i have a simple questio why all ROM cooker`s make only wm6 and wm6.1 professional instead of improving the standard one wich was made for smartphones non touchscreen?The wm6 and wm6.1 pro are to hard to use because HTC Tornado doesn`t have touch screen..why all of you try to improve the pro version instead of the standard one?
Because 6.1 Professional has a lot more options and is a lot more powerful in general. I encourage you to get hold of a Wizard or Hermes or TyTN or one of HTC's touchscreen PDA phones with 6.1 Pro on it (I have a friend who owns a Wizard that I play with once in a while) and try it out.
If they can get 6.1Pro to work on a Smartphone, I can see how a lot of people would want it.
Of course, on a personal level, I've tried one of the 6.1Pro ROMs currently available for the Tornado and, honestly, I don't like it. It's got a lot of stuff that I want, but the interface just doesn't seem to work for me. I can't find my way around, can't figure out the button layout. If there was a 6.1 Standard that had all the options and capabilities of 6.1Pro, or if there was a 6.1Pro with a 6.1Standard interface, I'd be ALL FOR IT.
In any case, there's at least one person working on a 6.1 Standard for us Tornado users - GnatGoSplat has an *excellent* 6.1 Standard ROM that's been available for quite some time and, we're hoping, will be updated in the near future. GnatGoSplat rules.
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i have a simple questio why all ROM cooker`s make only wm6 and wm6.1 professional instead of improving the standard one wich was made for smartphones non touchscreen?The wm6 and wm6.1 pro are to hard to use because HTC Tornado doesn`t have touch screen..why all of you try to improve the pro version instead of the standard one?
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I'm with you on this mate... Pro is for touch screen devices. Why the heck would anyone want that on a non-touch screen device? I have an HTC Touch running GnatGoSplats WM6.1 Pro - brilliant... I also have a Tornado running Gregory's WM6 Neo - also brillianr, but I wouldn't want anOS designed for a completely different kind of device on my Tornado no matter how good Pro is! Leave Pro with the touch screen devices, THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR!!!
Profy_X said:
i have a simple questio why all ROM cooker`s make only wm6 and wm6.1 professional instead of improving the standard one wich was made for smartphones non touchscreen?The wm6 and wm6.1 pro are to hard to use because HTC Tornado doesn`t have touch screen..why all of you try to improve the pro version instead of the standard one?
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I'm with you on this mate... Pro is for touch screen devices. Why the heck would anyone want that on a non-touch screen device? I have an HTC Touch running GnatGoSplats WM6.1 Pro - brilliant... I also have a Tornado running Gregory's WM6 Neo - also brilliant, but I wouldn't want an OS designed for a completely different kind of device on my Tornado no matter how good Pro is! Leave Pro with the touch screen devices, THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR!!!
Why am I posting things twice? I must have got carried away with my ranting.... sorry!
pro versoon for smartphone rocks
yes but pro isn`t for non touchscreen devices...in my opinion for HTC Tornado make wm6.1 or wm6 better and do not try to make the pro version better...
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I have the IPAQ 4350 [Not the Phone version]. It is just the regular PocketPC with 2003 OS I believe. I would like to know if this can be upgraded or purchase a newer ROM that handles the limited 64MB RAM memory better. Is version WM 6 or 6.1 even possible. maybe not? If so how do I do this. This is a great forum.
You can find lots of ROMs here yes, but most of them are for the phones, since they are used mostly by people who want to tweak 'em. I'm also still looking for a nice ROM for my Ipaq 4350, but in the meantime I'll just enjoy my Touch Diamond's new ROM If you find a nice ROM please pm me
Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
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Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
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Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
Menneisyys said:
Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
Forgot to mention that providing VGA resolution in qVGA size is Eten and no HTC has it!
Regards,
Carty..
Does Eten provide drivers optimized for hardware video acceleration? Seeing the limitations of recent HTC phones, and having in mind a VGA resolution requires 4x the processing power of QVGA, I would say that's a must.
And, do they offer ROM updates too? HTC gave free updates from WM 5 to WM 6 for many of their phones.
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They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Yeah well if HTC keeps treating its customers like crap maybe there will be support for Eten in here(crappy phones, crappy customer support, bad or wroong drivers)
M810
MercuryTyTN said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
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if you really need a keyboard you might wanna wait for the Eten M810, the sucessor to the M800, it looks really good with good specs, from personnal experience, the devices are good quality and the roms have plenty of OEM customazation from Eten.
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PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi, I had from many years a HTC Himalaya and I loved it... but now I have bought an ETEN Glofiish M800... about the Customizable ROM here u can find a recently customized Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM for the Glofiish: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=13538
Regards,
Cristian (aka tesKing)
i dont know for these new devices but for the x500/m700 ive read in many forums that eten devices with vga screens were "slow"
but ive tested none by myself
I have a TYTNII and bought the Eten M800 due to the VGA screen. The speed is more or less the same as for the HTC, i.e. slow but still useable. However you get VGA resolution in a very good quality screen. Apart form that, the M800 is almost inusable, it has touch sensitive buttons that make the everyday use a real PAIN. The WM6 is very unstable in this device probably due to the amount of (useless) applicattions that ETEN has preloaded. I found a workaround to the problem of the buttons:
1) Disable the touch buttons using the registry (leave "OK" and the Windows logo only)
2) Change the voice comnmander by the Cyberon Voice Speed dial
Then there is the problem of the paint....mine looks like 5 years old and has les than one month. Unfortunately I sold the TYTNII... too early.
I use the M800 and I am quite satisfied so far.
Sold my Touch Dual and apart from the weird touch buttons and the small RAM its a very nice device.
There are cooked roms available and you don't need to unlock anything. just put the ROM files on a FAT16 SD card, boot, hold a few buttons and 8 mins later its done.
GPSSlovakias WM 6.1 ROM for the M800 is stable and fast, much faster than the stock ROM.
i also disabled the buttons on the front. unfortunately they are not really usable.
the M810 is nice for sure, but only QVGA!
once you get used to a VGA screen you really cant go back anymore. the difference is huge. especially with apps that take full use of it, like the excellent Netfront 3.5 browser and PocketXpdf.
also it just looks that much cleaner. on TodayAgenda I can show much more info, the SPB Plus and Phone icons looks superb, etc...
IMHO its a great device but has a few shortcommings.
what i would love in the next eten:
128MB ram
flush screen
real front buttons
better keyboard
i would not say that the M800 is unusable. not for me, at least.
it was a great upgrade to my touch dual and as the dual has basically no hardware buttons, it doesnt make much difference that the M800 ones are unusable
btw, I used AE Button Plus for disabling the buttons as its more comfortable that way
the speed of the device is very good with the newest WM 6.1 ROM, really. and there is a new touch screen driver that resolves the 80% CPU bug when pressing the screen.
ROMs for ETEN M800
I agree that once you disable the buttons the device is just OK, specially the screen pays for the rest of the troubles (shared in part by HTC devices). However, I miss the nice send and end buttons of the TYTNII. Where do you get the cooked ROMs? Do you know if there is any available in spanish? I had to buy the WME version because apparently they don't market the device in Spain or any spanish speaking country or I haven't located any dealer selling a spanish version... Maybe it still does not exsist.
I've been able to enter in bootlader mode by pressing power+record+hw reset, then a terminal screen prompts for a USB loader and then for a SD card image file, however I haven't found any rom so far.
here:
WM 6.1 thread
but if you can wait, a new rom version will be upped, according to the thread starter.
I have the WWE version too, as they dont make them in German
no idea if there is a spanish rom.
of course good buttons would be nice, but i disabled the lower row and use the win, ok, left, right buttons and it works well that way.
btw if you click the record button twice, the touchbuttons get locked. if you click twice again, they get unlocked. maybe this is helpful for you
I see a lot of people complaining about the touch buttons but I am having a good experience with them. I found M800 really nice and usable.
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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What program do you use to record calls?
Thank you
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi,
Could you tell, please, what program do you use to record on both ways with an E-ten?
Thank you
hi there....
should i buy this fone for 250€ ?
i got an HTC Wizard for 3 years.
The m800 is the worst phone I ever had..
Bad paint, flimsy battery cover, 64MB RAM (too low for the VGA screen).
Even my ancient universal is faster (also with 64 MB) then the m800..
Glad to have a diamond now.
My advice: it's not worth the money.
For 250 you can probably buy yourself a second hand Diamond..
This website says HTC Touch Diamond will be the best phone of 2008: http://www.mytouch-diamond-phone.com
Anyone feel the same way? I know the new iPhone has 3G but the Diamond also touts 3G speed...
The iPhone is not a WinMo phone.
Why even bring it up if you're asking what the best WinMo phone is?
My candidates for the best WinMo phone of 2008 are:
Super number 1.- Htc Advantage x7510!!
1.- Touch Pro Raphael
2.- Samsung Omnia
3.- Toshiba protegé g910
4.- Diamond
Iphone is not WinMo and can not compare with any of the ones above
Iphone sucks in several aspects.... so let´s not talk about it!
Cheers
thanx for spamming us with your site.
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thanx for spamming us with your site.
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Yeah, all 5 of his posts are basically cut-and-paste.
Currently I would say the HTC Touch Diamond.
Either the HTC Touch Pro or the SE Expreria might surpass it when they become available.
orb3000 said:
My candidates for the best WinMo phone of 2008 are:
Super number 1.- Htc Advantage x7510!!
1.- Touch Pro Raphael
2.- Samsung Omnia
3.- Toshiba protegé g910
4.- Diamond
Cheers
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Hahaha you're joking, right? I presume yo;ve never actually used any of the above, especially the G910...
My vote would be the i780, possibly followed by the i900 if you don't want a keyboard (too early for real user reviews yet). Forget the eye-candy and go for something that works better than any other PPC out there - at a bargain price. Not just my opinion:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411053
hello from italy
i had samsung 780,and now i have diamond and omnia, i beleve omnia is the best or will be the best, it have a good battery, superb cam, big display (alas with bad resolution), good touchscreen, write on it is easy without stylus, problem with navigators, tomtom7 needs of gps gate, garmin is free (why always this problem?), the fix is good,
some little problem with installations of some programs and games, with diamond no problems, for me however omnia is the best for NOW
hi guys,
i'm a bit confused, what is currently the best 6.1 rom for the tornado?
thanks!
Good question !
Just check each version and pick the one with the features you need.
Yeah! good question and best answer is check all the roms available here one by one all yourself.
My experience is 6.1 pro by Kamikadze is the best with all taste of PPC but you need some tweaking/mapping hard keys to functions of your prefer.
OK don't trust anybody .. you are the best judge.
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hi guys,
i'm a bit confused, what is currently the best 6.1 rom for the tornado?
thanks!
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For me it WM6.1 Plane Jane Final as long as you install it properly
IMHO at this time WM6.1 Clean 5.2.19202 (Build 19202.1.0.0) Eval is best 6.1 rom.
Why?
-plain and clean, no custom graphics, themes etc.
-no custom apps - everybody have own favourite apps...
-FAST !!
Of course if You don't mind lack of xt9 (beside EN or RU) and a bit troubling controls the best is WM6.1 PRO RC5!!!made by Kamikadze
-PRO!!!
-Tornados fastest rom
Yep, the best ROM should be at least Clean and Fast....
Maybe this is not the place to post this question, but somehow related: which version is the most widely installed in the devices?
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Maybe this is not the place to post this question, but somehow related: which version is the most widely installed in the devices?
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There really is no way of telling that 'cos you don't know what people have installed. And to be honest, as others have said in this thread, it's all down to personal taste. You have to try them all and see which one suits your needs / or appeals to you. My personal opinion is that WM6 is more stable on the Tornado than WM6.1, although I do like the additional features you get with 6.1... it doesn't cost you anything to try the ROM's, apart from a little time.
One giveaway to the most used, is the ROM's with the most posts
Yeah, you're right. And regardign the WM6.1 Standard Vs. the WM6.1 PRO... how is the balance? The PRO is a bit of a gamble in a Tornado, ins't it? I'd say most people will go the safe way and choose Standard?
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hi guys,
i'm a bit confused, what is currently the best 6.1 rom for the tornado?
thanks!
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I got my SDA about 10 days ago and wanted to upgrade from WM5 to WM6.
Installed:
1. WM6 English ROM Platinum Edition (Service Pack 1) OS 5.2.1711.18165.0.5.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365023
It's NOT WM6.1 , too many programs I don't need. Seems to have to many buggy menus. Didn't like it.
2. [Release 11Jun08] WM6.1 (not so) Plain Jane - 5.2.19202 (Build 19202.1.0.0) FINAL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406716
This one is 6.1, quite nice, has cool progs. It felt slow and unresponsive and I didn't like home menu and didn't want to bother editing it
3. [Mar 27, 2008] WM6.1 Clean 5.2.19202 (Build 19202.1.0.0) Eval
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375670
The one I use now. Neat and fast. No bugs!
Hay guys,
I am getting a new PDA, I have tytn now and it has served me good.
Could you give me your look on this two models, I am thinking about Samsung, since it has much better specs and display, but I got used to touchflo 3D interface a lot...
Is it possible to put it on Omnia?
Your answer will be appreciated and will help me decide what to buy.
Thanks!
There is one added value for choosing HD
The sup`port of this fantastic site!!
Just because of that I´ll choose HD even if omnia has better specs...
Yes, that is bothering me too...
Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
You could use TouchFlo 3D on your Omnia 2 if its WVGA. However as mentioned above the support provided by this site significantly exceeds that of any site that supports the Omnia. To be completely honest, if you havent bought your device yet you should consider the Touch Diamond II. The reasoning behind this is i read an article somewhere mentioning that devices without a windows button will not get an official WM6.5 ROM or something stupid like that (Correct me if im wrong).
Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
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Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
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A forum specialized like this for that device!!!
Hmm, the Touch HD vs Omnia II i8000.
Well, lets face it, this is a question of 'XDA support' or 'No XDA support'. Specs-wise, the i8000 has the Touch HD crushed completely (as have been the case with all new Samsung models; HTC hasn't updated their specs in forever).
Personally, if you ask me for a choice between those two models, I would go with the i8000. The main reason I love XDA support is that it makes the interface looks better and it makes the software faster, but from what I see, the i8000 is already plenty fast and it looks very, very good. Furthermore, the i8000 has support forums too (though not on the level of XDA), so any deficiency may be corrected by its own forums anyway.
The idea of choosing a WM device based on software seems very silly to me. One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D), so transition between WM devices based on software is very simple. If anything, the i8000 should be more appealing software-wise as Samsung put a lot of amazing software on it that has not been ported to other devices yet.
Always buy for the better specs and design. Never buy for the software support. Buy for the software that is already provided.
Any extras can be found on other fan sites and other non-htc developers. Therefore the Omnia 2 is a much better choice.
Besides there are plenty of software that are created that supports non-htc devices, and there are also software that are created specifically for non-htc devices.
Furthermore alot of the technical problems are Windows Mobile based and not always HTC based.
The only 2 reasons to get HTC devices is 1) if you prefer the design and the specs of HTC and 2) if you want to flash your ROM.
HTC devices are easily flashed to a different ROM, but hey man not everyone uses ROMs... I don't ever use ROM's...
Therefore Omnia 2 is a perfect choice if you don't flash your ROM...and point number 1 shows that HTC Touch HD is outdated....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
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Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
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undoubtedly, omnia II
gauravdc said:
what more could anyone possibly want?
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a zooming ability on the video camera (while filming)
also, can it play divx/xvid movies like the HD can with coreplayer?
i download movies and dont have to re-encode them, just drag, drop, play. (...generally, unless there was some esoteric encoding used)
mark
I have the same dilemma. I am about to replace my Sony Ericsson W960i with a proper PDA and I am taking into account both, Touch HD and Omnia II.
Similarly I would like to have a Touch Flo 3d interface on my device and therefore I was keener on HTC Touch HD at first. However since it is possible to get a Touch Flo 3d onto all WinMo devices (as I deduced from 8525Smart's post)
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One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D)
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I rather buy Omnia.
And here it comes to questions:
1. Are my assumptions concerning getting Touch Flo 3d onto Omnia correct?
2. Could anyone explain to me this ->
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....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
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What does it mean to"flash your ROM" and how is it useful? Isn't it simply upgrading/updating the ROM?
I'd be grateful if you could help
well livegod guess what ! omnia2 has zooming while taking videos with its awesom camera
and the touch player can support almost 99% of all my downloaded and converted movies
as for the TF3D .. i love the new one and i cant seem to find it anywhere to be installed on my omnia2
i hate the widgets... makes the phone looks like a toy so i am using spbmobile shell + pointui
i'am from germany and I have the same problem.....
But here I can buy the Omnia in a few month....:-(
But what is whith the HTC LEO????????
Touchwiz 2.0 quite simply covers up WM 6.1 SO thoroughly on the Omnia II, it's almost like you're not using a Windows phone. The Omnia II is definitely the better pick unless you REALLY want ROMs to flash. Then wait for the Whitestone or Firestone or whatever HTC have next.
omnia camera is far better than the HD2
especially the video recording
the HD2 dont have a chance
but i dont care about the video recording so i will get the HD2
HD2, wins every time. You can flash what ever you want (when hspl comes out!), why would you ever want an omnia?
Hands down the HD2 (Leo). PPC of the year so far!
Samsung Omnia 2 place...
I'm a Forum XDA user for a long time.
It helped me a lot with my old HTC Wizard.
I was quite worried about buying an Omnia2 and losing the Forum support. But HTC HD cannot win O2 in SPECS.
About support... boys I have to admit.
For Omnia2 (that is not a HTC device) the best software and tweaks and amazing ROMs can be found on MODACO (sorry boys, but I have to say).
If you own an HTC device don't even consider getting there. The best place is here!!!
Concerning the TouchFlo3D, there are many versions available on MODACO. There's even a HTC HD2 like ROM with Sense 2.5
Thanks!