searching on the Treo forums for something similar.
My post is about as kind as you're going to receive... sorry buddy, you're barking up the wrong site.
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I dont think the type of phone really matters as long as they both run Windows Mobile..
kingvash said:
Well i actually have the 3tab home plugin as well as the touchflo cube and they work great, someone in another thread showed me where to get them, i guess you are not as knowledgeable or intelligent as you thought. You do show however, that ignorance and rudeness knows no boundaries.
Have a good day, fool.
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I don't go bothering to insult others.
Its a well known fact that the HTC menu system may well be modularized and CAB'd per say but the effect of its usefulness in another hardware environment may well differ due to the differences in hardware. For an uneducated fool as you so call me, you apparently didn't think to take this into your almighty omnipotence before hitting the reply button and piece mealing together a few choice consonants and vowels.
Case and point - the Treo Picture Dial feature works in most variants of devices for Windows Mobile, but not all - therefore is unreliable and results not predictable.
Again, my suggestion stems from looking in the right place for the right developers. You have a Treo device, it would make more sense to look up this kind of information in the 'Treo Nuts' sites (and yes, they're called that). If you want cross collaboration, then bring the files from here to there, but the developers here aren't much involved with the Treo device as this site has primarily to do with HTC variants of devices (my experiences).
Windows Mobile may be Windows Mobile, but you also have to consider other things, OMAP processors, ARM processors, INTEL processors, hardware chipset vendors, hardware response buttons, system integration... the list goes on.
Feel judicially educated... for someone to insult a long standing member of this forum by someone registered for mere days compared to my 1.5 years of assistance and dedication to numerous developers here, your opinion weighs in as very little if not non-consequential sir.
If you intend on being as rude to other fellow developers, testers, or other well standing members here, you're going to find a very rude awakening to future questions. Consider it a polite etiquette reminder to those who you're asking help from to you, a person who in their 6th post hauls off and tells a contributing member of this community that he knows very little of the device he's owned for 2 years and has used about every developer's rom here.
Your response isn't necessary. Just listen - you'll mind well by that.
I see the intentions of your first message, Thank you

New Update By Htc

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
zaharakis said:
i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
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I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs
Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..
and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads
Things that might improove
Hey,
The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...
Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
i think that zaharakis says what we all feel
htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs
Isaygarcia said:
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
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This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.
Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
Rayan said:
On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
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I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.
hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything
dubbeld00 said:
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
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your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??
i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public
so they just yellow us for another one time
Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC
I remember when!
Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.
- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.
So, by updating what the hell do I gain?
My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.
nphil said:
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
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It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.
why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang !

"official" manila 2d, did HTC rip us off?

I have read about the new Touch Viva from HTC and the interface looks really similar to ours.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchviva/overview.html
Matter in fact it looks just like the manila 2d cab the community has been working on since HTC doesn't want to come out with video drivers.
1 of 2 things:
Awesome! We now have a cab to rip off these new devices
Damn! They stole our code!
What does the community think?
Did you made an interface and HTC stole it?
If I were you, I would go straight to the police!
i think htc needs to be sued. they neglect there products and rip-off other peoples hard work.
manilla 2d has been out long before vivo with proof of conception. and today htc is making millions off manilla 2d.
IF U NEED HELP PAYING FOR A LAWYER I THINK EVERYONE HERE CAN CHIP IN SOME CASH TO PAY FOR AN ADVANCE ON A LAWYER
must....resist....
sorry had to. manilla 2d, is an app ny htc. the community has redone it so it can be installed on more and more devices. (even none htc mobiles)
rockerrock said:
I have read about the new Touch Viva from HTC and the interface looks really similar to ours.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchviva/overview.html
Matter in fact it looks just like the manila 2d cab the community has been working on since HTC doesn't want to come out with video drivers.
1 of 2 things:
Awesome! We now have a cab to rip off these new devices
Damn! They stole our code!
What does the community think?
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I hope this is a joke the Manila 2D is made by HTC and riped by us someone got a hold of one of their beta and released it

toshiba

is it possible to add a new group of phones on index? i would really like to see toshiba phones such as g810 there...
thanks!
This is an HTC Forum.. you could use "Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking" ROOM in "General Discussion": a lot of people do that
D'rath
Although I probably won't own a Toshiba, I also think that it would be a good idea to add devices to this forum such as the G01. This is the best windows mobile site, and I think that there are people out there willing to develop and start a community around the new Toshiba phones. They all just need a place to stay
HTC only
As stated several times before...
This is an HTC devices only forum and no section will be added for any non HTC device, this is the point of view of the owners of the site wich I support.
"htc only" heh... Just not true dude!!! Browse the forum!!!
skyler17 said:
Although I probably won't own a Toshiba, I also think that it would be a good idea to add devices to this forum such as the G01. This is the best windows mobile site, and I think that there are people out there willing to develop and start a community around the new Toshiba phones. They all just need a place to stay
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I absolutely agree!!! Plus on that list are non HTC phones like HP iPaqs and SE Xperia... So why not just add ASUS and Toshiba? Simple as that! It would contribute a lot, cause searching for non listed phones is just messy right now!!!
Anyway to prevent further ranting, these were my two cents... Over and out...
Cheers
they're not branded by HTC but manufactured by HTC
it's been discussed long and many times ago, Browse the forum!!!
Cheese and Cheers
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