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Flashing to Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid v2

Hi guys, I decided that my first ROM to flash is going to be Dutty's. Now, before you say "Read the Wiki" or "Read the Stickies" or "Read this Post" I already have, and I couldn't find the answers to these questions:
1. Do I have to HardSPL my device every time I flash a new ROM, or just once before the first one?
2. How can I upgrade/make sure I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1?
3. Do I flash a ROM before flashing a radio, or vice-versa?
Thanks

mbarvian said:
Hi guys, I decided that my first ROM to flash is going to be Dutty's. Now, before you say "Read the Wiki" or "Read the Stickies" or "Read this Post" I already have, and I couldn't find the answers to these questions:
1. Do I have to HardSPL my device every time I flash a new ROM, or just once before the first one?
2. How can I upgrade/make sure I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1?
3. Do I flash a ROM before flashing a radio, or vice-versa?
Thanks
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I have made the words i believe to be wholly untrue bold so they stand out more. Here is the link to the answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Please don't clutter the forum with these kind of questions. I know that ALL of those questions are either self evident...or they have been answered 1000 times before.

Hes right, they're all there, i discovered this for myself after i asked the same thing!

I'm sorry if i sounded harsh. If you're feeling understanding, try looking through the threads in the "rom DEVELOPMENT" forum and see how many threads actually have anything to do with developing roms. Maybe you'll understand my frustrations.

skatdawg said:
I'm sorry if i sounded harsh. If you're feeling understanding, try looking through the threads in the "rom DEVELOPMENT" forum and see how many threads actually have anything to do with developing roms. Maybe you'll understand my frustrations.
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yeah, I realize it probably is very annoying, and i'll try searching again. thanks

mbarvian said:
yeah, I realize it probably is very annoying, and i'll try searching again. thanks
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In the interest of being nice, here's the answers to your questions. I know it's a little overwhelming when you first are taking the plunge.
1. Do I have to HardSPL my device every time I flash a new ROM, or just once before the first one?
you only have to flash hardspl once. Before you flash custom roms. Absolutely do nothing else till you've done this.
2. How can I upgrade/make sure I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1?
Any of the new roms that are released should be WM6.1 roms, so just try a few and see which you like the best...i personally love shogun's Death V2 rom the best of all that are out right now.
3. Do I flash a ROM before flashing a radio, or vice-versa?
It doesn't matter, most roms have compatible radios with them, but if they don't then just download a radio and flash it before or after the rom

thank you!

Mods please delete this thread.

No sound on external speaker after flash

Long story short, I was getting the white screen when trying to hardspl so I used the roundabout way (using softspl to flash hardspl) which worked and then proceeded to flash the new Death business edition V4 wm6.1. Unfortunately when I was trying to change the ringtone from the default I noticed that there was no sound, so I tried to call the phone and it didn't ring. However when I call out I can hear on the ear speaker. Has anyone had any issues like this? I would appreciate any help you could give.

wrong radio maybe... try to flash the recommended radio

jldiablo said:
wrong radio maybe... try to flash the recommended radio
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Okay I just checked for confirmation and the rom came with no radio and I'm using 1.27.14.09.
I've got two phones with the same rom but different radios and different protocol versions. Does the protocol make any difference?
The phone that is working properly has a radio of 1.65.16.25

The radio is the problem. Any WM6.1 cooked or not needs a radio other than 1.27 version. Check the wiki and the radio link!
Protocol version should not be a problem.

Dangerously said:
The radio is the problem. Any WM6.1 cooked or not needs a radio other than 1.27 version. Check the wiki and the radios link!
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Awesome, you're great. I am new to the scene so I appreciate the advice.
Also, I've been reading the wiki and the faqs but sometimes it is faster to ask and get a response. I do appreciate the help.

surely the WM6.1 Rom won't work with ur 1.27.xx.xx radio.... flash a 1.65.xx.xx or the 1.58.25.17 to ur phone and the problem will be solved, i think~
ur can find a complete set of radios here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
btw, dont worry about the protocol

SharpieMarker said:
Awesome, you're great. I am new to the scene so I appreciate the advice.
Also, I've been reading the wiki and the faqs but sometimes it is faster to ask and get a response. I do appreciate the help.
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im not singleing you out but thats what pisses off a lot of the senior members. they take alot of time to develop what you use and answer questions and no one takes the time to search. this is why its hard to find anything on here you get hundreds of repeated threadss started and the original answer gets pushed farther down the list.

Changing the ROM of my kaiser...steps to success

Hi, first of all I tell you I'm new in this forum. Afterward I tell you that before posting this thread I read the different FAQs and guides posted hera and I search for my following question but I didn,t find any answer.
I want to change my original ROM that came with my phone but I have few things I want to know before beginning the process. These are:
1- Any ROM will work with my phone? I brought my phone from US and it was unblocked, so I can use it with any SIM from any company here, in Argentina.
The problem is that in the page where all the ROMs are described I don't find my ROM version. My ROM version is 1.82.707.0 WWE and the Radio Version is 1.27.15.32. The protocol version is 22.51.88.13W and the ROM date is 11/03/07. In the Model No it says "Kaiser". The most aproximate version I found in that page is 1.81.707.0 and the Radio associated with it is 1.27.12.11. What I want is to change my ROM to beging using WM6.1 cause the version of my WM is 6.0, but I don't know if I chose any of the ROM that are available or I have to take care of something I don't know.
2- Suposing I can chose any ROM available, is it convenient to use it with the radio that is associated with it or I have to continue using my radio version (1.27.15.32)?
3- If I change the ROM following all the steps that are described in other FAQs or threads, the phone will continue unblocked in order to be useable with any company or it will be blocked for a certain one, for example AT&T? Remember I am in Argentina.
4- How can I do to backup my current ROM and Radio so, if I have any problem I could restore it to my phone? It is supposed that if I do so (restoring the original ROM) the phone will operate as it's doing now, insn't it?
Well, that all for now.
Thanks a lot.
Guido.

My dear friend all the questions you ask have been asked many times and answered many times. I have a hard time believing when you say you have read everything .. because your post makes it obvious you haven't. Nonetheless i'll answer these questions here for you:
guido_7701 said:
1- Any ROM will work with my phone? I brought my phone from US and it was unblocked, so I can use it with any SIM from any company here, in Argentina.
The problem is that in the page where all the ROMs are described I don't find my ROM version. My ROM version is 1.82.707.0 WWE and the Radio Version is 1.27.15.32. The protocol version is 22.51.88.13W and the ROM date is 11/03/07. In the Model No it says "Kaiser". The most aproximate version I found in that page is 1.81.707.0 and the Radio associated with it is 1.27.12.11. What I want is to change my ROM to beging using WM6.1 cause the version of my WM is 6.0, but I don't know if I chose any of the ROM that are available or I have to take care of something I don't know.
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Yes "any kaiser rom" will work with your phone. But first you need to get Hardspl than you can flash any rom that is available here to your phone. Looks like you have a wm6 rom and wm6 radio. When you upgrade to wm6.1 you will need a wm6.1 radio. Most roms come with radios so you don't need to worry about this. If a rom doesn't have a radio the cook will specify that and most will often suggest which radios work best with their rom. To see a list of different radios available please check link in my sig for Alltheway's thread on radios.
guido_7701 said:
2- Suposing I can chose any ROM available, is it convenient to use it with the radio that is associated with it or I have to continue using my radio version (1.27.15.32)?
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i already answered this in my above answer. But to reiterate wm6 rom will work with a wm6 radio i.e what you already have; a wm6.1 rom WILL NEED a wm6.1 radio so it won't work with your current radio.
guido_7701 said:
3- If I change the ROM following all the steps that are described in other FAQs or threads, the phone will continue unblocked in order to be useable with any company or it will be blocked for a certain one, for example AT&T? Remember I am in Argentina.
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flashing a rom in no way changes the unlocked status of your phone.
guido_7701 said:
4- How can I do to backup my current ROM and Radio so, if I have any problem I could restore it to my phone? It is supposed that if I do so (restoring the original ROM) the phone will operate as it's doing now, insn't it?
Well, that all for now.
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umm okay you don't wana do this yourself as i don't think so you know how to. Most of the stock kaiser roms are available in the wiki and have links to download them. In the even that you want to return your phone back to its original rom you can download from kaiser wiki.
Secondly please do extensive reading... your post shows that you really haven't done your homework. A kaiser is a expensive piece of equipment and you definitely don't want to mess it up just because you were lazy and didn't want to first understand exactly what you were doing.
Having said that i wish you good luck and happy flashing.

Thesire...first of all I really appreciate your quick answers tomy questions. I have to confess I didn't think to get an answer so quickly.
Anyway, I have to tell you that I didn't write anywhere I had read "everything" as you say. Of course I didn't, all the time in the universe life would be enough to do it. But you can be sure I followed all the instructions that are posted to do before posting a new thread, and those include reading the FAQ of ROM Developing, seeing the charming video of "what to do before posting a new thread", search my questions, and I tell you I spent all the last thursday looking for any answer to my questions, but I didn,t find them. I am not saying that they are not, of course they may be, but I didn't find them. Perhaps, of course, it's almost sure is because I didn't know how to search. But I did it. I read about the different SPLs that I have to download, the different version of them I have to try if I have for ie. the blank display, etc.
Another thing, when you say that always I can have the posibility to restore my original ROM downloading it, I told that in the thread that appears all the ROMs my actual version is not there. So, I wonder where my ROM is comming from and who cooked it.
At last, but not for that less important, I want to really thank you for your and for the time you spent answering my questions. Just remember I'm a newbie and perhaps, someday I'll be answering a question from you in this theme or another, ie. communications!!! Also remember that for us, the people who don't have the english as our natural languaje, sometimes reading the posts can be a little difficult and can be reading something that is answering our question and don't actually realize it or don't understand it at all.
Thanks.
Guido.

Guido Welcome aboard....follow the advice just givem and you will have a great experience here
Read this thread , and if you have any questions , post them in there as well, there is some great people that will help you out if you get stuck..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

Closing Thread.

Any HTC Stock 6.1 ROMs in nbh form without radio out there?

Been trying to get used to flashing from SD card but can't seem to find a Stock ROM that is suitable. They all seem to come as exe files. I found a good list of reconstructed 6.0 ROMs but can't find any 6.1 ones.
Does this mean everyone flashes to Stock via USB first? Or am I missing something ?

I would like to know this too!
I pulled the nbh from the exe on at&ts website but when I tried flashing from my sd card it only changed my spl and radio back to stock but not the rom.

try to unrar .exe file with winrar

Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard

Pisca said:
Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard
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Thanks. Look like what I was after. Will give it a try next time .

I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.

I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio

f1ip said:
I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio
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Thanks for those . Any particular difference between the two versions? Is the Cingular one onlt for AT&T maybe? I have a UK Orange Tytnii.
Just thought maybe I shouldn't be keeping recommended radio when I reflash ROM? Is it best to reflash original radio first too or doesn't it make any difference?

ai6908 said:
I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.
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Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........

Thank you.

Restorer said:
Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........
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Seriously! You must be joking right?

ai6908 said:
Seriously! You must be joking right?
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Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue

ai6908 said:
Seriously! You must be joking right?
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No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.

stylez said:
Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue
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How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
For the record I not only read the instructions. I devour them! Then I learnt them parrot fashion before I began. I have been a lurker round here for years but only started flashing last week. And for the last several weeks I have been trawling through literally thousands of posts to be sure of getting it right.
Now please show me on those instruction pages where it tells you how you can find a stock HTC ROM without radio that can be flashed from an SD card!
ai6908 kindly referred me to his page where there is only a link to a stripped AT&T stock rom and to TCP's page where there is no mention either. I was also asking if it was necessary to reflash the same radio every time as none of the instructions mention if you have the radio you need already. Still not had an answer on this so maybe it's just a stupid question - just wish I knew the answer lol.
Thankfully more helpful souls than you have provided me with the file I need. Thanks again F1ip and Pisca.
Some of you people on here can be arrogant so and so's. I belong to many forums and have never come across anything like it. Look at all the space you wasted flaming me and now me having to defend myself! No wonder the kids on here post the way they do if this is the example they get set by senior members. I would wager well over half the posts on this forum are pointless flaming. And just ask yourself how many questions are really new and have not already been answered by someone somewhere here. And look how much space would have been saved if you hadn't butted in here on your high horse without reading my question properly .
Rant over.

Restorer said:
No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.
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Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.

ai6908 said:
Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.
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Interesting, thanks. Certainly would save time not having to go through the whole rigmarole every time. That's one of the main reasons I was asking about the cut-down roms. As least I wouldn't have to keep doing the radio as well. Now whether with my lack of experience I should be going against what the 6.5 chefs seem to all be advising ....... .
On the other hand I may never flash again since TCP's latest seems to tick all my boxes. But having summoned up the courage to get going in the first place and it opens up a whole new lease of life for your phone, you kinda get a bit hooked. So maybe when I find one where MotoHome runs fast and smooth on my old Kaiser ........

Restorer said:
How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
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Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer

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Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer
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Apologies accepted . As you might be abe able to tell, the flaming that goes on verywhere around here really gets to me and you certainly hit a nerve. I sometimes wonder if I've wandered onto some Fight Club site by mistake lol .
Yes I do know the exe files can be uncompressed but the radio is still in the nbh file - and one guy who tried using the nbz file on its own said it flashed the radio part ok but not the rom itself .
What I will do is delve a little more into what makes up the unzipped nbh file. Might be a good way to start getting into this kitchen stuff .

ROM, Kernel, Radio - BUT HOW?

OK, I finally got BakedSnack running on my device, and I love it. I know how to update it and everything so I'm good on that, what I can't find anywhere is an explenation on how to install a different Kernel or how to install "the latest Wimax and Radio"
What does that mean?? Why would I want to install a different Kernel? doesn't the ROM come with the Kernel? what's the difference between the two? And how do I update the radio or wimax? and what does that mean??
This FAQ should be a sticky!

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OK, I finally got BakedSnack running on my device, and I love it. I know how to update it and everything so I'm good on that, what I can't find anywhere is an explenation on how to install a different Kernel or how to install "the latest Wimax and Radio"
What does that mean?? Why would I want to install a different Kernel? doesn't the ROM come with the Kernel? what's the difference between the two? And how do I update the radio or wimax? and what does that mean??
This FAQ should be a sticky!
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Instructions for both of your qs are found within the op of the majority of roms on xda

yoerz said:
OK, I finally got BakedSnack running on my device, and I love it. I know how to update it and everything so I'm good on that, what I can't find anywhere is an explenation on how to install a different Kernel or how to install "the latest Wimax and Radio"
What does that mean?? Why would I want to install a different Kernel? doesn't the ROM come with the Kernel? what's the difference between the two? And how do I update the radio or wimax? and what does that mean??
This FAQ should be a sticky!
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First let me tell you that your FAQ is really a question, and belongs in the Q&A section.
Second, this question is already answered. If you check the stickies here in the dev section there are guides to this.
Try digging through these two.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic&useskin=vector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
The second one at least definitely has instructions on how to update your radio. Though I'm not sure the radio image in that thread is current. So you could use the first link to find a current radio image, and the second to flash it.
Good luck

Everything that you want are flashable, just like the way you flashed your Rom. Download and flash, unless their are additional instructions, like wiping. Most roms come with custom kernels, but if you want another one then find and flash.
I Think this should be in the q&a section..
Sent from my Money Printing Machine.

Good answer Brown. Really and truly this info should be in the Wiki ( I did not find information about radios in the wiki in a quick scan-maybe I missed it). There are lots of stickies and posts and sure the information is out there but it is very fragmented and peppered with alot of 'noise' from the various threads. Thanks for helping out the OP.

Read,read oh and most important READ.