is it just me or does opera browser (the one u buy) suck really bad? does it completely miss the zoom functionality that opera mini has????
am I missing something?
I would agree. I had a little play with Opera 9.5 beta but it was not as intuative as OperaMini. Certainly it did not have the full zoom out feature that makes OperaMini a great browser.
Regards
opera mini rocks ... opera mobile sucks .. it would be nice if they had a setting where i could define default zoom so i don't have to zoom in 100 times to get the text size that is good for me ...
hands down opera mini is better.
okay so im not crazy... I just don't understand why they wouldn't include the full page zoom functionality in their retail app... that's really the only reason to go outside of PIE anyways..
only problem with opera mini is that it sits in java and doesn't have the integration abilities that opera browser does but these nifty scripts people have created are making that more seamless... Opera really needs to get on the ball and make opera browser intriguing.
type opera:config in the address bar to fine tune the zoom options
make sure you read my past Opera Mini-related articles, where I thoroughly compared the two browsers.
Menneisyys said:
make sure you read my past Opera Mini-related articles, where I thoroughly compared the two browsers.
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Nope haven't seen that one... search for opera mini is like finding a needle in a haystack though. Got a friendly link?
Also... on the post about running opera:config in the address bar... does that give you access to some additional options or something? I don't have opera installed anymore atm to test.. does this enable the zoom/out/in functionality like opera mini or something?
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Also... on the post about running opera:config in the address bar... does that give you access to some additional options or something? I don't have opera installed anymore atm to test.. does this enable the zoom/out/in functionality like opera mini or something?
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Yes you get taken to the advanced options page where you can play with zoom above other things
i guess u guys were referring to the new 9.5 beta... i was referring to the version they have avail on their website.. 8.65 or something? which clearly is nothing compared to this newer version...
i installed the 9 beta and it does seem much better... will be a great release once it goes live.
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as in, when i click on a link in google maps, i want it to browse with opera mini and NOT PIE
side question, whats the diff between opera mini and the full opera mobile?
other than the fact that i need to pay
thanks
Did you search or RTFM???
Launch Opera, then Menu-Tools-Settings-Misc-and place a check mark next to Set Opera as Default. Not too hard to do.
As far as your second question is concerned, I'd suggest www.opera.com.
Opera mini isn't as easy as that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348515
So sorry. I'm using Opera 8.65 for Windows Mobile. It was real easy to make it my default browser. I still think Searching is a good idea.
Sorry about the misunderstanding
There is Opera MINI and Opera MOBILE
for mobile i know how to set cuz it's an exe file
but since MINI is a java base file and requires a midlet, i had to ask for more advice on how to do it
and as i suspected
it's more complicated than i thought
Thanks for trying to help, though, kimtyson
Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Pocket Explorer
Opera
Deepfish - damn shame this was never continued!
Cheers
Opera have 2 releases, you didn't mention which one you have. Opera Mobile is one of them but its not free, its good for tabbed browsing and downloads but personally i can't get along with it as it runs slow on my handset and often has script errors, plus struggles with desktop pages and uses alot of data. Opera Mini is the other one and i personally think its amazing. You can load up full web pages quickly and easily and it allows you to zoom in and out of the pages so you can view them like you would on your desktop. It uses very low amounts of data so its cheap to use, plus its free to download.
I personally use opera on my handset as it works well with windows, its the best thing so far anyway.
If your thinking of something more along the lines of the safari (iphone) experience, there is nothing at this time that matches it exactly, but there are similar programs you can get hold of that have been around a little while like Picsel Browser. Which can load up full pages (but cost you alot of data), and renders the pages pretty well, plus you can scroll with your finger and zoom in and out of pages without a stylus. I used to use this browser but i'm now totally hooked on Opera Mini.
I'm sure there are some other browsers out there but these two i mentioned are the only 2 i consider worth mentioning.
PS. Deepfish is similar to Opera mini, its optimises pages server side to make them smaller (data wise anyway), but i think opera have stollen the game from microsoft, thus them stopping any more work on the project, from what we can see anyway!
Hope this all helps btw
Read by related articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
Personally I don't use opera mini, because it doesn't come for the htc p4350, i can run the generic, but I have to startup java first, then opera, and with every text area (including adress) it opens a new typing window..
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Personally I don't use opera mini, because it doesn't come for the htc p4350, i can run the generic, but I have to startup java first, then opera, and with every text area (including adress) it opens a new typing window..
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That's the same way it works on my wing. However, as I'm browsing from a phone, I really don't have the highest of expectations for my browsing experience, and all things considered, opera mini is the best option I've found thus far.
how do i get picsel..
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how do i get picsel..
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search google. I tried to find a search term that linked to a site with picsel, but i couldnt find a term that worked. And no posting links to warez, so your only hope is google.... or pm me, and ill tell you my number to call me, and ill help you out...
Rory
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There's a lot more than just opera and ie, Picsel's the way to go.
leaskovski said:
Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Cheers
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Look for Picsel browser, it works almost exactly as the iPhone safari, the zoom, the kinetic scrolling, all that stuff. Execpt it's made for only samsung phones so they don't make it availible for everybody. I have aa copy, but i don't think i can post it here. Type it in google, there a lot of them there. That's where i found mine. And by the way Picsel dosent just view web pages, it also views pictures, word, excel,pdf and powerpoint. Goodluck
leaskovski said:
Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Pocket Explorer
Opera
Deepfish - damn shame this was never continued!
Cheers
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Ever thought about the FTX browser or Webby?
well..guys i got the file..but havent test it yet..well..atleast not yet..lolz jus typed in Picsel Browser 1.0.5 download..nd got it ;D
I tried Piscel and it was very snazzy, however, it does have some site limitations so it looks like the pay version of opera is the way to go.
Just out of curiosity, I'm acustomed to PIE as that is what my Excalibur came with, but slowely I'm getting sick of it and was wondering which one is the best overall browser and why.
I've been experimenting with Deepfish and I love it, the speed is blazing fast but as it is an Alpha version it lacks support and features.
So I'm left with either Skyfire or Opera Mini. Which Way to go?
I´m sure you already checked out this excellent post.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1202096
They each have there good and bad points. Can you make a "All of the above" choice?
1) Yes I looked at the above link, BUT, there are thousonds of spec sheets, but what really matters is the actual user experience and how many people use what.
I haven't used Opera Mobile but I tried Opera mini and maybe because I was new at it and using an unfamiliar interface it didn't seem all that good at the time. Deepfish is awesome but no java. SkyFire has a lot of other drawbacks but am not completely familiar with either. I played with my friends iPhone today (again) and I really love the browser, the rest of the phone is just average und for business just not usable. The browser seems to know how much to zoom into; the connection seems a lot faster than on my dash even though my friends line only ran at 166 kbps, whereas I ran 133 kbps from the same location (from dslreports.com speedtest). I think there is no Java support on the iPhone browser either (might be wrong).
2) I don't want to make all of the above because once you get on the internet you go on with 1 browser. When you switch websites you don't just go and start a new browser you wanna have a one for all tool.
ive been using opera standard instead of mini. is deepfish even available? i have the beta .6 skyfire and its too slow. right now, my main browser is the newest 9.5 opera ripped from the diamond. it works great. no qualms with it here
need opera mobile in there
yea i prefer opera mobile 9.5 over the other picks
Skyfire!!!!!!!!!
Opera Mini is the fastest but Skyfire is a stable full browser so i will pick Skyfire. Opera 8 is good too but it wasn't stable on my treo 700wx. Deepfish just sucks.
Guy's,
What is your opinion about the new Internet Explorer Mobile 6?
Do we continue with the ordinary IE (IE5) or IE5 should have to be replaced by the IE6 in up-comming ROM's?
Cheers
ie6 is very slow. but it runs some scripts that ie5 doesnt.
i prefer opera mini
..........ummmmmm....unfortunately Opera isn't my choice.
My view point is, Opera simply renders the page nicely but in other way it's far worst than IE.
Page rendering is HORRIBLE on PIE6 imo. I personally have ditchend PIE for Skyfire anyhow, but just my opinion.
IMHO IE6 is better, more sites are showing correctly. More scripts are working. Zoom in/out is good. Its more slower on 64MB, but on my 128MB it is OK.
yes, I think IE60Mobile better....
for example it have "Search on page" function!
Just press Ctrl+F on keyboard
I will use it in my roms in future - I say "NO" to old PIE
Hi
I never got flashlite to run with IE 6, and it is very slow by normal standards. I do feel that ms could have done better, I have seen a beta IE 7 somewhere on xda but not sure if its a real release.
Be happy
Jay
I think IE6 would be much better with the time so I´ll say let´s keep with it
Anyway I normally use Opera Mobile 9.5 and it´s a lot better than IE
Cheers Tomal,
I just downloaded opera mini 5 from www.opera.com and I am fking shocked by the smoothness and user friendliness....for a moment I thought I was on safari/iphone.
Awesome job Opera Team!!!
Please keep us posted as to how it handle sites with flash, downloads, videos, etc.
I prefer skyfire because there is little it can't handle, I just don't care for the interface.
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Please keep us posted as to how it handle sites with flash, downloads, videos, etc.
I prefer skyfire because there is little it can't handle, I just don't care for the interface.
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that will be tough cause i generally use my mobile for quick access to info from sites by reading...and if need to watch videos, youtube app suffices.....
posted using opera mini
Here is a test....
go to www.championsparkplugs.com using the browser of your choice.
In my comparision testing, opera mini came out the winner because it renders the page perfectly in mobile mode and focusses on the search spark plug and the combobox drop down is rendered full page when you click on it making it easy to select the right entry.....
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Here is a test....
go to www.championsparkplugs.com using the browser of your choice.
In my comparision testing, opera mini came out the winner because it renders the page perfectly in mobile mode and focusses on the search spark plug and the combobox drop down is rendered full page when you click on it making it easy to select the right entry.....
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And this is what I mean...see attached screen shots.
What good is a browser when it is not finger friendly? If I wanted to see the full website like I do on a PC, I would do it on my PC.
The mobile phone is a tool that should help you when you need the information and you do not have access to a PC.
I use this example because I was at Home depot to buy a spark plug for my lawn power. I was not sure which plug to buy so I went to champion spark plug website using IE, and then Opera 9.7 and Opera Mini 5 WM Native beta.
You can see which one was way better engineered to help me get my information without pulling out the stylus and a magnifying glass.
Bruce Inman said:
Please keep us posted as to how it handle sites with flash, downloads, videos, etc.
I prefer skyfire because there is little it can't handle, I just don't care for the interface.
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Doesn't do flash, videos, etc... Great little app for lite viewing as it is fast, but you are better off with Skyfire if you are looking for a more robust internet experience...
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Doesn't do flash, videos, etc... Great little app for lite viewing as it is fast, but you are better off with Skyfire if you are looking for a more robust internet experience...
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I will have to disagree here.
Try www.aa.com or www.amtrak.com book a ticket or look up a flight/train schedule.
same for wikipedia. the text formatted to fit the screen and all I need to do is scroll up or down, not sideways.
Opera mini in mobile mode does a wonderful job.
Skyfire does not do such a great job to render it in mobile mode and is great for rendering a "pc-look-alike" screen, but I will need to zoom and/or need a stylus to get the same thing done.
As of now, I have both on my ATT Pure. Use them depending upon what I need to use it for.
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I will have to disagree here.
Try www.aa.com or www.amtrak.com book a ticket or look up a flight/train schedule.
same for wikipedia. the text formatted to fit the screen and all I need to do is scroll up or down, not sideways.
Opera mini in mobile mode does a wonderful job.
Skyfire does not do such a great job to render it in mobile mode and is great for rendering a "pc-look-alike" screen, but I will need to zoom and/or need a stylus to get the same thing done.
As of now, I have both on my ATT Pure. Use them depending upon what I need to use it for.
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I will have to disagree with your disagreeing as we are really not disagreeing...
Just responding to Inman's post and maybe it's a little my fault as I did not properly explain myself. Websites that use flash and videos can not be accessed by Opera Mini properly as you will lose that content. That is why I would recommend Skyfire over Opera Mini in those instances. However, I do use Opera Mini as my main browser and switch to Skyfire when I need that "PC-look-alike" experience...
Dude, we agree, not to disagree with you...
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I will have to disagree with your disagreeing as we are really not disagreeing...
Just responding to Inman's post and maybe it's a little my fault as I did not properly explain myself. Websites that use flash and videos can not be accessed by Opera Mini properly as you will lose that content. That is why I would recommend Skyfire over Opera Mini in those instances. However, I do use Opera Mini as my main browser and switch to Skyfire when I need that "PC-look-alike" experience...
Dude, we agree, not to disagree with you...
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Well, it's good for a laugh anyways!
Thanks Guys!
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I will have to disagree with your disagreeing as we are really not disagreeing...
Just responding to Inman's post and maybe it's a little my fault as I did not properly explain myself. Websites that use flash and videos can not be accessed by Opera Mini properly as you will lose that content. That is why I would recommend Skyfire over Opera Mini in those instances. However, I do use Opera Mini as my main browser and switch to Skyfire when I need that "PC-look-alike" experience...
Dude, we agree, not to disagree with you...
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I thought so.....glad to know that we are all for the best app that fits the job!
opera mini 5.1 is the bomb
I have tried the new release of opera mini 5.1. The web browser is the fastest mobile browser I have ever used on my HTC pure. It makes all the other browsers like IE, opera mobile 10, skyfire, bolt, android, and iphone's safari look like a joke. Only one downside, it cannot run flash. It download videos and connects to streaming media easily though.
Thank you for introducing this perfect explorer. It's really very fast, I made it my default explorer.